Phelps get caught with a bong.

[cheezdue]

EARLIER: Olympic Champion Michael Phelps, who vaulted to international stardom during the 2008 Summer Olympics by winning a record eight gold medals in swimming (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/19/michael-phelps-spitz-take_n_119764.html), has been caught in a very compromising position, according to a report (http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/150832/14-times-Olympic-gold-medal-winner-Michael-Phelps-caught-with-bong-cannabis-pipe.html) by the British paper News of the World.Hes my new hero.:party:

So what do you guys think?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Why is this even news.

[DarkHalo003]

I saw that this morning. It's sort of a little funny, but sort of expected it. Shitiest move to make though, sponsors may leave.


Why is this even news.
Because the media can't conceal things that aren't even supposed to be seen. They show so much shit that shouldn't be shat it's not even funny.

[teh lag]

Wait, so a young person did drugs?

OH MY GOD MY WORLD IS SHATTERED


e : speaking of michael phelps

Fh9gjp1biMg

[DarkHalo003]

It's mainly because Phelps was a role model to millions of people and to young people that this would really be a big issue. If it were anyone else, I doubt it'd make headlines.

[Cojafoji]

The apology that he issued to his fans actually read as something sincere. Maybe the guy was regretful. Oh well. This really is a worthless discussion point.

[Heathen]

Why is this even news.
This.

But its lul because I hate phelps.

[Terry]

I honestly don't even see why anyone cares and why this is such a big deal but ok. I'm speaking mainly to the news reporters by the way. I just don't understand why this would matter enough to make a story.

[jngrow]

Sigh, I can't believe you guys can't see why it's a big deal to some people. I mean, it might not be a big deal to you, but if you really don't understand why this is news to some people, you need to work on your analytical skills.

[klange]

It's obvious why it would be reported. It's the overall outrage that is senseless.

[Terry]

Or those people who care need to work on their priorities.

[ultama121]

Why is this even news.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN, ITS DRUGS, THEY KILL PEOPLE!!1



Mycol Felps

What did I just watch? D:

[Choking Victim]

Why is this even news.
Because when Britney Spears breaks a nail, or celebrity x discovers a grain of sand, the public must be notified.

I can smell the "Truth" ads already.

[Syuusuke]

That's not the only thing he was caught with.
(http://www.collegecandy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/08/michael-phelps-speedo.png)

[Apoc4lypse]

Found this on the same site http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-v-santore/michael-phelps-hypocrasy_b_162939.html thought it was interesting, probably already been posted though

[Mr Buckshot]

Who cares, seriously. It's sad how the public must start screaming every time a celebrity gets in trouble. If it were the president or something, then yes I understand the need to be discussing about whatever scandal went on, but Michael Phelps is just a good swimmer and that's it. I can't stand those people magazine shit and stuff at the Safeway checkout counter, they're a bloody waste of paper (all those tabloids about how actors cheat on one another, etc).

[itszutak]

That's not the only thing he was caught with.
(http://www.collegecandy.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/08/michael-phelps-speedo.png)
goddamnit I clicked the link knowing what to expect but somehow I hoped it wouldn't be :gonk:

[cheezdue]

Who cares, seriously. It's sad how the public must start screaming every time a celebrity gets in trouble. If it were the president or something, then yes I understand the need to be discussing about whatever scandal went on, but Michael Phelps is just a good swimmer and that's it. I can't stand those people magazine shit and stuff at the Safeway checkout counter, they're a bloody waste of paper (all those tabloids about how actors cheat on one another, etc).

It has always been that way with celebrities. But I completely agree with you, people just need to back off of these celebrity's lives.

[Bodzilla]

Who cares, seriously. It's sad how the public must start screaming every time a celebrity gets in trouble. If it were the president or something, then yes I understand the need to be discussing about whatever scandal went on, but Michael Phelps is just a good swimmer and that's it. I can't stand those people magazine shit and stuff at the Safeway checkout counter, they're a bloody waste of paper (all those tabloids about how actors cheat on one another, etc).
i've never agreed with you more.

Burn womens magazines.
i'm serious about that, it's just utter garbage and in reading them (when i have through sheer boredom) i can actually feel my IQ declining.

[English Mobster]

OK, so if Britney Spears farts, the world MUST know?

Seriously, the dude is in his 20s. Yeah, drugs are bad. Yeah, some people probably use him as a role model. But he's at that "experimentation" time of his life.
Cut him some fucking slack, people.

[Mr Buckshot]

i've never agreed with you more.

Burn womens magazines.
i'm serious about that, it's just utter garbage and in reading them (when i have through sheer boredom) i can actually feel my IQ declining.

well if the tabloids want to make a quick buck off the stupid people in this world, go ahead and publish celebrity crap, but DON'T KILL MY PLANET'S TREES FOR IT. There's something called an internet and a subscription service.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Yeah, drugs are bad.

says mr "im high as balls"

[English Mobster]

In the common perception it's bad. I'm just a special case. :p

[Bodzilla]

well if the tabloids want to make a quick buck off the stupid people in this world, go ahead and publish celebrity crap, but DON'T KILL MY PLANET'S TREES FOR IT. There's something called an internet and a subscription service.
and thats where our agreement ended.

They're horrible garbage that affecting peoples minds much more then there doing in harm to the environment.
the more people read these things the less intelligent we become.

fact.

[Pooky]

What do celebrity vaginas look like?

Find out tonight on Weazel!

[Apoc4lypse]

:facepalm:

I love how this threads dicussion turned into "Should celebrities lives be left out of the news"

Personally I don't give a damn, I read what I want to read and I don't read what I don't want to read... xD can't it just be left at that. I mean I understand its ridiculous sometimes, but face facts, its not going to change so why bother talking about it? Especially when your completely changing the subject of the thread. (I'm not stupid I know it has something to do with the subject, but your all just complaining for the sake of posting) Not to mention I'm sure there has been numerous discussions about this on this forum, and it ends in the same way... its not going to change.

Tbh, if you didn't want to hear about it, then why do you continue to bump this topic, if it annoys you that much the smart thing would be to not post and let it die.

Me personally I'm interested in the legalization of weed, and the article (although not linked directly to for god knows what reason in the thread subject, instead its linked to an article about his gold metals and something about ESPN, I had to click on a secondary article to find the real one) is talking about this and makes references to President Obamas views on how the US Justice system currently deals with Drug Offenses.

While I agree that weed probably shouldn't be completely legalized because half the nation would become 100% more stupid than it already is (face it the shit makes you slow and lowers your productivity if you smoke it all the time). The fact is kids experiment, and many people even adults (I do know some) smoke it recreationally. I agree it needs to be limited, but sending people to jail for they're third offence, isn't right. I won't get into it, but in the article it explains how Obama also recognizes that currently Drug charges are treated in a very discriminative way which is also wrong.

H/o Ill get the link to the real article...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-v-santore/michael-phelps-hypocrasy_b_162939.html

E: TheDarkSide also makes a really good point too... hes spent his whole life (or most of it anyway) training for swimming, I would know how much work it takes I was on my highschools swim team. (waits for the speedo insults) your in the pool everyday, the second you stop swimming your skills deteriorate, swimming is one of those sports, the more you do it, the better you are its repetitive, of course theres many different techniques and ways to train yourself and excercises, but it all comes down to swimming A LOT and being disciplined in everything you do from what you eat to how you excercise.

Now that he basically beat the best of the best, he feels like hes done enough, hell 8 olympic gold metals I would too, hes experimenting and he even said this publically that hes going to try new things because his whole life has been swimming, tbh I'm not surprised he decided to try this too. He seems like the kind of guy who realized early in life that you only live once so you better make it worth it, you can usually get these kind of people to try anything at least once and these also tend to be the people who are dedicated enough to make it to the top.

E2: I also managed to delete like a paragraph of something I typed up so you wouldn't have to read the article, but I don't feel like doing it again.

[Bodzilla]

Please mate try to be less TL: DR

a well structured argument is great and productive as long as it's quality and not quantity.
Most of the things you talk about in your posts like this can be trimmed out to make your argument not only easier to read and interpret, but better quality.

ATM whenever you make these posts i give ya the benefit of the doubt by reading it all.... but it aint enjoyable just to the sheer amount of waffle you put in.
Just a little tip.

[Donut]

hes famous for swimming. when he does something swimming related, thats when i want to hear about it.
i dont give a fuck about his personal life.

[Needles]

Am I mean when I say I really don't care what happened to him, and smile about it just a tad since I don't like him?

[Mr Buckshot]

and thats where our agreement ended.

They're horrible garbage that affecting peoples minds much more then there doing in harm to the environment.
the more people read these things the less intelligent we become.

fact.

You have a point, there's also the fact that many of these celebrity tabloid magazines are likely to be lies, hence this is actually a crime, swindling people out of their money :O, the same thing as selling someone a fake rolex at full price.

Still if the government is letting these god awful companies publish this crap, at least prevent them from wasting paper to do it

someone should confiscate all those shitty magazines and convert them to toilet paper, at least people actually benefit from that.

[Jean-Luc]

On the marijuana topic, I've always found it insanely amusing as to the logic of the legal system:

Cigarettes and alcohol are legal and widely distributed, yet they can be directly attributed to the deaths of millions. Smoking pot has never killed a single person, and it's illegal.

Something is amiss here :raise:

[paladin]

ITS THE END OF THE WORLD

[DrunkenSamus]

On the marijuana topic, I've always found it insanely amusing as to the logic of the legal system:

Cigarettes and alcohol are legal and widely distributed, yet they can be directly attributed to the deaths of millions. Smoking pot has never killed a single person, and it's illegal.

Something is amiss here :raise:

Only reason pot isn't legal is because you can grow it in your backyard or something. Remember the 11-month old kid who got his dad arrested? That's why it's illegal.

[Choking Victim]

Only reason pot isn't legal is because you can grow it in your backyard or something. Remember the 11-month old kid who got his dad arrested? That's why it's illegal.
You can grow tobacco in your yard, or make your own alcohol. That's not why it's illegal.

[DrunkenSamus]

You can grow tobacco in your yard, or make your own alcohol. That's not why it's illegal.

Cannabis is a lot easier to grow and you can possibly do it for the rest of your life unnoticed. It grew in my backyard and we called a specialist to remove it. :(

[Bodzilla]

It's illegal because it's very hard to tax.

For tobacco and alcohol theres buisness's and systems set up all over the place to make it easy tax it. For Pot theres no such industry.

[jngrow]

Smoking pot has never killed a single person


While I agree with you on the most part... that statement.. no.

[Bodzilla]

got any evidence to back up that brain washed-paranoid propagandized state of mind Jingrow?

thought not.
because there isnt any.

[Huero]

over time its still bad for your health in the same way that cigs are
maybe thats what he means???

[Mr Buckshot]

got any evidence to back up that brain washed-paranoid propagandized state of mind Jingrow?

thought not.
because there isnt any.

It doesn't directly kill you, but it does help you die faster. Just like cigarettes and over-consumption of alcohol (latter causes liver damage).

drugs/cigarettes are all bad to me.

[Mass]

That's funny, he shouldn't have apologized though. Should have vowed to do it again.


It doesn't directly kill you, but it does help you die faster. Just like cigarettes and over-consumption of alcohol (latter causes liver damage).

drugs/cigarettes are all bad to me.

While I agree with you on the most part... that statement.. no.

over time its still bad for your health in the same way that cigs are
maybe thats what he means???

Evidence gentlemen? You are aware it actually makes you significantly less likely to contract lung cancer or any kind of cancer...

[Huero]

Evidence gentlemen? You are aware it actually makes you significantly less likely to contract lung cancer or any kind of cancer...

um
smoke in lungs
not good for you

I'm going off common sense, I could very well be wrong, though I haven't heard of any positive effects of pot. I'm just assuming that having smoke in your lungs is bad for you.
which it is.

[cheezdue]

Doesn't weed also causes loss of brain cells?

[Mass]

um
smoke in lungs
not good for you

I'm going off common sense, I could very well be wrong, though I haven't heard of any positive effects of pot. I'm just assuming that having smoke in your lungs is bad for you.
which it is.
Yes marijuana has carcinogens in it, but you also smoke about 7-40 times less per day than a cigarette smoker. But here's the important part, the main hallucinogenic chemical in pot, THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) also kills old cells which keeps them from growing cancerous, and it has the potential to choke tumors.

Thus, chances of lung cancer are actually lower.

[Huero]

Yes marijuana has carcinogens in it, but you also smoke about 7-40 times less per day than a cigarette smoker. But here's the important part, the main hallucinogenic chemical in pot, THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) also kills old cells which keeps them from growing cancerous, and it has the potential to choke tumors.

Thus, chances of lung cancer are actually lower.

But smoke in your lungs is still bad, bro.
Regardless, I still want to smoke pot.

[Mass]

But smoke in your lungs is still bad, bro.
Regardless, I still want to smoke pot.
How is something that doesn't cause any sickness, symptoms, or damage bad?

Go for it.

[Huero]

How is something that doesn't cause any sickness, symptoms, or damage bad?

Go for it.

Dirties up your lungs, etc.
Can cause a few health problems when you're older, but those are often found amongst other old people for no reason anyway. It just increases the chances. Then again, it can also cause them earlier than that. Regardless, I'm all for legalizing pot anyway.

[Bodzilla]

um
smoke in lungs
not good for you

I'm going off common sense, I could very well be wrong, though I haven't heard of any positive effects of pot. I'm just assuming that having smoke in your lungs is bad for you.
which it is.
cool evidence bro!

seriously there was a reason i said that the first time.
Go check out some articles and you'll be amazed at to just how brainwashed, lied and deceived you've been.

you might even learn something at the same time :).

[Choking Victim]

Doesn't weed also causes loss of brain cells?
I've got 3-4 friends that have been smoking pretty much weekly for 4-6 years, all of which ace any test thrown at them. (Including all of their AP classes.) Most of what you've heard about the drug is propaganda to keep you from doing it, that is, if you're just going by "truth" ads and whatnot. View the other side of the argument before jumping to conclusions.

[Roostervier]

Huerosam, would you like to be more specific and tell us which "health problems" it causes you to have when you get older? I mean I'm willing to believe you as long as you can provide some evidence. Right now you're just rambling on about how you were told one time that smoking pot is bad for you, so, therefore, it is.

[Huero]

sorry
been brainwashed by propaganda
etc.
you guys have shown me that most of what I've learned about it is bullshit
(also I've lost interest in this conversation)

[cheezdue]

Yes marijuana has carcinogens in it, but you also smoke about 7-40 times less per day than a cigarette smoker. But here's the important part, the main hallucinogenic chemical in pot, THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) also kills old cells which keeps them from growing cancerous, and it has the potential to choke tumors.

Thus, chances of lung cancer are actually lower.

Oh fuck, elementary has been lying to me. Then again, I'm all that not interested in smoking any type of smokes.

[Mass]

Oh fuck, elementary has been lying to me. Then again, I'm all that not interested in smoking any type of smokes.
Oh, and as for your question about brain cells: THC (and other canniboid hallucinogens) lodges itself in the fat in between nerve cells causing them to change the nature and priority of thought processes.

I recommend any nervous first time smoker use a bong, they're very simple to make at home and much more forgiving.

[Apoc4lypse]

Meh... reguardless of how they can't connect weed to any deaths, I could see how it could kill somebody.

It makes you less likely to care about something, if something bad were to happen when you were high and one of your friends lives depended on one of your high asses saving his life, he'd probably be a goner depending on how the weed was effecting everyone (it effects everyone differently).

Lets say the situation was threatening to all of you and was able to scare all of you, but it was only life threatening to one of you, lets say a fire.

Paranoia would have you all running the fuck away and out of the house thats on fire. None of you would be the hero even if you might have had the chance to save his life (lets say he was trapped and couldn't get out) of course you can then argue, lol no one has to be a hero, yea yea ok, if thats your arguement you should probably re-think some of your morale values.

Idk, there are scenerios out there where Weed could indirectly get someone killed or prevent someones life from being saved, idc what any of you say, its possible. Its probably even happened a few times, no one knows about it because well, shits illegal and no one would want to own up to it either.

--------------------------
If you smoke, read this because I kno you probably know people who have tried weed and didn't like it.

And I smoke weed, well I used to anyway (no I didn't stop because of propaganda, I'm on probation and can't risk losing my license, but I'm still considering quitting) I however noticed something very dangerous about the drug right off the bat when I first started using it and I think its what happens to all the people who say they don't like it but still get high off it, more specifically the sensitive ones. (Theres also the ones who for some odd reason are immune to it and just get tired and get headaches)

Up till like a year ago I was strait edge, I started trying shit cuz well I was bored lol. Weed was one of them, first couple times didnt do much (I did notice something was off though). I remember getting preocupied with the sky though watching airplanes fly by lol. 3rd or 4th time it hit me... HARD I'm one of those people who get extremely fucked up off the shit, I have a low tolerance for it.

Anyway you know how sometimes you get so high or high for too long that its actually annoying? Well thats how I felt about it at first (meaning for like 2-3 weeks of smoking it), but something kept making me want to do it inspite of the fact that I didn't like it, because each time I could feel its intensity dropping slightly and it felt better.

People say videogames arn't addicting, I know they arn't physically, tbh I think mental addictions are far more dangerous than physical ones can be if you have emotional problems. I felt like the weed was actually telling me to smoke it, no not that crazy talking to me kind of thing, something in my mind made me believe I wanted more of it even though I wasn't having fun (not yet anyway).

This is because weed causes chemicals in your brain to be produced the same ones that are produced during any fun activity.

I'm not really saying this as fact, I just truly believe that weed does trick the brain into thinking its having fun, when in reality its not because your not really doing anything other than inhaling smoke... xD I'd like to think that I had just the right sensitivity to it that I had a trip where I realized how bad the shit can be for you (the weed enlightened me of its intentions lawl).

Essentially, you've been lied to (no not by the man or gov) but the plant itself lol, so the first time I quit it, it was actually easy, I cold turkeyed it for a month. The second time was harder because I didn't have that little trip I had when I first started smoking it.

Weed makes you think your having fun I mean if thats what you want, go right ahead do it, I could care less, but to me its not worth the risk, not right now anyway, I still can't say with any confidence I will stop for the rest of my life, but I am giving it serious thought.

Just my opinions.

[vega]

pass on grass

[Disaster]

:words:
tl,dr but it's probably true

[Mr Buckshot]

Screw any "positive" things about smoking, it smells terrible anyway.

[SnaFuBAR]

Yes, screw any "positive" (such as medicinal uses) things of it, because it smells terrible.

:rolleye:

[Mr Buckshot]

Yes, screw any "positive" (such as medicinal uses) things of it, because it smells terrible.

:rolleye:

Smoking may potentially have medicinal uses, but it does cause harm, especially if you inhale the smoke rings you puff every time. Like I said I don't think it actually kills, but it hurts.

And it stinks and releases CO2 into the air. Simple chemistry - most combustion reactions produce CO2 as a waste product. Also, I don't think those textbook pictures of blackened smokers' lungs are deceiving.

BACK ON TOPIC:

Michael Phelps is a good swimmer who put on a nice show during the 2008 olympics on TV. That's all I care about. He can do drugs, cheat on his spouse/gf, evade tax, etc, I ain't gonna care, as long as he can swim on TV again.

Same thing with my favorite actors/actresses - who gives a damn about their relationships, all I want to know is what movie they star in and how well they performed their respective roles.

[p0lar_bear]

Screw any "positive" things about smoking, it smells terrible anyway.

Screw any "positive" things about NyQuil, it tastes terrible anyway.

By the way, people on marijuana for medicinal purposes don't smoke joints. They get a vaporizer, since MJ burns pretty hot. Vaporized THC doesn't smell and doesn't damage the lungs. Stop generalizing about things you lack knowledge of past stereotypes.

[Mr Buckshot]

Screw any "positive" things about NyQuil, it tastes terrible anyway.

By the way, people on marijuana for medicinal purposes don't smoke joints. They get a vaporizer, since MJ burns pretty hot. Vaporized THC doesn't smell and doesn't damage the lungs. Stop generalizing about things you lack knowledge of past stereotypes.

ah, but when you drink nyquil or other nasty medicine, you're the one who bears with it, not bystanders. No one has to feel discomfort other than you. But at the bus stop, when people are smoking their cigarettes I get annoyed because while I don't care what they do to themselves, non-smokers have to bear with the smell too. If they're injecting themselves or drinking liquid medication, it affects no one.

[SnaFuBAR]

Smoking may potentially have medicinal uses
It DOES have medicinal uses, not potentially, don't you know that, IB?
, but it does cause harm, especially if you inhale the smoke rings you puff every time. Like I said I don't think it actually kills, but it hurts.
the main hallucinogenic chemical in pot, THC (Tetrahydrocannabinol) also kills old cells which keeps them from growing cancerous, and it has the potential to choke tumors.

And it stinks and releases CO2 into the air. Simple chemistry - most combustion reactions produce CO2 as a waste product.
and CO2 is absorbed by plant life, bfd.
Also, I don't think those textbook pictures of blackened smokers' lungs are deceiving. iirc, that's from the tar in tobacco.
.

[p0lar_bear]

But at the bus stop, when people are smoking their cigarettes I get annoyed because while I don't care what they do to themselves, non-smokers have to bear with the smell too.

Wait, people light up doobies in public where you live?

Shit, be back in a month guys, I'm moving.

[SnaFuBAR]

If they're injecting themselves it affects no one.
Wow, IB, did you really just say that? Seriously? Crackhead mugger for crackmoney might say differently.

[Mr Buckshot]

Wait, people light up doobies in public where you live?

Shit, be back in a month guys, I'm moving.

They put them away when the bus comes, at least they're decent enough to do that. The police don't care, some of them smoke too on the job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_cannabis

I'm aware of the marijuana medical uses. But when people get it for themselves rather than seek a doctor's treatment, they can get addicted to it, and while it may not really damage their actual health it damages their lives. Marijuana's addictive and violence can occur over the trade of marijuana or as a result of its hallucinogenic effects, hence it is bad.

[Mr Buckshot]

Wow, IB, did you really just say that? Seriously? Crackhead mugger for crackmoney might say differently.

I'm referring to direct results. When you're sitting in a corner reading an email from your employer directing you to perform your next hit, it affects no one next to you immediately. The hit is later.

[Bodzilla]

"can's", "would's", "should's", "might", and "i heard's" Dont make compelling arguments buckshot.

[Mr Buckshot]

I'm just saying, no matter what medical uses they have, street drugs like marijuana cause more problems on average than many legal medicinal techniques. Don't tell me you actually want to get some.

As long as it's addictive, people resort to all kinds of nasty things to keep that addiction, whether the substance is legal or not.

[SnaFuBAR]

So because a stereotypically harmless drug is tightly controlled by the gov't (law is what makes the sale or use of marijuana dangerous) you say

Screw any "positive" things about smoking
Why would you even say that?

[Mr Buckshot]

So because a stereotypically harmless drug is tightly controlled by the gov't (law is what makes the sale or use of marijuana dangerous) you say

Why would you even say that?

Because I don't like the smell. Have to stand next to such people all the time in public, not pleasant. It's inconsiderate too, it's like deliberately farting next to a crowd of people. I haven't had passive smoking issues but it's bloody annoying to have to smell that stuff. If you want to smoke, do it in your house or in a smoking-designated area, not next to crowds of non-smokers. Marijuana - I'm not keen on seeing delirious people who could attempt something stupid, whether they decide to attack someone or do something suicidal. If you want medical cannabis, go to a clinic, less risk too.

This is cool though:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_cigarette but it still stinks.

And http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legality_of_cannabis

IIRC, alcohol is extremely useful too (especially on bleeding wounds) and drinking it can provide warmth, but it's too easy to take too much and start doing dumb things. Hence people sell medicinal ethanol (the kind that tastes bad if you try to drink it) for purchase in pharmacies.

[SnaFuBAR]

Because I don't like the smell.
:lmao:

[Mr Buckshot]

:lmao:

So you're saying you want to smoke marijuana someday? Good luck. A lot of the druggies in Vancouver have more than enough education warning them about the dangers of pot, yet they can't control themselves. And the average civilized man will consult the doctor more than the local marijuana dealer should he get cancer.

Tobacco-based cigarettes are horrible, nothing changes that. I hardly talk to smokers anyway, unless they learn to carry mouthwash or potent mint gum at the same time.

I know, IB is awesome shit (except English, I suck at that one), it's easier than AP in some cases too. Anyway I don't take IB Biology any more thank god


Health benefits of smoking

Studies suggest that smoking decreases appetite, but did not conclude that overweight people should smoke or that their health would improve by smoking.[48] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-47)[49] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-48)
Several types of "Smoker’s Paradoxes",[50] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-cohen-49) (cases where smoking appears to have specific beneficial effects), have been observed; often the actual mechanism remains undetermined. Risk of ulcerative colitis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulcerative_colitis) has been frequently shown to be reduced by smokers on a dose-dependent basis; the effect is eliminated if the individual stops smoking.[51] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-ohcm-50)[52] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-51) Smoking appears to interfere with development of Kaposi's sarcoma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaposi%27s_sarcoma),[53] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-52) breast cancer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breast_cancer) among women carrying the very high risk BRCA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRCA) gene,[54] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-53) preeclampsia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preeclampsia),[55] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-54) and atopic disorders (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atopy) such as allergic asthma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allergic_asthma).[56] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-55) A plausible mechanism of action in these cases may be the nicotine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine) in tobacco smoke acting as an anti-inflammatory agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflammation) and interfering with the disease process.[57] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-sciam-56)
Evidence suggests that non-smokers are up to twice as likely as smokers to develop Parkinson's disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkinson%27s_disease) or Alzheimer's disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alzheimer%27s_disease).[58] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-57) A plausible explanation for these cases may be the effect of nicotine, a cholinergic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholinergic) stimulant (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stimulant), decreasing the levels of acetylcholine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetylcholine) in the smoker's brain; Parkinson's disease occurs when the effect of dopamine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine) is less than that of acetylcholine. In addition, nicotine stimulates the mesolimbic dopamine pathway (as do other drugs of abuse), causing an effective increase in dopamine levels. Opponents counter by noting that consumption of pure nicotine may be as beneficial as smoking without the risks associated with smoking.
It has been hypothesized that schizophrenics smoke for self-medication (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-medication).[59] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-58) Considering the high rates of physical sickness and deaths[60] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-59)[61] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-60) among persons suffering from schizophrenia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia), one of smoking's short term benefits is its temporary effect to improve alertness and cognitive functioning in that disease.[62] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-61) It has been postulated that the mechanism of this effect is that schizophrenics have a disturbance of nicotinic receptor functioning.[63] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-62) Rates of smoking have been found to be much higher in schizophrenics.[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#cite_note-63)


Looks convincing enough, but it doesn't stop the other stuff inside cigarettes from doing their damage.

[Bodzilla]

it's not a matter of self-control man, it's about breaking free of the facist socialist system that only targets the bottom feeders while the corporations amass vast treasures that are vital to the well being and safety of the earth!
and the corporations and those.....


see where i'm going with this Buckshit?
you dont know a fucking thing your talking about and you have no capacity to ever be educated on this.
your out of your depth and floundering horribly and it's a tough decision whether or not we through the life boi.

[Mr Buckshot]

There are plenty of successful people who smoke, there are plenty of unsuccessful people who don't smoke.


it's about breaking free of the facist socialist system that only targets the bottom feeders while the corporations amass vast treasures that are vital to the well being and safety of the earth!

Umm...doesn't make sense. Are you saying you are a bottom feeder?

Drugs suck. They used to be perfectly legal y'know when they were first discovered/used. Obviously society had reasons for eventually banning them.

[Bodzilla]

There are plenty of successful people who smoke, there are plenty of unsuccessful people who don't smoke.



Umm...doesn't make sense. Are you saying you are a bottom feeder?

Drugs suck. They used to be perfectly legal y'know when they were first discovered/used. Obviously society had reasons for eventually banning them.
or it could of been they wanted a stigma they could attach to the evil black jazz musicians.

but hey what would i know, i'm not an IB student :downs:


as to my rambling post, you dont see the parody to yours?
oh the calamity, that just makes my point all the clearer for those intelligent enough to see it.

[SnaFuBAR]

So you're saying you want to smoke marijuana someday?
Did I even insinuate that you fucking idiot? You may be IB but you have serious comprehension problems.
Good luck. A lot of the druggies in Vancouver have more than enough education warning them about the dangers of pot, yet they can't control themselves. And the average civilized man will consult the doctor more than the local marijuana dealer should he get cancer.
Yet you say fuck the benefits of smoking since it doesn't have a pleasant aroma.

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[Mass]

Looks convincing enough, but it doesn't stop the other stuff inside cigarettes from doing their damage.

Saying that because daily tobacco smoking is harmful, marijuana smokers must also be damaged by their respective use is like making the claim that indoor plumbing is extremely deadly because people drown in large bodies of water; you're removing so many damn factors about dosage, method and content that you can't possibly manage a useful conclusion.

[kid908]

i have no problem with them smoking. i have many friends who function properly while high. they don't get into fights or any shit.

[ICEE]

Buckshot, based on your arguements I can agree that people shouldn't smoke it in public, for all the same reasons they shouldn't smoke ciggarrettes in public. If you ask me, we should all legalize pot, put a fat ass tax on it and write laws prohibiting its use while driving, in public, or anywhere we don't allow cigs (speaking about America, I don't know anyone else's smoking laws and stuff). The tax will bring in money for the governments wallets, and the laws limiting its use will (in theory) ensure that it doesn't harm or irritate anyone who isn't the actual smoker.

[Mr Buckshot]

I don't know about you people but I actually care about my real-life community here in this city. afaik, legalizing these drugs will do the community more harm than good.

A lot of these drugs have good and bad uses. I remember reading that in the 1700s/1800s, doctors would use heroin as anasthetic during surgery - this is one good use of heroin. But as society progresses, heroin begins to rear an ugly side (addiction and its problems), so it gets banned, plus scientific advances have managed to replace that use of heroin. Or in other cases, the drug can get processed into a less harmful, more practical form that you will see in a pharmacy, the type that no one will be buying to sustain an addiction. Such as morphine from opium - who needs the complete opium when the morphine can be chemically synthesized nowadays and made only available to medics/doctors.

Or with the alcohol that you guys drink (I don't, never will), yeah it can be invaluable in treating injury or getting warm when stranded in snow, but it's easy to get addicted to it and do stupid things as a result, hence I think the government has good reason to tax it and control its sale and usage (e.g. DUI), plus if you need it for treating wounds pharmacies sell rubbing alcohol that you probably won't want to drink.

I support ICEE to an extent, but we can't have too many of these substances being distributed legally. Cigarettes and alcohol are enough.

[Mass]

But that assumes that making it illegal actually has much impact on how much it's used...

[Choking Victim]

Or with the alcohol that you guys drink (I don't, never will), yeah it can be invaluable in treating injury or getting warm when stranded in snow, but it's easy to get addicted to it and do stupid things as a result, hence I think the government has good reason to tax it and control its sale and usage (e.g. DUI), plus if you need it for treating wounds pharmacies sell rubbing alcohol that you probably won't want to drink.
Lighten the fuck up. You know why people drink/smoke/do drugs? It's an escape from reality. The constant repetition of going to work every day, the conformity of modern society. People want an escape from it. Eventually, you will also. Once you learn everything's not black and white.

I'm not trying to pressure you into doing these things, the fact is, you probably will change your mind at some point.

[Donut]

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa199/11jaketucker11/Legalize-Regulate-Round.jpg
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[TeeKup]

Lighten the fuck up. You know why people drink/smoke/do drugs? It's an escape from reality. The constant repetition of going to work every day, the conformity of modern society. People want an escape from it. Eventually, you will also. Once you learn everything's not black and white.

I'm not trying to pressure you into doing these things, the fact is, you probably will change your mind at some point.

Or if you're like me who is naturally non-conformist. :awesome:

[paladin]

I dont give a shit about your community.

btw I took the picture and took a hit after.