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RobertGraham
March 9th, 2009, 10:00 PM
I am very interested in Philosophy. I have been studying since last year.
Here is a collection of documents that kept me busy for days.
Collection of Philosophy Documents (http://eserver.org/philosophy/texts.htm)
Its really interesting to read. Lately, I have had some ideas of my own. Though, I cannot prove my theories yet because I am still learning the basics of Physics, Time, and Space.
Limited
March 9th, 2009, 10:02 PM
Every day I think why and what life is and why people do what they do.
I've never really looked into it all though.
Reaper Man
March 9th, 2009, 10:04 PM
I'm into philosophy too and have come to the conclusion that life does not require a meaning. There is no logical reason why it should require meaning. Be content and enjoy the fact that you exist.
Existentialism, heh.
RobertGraham
March 9th, 2009, 10:13 PM
I'm into philosophy too and have come to the conclusion that life does not require a meaning. There is no logical reason why it should require meaning. Be content and enjoy the fact that you exist.
Existentialism, heh.
I agree. Live life to the fullest. Still, I like to ask myself questions. :v:
:google: is my friend for those kinds of things
Reaper Man
March 9th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Google? I prefer to use my own logical reasoning and intuition and discussions with my peers. Philosophy class at school is good fun too.
ODX
March 9th, 2009, 10:36 PM
I'm interested, yes, but I'm sure I'll be confused if I were to ever take a class when I go to college. I'm starting to lean towards History actually, but thanks for the documents, will read sometime tomorrow.
Corndogman
March 9th, 2009, 11:08 PM
I spend a hell of a lot of time inside my mind, just pondering existence and human nature. I've come up with my own theories on life, creation, etc. and pretty much created my own philosophy to live my life by. I think this is an important thing to do for a person to be happy and find out who they are.
I could go on for pages about my own philosophies, but I think I'll spare you. Maybe I'll make a blog or something.
ExAm
March 9th, 2009, 11:12 PM
Oh, this is a pretty awesome subject to have conversations with people about. It's a fun subject to learn, but learn too much of it and you literally will go insane. Really. My friend is a philosophy major and he's already gone a bit mad :downs:
RobertGraham
March 9th, 2009, 11:22 PM
Oh, this is a pretty awesome subject to have conversations with people about. It's a fun subject to learn, but learn too much of it and you literally will go insane. Really. My friend is a philosophy major and he's already gone a bit mad :downs:
Trust me, just trying to understand Time and Space is making me mad.
Time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time)
Space (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space)
BTW, Wikipedia is awesome for people who want to know "the definition" of something.
Google is good for finding programs :)
ultama121
March 9th, 2009, 11:56 PM
My philosophy on this type of subject is simple enough, or so I think. ;p Question and wonder frequently, discuss and debate with others, listen to the voices around you, and just maybe you'll learn to come to peace with the many mysteries of this world. Existence does indeed have meaning, but it may not be possible for us to comprehend it. Simply live life happily, peacefully, and listen to your heart.
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mech
March 10th, 2009, 12:21 AM
The meaning of life is to take as many lives before yours is taken.
RobertGraham
March 10th, 2009, 12:26 AM
E: nvmd
Rob Oplawar
March 10th, 2009, 12:43 AM
I'm taking an intro level philosophy course this semester. I'm enjoying it much.
At first glance I seem closest to the Stoic philosophy, but I don't really know very much yet and I'm pretty sure I don't understand these competing philosophies.
In a nutshell, the universe is deterministic, and humans are part of that determinism so we do have "free will" even though if the universe were repeated from exactly the same starting point we'd all make exactly the same decisions all over again.
I like to try to think outside the box, and I've got some pretty crazy conceptions of the universe if you'd like to hear them.
A sample of the craziest idea I've got is the concept that you could construct a model of the universe without dimension and build up our perception of spatial relation on top of that. :-3
e: let's tie in this other thread, shall we?
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?p=371755#post371755
Reaper Man
March 10th, 2009, 02:20 AM
BTW, Wikipedia is awesome for people who want to know "the definition" of something.
Google is good for finding programs :)
Yeah, uh, we're not little kids in a primary school ICT class. There's no need for comments like that.
Ironic that you post that in a philosophy thread.
RecycleBin
March 11th, 2009, 07:52 PM
If anything is possible does that mean it is possible for something to be impossible?
Here is the test to find whether your mission on Earth is finished: if you're alive, it isn't.
Joshflighter
March 11th, 2009, 07:55 PM
Are we going to die at the end of 2012?
There are so many questions, its not funny.. Its better to anwser what you can, and what you can't, make something up. >:U
Thats my opinion. :)
RobertGraham
March 11th, 2009, 08:11 PM
Are we going to die at the end of 2012?
There are so many questions, its not funny.. Its better to anwser what you can, and what you can't, make something up. >:U
Thats my opinion. :)
The thing about the "WERE GONNA DIE IN 2012" thing is stupid IMO. There is no proven fact of that happening. People look at simple world events and just put them into the theory. Take Mt. StHelens for example. It exploded, which is natural since the Volcano was active and ready to blow at any minute anyways. Then comes a man who heard about something on the History channel about how the world will end, blah blah blah, and figures, OMG, THAT VOLCANO TOTALLY FITS THAT THEORY.
When they saw that the Twin Towers fell, doesn't mean they were 2 mountains. For 1, a mountain is made of rock. 2, I'm pretty sure back in those times, not many people liked living on mountains because they thought they were active volcanoes. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Heathen
March 11th, 2009, 08:15 PM
Why read into something so much?
You live and then you die. Game over. All your researching and philosophy is pointless now :/
L0d3x
March 11th, 2009, 08:18 PM
I had a rather strange night a few weeks ago, I woke up with this great idea about what the meaning of life is, and why humans seem to have more self-consciousness than a mouse for example.
I wrote down an entire page of awesome.
Rentafence
March 11th, 2009, 08:32 PM
The thing about the "WERE GONNA DIE IN 2012" thing is stupid IMO. There is no proven fact of that happening. People look at simple world events and just put them into the theory. Take Mt. StHelens for example. It exploded, which is natural since the Volcano was active and ready to blow at any minute anyways. Then comes a man who heard about something on the History channel about how the world will end, blah blah blah, and figures, OMG, THAT VOLCANO TOTALLY FITS THAT THEORY.
When they saw that the Twin Towers fell, doesn't mean they were 2 mountains. For 1, a mountain is made of rock. 2, I'm pretty sure back in those times, not many people liked living on mountains because they thought they were active volcanoes. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
What are you on about?
RobertGraham
March 11th, 2009, 08:34 PM
What are you on about?
Basically, the events that people see that are part of that theory are everyday things (Not twin towers though, that was fucked up).
btw, nice sig
n00b1n8R
March 11th, 2009, 08:52 PM
Bro's before hoes except after C.
Phopojijo
March 11th, 2009, 09:03 PM
Actually that's true... I is a bro... E is for hoes.
Syuusuke
March 11th, 2009, 09:32 PM
When you figure the meaning of life, you'll be long dead.
cheezdue
March 11th, 2009, 09:34 PM
My philosophy on life is not to die a virgin.
Rob Oplawar
March 11th, 2009, 09:36 PM
My philosophy on life is not to die a virgin.
You just lost the game.
Bodzilla
March 12th, 2009, 07:10 AM
Celibacy is not Hereditary.
Sever
March 12th, 2009, 12:00 PM
I found the meaning of life.
What? You thought I would fucking tell you it? What kind of selfish bastard are you? Go find it yourself!
Joshflighter
March 12th, 2009, 12:09 PM
That was funny.. lol.
ICEE
March 12th, 2009, 12:18 PM
The fact that fucked up creatures like us exist only proves that even god smokes pot. Life has no meaning. Why would it? I think therefore I am, and that is all the meaning I need.
TeeKup
March 12th, 2009, 03:01 PM
Life has no meaning until you find purpose in your life. Once you find your purpose you have a meaningful existence, otherwise you're just sitting and waiting for things to happen, a waste of existence.
bobbysoon
March 12th, 2009, 03:23 PM
I recommend watching 'What The Bleep Do We know?' (http://www.whatthebleep.com/). It quite nicely illustrates string theory and quantum mechanics, where science and philosophy meet
RobertGraham
March 12th, 2009, 03:54 PM
Life has no meaning until you find purpose in your life. Once you find your purpose you have a meaningful existence, otherwise you're just sitting and waiting for things to happen, a waste of existence.
As much as I love Philosophy, I have to agree with this statement.
TVTyrant
March 12th, 2009, 06:08 PM
The purpose of life is to survive for long enough to pass off your genetics. We just fucked it up when we developed thumbs and brains.
Damn you evolution, I want to be a bear >:U
teh lag
March 12th, 2009, 06:28 PM
What life really means? That's too vague of a question to have an answer in terms that we're apt to be able to accept.
Referring to our lives individually? There is no great universal purpose as far as I can see. We're here. We don't know why we're here, and to be honest there probably isn't a why. I find it fascinating how everything we see seems to require a solid explanation... it's very hard for people to accept the cold reality (in my opinion) of chance. I don't believe we were put here to do anything - we just are and we may as well make the best of it.
Referring to our duties to our community/society? We have a responsibility to insure the safety can well-being of those around us, as that in turn will insure our own safety and happiness. In a lawless and absolutely unregulated society there is nothing but random chaos. I believe that "morals" exist to preserve the structure of society and the collective well-being of the people that have adopted them. I do not believe in morality from a higher power - it is simply whatever makes sure that as many people as possible (not just a majority) are able to live good lives without fear of interference from others. Said interference can range from the direct (murder) to indirect (a lazy farmer in a small village causing everyone to have less food).
Referring to whatever instincts have developed in us? Life is just a self-replicating set of chemical structures and reactions, and whatever preserves that cycle as a whole is the "meaning" of life. That can be anything from self-preservation to reproduction to serving the community to protecting a shared environment. Does evolution mean that we have a responsibility to make ourselves as close to a perfect lifeform as we can? Or produce another species that is? I don't know, but it's certainly an interesting thought.
Referring to existence itself? Much like our individual lives, there is no real meaning behind it the way I see things. It just is. As Rob posted a few days ago, I think it would be quite literally impossible to know everything, as "everything" is every state of everything in the universe, which could not be replicated inside said universe without some way of duplicating everything inside it. We should be content to find out what we can and accept that there are things we will never know. It is also important to accept that eventually, life will end - either as the universe collapses on itself or as it stretches out to infinity and "freezes" as the average matter/energy density goes down with increasing volume... but that leads into another topic that's for another thread. To be honest, the prospect of human life continuing on to infinity is quite a frightening one; the sheer amount of pain and suffering that has occurred across our relatively short period of existence going on forever is disconcerting to me.
As Teek said, the best we can hope for is to find our own purpose within the segment of the universe we can observe and go with it.
RobertGraham
March 12th, 2009, 06:45 PM
We have many good points here!
Everyone knows the the answer to life is "42".
I guess there are some things we shouldn't know. Kind of like "Why we shouldn't cure cancer". That movie "I am Legend" made me think twice about it.
ExAm
March 12th, 2009, 08:17 PM
We have many good points here!
Everyone knows the the answer to life is "42".
I guess there are some things we shouldn't know. Kind of like "Why we shouldn't cure cancer". That movie "I am Legend" made me think twice about it.
No, that's the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe and everything. Not the answer to life, the universe and everything.
Sever
March 12th, 2009, 08:31 PM
They lied to you. It isn't 42, it's 43.
Fuckin' folding chairs in the hallway...
teh lag
March 12th, 2009, 08:34 PM
You know, I'd really like it if there could be just one discussion about the "meaning of life" or the nature of the universe without someone referencing that damn book. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hitchhiker%27s_Guide_to_the_Galaxy_(book)) I mean, it's only been done in just about every other one we've had...
Just a thought.
E : link'd.
mech
March 12th, 2009, 09:42 PM
What book, am I missing something here?
RecycleBin
March 12th, 2009, 09:43 PM
Teh biblez? is that what book you are talking about?
TVTyrant
March 12th, 2009, 09:48 PM
:facepalm: Hes talking about the Hitchhiker's guiide to the galaxy guys, come on. Read more bad fiction :p
RobertGraham
March 12th, 2009, 10:11 PM
:facepalm: Hes talking about the Hitchhiker's guiide to the galaxy guys, come on. Read more bad fiction :p
Or you could just watch the movie and skip everyones stupid thoughts, LOL
The first 5 pages of that book were ridiculously pointless.
Anyways, here is something to spark a fuse in your mind.
Does life recycle itself?
I mean, why not? When something dies, it just turns into Energy pretty much, wasted, but it will never dissapear. We use the Energy for Plants, Animals, etc.
Ex.
Animal Dies > Dead Corpse fertilizes the soil > Plant Grows > Animal Eats > Repeat
itszutak
March 12th, 2009, 10:29 PM
Or you could just watch the movie and skip everyones stupid thoughts, LOL
The first 5 pages of that book were ridiculously pointless.
Out. Now.
Rob Oplawar
March 12th, 2009, 10:29 PM
The first 5 pages of that book were ridiculously pointless.
How dare you insult that most worshiped of nerd books!
In all seriousness, Hitchiker's Guide is brilliant precisely because the term "in all seriousness" could never possibly apply to it.
Cojafoji
March 13th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Hitchhiker series was an excellent contribution to the arts, and geekdom in general :D
But to delve back to the topic on hand, I might suggest, and I hate to be one of the people to say this, try having these conversations with friends, whilst indulging in LSD. I know people will say 'it's just a drug man, making you think that you understand things', but I've found it to be quite useful in late night discussions on aimless summer nights. Also, a good few movies to watch after the conversation has abated would be American Beauty, A Scanner Darkly (More towards the comedic aspect, but still messages there) and a couple others that I can't remember (I'm at work right now) but will post later.
nooBBooze
March 13th, 2009, 05:57 PM
I know people will say 'it's just a drug man, making you think that you understand things', but I've found it to be quite useful in late night discussions on aimless summer nights.
Incoming wall of text:
Seriously I think that's the bottomline of philosophy. In the end it's just a game that is played with the mind/language, a simple passtime born from idle social interaction. Wheter we play it like we're used to since 50000 years ago by simply convening and spending some time with eachother or via this quite recent invention that is in between the communicating parties [therefore the name] -the media-, winner is who sucsessfuly caused the other participants to establish, reaffirm or even improve a positive image of oneself. Ignoring the set rules are defined by the mandatory general boundaries of social interaction and its local variations. Much like musical tastes, the sessions of this game are very regional and personal thus rendering them diverse and interesting. But beneath the appearant diversity of each genre one must find that they are all within the boundaries of acoustic [range audible to man] and harmonic [some say derived from biology->heartbeat] principles that makes us like "music". Therefore although each song might appear different, it is based on variations of the same.
I would say that philosophy is as vain and ultimately irrelevant and yet potentially beautiful as the music in a jam-session with some friends. Back in the days I used to think there really is something to be found in those high-brow books or lectures, something that has an innate value on its own, something that is its own justification, a truth on its own even if it was just a microscopic kernel of truth. Back then, i thought I really thought I was looking for truth and it was just after someone specifically told me that I really was looking for God this entire time. Although that quote really took some time to seep through my consciousness -after all, how could I, self-proclaimed agnostic sceptic genuinely interested but of course a complete layman in politics and science, immersed in the literature by the big names unkowingly look for "god"? It's really just now that I realize it really doesn't matter if or how a widely published person was right [or even righter] on something, apart from the fact that we very rarely [or even never] chose to believe what we think to be true but instead believe whats more convenient for us, the fact remains that the humanities or the sciences of the mind are, as opposed to the "exact sciences" structured in a non-hierarchical way. While the latter applie a traditional, dogmatic approach to the interpretation of information, the information in philosophy/psychology/arts can only be interpreted. The interpretations in turn are also subject to interpretation and so on.
In other words philosophy is utter anarchy with no fixed points i.e. truths whatsoever and the sole organizing factor is the subject. In the end it doesn't really matter who orally produced what noises and/or abstracted them to paper, life luckily doesnt revolve around what others think to be ultimate ideas although they can be fun to be weighed against each other. Like in all things, when we obsessively focus on something, when we start taking it way too serious, there is always the danger of getting sucked into it to the point where it is counterproductive.
In other things, this results in addiction or otherwise compulsive behaviour. I would say in philosophy, it is various degrees of insanity.
Take what you like, discard the rest. Thats how I confront philosophy now.
Being into "finding out what life really means" is one thing, I found that studying philosophy is another.
My patiente for foreign languages is as exhausted as I am myself so i hope that was halfway coherent.
SnaFuBAR
March 13th, 2009, 07:53 PM
Left - Cya, Got a life
guess he found the meaning of life :smug:
ExAm
March 13th, 2009, 09:50 PM
I'm guessing I missed the drama thread in which he left? :v:
TeeKup
March 13th, 2009, 09:55 PM
How man times in a day do any of you just stop and look at your self, look at who and what you are and ask why you're here?
If you do then you have no purpose (as I said before).
You have a sense of meaning when you have a purpose. be it your purpose is a parent, a friend, or just someone to love and be loved. You have meaning then.
The meaning of life is to form or create your own purpose to expand and grow our existence as a species. God may have created us, but as I see it he stopped intervening a while ago to see what we can do. We can no longer rely on him, only ourselves.
At least that's how I see it.
Cojafoji
March 15th, 2009, 01:32 AM
In other words philosophy is utter anarchy with no fixed points i.e. truths whatsoever and the sole organizing factor is the subject. In the end it doesn't really matter who orally produced what noises and/or abstracted them to paper, life luckily doesnt revolve around what others think to be ultimate ideas although they can be fun to be weighed against each other. Like in all things, when we obsessively focus on something, when we start taking it way too serious, there is always the danger of getting sucked into it to the point where it is counterproductive.
But this is the beauty of it. The seemingly endless exploration of causes, reactions and by products. To examine a topic totally is impossible, but striving to do so... That's philosophy. Trying to understand a subject so well that it becomes a part of you.
At least, in my opinion anyway. I enjoyed your wall noobbooze.
DaneO'Roo
March 15th, 2009, 07:57 AM
Noam Chomsky (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noam_Chomsky), Terrence McKenna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna), Alex Grey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_Grey)
Here's my own personal belief, as whimsy as it is, I hold solace in believing it, so fuck it off as you may, I believe in it.
This is my planet. When I sleep, I am someone else, somewhere else. When they sleep, they are another person. When A person stares at me, regardless of distance, I know and feel their presence and look to catch their gaze. They are the same as me, and I am the same as them. Every new face is simply another piece of our one massive puzzle.
When I connect with someone on a close level, I establish an unseen mental link to them. I think the same, I say the same words out loud before they have the chance to say them.
When I have a strange dream, a dream that doesn't make sense, full of faces and unknown places and events, I know deep down, that what I am witnessing is not my bodies personal adventures, but the adventure of my minds wavelength as it explores the channel of sleep. At the same time however, I feel that it is me, while knowing it isnt, because the memories are not of my own, but the person witnessing them is me, and I am them. We are separate, but the same.
I believe everyone communicates to like minded people through sleep, and they so see our memories as we see theirs. However, we never ever remember.
We just are, and it is perfect.
Many have fallen out of the loop. Forgotten what people are capable of. For thousands of years, society is tricked into thinking it is progressing on an evolutionary path.
"Evolution" is simply human beings remembering that which they had forgotten. Knowledge is something we have gained, intelligence and understanding is what is missing.
We all lost it, but it is still here, it lies dormant in our dna, in our braincells. It's always been there. Children have it, infants have it, and animals have it.
The unseen mental wavelength that connects things. Trees talk to each other, animals talk to each other through a form of mental unseen expression, telepathy so to speak.
A new born sees, and knows. They stare at a blank wall, pointing as if seeing something no one else can. They stare at a person, fixated like they understand them. They can see things that we lost. The child then loses these things when it is educated to speak with it's mouth, and not with its mind.
Language has de-evolved society, and will continue to divide us and provide us with the illusion that something is different in all of us.
The constant questioning, the constant asking and seeking for higher order. We know deep down that something is missing from us.
Learn to speak with your mind and not with your mouth.
Con
March 15th, 2009, 01:59 PM
The meaning of life doesn't really hold any value for me. It implies we have some sort of higher purpose to fulfill, which is too religious for me. I just think we're here and that's that, we're not supposed to do anything about it. We just live our lives and have kids, because that's what we've evolved to want (life wouldn't be here if we didn't), and civilization hasn't really changed that. Otherwise, we can just talk about goals in life to be happy.
Mass
March 15th, 2009, 02:11 PM
I just think we're here to enjoy our lives, and to help other people enjoy theirs.
After all, what is good if not happiness?
anonymous1337
March 15th, 2009, 03:06 PM
Life in a nut shell!
Sperm fertilizes egg
you develop for 9 months
you come out of your moms vagina
do some shit (maybe go to school have some fun ect.) grow up and get a job
have sex
retire from your job
die
Rob Oplawar
March 15th, 2009, 05:40 PM
Lol, Dane, you're such an "artist." I'm too much of an "engineer" to buy into any of that crazy whimsical talk. :)
RobertGraham
March 15th, 2009, 06:05 PM
I found the Answer to life.
Live it.
Syuusuke
March 15th, 2009, 06:45 PM
That's not really the answer, that's what to do with it.
Joshflighter
March 15th, 2009, 06:58 PM
I just think we're here to enjoy our lives, and to help other people enjoy theirs.
After all, what is good if not happiness?
Best answer around. :rolleyes:
Bodzilla
March 16th, 2009, 04:32 AM
for someone so against Religion dane you sure do take on alot of religious mannerisms when evaluating things.
sorry man but it's absurd to believe in anything without proof because you "feel" or "think" that it's right.
such as there must have been a race of intelligent people because of how long the earths timeline is and they must have existed on super continents like Pangea before becomign extinct, despite there being no evidence to support this.
"i dont think that we can be the first, because we just cant."
:/
still your weirdest thing for me man.
after all these years i still aint worked out that shit.
t3h m00kz
March 16th, 2009, 05:57 AM
The meaning of life is enjoying the fuck out of a $30 steak dinner.
FUCK that was the most beast steak I've ever eaten.
RobertGraham
March 16th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Does life recycle itself?
I mean, why not? When something dies, it just turns into Energy pretty much, wasted, but it will never dissapear. We use the Energy for Plants, Animals, etc.
Ex.
Animal Dies > Dead Corpse fertilizes the soil > Plant Grows > Animal Eats > Repeat
Could we please get back to the war on Philosophism?
So what do you think? I mean, its pretty logical in a sense
DaneO'Roo
March 16th, 2009, 08:00 AM
@ Bodie:
I don't worship the fact. I hold solace in the idea that I can freeform my own opinion on my own nature and my stance within it and I feel related.
You on the other hand don't seem to understand. What your promoting is the very kind of linear thinking that religious zealots praise.
Religion has it's purposes for philosophy.
I hate religion for it's actual standard reasons. The fact that it's used to control the masses and worship a false deity. It has it's purposes if it was used properly as a form of understanding thinking and not thinking about understanding some greater form above the ground.
I don't worship anything other than my minds creativity. You don't need proof to have importance in the smallest of things. Often the things that don't make sense are the things that are most interesting to me.
If everyone thought like you bodie, no decent music or art would ever be made. I find it ironic that you then so suggest that you are a musician, when you have such close minded thoughts about spirituality. This is probably why all your lyrics seemed so pattern based, too structural, because I guess that's just who you are. You like order and structure, you like things to work just as they are.
But that's not me, and calling me absurd for thinking my own thing and keeping to myself about it and feeling good about it is a complete 180 on everything you have said many times to me that you believe in.
I believe my mind is like a snail, and in sleep I find another shell, leaving trails behind and shining paths. I feel it and I know it, and I have thought long and hard about myself. Maybe It's my lust for experiencing the outer, maybe I am holding false beliefs, but you know what, when I see golden towers and faces and places I don't remember, I feel as though I'm in a place not of my own. I know now that there is something missing from me, and I feel it, I really do. I have no holes to fill, but I know there is something that isn't quite right.
But my feelings make me feel right. I've never been more collected in my entire life.
Rosco
March 16th, 2009, 05:52 PM
My philosophy on this type of subject is simple enough, or so I think. ;p Question and wonder frequently, discuss and debate with others, listen to the voices around you, and just maybe you'll learn to come to peace with the many mysteries of this world. Existence does indeed have meaning, but it may not be possible for us to comprehend it. Simply live life happily, peacefully, and listen to your heart.
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I agree, but if anyone ever takes listen to your heart a bit too literally, that's a tad retarded.
I wonder a lot about the meaning, but I don't feel as though researching is worth it. It's not something I want to find out, because I think that it's worth more to yourself to live life the way you want to, instead of wondering why others may have been put on the earth. There's no such thing as a mediocre life in my opinion, because if people have chosen to live life in this way, it's not them saying right, going to give to society, eat sleep and then die. It's them making the choice of what they want to do. this thread is awesome
RobertGraham
March 16th, 2009, 09:02 PM
Again, please stay on topic. This has nothing to do with Religion. If you want to complain about it, please use the Visitor Messages or PM's
Does life recycle itself?
I mean, why not? When something dies, it just turns into Energy pretty much, wasted, but it will never dissapear. We use the Energy for Plants, Animals, etc.
Ex.
Animal Dies > Dead Corpse fertilizes the soil > Plant Grows > Animal Eats > Repeat
^This
Bodzilla
March 16th, 2009, 09:35 PM
@ Bodie:
I don't worship the fact. I hold solace in the idea that I can freeform my own opinion on my own nature and my stance within it and I feel related.
lets just say this was the only thing you wrote.
you cant honestly see theres a problem with this type of thinking?
Mr Buckshot
March 16th, 2009, 09:52 PM
Here's what life means to me:
Just find an honest career, earn money, take care of necessities like food and housing, entertain myself when time and savings allow for it. Nice and simple.
I just think we're here to enjoy our lives, and to help other people enjoy theirs.
After all, what is good if not happiness?
Precisely. I get philosophical discussions about life too many times in ToK class, can't stand them, that class is my most hated subject after English.
Warsaw
March 16th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Precisely. I get philosophical discussions about life too many times in ToK class, can't stand them, that class is my most hated subject after English.
This. I have to deal with the same thing. IB FTL. :gonk: I don't mind philosophy so much as all the asshats in class who take everything you say as a personal attack no matter how you word it.
English class is just useless.
What do I think life means? I think life is part of the universe figuring itself out, because life (and sentience) is as much of a puzzle as the universe. If you figure out one, you figure out the other; one cannot be solved independently of the other.
DaneO'Roo
March 16th, 2009, 10:12 PM
lets just say this was the only thing you wrote.
you cant honestly see theres a problem with this type of thinking?
You have the nerve to say that?
Discredit the rest of my fucking post, just because?
Your displaying the true nature of our system, right here.
I think it is YOUR way of thinking that made you type that post that needs to be addressed.
Mr Buckshot
March 16th, 2009, 10:14 PM
English class is just useless.
a bit off topic here, but yeah English class is pretty much the only aspect of my life that I question. Why be forced to read and re-read classic works and analyze and write essays and so on? From a pragmatic point of view, the usefulness of this field is really quite limited. This goes for all first-language classes btw, not just English. French classes in France, Korean classes in Korea, Russian classes in Russia, etc, all function the same as our English classes on this continent, just in different languages.
Life is just...something to live to the fullest. Do the best you can to your ability. Just be happy.
Oh yeah, while we're on the discussion of life, read this short story called "The Lottery Ticket" by Anton Chekov. It probes into the mind of an upper-middle-class man who seems content with his lot...really? Interesting stuff about the "meaning of life."
Warsaw
March 16th, 2009, 10:16 PM
English class is a way for excessively liberal buffoons with degrees in Bullshit to make more money than they deserve.
Also, about the story, I've read it. Ending was :gonk:.
"STONE HER! KEKEKEKEKE!"
Choking Victim
March 16th, 2009, 10:18 PM
English class is a way for excessively liberal buffoons with degrees in Bullshit to make more money than they deserve.
Also, about the story, I've read it. Ending was :gonk:.
"STONE HER! KEKEKEKEKE!"
Your thinking of "The Lottery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lottery)" by Shirley Jackson.
Mr Buckshot
March 16th, 2009, 10:19 PM
English class is a way for excessively liberal buffoons with degrees in Bullshit to make more money than they deserve.
Also, about the story, I've read it. Ending was :gonk:.
"STONE HER! KEKEKEKEKE!"
wrong story, I meant the one by Anton Chekov :P
But the one you spoke of is pretty interesting too, it is in line with all that "life is absurd" existentialist philosophy.
Warsaw
March 16th, 2009, 10:20 PM
Ah, my bad. Description seemed to match...and the idea of seeming contentment is similar too. :saddowns:
ultama121
March 16th, 2009, 10:32 PM
I agree, but if anyone ever takes listen to your heart a bit too literally, that's a tad retarded.
That phrase is extremely interpretable, so yeah.
RobertGraham
March 16th, 2009, 10:33 PM
I found another way.
Go outside.
You will look at life in a whole new way.
Cortexian
March 17th, 2009, 01:03 AM
I found another way.
Go outside.
You will look at life in a whole new way.
You went outside and you suddenly think that you look at life in a whole new way? Wow, you're even more of a screwed up kid than I thought you were after you "quit Modacity to get a life". Hell, you didn't even last a week away from Modacity, try getting a full time job or something, then you can post here again.
DaneO'Roo
March 17th, 2009, 01:58 AM
So whats it like being the flavour of the month Robert? Couldn't help notice that people seem to disagree with you even before you post, I haven't been around much these days, so I'm just wondering quitely if your the current shark meat, so you know, I can biasedly harrass you as well.
Mr Buckshot
March 17th, 2009, 02:37 AM
Guys, I'm not trying to stick up for robertgraham or anything, but openly antagonizing him like this doesn't help matters. You gain nothing out of it. If you really must flame him, use the PMs, modacity-equivalent-of-facebook-wall, or rep feature. There's recently been a discussion about this sort of behavior y'know.
Nothing wrong with this thread...so keep it clean. Yes, this guy posts a lot of rubbish here but this one is ok.
Bodzilla
March 17th, 2009, 02:57 AM
it's not that he has an opinion buckshot but it's the way it's presented and his current circumstances in the community. His posts give then impression that he's an arrogant know it all dick who wants to rub our face in it.
is not something thats ever going to be taken seriously or politely.
we all know he was making a jab at us saying we dont go outside or whatever.
It's this elitist shit no one likes, something you still havnt figured out which is why your posts and threads are either hits and misses.
Reaper Man
March 17th, 2009, 05:31 AM
I found another way.
Go outside.
You will look at life in a whole new way.
Oh, how clever of you. A great subliminal message right there. I'm a photographer. I spend most of my time outdoors. I look at life and record it; it's what I do, for a living, for fun and self expression.
Rosco
March 17th, 2009, 11:34 AM
That phrase is extremely interpretable, so yeah.
(BTW)
Didn't mean your post was retarded, the idea of someone thinking my life is about beating is retarded, just incase you're like " da fuck he playin at :confused2: "
:p
I found another way.
Go outside.
You will look at life in a whole new way.
Yes, it's pretty obvious it was you who found this way, because you're the idiot that thinks stepping foot outside your house gives you all the answers to life, as well as a social life.
ultama121
March 17th, 2009, 12:18 PM
Nah, we koo bra. :snafubar:
Terry
March 17th, 2009, 07:32 PM
Over time I just personally decided that it really has no inherent meaning, and that I'll just have to make of it what you can and enjoy it however possible.
Its probably a bad thing, but I sometimes look at the things I do, or what others do... and I'm like "Why the hell are we doing this? Its just a meaningless waste of time when we could be enjoying ourselves or doing something productive".
I like to work with what is tangible, which is why I left religious ideas a long time ago as well. It just doesn't work with me.
Warsaw
March 17th, 2009, 07:44 PM
Word up, bru, word up. I don't like "ideals," I prefer having a definite product.
DaneO'Roo
March 18th, 2009, 04:11 AM
we all know he was making a jab at us saying we dont go outside or whatever.
Ah, the "lets assume he said this because were are actually looking for things to hate" game.
I like that one.
I like it when people assume information, and deny real information, and then rous on people for spearheading things, things much more plausible and in fact actually correct based on evidence that is actually provided and more justified than the assumptions they themselves just made. That's a crackup.
Cmon, we all know he's the new troll meat.
Bodzilla
March 18th, 2009, 04:15 AM
your being delusional again. snap the fuck out of it.
because if you havnt realized the irony of your situation now then you need to start talking to people.
and evidence heh. you mean like that our minds are like a snail that migrates to other shells of people in our dreams and peoples consciousness?
What about that our souls are actually the remnants of a society of aliens that where kidnapped brainwashed and burned in volcanoes on the earth before inhabiting the bodys of the only sentient mammal available to them thus they had a consciousness that had fear and confusion.
Make up shit eh.
what about the earth having sentient beings before humans that existed on super continents before pangea, even though thats impossible. because the earth as of then didnt even have a fucking ozone layer therefore making it impossible to sustain life above the surface because there was no protection from the sun :downs:
but hey i'm the crazy one right. BUT I KNOW
I JUST DO Alright!
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