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DaaxGhost
January 24th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Yea, so recently my Radeon X1950 Pro overheated...

Here's some specs:

GF Card: Radeon X1950 Pro
Ram: 512
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System Speed: P4 2.8 GHz
Fans: Fail


I need to get some more.. :rolleyes:

DrunkenSamus
January 24th, 2009, 05:06 PM
You know mostly everybody is either going to say 4850 or 4870. :|

Hotrod
January 24th, 2009, 05:19 PM
You know mostly everybody is either going to say 4850 or 4870. :|
Yeah:D

Get the HD4850, much better bang for the buck, much more powerful, and you'll be much happier with it.

Sel
January 24th, 2009, 05:28 PM
You know mostly everybody is either going to say 4850 or 4870. :|

Yeah this.

I got the 3870 a while ago, and it's a pretty good card, but the 4850 and 4870 will easily outrun it.

Evil_Monkey
January 24th, 2009, 06:10 PM
Won't that processor bottleneck the card?

legionaire45
January 24th, 2009, 06:21 PM
Probably, but the HD4850 is still a better buy.

Xetsuei
January 24th, 2009, 06:30 PM
$134.99 (with MiR)
MSI Radeon HD4850 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127370)

DrunkenSamus
January 24th, 2009, 07:49 PM
I thought so...

Mr Buckshot
January 24th, 2009, 08:20 PM
Radeon HD 4850 is good, but that 2.8 Ghz processor is quite outdated and is a major bottleneck. I know you can't do it right now, but at the first opportunity you should upgrade that CPU, if it uses an LGA 775 slot you shouldn't have a problem installing a Core 2 Duo.

Higuy
January 24th, 2009, 09:28 PM
I got the Ati hd4850 a couple months ago, and I can already run crysis at the ultra high config around 40-50 fps. If only my processor was better, I'd probally be getting 60 fps. I dunno. Its a good card. Get it.

Syuusuke
January 24th, 2009, 10:33 PM
I don't think your processor is bottlenecking it...

Anyway, yes, the 4800 series is the way to go then the previous 3800, you can tell by all the people telling to go for it!

Higuy
January 24th, 2009, 10:56 PM
Oh, well, idk. Not very technical with most computers.. :saddowns:

Anyways, yes get the 4850, its totally worth it, and should last you a decent amount of time.

343guiltymc
January 24th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Isn't there a sticky for this?

Mr Buckshot
January 24th, 2009, 11:48 PM
I don't think your processor is bottlenecking it...

Depends on how hardcore he is about actual performance, if low-30s fps on high is adequate in his eyes than yes a 2.8Ghz P4 is fine. It's just that it's generations old and pretty much every new prebuilt brand-name computer(not that I would buy one), both laptop and desktop, has something more powerful than that (unless you go into ultraportable notebooks and Netbooks).

Like I said, get the 4850. If you find a sweet deal, last year's Geforce 8800 GT is plenty powerful too. But once you've saved up again after the GFX purchase, I'd recommend getting a better CPU, you wouldn't regret it. The fact that most C2Ds use the same LGA775 slot as old Pentium 4s/Ds makes the upgrade quite convenient too, as opposed to upgrading from one of those old DDR1-only AMD Athlon 64s to a Phenom.

Rook
January 25th, 2009, 12:42 AM
I don't know how the processor is in your fps, but with my 1.8ghz and ATi Radeon x1600, I can get 50-80 FPS in CoD4 with everything on low. The FPS will drop some with many frag nades and smoke nades.

Mr Buckshot
January 25th, 2009, 12:49 AM
If your 1.8 Ghz is one of the next-gen processors, be aware that Ghz numbers have a different definition today. My friend's laptop has a 1.6 Ghz processor which gives him great gaming performance. But it is an AMD Turion - if it were a Pentium 4 or a Celeron it would be totally unsuited for games. Nowadays, processors are more efficient, hence there's no need for high Ghz numbers.

A 1.86 Ghz Intel C2D E6320 (one of the earlier C2D models) will easily outperform a 3.8 Ghz Pentium D, even though the Ghz number is more than 2x that of the E6320.

Daax described his processor as being a Pentium Four, hence 2.8 Ghz is low by today's standards. But if it were a Core 2 Duo, 2.8 Ghz would be more than enough for many games.

paladin
January 25th, 2009, 01:26 AM
Its alright, but like everyone said, the 4850 is a better buy. But you could go extreme like me and get two of these babies (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131116&Tpk=radeon%20HD%204870)

InnerGoat
January 25th, 2009, 01:41 AM
Yea, so recently my Radeon X1950 Pro overheated...

Here's some specs:

GF Card: Radeon X1950 Pro
Ram: 512
-----------------
System Speed: P4 2.8 GHz
Fans: Fail


I need to get some more.. :rolleyes:Upgrade the CPU as well. That nasty bottleneck would make the HD4850 sit idle most of the time. :horny:

(your x1950pro was help back a lot already... poor card has gone to a better place :( )

Rook
January 25th, 2009, 11:26 AM
If your 1.8 Ghz is one of the next-gen processors, be aware that Ghz numbers have a different definition today.
AMD Sempron from 2004. :x

Mr Buckshot
January 25th, 2009, 01:21 PM
AMD Sempron from 2004. :x

Still different, you have to look at the XXXX+ number. Since it's 1.8 Ghz I'm assuming you have an AMD Sempron 3000+, which is similar to a 3 Ghz Celeron, but still not great.

One of my old computers had an AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+, running at 2.2Ghz, however the 3800 number meant that its performance was equivalent to an Intel Pentium D 3.8 Ghz. AMD has stopped using this naming scheme though, which makes things a bit more confusing for newbies these days.

DaaxGhost
January 27th, 2009, 07:54 AM
Wow. 2 days and almost 3 pages...


Anyways, I looked on newegg; They've got some good prices for the 3870 and the 4850... no 3850 I saw anymore. :(


Daax described his processor as being a Pentium Four, hence 2.8 Ghz is low by today's standards. But if it were a Core 2 Duo, 2.8 Ghz would be more than enough for many games.

I'm probably going to upgrade my machine as a whole. Getting a new processor, motherboard with PCI-e and AGP slots; and the Radeon 4850.
I got the 2 slot motherboard because sometimes cards work better with agp, or pci. Depends really.

Sound good? :horny:

Xetsuei
January 27th, 2009, 08:27 AM
I got the 2 slot motherboard because sometimes cards work better with agp, or pci. Depends really.

Sound good? :horny:

No, it doesn't. You can't put an AGP card in a PCI-E slot, and vice versa. Show us which parts you will be getting.

E: And for fuck sake, we have a thread stickied for this.

DaaxGhost
January 27th, 2009, 11:51 AM
A thread stickied for this, so... I wanted a thread specific for this card. I was only asking a question about the card.



You can't put an AGP card in a PCI-E slot


^^ Umm no you can't.. I said a motherbaord with THOSE 2 SLOTS. I never said you can put a agp in pci and vice versa. I meant Some cards run with AGP for my motherboard. If not there's a PCI slot for ones that don't.

Doesn't make much sense D:

Mr Buckshot
January 27th, 2009, 11:59 AM
A thread stickied for this, so... I wanted a thread specific for this card. I was only asking a question about the card.



^^ Umm no you can't.. I said a motherbaord with THOSE 2 SLOTS. I never said you can put a agp in pci and vice versa. I meant Some cards run with AGP for my motherboard. If not there's a PCI slot for ones that don't.

Doesn't make much sense D:

I've seen those motherboards with both AGP and PCI-e before. I wouldn't recommend those, they tend not to perform that well anyway. A PCI-e-only motherboard is good enough (and cheaper in a few cases), plus AGP cards are gradually disappearing from the market.

Xet, that comment was really uncalled for. I'm surprised, you haven't heard of such mobos before? They're good ideas in theory but in practice they aren't really worthwhile, especially if you're interested in SLI/Crossfire (such mobos tend to have only ONE PCI-e slot).

InnerGoat
January 27th, 2009, 02:27 PM
Errrrr... lol? The only good PCIe + AGP board was the ASRock s939 DualSATA2. Both slots were full speed and it was also real good at overclocking. 50 dollar budget board supremacy!

DaaxGhost
January 28th, 2009, 08:40 PM
ASRock s939 DualSATA2
^^ I think that's the one I saw at Fry's. Damn memory.

Though I found a nice Proccesor, Intel Core 2 Quad 2.8 GHz 213$

legionaire45
January 28th, 2009, 08:51 PM
I would personally recommend saving up some money and going with an Intel Socket 775 based Mobo and CPU. Prices on those CPUs are pretty damn cheap and they perform much better than pretty much any K8 based Athlon.