CMT_Rc1_Snow_Grove

[Masterz1337]

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/6595/cmth2vforumslogomz3.jpg

http://cmt.h2vista.net/moojuice/CMT_RC1_Snowgrove.rar

Everything in here is finalized. I highly doubt there will be bugs found in this, but if nothng major is found, this should be out in the next few days.


Ded is up and running playing this map only for the next few days. So come join. And remember, don't re-distribute this beta, especialy to that annoying Stealth character.:suicide:

[Phopojijo]

RC1 and Beta -- honestly, redundant? :p

[Masterz1337]

for the intelligent impared :-p

[jcap]

RC1 and Beta -- honestly, redundant? :p
Actually, it's contradictory...

[Phopojijo]

Meh, Beta just means non-stable (edit: and feature complete) build. RC just means Release Candidate. You can have a non-stable release candidate. Hell, according to EA, you can have a non-stable release.

[Pooky]

That's quite a long download there, especially for a 6 MB/s connection

EDIT: Also, +rep Phopojijo (http://h2vista.net/forums/member.php?u=283)

[Chief117]

I thought the map before was the last public beta, oh well. This is gonna be so cool. Saw u guys testin' this the other day.

[Arteen]

This map is enjoyable.

[Pooky]

MA5K needs to get beefed up. Otherwise, agree with Arteen.

[m13120]

Lol pooky those were some fun matches we played, I think that MA5K reload needs to be faster, maybe given a zoom for the range it can shoot x.x. And also move back warps, and in gametypes such as Slayer and King, damn, move the spawn points away from the center so we don't keep getting spawn killed.

[Hurrvish]

finally... dling as soon as i get onto my other comp

[HDoan]

goody goody gum drops another beta

[AAA]

Beta Thread soon mb? I found a couple, small bugs but, they're bugs

btw, Grove is still as laggy as ever for my comp =/ but, it's pretty cool

[Masterz1337]

Post all bugs in here. I saw

AR to acurate
Nades need a bit more strength
Hogs need new passenget meters referanced.

[AAA]

The MA5K's HUD Ammo Bar doesn't move until it's at 38 ammo from 45.

When the MA5K Runs out of Ammo, the Ammo bar still contains a bit filling, as if there's still ammo. AR does same thing. Even though they both are reloading.

AR is WAAAAAAAAyyyy tooo accurate.

Frags need a tone down. Plasma are okay with a little less tone than the frags.

I would post pics...but, I feel lazy right now.

[I_Am_Error117]

So um is this on a server?

[AAA]

Actually, it's the map in general

btw, I did not say that in a snotty form or way. I was giving necessary info.

[Elite Killa]

This was unexpected.

Thanks a lot!

[Pooky]

Post all bugs in here. I saw

AR to acurate
Nades need a bit more strength


... I don't see either of those things as bad. In the 2 hours I've played the map everything except the MA5K felt perfectly balanced. HDoan got nade kills on everyone like crazy. they're fine. I found one thing that really bugged me though.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/70e2fa7d287d9b386b93fa5bc23ce4f27cab24c3.png

The Spiker reticule is WAY off center, I fired some MA5K shots then switched to the spiker without moving to demonstrate.

[AAA]

a change on spiker crosshair alltogether? cause, I don't like it....but, that's my opinion, when I first looked at it, I thought "oh, it's that crosshair from that turret, just twisted a litttle more, how cheap"
=/
maybe something a bit more fit for a spiker that you know with tear the crap outta people?....Maybe it's just me.

That was a bit random, but I thought I should throw it out there considering I've held it in for a while.

[Pooky]

Well, if you look at the crosshair on the laser, it's just a portmanteau of a bunch of other crosshairs. I just wouldlike it centered.

[Masterz1337]

The spiker doesnt fire a the center of the reticle, it's not totaly acurate. Same thing would happen with smg.

[Pooky]

No... I mean the reticule is NOT in the center of the screen like it should be. It's off to the right

[HDoan]

HDoan got nade kills on everyone like crazy.
I win!:D.
When I fire with the shotgun it says "Reloading" but im glad you fixed the smg sound...

[m13120]

Masterz, nothing is wrong with AR, do not change it:)

[DaneO'Roo]

shall test soon

[n00b1n8R]

wtf 43mb?
that's half the size of a SP level!!

42%..

[DaneO'Roo]

AR Reticle too small, Cornflake Rocket explosions, and thats about al i can see, oh wait, my texture around the walls of the bases, needs it's bump height adjusted ;) (unless you can't do that in HEK, wich would be pretty silly)

[Pooky]

That was funny... they're all stupid looking when you flashlight them. And I didn't notice the rocket explosions till Dane pointed them out. Fix that shit, they needs the old one back.

[Pooky]

Found another bug, this with the MA5K. Unless you completely empty your clip, there's no sound when you pull the bolt back

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/a1ac86fc0b0cc0275d9679a4dc7effae457c9589.png

Also, when firing the laser into ice, it doesn't make a mark. Shouldn't it? EDIT- also no mark when hitting snow. It's a super hot beam of light firing at ice...

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/cce13bd5b1a93e3e9759e2b33bce683e80f6cfc5.png

When firing BRG nades into ice, it sounds like a water splash? I believe this was also reported by people playing Icy Swamps.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/0415cbf4718ab8740d2d330815a9e0e315f24981.png

Pistol doesn't make bullet holes in the snow either. Actually, so far, nothing has made bullet holes in the snow.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/850046aa504c8e7d2b825f25f6aefbaac7eae190.png

When firing the shotgun, it says reloading weapon everytime I fire a shot

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/2acfaf24144283d34ffa4ee03d171f09cb8c1b45.png

When the MA5K clip is empty, the bar isn't completely depleted

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/f6512e24f8621c7aa4c2a3caca31f78a4bea5477.png

Finally, CMT's warthogs are either really light, or the nades are really powerful, cause I found an amusing stunt you can pull

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/medium/af20ac6888706bd4400506117c915bdabf03ccbc.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/medium/d075cd34cae11781c68c0a88b0af61c8aa8dc96b.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/medium/1982ecb3e0465042a0f2747fb24e85a2db480d67.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/medium/9e068616c393652ce546abfb6a7a59d949223eda.png

[MikeM709]

Oh! I can't wait to try this one out. Hopefully not as buggy as the first maps....

[JDMFSeanP]

I think the Laser should reflect off of the ice for a realistic affect, and make like a steam-ish thing in the show.

[AAA]

Oh! I can't wait to try this one out. Hopefully not as buggy as the first maps....

it is.

[Masterz1337]

Care to elaborate?

[Chief117]

Recoil for the battle rifle is a little late. It pushes back after the rounds are shot. Btw for plasma grenade I think you should keep it to the electricity/plasma instead of the blast lines in the explosion.

[AAA]

I don't know why, but it's still laggy for me on my copmuter. when I shoot the MA5K in the base, or anywhere for that fact, It seems to encourage the lag that's already there a little bit, and look out from the base, I still don't know why, I get real laggy. just, the map n general is laggy, just like the old CMT Grove was...

[I_Am_Error117]

I meant is some one histing a server? Cant dl until later so i guess if theres a server ill se yall there

[Roostervier]

The animations for the MA5K need to be improved. For one, when you reload, I can tell you don't end up with the origins at the end of the animation (and if it does, it doesn't look like this). Having this there makes it look smooth. Another thing is that the hand(right hand) shakes on a single frame when you reload. By shake, I mean it moves to a wierd place and back to where it was. This is an unfortunate side effect of something executed in the animation making process most times.... just make sure you fix it, it bothers me alot =p.

[n00b1n8R]

i'd sum the map up as the product of a gang rape of helix canyon and snowtorn cove on danger canyon.

i like it :)

[Pooky]

Oh fuck there's another one.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/59248b9fe5812778ebbcf09119d8942f903d6369.png

Plasma shots bounce off shit they ain't supposed to. Also, as Dane said, this map needs to be named Snowtorn Grove

[I_Am_Error117]

Plasma shots bounce off shit they ain't supposed to.


If the H3 people no projectile shield was put in map this would have fungame play, or a needelocity, with this effect on walls :lol:

[Pred1ator]

yay im finally in the section, I thank all of those who helped me reach 30 rep, i truly do, this mean alot. as for the map im downloading it right now and testing it :D

[Hotrod]

I'm downloading the map right now. I too have to thank everybody that helped me get here. Anyways, can't wait to play this.

[Pred1ator]

i truly love the ma5k, even though its plain, anyone know where galilean is? i cant find it...

[TeeKup]

The MA5K will rape you at short range. I love it.

[HDoan]

the galilian is in the middle, but like every minute or so it turns into a rocker launcher.

[Timo]

To fix this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/Timo12/Image_000029-1.jpg
(missing strings)
add "SHOW RULES" and "SHOW PLAYER NAMES" (in that order) at the bottom of
this string list: tags\ui\shell\main_menu\settings_select\player_set up\player_profile_edit\controls_setup.controls_bin ding_labels.unicode_string_list

I know it's a bug in all Halo CE maps/ingame UI's, but it'd be good to fix. Possibly move "CMT.H2VISTA.NET" to the bottom right/left corner of the pause menu aswell?

Edit: I'm not sure if this is supposed to happen, but BRG nades don't affect hogs?

[HDoan]

Lies! Brg do affect grenades, you could send a hog high with one of them, good for stopping flaggers

[Timo]

Only from the front. Try firing off a brg nade at the back of a hog, nothing happens.

[Xetsuei]

Pistol doesn't make bullet holes in the snow either. Actually, so far, nothing has made bullet holes in the snow.


TURN DECALS ON. ._.

EDIT: Infact turn everything on and everything to high. It will answer most of your questions.

[Chief117]

O, just found another. Picking up Battle Rifle ammo is completely silent again.

[Pred1ator]

eh, thats not rly a HUGE error gears,

Permission from CMT to make a Movie using this map please

[Masterz1337]

Go Ahead.

[Pred1ator]

yay, just incase you were wondering, just a simple teaser for teh map

[Pooky]

Xetsuei™;41251']TURN DECALS ON. ._.

EDIT: Infact turn everything on and everything to high. It will answer most of your questions.

Everything is on and on high, thank you very much. The Pistol does not make bullet holes in the fucking snow. Seriously, I would have to be a fucking retard to say that cause I had decals off, cause then other maps wouldn't have them either.

[Hotrod]

I was testing this map earlier with development mode turned on and i noticed that when you spawn all the vehicles, there's a Flamethrower Warthog. Will this be in the final version of the map?

[Masterz1337]

No, it's nuero's for CMT_immure

[Hotrod]

Ok then. Will it be in SPv2?

[Masterz1337]

No, it is made from ripped h2 content, and will not be used in our mod. The only map it will be is CMT_immure, which is just a version of nuero's map with our content.

[Pooky]

If you switch between the ma5k and brg really fast, you get some wierd animations... this is one of them

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/d0322084f02d681e528602a59881f24498c74736.png

Also my SMG appears to have two muzzle flashes....

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/c5e81a19a4cd7c833f56a2332f9f8f11bd167751.png

[Pred1ator]

where is L33ts backpack mod btw?

[DaneO'Roo]

lol, Snowtorn Grove ftw

[Masterz1337]

where is L33ts backpack mod btw?
Not important enough to take resources away from SPV2.

[Pred1ator]

well, it would be cool seeing spartans in MP with weapons on their backs but w/e you say

heres the movie I made btw, some may like it, some may not

http://useruploads.mythica.org/view/snowgrove.wmv

[Hotrod]

Why don't you put the backpack tags in MP? There's enough room in the maps for it.

[AAA]

Why don't you put the backpack tags in MP? There's enough room in the maps for it.

I have no idea why you guys won't..................oh, wasn't it that problem about not being able to access campaign scripts??....

[Hotrod]

You don't need to access the campaign scripts to but in scripts in Mp.

[AAA]

You don't need to access the campaign scripts to but in scripts in Mp.

oh, ty.

[Masterz1337]

We arn't doing backpack for the mod, because it is not considered to be important enough to take efforts away from SPv2. If someone outside the team we trust will do it, well, then we'll let them do it, but we have a deadline (may 8th) to have spv2 out. And if it's not ready by then, well, I know I'm jumping ship and not returning to H1 until xbox co-op is possible.

[rossmum]

Ugh, I give up.

Seriously, working to a deadline like that is not going to do any favours for the release. If it's even half as buggy as some of the RCs (which is pretty likely if you're rushing to get it out by then), I wouldn't even consider it worth downloading. Really, why? What difference does it make in the end? There's no need to rush to H2V because not everyone will be getting it the first day it's out and leaving CE for dead the second H2V hits shelves strikes me as a really, really bad idea.

Oh well, we'll see...

[n00b1n8R]

and alot of people don't have vista and won't be for a while (i'm waiting to buy my own computer and even then i'll be waiting for SPV1)

heck not even microsoft is ditching XP yet, there still developing SPv3

[StankBacon]

pooky, the pistol, even in standard maps, never made marks in the snow.

[Pred1ator]

wow, may 8 is right around the corner...and so is Baseball season O.O, this might be good, I might feel the same way I did when SPv1 was released :D

[rossmum]

pooky, the pistol, even in standard maps, never made marks in the snow.
Did for me, I think...

Either way, doesn't mean it's not worth fixing.

[Timo]

This font is horrible. It should be displayed at the size it is in my sig, not this huge:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/Timo12/Image_000030-1.jpg

[n00b1n8R]

never stuck around for the post game :P
when was that? i'da loved a go V_V

[Arteen]

and alot of people don't have vista and won't be for a while
But modding H2V will be more fun than modding HCE. That's why CMT will be moving on.

[MikeM709]

Yea I agree with Tim on this one. That font HAS to go. The map is overall ok but that font just makes me not want to play it. Please use arial instead.

[itszutak]

Or default halo font. <_<

[teh lag]

Or default halo font. <_<

I approve this message.

I told you, Masterz, that this font wasn't the best idea.

[Pred1ator]

wtf, i thought the text was the most l33test thing that ever hit this map....

[Arteen]

I think the font is fine.

[Hurrvish]

the font screamed "PACMAN!" to me

[Pooky]

I like the font.

[I_Am_Error117]

the font screamed "Microsoft Paint!" to me


yeah looks like a letter i could make woth a bunch of lines

[rossmum]

I like the font.
I don't know why, but me too, actually. Even if it has been pixellated to hell and back, I do kinda like it.

[TeeKup]

Only from the front. Try firing off a brg nade at the back of a hog, nothing happens.

He's right. I do it in coag. The hog warps as if its going to tumble then warps back to a straight path. Personally I find this irritating.:confused2:

[Edward Elrich]

um... that's not a glitch. That's network lag.

[Roostervier]

I could do the back pack mod, though no one in CMT really knows me so you probably don't trust me. @ rossmum, I agree. Deadlines allowing no time = not even worth making a mod. However, deadlines aren't all bad. Also, I know I'm not getting H2V right away. In fact, I probably will not get it within a year of its release date. I will be stuck with halo ce, and getting a decent SP mod would be nice. Anyway, for the backpack mod... I made my own (using L33T's source files and script for reference, thanks man) for the halo 2 biped. Here are some pictures:
http://srp.byethost18.com/pictures/backpack_mod_h2/backpackh2_1.JPG
http://srp.byethost18.com/pictures/backpack_mod_h2/backpackh2_2.JPG
http://srp.byethost18.com/pictures/backpack_mod_h2/backpackh2_3.JPG
http://srp.byethost18.com/pictures/backpack_mod_h2/backpackh2_4.JPG

[n00b1n8R]

i don't see what CMT has to loose? it's not like he's leaked it yet and if he goes and fucks the map, you've got the old version. but then he'd have all the tags..

again, he hasn't leaked this map..

[HDoan]

Didn't Masterz or something say that you need to use Cmt's special HEK tools to compile and maps and such?

[Roostervier]

Well, if I did leak the content I would pretty much be ruined for HCE and H2V. Take Hogdriver for example. No one would ever download my maps, and I'd have a horrible reputation.

[n00b1n8R]

hogdriver advertises in his sig at halomaps about how he has 1000 something DL's of some mod he made >.>

[Roostervier]

So I was right when I told my friend he was the only one DLing his map? O.o Anyway, if I were to do the backpack mod for CMT, it would be safe to say I don't want to end up like that >_>.

[I_Am_Error117]

I don't know why, but me too, actually. Even if it has been pixellated to hell and back, I do kinda like it.


Right like I said Ms pain, that wasnt an insult, just a joke.


I also like the font reminds me of a long time ago in aa land known as DOS :lol:

[AAA]

so.....could we just trust the guy about putting the backpack mod in? considering Halo 2 Vista is coming out soon...........could put it in as an extra, mb?..............no flame, just a suggestion...

[DaneO'Roo]

As a team member, hes got my vote. I for one would love the backpack mod in. Talk to masterz about it flyingrooster :)

[Roostervier]

Alright, I will. Thanks for the approval.

[SMASH]

I don't think we will be. In SP it's pretty much a horrible waste of space cause the only time you'd see it is if you were dead, or on a vehicle. There's no way to justify Backpack mod in SP.

In MP, it might be possible but probobly not realistically going to be put in. Too much unneeded work for it, then it also wastes tag space. I donno, if this'll be done either, and I doubt it.

[rossmum]

I don't think we will be. In SP it's pretty much a horrible waste of space cause the only time you'd see it is if you were dead, or on a vehicle. There's no way to justify Backpack mod in SP.
Except for all those people who play in 3rd person.


In MP, it might be possible but probobly not realistically going to be put in. Too much unneeded work for it, then it also wastes tag space. I donno, if this'll be done either, and I doubt it.
From what I gather it doesn't take much work or space.

[Roostervier]

I can understand that, but if I gave backpack weapons to everything (there by further increasing the tag space... =p) then it wouldn't be such a waste... then you'd see it on everyone.

[edit] @ross
You are right, it does not take much work, but it takes a pretty long time. Good point about the 3p users.

[AAA]

if there's still tag space in the end, why not go ahead and let Rooster add it?

It's just like the glits and glammer you've put in to making the AR shiny, all that good stuff, it's the same concept you guys are using, just for a backpack mod. That means, you guys made everything more shiny because you thought it would look cool/nice. Well, why not add a backpack mod to make it even more cooler/nicer?

That means customizing the backpack mod to hold the CMT weapons instead of the defaults.

[Hotrod]

They have said it before but i will just say it again : The backpack weapons cannot be added into SP because it's a script, and it isn't possible to add scripts in SP yet, so we can stop talking about it now.

[I_Am_Error117]

I wnana be on the sign. lol. anyone found the sign yet.

[rossmum]

They have said it before but i will just say it again : The backpack weapons cannot be added into SP because it's a script, and it isn't possible to add scripts in SP yet, so we can stop talking about it now.
Where? Link? Would find it myself, but it's kinda 5AM and... yeah. :eyesroll:

[Hotrod]

Look at Teh Lag's post http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1440&page=5 he says that they don't have access to the campaigns scripts.

[AAA]

I have no idea why you guys won't..................oh, wasn't it that problem about not being able to access campaign scripts??....

I mentioned it a little while after aswell, but everyone said that was wrong :mad:

[Roostervier]

Well, I am doing for MP at the moment. I have actually made some progress already. Maybe when Prom is released they can use it for SP.

[DaneO'Roo]

pfft dont worry about tag space people. Teh Lag made a big difference in that department <3 fucking h4x mate, fucking h4x.

Now, in most levels, we actually have MORE free tag space then we did in SP v1, even WITH all our current stuff in them. PLENTY of room for shit now :D

[Hotrod]

So does that mean that you could put in the Flood Juggernaut?

[n00b1n8R]

and the reaper?
and fancy hod damage?

and other sexys?

[HDoan]

And and and the kitty cannon?

[Pooky]

And your mom?

I don't really care about multiplayer that much anymore, I WANT MY SINGLE PLAYER >=|

[Love De Lux]

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3300/93440919bb1.jpg

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/9458/44279996gk6.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3386/20402452kn0.jpg

[n00b1n8R]

CMT made a secret room :O

guide?

[rossmum]

Sweet, name's still on there :3

[Timo]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/Timo12/Image_000029-2.jpg
Good to know i'm still famous.

[Boba]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/Timo12/Image_000029-2.jpg
Good to know i'm still famous.
...why isn't my name on there?...:((I mean if Talking Rain's name is on there, come on!)

[n00b1n8R]

so am i the only one who doesn't know how to get in there :cry:

[Hotrod]

I don't know how to get in there either.

[Hurrvish]

have sex with arteen ;)

[Edward Elrich]

the server's gone, I can't find it.

[Arteen]

Good to know i'm still famous.
Sorry, meant to fix that. :p


...why isn't my name on there?...:(
If your name isn't on it, you didn't post your name in the thread. :cool:

[Hotrod]

What thread are you talking about?

[HDoan]

Arteen made a thread long ago before the release of thread, it was on a bulling ton board behind the old water fall were it listed people who posted on the thread to be famous and already famous people. Im on the Wanna be famouse list on the second row, on the top

[Rosco]

I don't need to be famous I have a sign in Snowtorn Cove :)

[Arteen]

I don't need to be famous I have a sign in Snowtorn Cove :)
You just keep telling yourself that. :p

Also, the old threads:
Want to be famous? (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=57671)
Want to be insignificantly less famous? (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=57673)

[Hotrod]

Oh, I want to be famous...lol.

[Hurrvish]

who wouldnt? i wouldnt >.> :v

[Hotrod]

I just want to be famous as in being in that "secret room" in the map. Oh and it's not really a room...

[AAA]

Same here...........cause, y'know....My name would make y'all look much better......because, well....I'm on it:D

[Rosco]

You just keep telling yourself that. :p

Also, the old threads:
Want to be famous? (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=57671)
Want to be insignificantly less famous? (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=57673)

Everyone needs the spotlight atleast once in their life Arteen :)

[n00b1n8R]

i am not cool V_V

but dano says i am cool.

SO I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR COOL LIST, IMA MAKE A NEW BETTERER LIST AND SHOW YOU ALL!!
(insecure..)

[Pred1ator]

go ahead, i think your cool too

[Masterz1337]

Keep on topic people.

[Pred1ator]

i think you guys should add soem new weapons besides the ones in the map pack and just the ma5k, that way people wont get bored with the same weapons again

[Arteen]

i think you guys should add soem new weapons besides the ones in the map pack and just the ma5k, that way people wont get bored with the same weapons again
How can people get bored of the weapons so quickly? Why would CMT weapons become boring and not stock weapons? Our weapons are designed to be different and balanced, but not gimmicky, so they should still be just fine. I doubt anyone on the team is at all interested in catering to those types of people.

[Rosco]

I was getting sorta bored because I couldn't find the best weapon for each map, but then I got the Ma5k and now I'm happy :)

[n00b1n8R]

any chance of using the homing rocket at all? if their paying attention, it's not to hard to dodge.

[offtopic]will you still be using the H2 homing rocket in vista or ditching the homing?[/ninja]

[Masterz1337]

We hate the homming rockets. It's alright in sp, since it's never used on you.

[Roostervier]

All it takes is well timed shots to kill with the RL, and it isn't hard either. And IIRC, homing rockets lock on to bipeds as well =p. I think the number of weapons is fine, maybe even just over the edge. No way in hell would I like to see any more.

[Edward Elrich]

(please delete, I didn't notice Masterz's post earlier)

[ExAm]

This downloaded fine on my PC, but came up as corrupted, same as all of my downloads, so I tried to download it on my mac, which doesn't corrupt everything it downloads, but when I click the link, the download says "downloaded: 0 bytes of ? - File doesn't exist", which hasn't happened before. Could you upload it somewhere where I can get it, or possibly contact me over AIM?

[n00b1n8R]

your interwebs suck :P
nothing else to do.

[Edward Elrich]

Shotgun bug: after it says you have 0 shots in your "clip" (when you're forced to reload due to no shells left in the gun), you can actually fire three additional shots before the game reloads/declares it dead. (There is no sound for these three shots, but they do make imprints in whatever surface you're shooting at.)

[Masterz1337]

Odd, I wil check that out tomarow. So you know, the final of this should be out toamrow, it has the backpack biped, as well as a switch in the menu that changes it from day to night.

[Elite Killa]

Oh boy! Can't wait!

Is it just me, or does the BR skin have hard-to-see colored boxes?

[DaneO'Roo]

Thats called pixelation. Thats what hi res stuff fixes.

[Pooky]

Speaking of the BR, it wouldn't hurt to make the display brighter before the final. It's really hard to read.

[Elite Killa]

Why does the BR and the MA5K have nearly the exact same animation when you take out the weapon? I'm just curious.

[Masterz1337]

You might want to say the same thing about the sniper rifle. Gradualy, all weapons that go on the back will have ready animations of the MC unslinging them.

[Arteen]

Odd, I wil check that out tomarow. So you know, the final of this should be out toamrow, it has the backpack biped, as well as a switch in the menu that changes it from day to night.
I forgot to remind you about the torches and the magical bush. Did you get those done?

[Sunray]

not a major one, but bug none the less:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1528/cmterrorac8.png

In this picture I have parked a hog on the roof of the base and am standing on the top floor. Sorry if this has aready been posted, but I couldn't find it on a quick read through

[Love De Lux]

There's nothing they can do with that. It's the halo engine. Not map related.

[Edward Elrich]

Oh well. How many people do you know (besides yourself) that park a hog on the roof of the building?

[Pooky]

Anyone who wants to be an asshole camper will park a hog up there. I say it's a useful warning system

[Sunray]

I thought that to thoroughly beta test a map, you had to try to challenge everything that could happen during that game, not just play a random game and say "wasn't that fun". I was therefore investigating the effects of different things on the map. I found that out on a LAN server with just me playing. So I would not personally do that when playing a game, but some may.

[teh lag]

^ He speaks the truth.

[ExAm]

Huzzah! I updated my NForce drivers and files download fine now!

[n00b1n8R]

not a major one, but bug none the less:
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1528/cmterrorac8.png

In this picture I have parked a hog on the roof of the base and am standing on the top floor. Sorry if this has aready been posted, but I couldn't find it on a quick read through

that's an error with the halo engine. nothing can be done.

[Pred1ator]

this has been said before noob1n8r..... no need to say again

[ExAm]

I found something in the bottom of the bottomless pit. Unfortunately, my print screen key is not functional. I've tried every tutorial on how to use it, but none of them yield results.

[Hurrvish]

i suggest you set a '-screenshot' command thing in the command line of your ce shortcut. just like how you put '-console' or '-window

[ExAm]

you can do that?

[Timo]

It dumps a huge .tga file that can't be read by alot of programs, you'll find them in Halo CE/screenshots

[I_Am_Error117]

What do you mean not working?

[Chief117]

A few bugs: the Spartan doesn't leave a black decal mark when fired on the walls inside the base. It also doesn't leave any steam or mark at all when fired on the ice in the middle of the lake. Btw in third person the Spartan Laser is held at like a 45 degree angle.

[ExAm]

What do you mean not working?I mean that the tutorial I saw on how to use it said that it copies the screenshot to your clipboard, which you can then paste into a window, but that did nothing. Also, there is no "screenshots" folder in my Halo CE folder.

[Timo]

even after adding -screenshot where -console going, and going ingame and hitting print screen?

[ExAm]

oh right, adding -screenshot...

EDIT: great. Nothing will open it right. How do I convert it to jpg or something like that? I'm surprised Windows doesn't have a more universal screen capture function. Mac has Shift+cmd+3. That takes a picture of the screen, no matter what you're running, and puts a png right on your desktop.

Now for suggestions and stuff about the map:

-The MA5K is supposed to be a stripped down version of the MA5B, not a completely new weapon with a brand new reloading scheme, if I remember correctly from the books. However, I realize it's already been modeled and put ingame, and that there's nothing that's going to be done about it. I'm just saying.

-The MA5K does not have a rotating barrel that needs to spin up. Keep the rate of fire static.

-This always bugged me: The magazine on the Spiker is nowhere near large enough to hold all of those. I suggest you update it to the drum version mounted under the receiver, as shown in Bungie's recent quicktime thing (http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/3/b/13ba0977-9968-4232-a19c-7fd285e8a97f/spikefinal.mov). It should probably have a lower ammo count for the magazine, and a wee bit more accuracy to compensate.

-Fix them sounds. I see you already have fixed the SMG's. It's so annoying when a sound carries at the same volume for great distances, don't you think?

-You might want to update the textures on the easter eggs in the pits. Just in case someone decides to go spelunking with deathless on.

[Hurrvish]

EDIT: great. Nothing will open it right. How do I convert it to jpg or something like that?

google (http://www.google.com) is your friend :)

[ExAm]

Usually I just skip that step and go right to the askin'. It's the better way to find out what's the best thing, as opposed to what all of them are. You have to admit that. Besides, trying to find something without knowing exactly what terms to search for is a bitch. Now, back to my original question.

[Hurrvish]

yea. once, for a school project, i searched google for some images for use in a portfolio. took me 2 weeks to find 3 pictures :gonk:

EDIT: heh, 2 seconds on google got me this: http://jediknight2.filefront.com/file/TGA_to_JPG_Converter;34634

[ExAm]

Now that's an unlikely website to find that on...

EDIT: Wow, that's useful.
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/9955/0screenshot00ya6.jpg

Oh, and one more gripe: The ironsights need to be the other way around. V goes in back, ^ goes in front.

Also, all the maps could use an FOV increase. It just looks better, and puts the stocks of the guns in more accurate positions relative to where the shoulder is.

[Pred1ator]

^ old...

[I_Am_Error117]

^ old...


He just got it working on his pc (hes a mac user) give him a break

[ExAm]

I didn't realize that Snow Grove was actually a remake of another map until I saw that, and it hadn't been posted in the thread, so I did.

[Pred1ator]

He just got it working on his pc (hes a mac user) give him a break

i am on a mac-user with boot camp instailed, and I knew there was a clipboard before I even tested map. so...there ya go

[Hurrvish]

if you use dev cam and go to the very top of the map, youll see 2 more boards :)

[Masterz1337]

oh right, adding -screenshot...

EDIT: great. Nothing will open it right. How do I convert it to jpg or something like that? I'm surprised Windows doesn't have a more universal screen capture function. Mac has Shift+cmd+3. That takes a picture of the screen, no matter what you're running, and puts a png right on your desktop.

Now for suggestions and stuff about the map:

-The MA5K is supposed to be a stripped down version of the MA5B, not a completely new weapon with a brand new reloading scheme, if I remember correctly from the books. However, I realize it's already been modeled and put ingame, and that there's nothing that's going to be done about it. I'm just saying.

-The MA5K does not have a rotating barrel that needs to spin up. Keep the rate of fire static.

-This always bugged me: The magazine on the Spiker is nowhere near large enough to hold all of those. I suggest you update it to the drum version mounted under the receiver, as shown in Bungie's recent quicktime thing (http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/3/b/13ba0977-9968-4232-a19c-7fd285e8a97f/spikefinal.mov). It should probably have a lower ammo count for the magazine, and a wee bit more accuracy to compensate.

-Fix them sounds. I see you already have fixed the SMG's. It's so annoying when a sound carries at the same volume for great distances, don't you think?

-You might want to update the textures on the easter eggs in the pits. Just in case someone decides to go spelunking with deathless on.
What sounds are bad? All the Ma5K stuff is creative leeway, as otherwise it would be a clone of the other guns.

[Pooky]

Um... the shield recharging sound is kind of annoying, but everything else is fine.

[Hotrod]

-The MA5K is supposed to be a stripped down version of the MA5B, not a completely new weapon with a brand new reloading scheme, if I remember correctly from the books. However, I realize it's already been modeled and put ingame, and that there's nothing that's going to be done about it. I'm just saying.

Have you looked at the book's cover? It shows what the MA5K looks like.

[Reaper Man]

Have you looked at the book's cover? It shows what the MA5K looks like.
And it's a very bland gun. Cmt needs more innovation, less imitation.

[ExAm]

What sounds are bad? All the Ma5K stuff is creative leeway, as otherwise it would be a clone of the other guns.Has anyone opened one of the other CMT maps and noticed that the volume of the SMG's firing sound stays constant over distance? You can't tell where it's coming from because it sounds like it's in your damn hands. Same with the ghost's guns, the warthog chaingun, the shotgun, and until snow grove, the frag grenade. A bunch of the sounds have no diffusion. It's like projecting a solid sphere of equally audible sound around you for a certain distance. It's like being able to hear someone whisper from across the room at the same volume that the whisperee is hearing it.

[Edward Elrich]

At least it's not as bad as some of the rc's in the map pack. You could hear the SMG clear on the other side of the map.

[Pooky]

I think he is talking about those

[ExAm]

That's exactly what I was talking about.

[Pooky]

Do you have snow grove rc1?

[ExAm]

Yes. A couple of the sounds are fixed in it, but there are still some that need some sound diffusion.

[p0lar_bear]

Sounds are still broken? Am I gonna have to rape the team here?

Can anyone tell me how gunshots are supposed to be compiled?

[teh lag]

PCM 22khz mono with xbox compression....?

[p0lar_bear]

ding ding ding

[CabooseJr]

I played it using the Xbox 360 controller, and i felt like Tourettes Guy. >_>

[AAA]

What happened to the neefler's needles? it doesn't have that electric strobey inside the needles anymore. I thought that was the coolest...brought back my love for needlers, that's what it did.

[Edward Elrich]

Check that you have textures and decals turned on. I could see the strobe thing in them.

[Pooky]

There's no strobe thing in snow grove, I would know, I'm at the highest settings Halo can handle.

[AAA]

There's no strobe thing in snow grove, I would know, I'm at the highest settings Halo can handle.

me too. (except resolution)

Will it ever come back? please don't leave this out of SPv2 :(

[Teroh]

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3386/20402452kn0.jpg
Awesome. I see me.

[ImSpartacus]

wow, is that a beta tester egg?

[AAA]

I want ma name on there >.<

Where'd you find that thing?? it's not under all that ice, is it???

[Teroh]

I want ma name on there >.<

Where'd you find that thing?? it's not under all that ice, is it???
At the top of the map. Can't see it from below.

[Pred1ator]

any new updates CMT?

[Masterz1337]

If I have time later, I might finish a script for the map, and we will beta test RC2. No point waiting for the backpack biped, might as well get the maps out.

[Hotrod]

What will the script do?

[Masterz1337]

What all scripts do.

[Hotrod]

Wow, that sounds amazing.

[Pred1ator]

scripts as in giving the bipd a backpack for weapons :-D

[Hotrod]

Or it coukd be a script that doesn't let Masterz tell us what the script does.

[Edward Elrich]

Just like Masterz said, it does what all scripts do: run the map properly and activate certain elements (like weapons, explosions, etc.) at the proper times. (yes, I know that tags are also responsible for some of these things)

[Hotrod]

Right. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

[p0lar_bear]

No point waiting for the backpack biped, might as well get the maps out.

I should slap you for that statement alone. Thoroughly beta test everything before you go LOL RELEASE.

It's not an release candidate until you think you've ironed out all of the bugs btw. Stick to naming it as a beta until you get a green light from ALL of your testers.

And have you fixed the damn sounds yet? :botman:

[Pred1ator]

polar i dissagree, their are some people that can hate this map for any slight reason, so no. CMT releases whenever they think the map is good enought to be released

[p0lar_bear]

polar i dissagree, their are some people that can hate this map for any slight reason, so no. CMT releases whenever they think the map is good enought to be released
Trust me, if someone on the team hates everything cranked out, they gtfo. A modding team consists of people who share the same interest and want to see the same final product.

Rushed, unanalyzed releases are what caused H2_Coagulation. :gonk:

[Masterz1337]

We're just cutting the backpack biped, it's not like we're "rushing to get it out"

[Hotrod]

The map not having the backpack script won't really change gameplay all that much. I'm sure that it will still be the same good quality and we will still have as much fun playing those maps.

[AAA]

4 words, 5 syllables

Keep the Backpack Mod.

I'm sure we can all find our reasons why you should keep it in your maps.

Mine is because, well, It's looks fruckin' sweet. Anyone else wanna give it a shot?

[n00b1n8R]

4 words, 5 syllables

Keep the Backpack Mod.

I'm sure we can all find our reasons why you should keep it in your maps.

Mine is because, well, It's looks fruckin' sweet. Anyone else wanna give it a shot?

LISTEN TO THIS MAN. HE KNOWS STUFF!

mine is because i like the strategy knowing what the other dude has adds to the game.

[Pooky]

I don't give a shit about the backpack, so...

[ExAm]

Rushed, unanalyzed releases are what caused H2_Coagulation. :gonk:
QFT.

That also gets me thinking of CMT_Coagulation. The map's lighting left something to be desired, and the sounds carried halfway across the map, as I've mentioned before.

(Post de-mistaked and edited for understandage :P)

[Masterz1337]

QFT. That map's lighting left something to be desired, and the sounds carried halfway across the map, as I've mentioned before.
I undeleted your post becasue I think it needs adressing.

Back in those days, we were still learning and understanding the HEK. I don't just mean CMT, I mean EVERYONE. The map while buggy and unfinished, is remarkable for its days. Few maps, other than h2ce, had custom anims like it, or netcode twisting chain spawns, or destroyable vehicles, and back then there were no scripts. There is alot of neat stuff in it, stuff I still use today and refer to. So before you complain about H2 Coag, just remember CE was a very differn't place 2 years ago.

[ExAm]

I thought he was referring to CMT coagulation, not H2_coagulation. I got them mixed up. I deleted it for a reason. But, I'll edit the post so it makes more sense. I see your point now. H2C is still a fun map. I haven't played it on this PC yet, but I played it a couple of years ago at a friend's house.

[p0lar_bear]

Well, yeah, of course masters. But this is the now.

H2 Coag was like :omfg: back then. But now it's like :gonk:. I'm putting on this attitude because now we DO know more, and we should be learning from our mistakes instead of repeating them.

[n00b1n8R]

Well, yeah, of course masters. But this is the now.

H2 Coag was like :omfg: back then. But now it's like :gonk:. I'm putting on this attitude because now we DO know more, and we should be learning from our mistakes instead of repeating them.

another person who knows their thinglings :D

i agree
ARRGS111+SHIFTYAALLL!!

[Rosco]

I undeleted your post becasue I think it needs adressing.

Back in those days, we were still learning and understanding the HEK. I don't just mean CMT, I mean EVERYONE. The map while buggy and unfinished, is remarkable for its days. Few maps, other than h2ce, had custom anims like it, or netcode twisting chain spawns, or destroyable vehicles, and back then there were no scripts. There is alot of neat stuff in it, stuff I still use today and refer to. So before you complain about H2 Coag, just remember CE was a very differn't place 2 years ago.

2 years ago it was awesome, strider had just been banned and we were progressing as a community, until something happened amongst the users.

[Edward Elrich]

Do we really still need this thread?

[Masterz1337]

No.