Battlefield 1943

[343guiltymc]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/951/951463p1.html
It doesn't look too impressive, but then again it is released through the PSN and Live so I won't be expecting something along the lines of Battlefield 3. :(

[Ki11a_FTW]

looks nice from what I see, maybe ill get it

[TeeKup]

http://goatmilk.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/mushroom-cloud1.jpg

FUCK WORLD WAR 2

[SnaFuBAR]

i guess we know bf 1944 and 1945 are next :v:

[sdavis117]

*Nuke*

FUCK WORLD WAR 2

It's a remake, so it's fair that they are going back there.

[343guiltymc]

Wtf, now they are making BF: Bad Company 2 for the PC and consoles. So there are three Battlefield games in the making, damn.

[Botolf]

I have the real Battlefield 1942 sitting here on my desk.

[Warsaw]

What's with the sequelosis recently? Can nobody think of anything new to make?

[BobtheGreatII]

What's with the sequelosis recently? Can nobody think of anything new to make?

Did you miss out on Mirror's Edge and Dead Space?

[Pooky]

I have the real Battlefield 1942 sitting here on my desk.

^

Truth be told, I wouldn't mind playing that game with better graphics and ESPECIALLY better animations.

Truth be told further, I wouldn't be willing to pay full price for a game to do so.

[sdavis117]

This game won't be more then $20. Maybe less.

Full price this game will not be. Remember, this is an XBL/PSN game.

[Bodzilla]

http://goatmilk.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/mushroom-cloud1.jpg

FUCK WORLD WAR 2
qft.

i mean seriously guys, give it a rest.

[legionaire45]

We'll be playing WWII FPSes when every single WWII Vet is dead in 20 or so years.

Graphics/Destruction is kind of cool though.

<3 Wake Island.

[Heathen]

Did you miss out on Mirror's Edge and Dead Space?
qft

[Warsaw]

Did you miss out on Mirror's Edge and Dead Space?

Exceptions to the trend. And yes, I have not played them.

We had:
CoD 4
CoD 5
Dawn of War II
Gears of War 2
Fable II
Unreal Tournament 3

And now we have Battlefield 1943...

I'm sure there are plenty of others I haven't mentioned, but the sequels outweigh the originals by far.

[Hotrod]

Well, since I've never played the original Battlefield 1942, I'm not too interested in playing this one either.

[Bodzilla]

Exceptions to the trend. And yes, I have not played them.

We had:
CoD 4
CoD 5
Dawn of War II
Gears of War 2
Fable II
Unreal Tournament 3

And now we have Battlefield 1943...

I'm sure there are plenty of others I haven't mentioned, but the sequels outweigh the originals by far.
they have to make money to be able to take the risks of making completely original games.
The games industry is very very cut throat.

[343guiltymc]

http://pc.ign.com/articles/952/952301p1.html

[rossmum]

aw yiss another half-baked game from a franchise ea milked to death about 5 years ago

[Phopojijo]

Actually it looks VERY good. (much more casual than I'd like, but good)

[kenney001]

I loved BF2. This feels like BF2. This game looks AWSOME

[BobtheGreatII]

Am I the only one thinking it looks a bit more cartoony?

[DaaxGhost]

Am I the only one thinking it looks a bit more cartoony?

No, Agreed. I talked about it with some users on my site.

[rossmum]

Actually it looks VERY good. (much more casual than I'd like, but good)
people also said cod5 looked good

they were similarly mistaken

Pretty graphics do not make for a good game, and while this may have the former, the Battlefield franchise should have ended with 2. 1942 was great fun in its day even if it was arcadey to fuck and back, Vietnam was nothing to write home about, but 2 was at least fun and a decent basis for mods like PR and FH2. EA are notorious for bleeding anything that sells dry, and this is just a further example of it. That said, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it sold incredibly well while far superior games are overlooked just because their graphics are slightly dated or they aren't marketed by being shoved in gamers' faces every time they load up a webpage or walk past an EB. Out of all the WWII games I've played, the best by far have been the more obscure games (I'm a realism freak so I'm biased, but whatever) - Red Orchestra, which suffers from a criminal lack of advertising; Men of War, which I wouldn't even know about if it wasn't for a friend who is a die-hard Soldiers player; and to an extent, BiA, which only recently seemed to reach the kind of advertising level where people recognise the name.

I'd love for EA to pleasantly surprise me for once, but I'm not holding my breath. If this turns out to be worth my attentions, I will be deeply amazed.

[343guiltymc]

The game doesn't looks to be targeted towards realism freaks.

[Reaper Man]

I miss Battlefield 2. Best of the series, in my opinion (man, I spent many hours playing that game). I'd love to see BF2 with updated grahpics etc, rather than yet another WWII shooter.

[rossmum]

The game doesn't looks to be targeted towards realism freaks.
thanks for the expert assessment, i would never have guessed a battlefield game wasn't meant to be utterly and uncompromisingly realistic

[Phopojijo]

Pretty graphics do not make for a good gameWasn't talking about graphics.

[Mr Buckshot]

people also said cod5 looked good

they were similarly mistaken

Pretty graphics do not make for a good game, and while this may have the former, the Battlefield franchise should have ended with 2. 1942 was great fun in its day even if it was arcadey to fuck and back, Vietnam was nothing to write home about, but 2 was at least fun and a decent basis for mods like PR and FH2. EA are notorious for bleeding anything that sells dry, and this is just a further example of it. That said, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it sold incredibly well while far superior games are overlooked just because their graphics are slightly dated or they aren't marketed by being shoved in gamers' faces every time they load up a webpage or walk past an EB. Out of all the WWII games I've played, the best by far have been the more obscure games (I'm a realism freak so I'm biased, but whatever) - Red Orchestra, which suffers from a criminal lack of advertising; Men of War, which I wouldn't even know about if it wasn't for a friend who is a die-hard Soldiers player; and to an extent, BiA, which only recently seemed to reach the kind of advertising level where people recognise the name.

I'd love for EA to pleasantly surprise me for once, but I'm not holding my breath. If this turns out to be worth my attentions, I will be deeply amazed.

Didn't you try BF2142? It had the same engine as BF2, a little outdated when it released but still very fun. I actually prefer BF2142 over BF2.

No shit, pretty graphics don't make a good game. Look at Doom 3 - undeniably the most advanced technology of its time, but pretty dull gameplay.

BF1943? Fail. The WWII genre is feeling a little tired, the present-day genre is still fresh for another Battlefield game, and the sci-fi futuristic genre really has potential in the BF series, seeing how BF2142 played fairly well.

Joke: Maybe they should make a Battlefield 50 BC or something where everyone has to use Roman swords and spears. Or they should make a Battlefield 18-something with bayonets and muskets, whatever. Of course, that doesn't work out in practice.

[n00b1n8R]

Clearly you never played 2142 right after it's release.
It was (and remains to this day) the signle most buggy pile of howdidtheyeverreleasethis I ever played.

Half a gig of patching later and it's playable, but still, WTF DICE/EA?

[Phopojijo]

'least it got better after patching unlike BF2 :p

[Mr Buckshot]

Clearly you never played 2142 right after it's release.
It was (and remains to this day) the signle most buggy pile of howdidtheyeverreleasethis I ever played.

Half a gig of patching later and it's playable, but still, WTF DICE/EA?

I bought it during winter break 2008. A little late I know, but yeah it was playable because I patched it immediately. The bugs that remained weren't that annoying. Anyway n00b1n8r, you might not have tried Splinter Cell Double Agent for PC, it was buggier.

Anyway, EA's copy protection also happens to suck balls, I heard a lot of users complaining about how the anti-piracy software built in caused so many problems.

[rossmum]

Didn't you try BF2142? It had the same engine as BF2, a little outdated when it released but still very fun. I actually prefer BF2142 over BF2.
I don't believe in paying for what amounts to little more than a mod, and a buggy one at that. Yes, it looked fun, but the fact remains any halfway-decent mod team could have done the same and not charged for it. Oh, EA, you money-grubbing bastards.


BF1943? Fail. The WWII genre is feeling a little tired, the present-day genre is still fresh for another Battlefield game, and the sci-fi futuristic genre really has potential in the BF series, seeing how BF2142 played fairly well.
No, the genre isn't tired. The problem is that the big devs just keep force-feeding us the same fucking battles over and fucking over and expect us to keep enjoying them. Why not include some less publicised but equally important or vicious battles? Why not have a campaign from the perspective of some lowly German soldier, fighting on every front before the inevitable defeat? Why not make a WWII game that focuses entirely on the Paras rather than the American airborne divisions (Paras as in the Parachute Regiment). Why not the fledgling SAS in the desert and through Europe, far ahead of the Allied advance? There is still plenty of life left in the WWII genre, people just need to get the fuck over the by-now cliche battles and start taking it in a new direction, which no amount of new weapons or retarded 'I get points for killing Germans then an attachment magically appears on my gun' system can remedy.

[343guiltymc]

Well at the very least the game might still be used for future mods.

[rossmum]

If the only reason for buying a game is that it might be used for mods at some point, it's not worth buying until several good mods are actually out.

[343guiltymc]

If the only reason for buying a game is that it might be used for mods at some point, it's not worth buying until several good mods are actually out.

Don't a lot people buy games for their mods? :confused:

[Phopojijo]

I don't believe in paying for what amounts to little more than a mod, and a buggy one at that. Yes, it looked fun, but the fact remains any halfway-decent mod team could have done the same and not charged for it. Oh, EA, you money-grubbing bastards.And yet you laud Red Orchestra which is a mod... that you did pay for.

[LinkandKvel]

Wow guys get over yourselves. It's just a fucking remake it's not like their forcing it down your throats. It's updated with graphics, destructible environments etc. It's not a COMPLETE new game like CoD5 was. What's the problem? Don't like it, just don't pay mind to it. Simple as that.

[Jean-Luc]

^^

A good idea in theory, but you gotta realize that so long as there is a divisive issue at hand, everyone will put their two cents in.

That said, I'm still a big fan of Battlefield 1942 (think I still have it actually), so to see it with updated graphics is just wonderful.

[Warsaw]

And yet you laud Red Orchestra which is was a mod and is now a full-fledged game with a sequel on the horizon... that you did and will pay for.


FTFY

Red Orchestra is also the Eastern front, which no game covers well at all except RO. Call of Duty 2, 3, and 5 are horrid representations in every respect.

[Phopojijo]

It's as much of a game as 2142 is, is the point dude.

[rossmum]

And yet you laud Red Orchestra which is a mod... that you did pay for.
heh.

HEH.

RO: Ostfront has had a LOT of work done on it, and is a standalone game with three major mods of its own and several more in the works. Should've researched before your little over-defensive outburst there, the mod is entirely different and it's for a game I don't even have.


Don't a lot people buy games for their mods?
Generally once the mods are out...


It's not a COMPLETE new game like CoD5 was.
LOL, YOU'RE FUNNY

[Warsaw]

Actually Ross, the RO Mod v3.33 (for UT2k4) is exactly the same as the RO game, except you can't move while reloading in prone, the bots are slightly more idiotic, and the textures and sounds on the guns are much better (in my opinion). Also has some unique maps like Sevastopol and Ponyri.

[Lateksi]

Battlefield games are great and you really have to work as a team. Well, I know people who can work alone in the field but usually it would be stupid and fatal. I have BF 1942, 2142, 2 and I'm waiting for the "third" game (I hope it's modern warfare and not this 1943!) Guys at Dice are working their asses off lol?

[rossmum]

Actually Ross, the RO Mod v3.33 (for UT2k4) is exactly the same as the RO game, except you can't move while reloading in prone, the bots are slightly more idiotic, and the textures and sounds on the guns are much better (in my opinion). Also has some unique maps like Sevastopol and Ponyri.
While I agree on the sounds (and I wish they'd kept the gaiters for the Germans, as knee-high jackboots were rare as the war progressed), the retail version is capable of supporting entire mods on its own, with no other games required. Some of the 3.3 maps haven't been ported yet, but many of the maps have and newer retail maps are of an excellent standard themselves. As someone who doesn't have a single UT game and doesn't even like the core game, I see no hypocrisy at all in hyping up Ostfront, a standalone game made by a company who does not pay shit all to the developers behind UT, over BF2142, a quick commercial mod of BF2 which seems to have had little purpose other than raking in more cash for EA - why else would they sell it as a whole new game?

[343guiltymc]

Battlefield games are great and you really have to work as a team. Well, I know people who can work alone in the field but usually it would be stupid and fatal. I have BF 1942, 2142, 2 and I'm waiting for the "third" game (I hope it's modern warfare and not this 1943!) Guys at Dice are working their asses off lol?

They're making Battlefield:Bad Company 2 and releasing sometime in 2010, we may not get a the "third game" in a long time.

[Phopojijo]

While I agree on the sounds (and I wish they'd kept the gaiters for the Germans, as knee-high jackboots were rare as the war progressed), the retail version is capable of supporting entire mods on its own, with no other games required. Some of the 3.3 maps haven't been ported yet, but many of the maps have and newer retail maps are of an excellent standard themselves. As someone who doesn't have a single UT game and doesn't even like the core game, I see no hypocrisy at all in hyping up Ostfront, a standalone game made by a company who does not pay shit all to the developers behind UT, over BF2142, a quick commercial mod of BF2 which seems to have had little purpose other than raking in more cash for EA - why else would they sell it as a whole new game?Because it had a whole game's amount of content?
(Also, the mod kit they included with Red Orchestra is provided by Epic Games when they won Make Something Unreal Contest 2004... all licensees have that option (even contest winners).)

And if you wanted to go for hypocracy...

the mod is entirely different and it's for a game I don't even have....

the mod is entirely different
a game I don't even have.But that's a digression.

[sdavis117]

I'm just waiting for Battlefield Heroes.

A free game published by EA. A paradox if I have ever seen one.

[rossmum]

Because it had a whole game's amount of content?
(Also, the mod kit they included with Red Orchestra is provided by Epic Games when they won Make Something Unreal Contest 2004... all licensees have that option (even contest winners).)

And if you wanted to go for hypocracy...
...
But that's a digression.
uhhh

Well let's see, I really want to go buy UT then blow my download limit on a mod which lacks a lot of the polish and additional user-created content of the retail game, then never play the core game despite it using up valuable HDD space. Yes, that makes perfect sense, I'll be sure to do that all the time from now on. I mean, who would want to buy the retail version, what with its polish and mods of its own and save all that time, energy and space in the process? Are you serious? RO:O was made using a license won in the contest, meaning that my money goes to TWI, not Epic. BF2142 was made by EA and Dice, as was the game it was essentially a mod of. Yes, I will pay the same company twice for something which could have been done by someone else for free! This is a great idea! :downs:

e/

oh ps wasn't aware it was physically impossible to know anything about a mod without personally owning the game it runs on

[ExAm]

I miss Battlefield 2. Best of the series, in my opinion (man, I spent many hours playing that game). I'd love to see BF2 with updated grahpics etc, rather than yet another WWII shooter.Yeah, as long as it doesn't run on an absolutely shitty engine. movement in BFBC felt kinda sluggish in my opinion, and the field of view is completely out the window. If they make a graphically updated BF2, it'd better feel like BF2, goddamnit.

[Lateksi]

B2 had horrible hit detection/register online and the movement and scope bugs weren't nice ;(

[Phopojijo]

I didn't have any such problems in Battlefield 2.

My problems with the game were terrible crashing, occasional and random input-delay (mostly with 2142), and other hiccups.

[NT Studios]

They should have done this AFTER Battlefield 1942 >=(

[Phopojijo]

They did :p

[DaaxGhost]

Right after 1942. :fail:

[Abdurahman]

LOOONG time bumping, but it's finally out! From the looks of it its a really fun game. Only 1200 MS points too. I bought it and downloading now.

[sdavis117]

I downloaded the Trial and it can't connect to the EA servers. It also says I'm going to need an EA account if I ever get it to connect to the EA servers, which sucks. I mean my Gamertag should be enough. Why do I need two ID's just to play one game?

[Abdurahman]

It's always been like that, even with BF Modern Combat.

[SonicXtreme]

its a good game , but trust me the servers are so messed up atm , your better of waitting to buy it