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Ifafudafi
January 16th, 2009, 02:50 PM
So the Chinese government is taking away anonymity in gaming (http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90781/90877/6575252.html).

Of course, it's all for the kids. (http://www.incgamers.com/News/14744/Update-Chinese-Real-Name-Registration-Explained)

Thoughts?

p0lar_bear
January 16th, 2009, 02:56 PM
So the Chinese government is taking away anonymity in gaming (http://english.people.com.cn/90001/90781/90877/6575252.html).

Of course, it's all for the kids. (http://www.incgamers.com/News/14744/Update-Chinese-Real-Name-Registration-Explained)

Thoughts?

Welp, since the Chinese parents are unable to control their kids' addictions to the vidya, something has to be done. It seems wrong, but with a number of the things I've heard about these gamers, it's a fitting response to the cry for help.

Donut
January 16th, 2009, 03:32 PM
Four online game companies' operations have been suspended after it was found that their software did not have the mandatory anti-addiction system, he said in Qingdao on Wednesday.
:smithicide:

cheezdue
January 16th, 2009, 03:36 PM
I don't see on how this will stop kids for playing more than 3 hours...

Donut
January 16th, 2009, 03:38 PM
However, the system is not without flaws, as Kuangtu explained.
"Kids still can play one game for three hours then switch to another. To be honest, the system sucks. It can't completely prohibit kids' addiction to games, but at least it's a good start."
yeah i dont either, but hey, thats communism for you
... upon further thought, how bad exactly is this "addiction?" and what game are they addicted to?

AAA
January 16th, 2009, 03:46 PM
This isn't happening for America, right? Because, it doesn't sound like it... dunno why people see this as a big problem.

sdavis117
January 16th, 2009, 03:57 PM
It's China. The fact that this hasn't happened there is surprising. Everything is illegal/monitored these days in China (except the things that can actually hurt people).

NullZero
January 16th, 2009, 05:24 PM
Goddamn communism. I swear the government gets more paranoid by the minute, and feel the need to watch every one of their slaves citizens (if you can call them that :|)

Phopojijo
January 16th, 2009, 05:41 PM
This honestly surprises you?

The Great Firewall of China is long known.

BTW... China isn't exactly a shining example of Socialism... so don't let it discourage you :p

Sel
January 16th, 2009, 05:49 PM
It'll fail just like the last 300 things they tried.

Like that, hurr you play counterstike well ur goin to bootcamp lolz!

Kornman00
January 16th, 2009, 05:53 PM
Ummmm...wont the chinese pop just figure out ways around shit like this? I mean, where do all our cracks come from...

Bodzilla
January 16th, 2009, 05:59 PM
AWESOME.

God bless China, a shining beacon of light for everyone to see.

LinkandKvel
January 16th, 2009, 06:01 PM
Thread title is EPIC!!!

Needles
January 16th, 2009, 06:28 PM
I don't play more than 3 hours a day except for on weekends, then I play 4-5 hours.

But if it only restricts one game, what's the god damn point? It just seems like a big failing annoyance.

CN3089
January 16th, 2009, 06:43 PM
Oh no, our freedom to play games for more than three hours per day!! OUR MOST PRECIOUS FREEDOM

ICEE
January 16th, 2009, 06:51 PM
Oh no, our freedom to play games for more than three hours per day!! OUR MOST PRECIOUS FREEDOM

That isn't the point.. The point is that when a government takes away oblique little rights like this, it just means your more assimilated into the system, and your more likely to willingly give up other little rights. You lose one, then another... until your completely owned.

CN3089
January 16th, 2009, 06:55 PM
That isn't the point.. The point is that when a government takes away oblique little rights like this, it just means your more assimilated into the system, and your more likely to willingly give up other little rights. You lose one, then another... until your completely owned.
again


OH NO OUR FREEDOM (to play games for more than three hours per day) OH NO


WHAT WILL THEY TAKE AWAY NEXT, OUR FREEDOM TO USE CRACK COCAINE???

Con
January 16th, 2009, 07:12 PM
Before you know it, the government will be changing their kids' diapers for them.

DarkHalo003
January 16th, 2009, 07:13 PM
The govies overreacting again. It's the Kiddies that have the bad mouths anyways.

p0lar_bear
January 16th, 2009, 07:17 PM
The govies overreacting again. It's the Kiddies that have the bad mouths anyways.

Overreacting?

Did you read the article?

Have you heard any of those tales of oriental kids starving themselves to death because they play StarCraft nonstop?

DarkHalo003
January 16th, 2009, 07:18 PM
Overreacting?

Did you read the article?

Have you heard any of those tales of oriental kids starving themselves to death because they play StarCraft nonstop?
Nah, I was just stating something that I thought could have been an exaggeration.

I'm lazy to read the article. Thanks for telling me what it's about.

n00b1n8R
January 16th, 2009, 08:06 PM
If I had to live in China, I'd sure as hell use any escape I had available. Perhaps if the country sucked less balls, vidya addiction would be less of a problem.

PlasbianX
January 16th, 2009, 08:08 PM
The system they have is funny. In Lineage 2, if youre playing in china after a set period of time you get a system message saying youve played too long. After you play even more, they reduce your stats to 1 so you cant do shit unless you take an extended break. Its kinda funny. Although, it only works on a PER CHARACTER basis so all ya do is just relog on one of you alts and its fine haha.

Bodzilla
January 16th, 2009, 09:15 PM
Wheres Buckshot.

Reaper Man
January 16th, 2009, 09:23 PM
Oh thank god for the "one country, two systems" policy Hong Kong has. Lo probrem fo' me.

Donut
January 16th, 2009, 10:40 PM
If I had to live in China, I'd sure as hell use any escape I had available. Perhaps if the country sucked less balls, vidya addiction would be less of a problem.
seriously. i freak out when i travel to new york city. way too many people. if i had to live in a place roughly 10 times as dense as NYC you can bet i wouldnt leave my house and escape to the E-world all day..... kind of like i do normally.
but either way i wouldnt starve myself to play a game. my stomach starts to hurt long before the point of starvation lol

LinkandKvel
January 17th, 2009, 12:05 AM
Overreacting?

Did you read the article?

Have you heard any of those tales of oriental kids starving themselves to death because they play StarCraft nonstop?WHAT?! HAVE THEY NOT HEARD OF EATING WHILE PLAYING? One of the greatest organization systems ever.

n00b1n8R
January 17th, 2009, 01:22 AM
Hey, I wonder what's going on at moda-

WHAT?! HAVE THEY NOT HEARD OF EATING WHILE PLAYING? One of the greatest organization systems ever.
MULTITASKING?

GB2 THE KITCHEN

Mr Buckshot
January 17th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Oh thank god for the "one country, two systems" policy Hong Kong has. Lo probrem fo' me.

Lucky guy, living in the SAR eh?

I see no problem with this. People these days are so socialist, they think everything is a god-given right. As for what's monitored, I personally have surfed for hours on my laptop in Guangzhou, and nothing that I usually visit is filtered by the traffic. I view a "violation of human right" as something that actually causes harm to a person's well-being.

I'm a Chinese-Singaporean (3rd generation) btw, but personally I feel significantly more allegiance to the mainland than to Singapore, for one reason:

The mainland government supplied me with a Chinese passport even though I wasn't really a citizen, instrumental in allowing me to escape the number one human-right violator of all time: MILITARY CONSCRIPTION (from Singapore).

Now, about this online gaming thing. This restriction applies to games that are marketed in the mainland itself. I don't see WoW players (not that WoW is popular there anyway) complaining about this anytime soon.

If you want to hurl insults at a predominantly Chinese area, set your sights on Taiwan and Singapore, whose governments are made up of Chinese people. They're doing things 1000x worse than this so-called "online gaming right infringement" everyone is bitching about. I've heard that Westerners seem to like Singapore, but they obviously haven't heard about the mass censorship and other shit going on there.

I speak from experience, btw, a Chinese man in Singapore has about half as many rights or less than he would have in the mainland. Yet Westerners are constantly praising Singapore's image instead of flaming it.

In other words, who cares, seriously.


Goddamn communism. I swear the government gets more paranoid by the minute, and feel the need to watch every one of their slaves citizens (if you can call them that :|)

Communist? really? OMG Mao is resurrected, I'm going back there to take up arms!

And yes, people can figure out ways around this, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WON'T CARE. If you haven't noticed, they have laws about seditious libel, yet people are blogging seditious libel in the mainland all the time and evidently the police has bigger problems to worry about because they hardly even investigate. Tiananmen Square - that happened when the old government, which I don't support, was in power. In this century there have been countless demonstrations similar to the one in Tiananmen Square, and not one of them has become bloody, because the government can actually learn from the mistakes made by its previous government.

PopeAK49
January 17th, 2009, 02:54 AM
Overreacting?

Did you read the article?

Have you heard any of those tales of oriental kids starving themselves to death because they play StarCraft nonstop?

Those kids were starving themselves over StarCraft I thought it was because they had anorexia nervosa (Very skinny bodies gross me out and freak me out btw.)

LinkandKvel
January 17th, 2009, 02:54 AM
:words:I find you ALWAYS have walls of text which I never care to read for.....you should provide warning labels.

Bodzilla
January 17th, 2009, 04:33 AM
you say people are spoiled Buckshot and that they think everything is Their god given right.

well i have a question for you.
What in the name of god gives them the right to take it away.

Bodzilla
January 17th, 2009, 04:39 AM
Tiananmen Square - that happened when the old government, which I don't support, was in power. In this century there have been countless demonstrations similar to the one in Tiananmen Square, and not one of them has become bloody, because the government can actually learn from the mistakes made by its previous government.
dont even talk about Tiananmen square.

To power phrase what you just said translates roughly into this. "they fucked up and millions of chinese people that fought for a better quality of life died when they where massacred by their own Army and government, but no biggy.
that shits old hat, lets just hope they get it right the second time around, and we'll forget and dismiss the ideals the people died to protect."

the Mistakes are still their buckshot cant you fucking see that. nothings changed.
nothing at all.

NullZero
January 17th, 2009, 05:58 PM
Communist? really? OMG Mao is resurrected, I'm going back there to take up arms!


What. Mainland China is still a communist state, however, their economic practices are about as capitalistic as they come.

Mr Buckshot
January 18th, 2009, 02:36 AM
What. Mainland China is still a communist state, however, their economic practices are about as capitalistic as they come.

Depends on how you define communism. It's a far cry from Stalin's era, and the people do have a say in what the government does, although never to the same extent as the West. The Communist party holds the largest number of seats in the government but it's really powerless compared to Mao's era or Stalin's era. Hu Jintao has less control over his people's lives than jcap does over this forum's members.

I highly doubt the government will dare to revert back to the old days, though. With all the self-made billionaires in Chinese cities these days, there's plenty of room and money for private armies for use against any aggressive movements by the CPC. The government WANTS people to operate in a capitalist style because they know total communism is not in their best interests.

Democracy is only good if it isn't abused and manipulated. If you look at Taiwan, which dares to call itself Republic of China, it is definitely many times more democratic on the outside, but the politicians there all embezzle money, stealing from the poor and giving to the rich. Plus, there's conscription which IMO is really contradicting the principles of democracy. Taiwan's case proves that an abrupt transition to a democracy doesn't always mean the people benefit. It bewilders me why America would offer military support to a place like Taiwan. Taiwan may not have these "omg took away my MMO gaming" thing, but it is the true "evil China." Singapore, also predominantly Chinese, could also rank as an evil China of sorts.

Of course people EVERYWHERE have fought and died for better ways of life, with their descendants hoping their new leaders would bring positive change. It's just happened more recently in the PRC than in other places, hence people like to point at it.

I don't see it as "hey let's sit back and hope the new leaders get it right." People there still remember what their ancestors fought for. And the leaders have a lot less control these days, they may resent what people died for in the past but they have no choice but to relent.

This thread needs a lock. There shouldn't be any threads that directly flame anyone's country anyway. I may snicker at American politics from time to time but I don't hate America at all. Whether it's about America or Israel or China or Ethiopia or Azerbaijan or Loompaland or whatever, just keep your anti-country-X opinion to PMs and such. How would you like it if someone made a thread saying how Australia is a craphole? (I don't think so btw, Australia is pretty cool)

Bodzilla
January 18th, 2009, 03:22 AM
This thread needs a lock. There shouldn't be any threads that directly flame anyone's country anyway. I may snicker at American politics from time to time but I don't hate America at all. Whether it's about America or Israel or China or Ethiopia or Azerbaijan or Loompaland or whatever, just keep your anti-country-X opinion to PMs and such. How would you like it if someone made a thread saying how Australia is a craphole? (I don't think so btw, Australia is pretty cool)
i honestly wouldnt care as long as they made the distinction that the australian people =/= Australia.

Limited
January 18th, 2009, 01:15 PM
Online games are becoming more and more of a problem when people take extreme levels. People are dying because of their addition, this is obviously a very big issue. Its also not an easy fix. Do I think its right they have to put their name and be monitored and restricted about the number of hours? No, however I do feel something needs to be done. Not this way but another way.

If your lass name is Li, Lee, wang, chang , you have no problem lol.

I'm lazy to read the article. Thanks for telling me what it's about.
Last I hear it was a infraction-able offence to reply to a thread when you didnt read the article because you were too lazy to.