View Full Version : So I Heard North Korea Launched a Missile
English Mobster
April 5th, 2009, 12:15 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/as_nkorea_missile
SEOUL, South Korea – North Korea defiantly carried out a provocative rocket launch Sunday that the U.S., Japan and other nations suspect was a cover for a test of its long-range missile technology.
Liftoff took place at 11:30 a.m. (0230GMT) Sunday from the coastal Musudan-ri launch pad in northeastern North Korea, the South Korean and U.S. governments said.
Japan immediately called for an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council.
The multistage rocket flew over Japan and landed in the Pacific Ocean, the Japanese broadcaster NHK said, citing its government.
"Our primary concern is to confirm safety and gather information," Japanese Prime Minister Taro Aso told a news conference at his Tokyo office Sunday.
The launch was a bold act of defiance against Aso, President Barack Obama, Hu Jintao of China and other leaders who pressed Pyongyang in the days leading up to liftoff to call off a launch they said would threaten peace and stability in Northeast Asia.
The U.S., South Korea, Japan and others suspect the launch is a guise for testing the regime's long-range missile technology — one step toward eventually mounting a nuclear weapon on a missile capable of reaching Alaska and beyond.
They earlier vowed to take North Korea to the U.N. Security Council for a launch they said violates a 2006 resolution barring the regime from ballistic missile activity.
South Korea's presidential Blue House called the launch a "reckless" move that poses a "serious threat" to stability on the Korean peninsula.
"We cannot contain our disappointment and regret over North Korea's reckless act," presidential spokesman Lee Dong-kwan told reporters Sunday. He said the launch of the long-range rocket "poses a serious threat to security on the Korean peninsula and the world."
Obama said Friday the launch would be "provocative" and said the U.S. would "take appropriate steps to let North Korea know that it can't threaten the safety and security of other countries with impunity."
The launch "will prompt the United States to take appropriate steps to let North Korea know that it cannot threaten the safety and security of other countries with impunity," State Department spokesman Fred Lash said in Washington.
Security Council diplomats said Friday that a draft resolution in circulation could reaffirm and tighten enforcement of the demands and sanctions of a resolution passed after North Korea conducted a nuclear test on 2006.
Video:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/04/north.korea.rocket/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
Xetsuei
April 5th, 2009, 12:18 AM
They're pretty damn stupid.
RobertGraham
April 5th, 2009, 12:19 AM
Didn't we kick their ass once already?
Chainsy
April 5th, 2009, 12:20 AM
Didn't we kick their ass once already?
Wow.....
Dr Pepper
April 5th, 2009, 12:20 AM
yeah, we did, they already say their ready for another war with south korea
Trinx
April 5th, 2009, 12:22 AM
North Korea defiantly . . .
pointin at the haters in GANGSTERLY DEFIANCE
Mr Buckshot
April 5th, 2009, 12:24 AM
Didn't we kick their ass once already?
If that were true, then Seoul would control the entire Korean peninsula and there would just be one Korea. Check your facts. Yes, there was a war where the Americans intervened, but the Americans only succeeded up to the 38th parallel. They tried to invade beyond the 38th parallel, but were pushed back. Having more guns and more technology doesn't mean victory, you know. Douglas MacArthur did want to keep fighting and basically wipe out the communists and give the south full control of Korea, but Truman sacked him.
So yes, you did give the North Koreans a beating once, but you never won. The only success was containment.
Huh, North Korea is just begging for retaliation. Ironically, they call themselves the Democratic People's Republic of Korea...
n00b1n8R
April 5th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Fucking reds! :eaglescream:
Rentafence
April 5th, 2009, 12:46 AM
Didn't we kick their ass once already?
We're still at war with them technically. We've been at a cease fire since 1953.
flibitijibibo
April 5th, 2009, 12:50 AM
Hm, a "rocket launch" test that ended in the Pacific Ocean. Toward the US. Without any clear involvement from some kind of space program (or hell, even a branch of the government that would run a space program). Great cover-up. Maybe Bin Laden is impossible to find because he has his hands over his eyes while saying "I'm invisible!"
FreedomFighter7
April 5th, 2009, 01:00 AM
Scary. I wonder what would happen if they bombed a US city with a nuke.
RobertGraham
April 5th, 2009, 01:01 AM
Scary. I wonder what would happen if they bombed a US city with a nuke.
I wonder if you are a North Korean communist
FreedomFighter7
April 5th, 2009, 01:12 AM
lol
DEElekgolo
April 5th, 2009, 01:20 AM
In b4 ww3.
Cortexian
April 5th, 2009, 01:25 AM
Scary. I wonder what would happen if they bombed a US city with a nuke.
A single rocket delivered warhead? Nothing because it would be intercepted and destroyed in flight by all chances.
Mr Buckshot
April 5th, 2009, 01:29 AM
I actually doubt they'd dare to launch a real nuclear attack on the states. The NK government may oppress its people but it's unlikely that Kim Jong Il would want to see his palace flattened by counter-attacks...well it's not that simple in reality but you get my point, the North Koreans probably aren't too keen on being invaded.
itszutak
April 5th, 2009, 02:22 AM
Didn't we kick their ass once already?
Nope.
In fact, they beat us. Our goal was to bring South and North Korea together as a non-communist country-- we managed to get near our border, and then they gathered together with China and beat us back to the southern tip of Korea. It was only after a lot of messy fighting that we even got back to where we were before the war started, and only then did we call it even. First major setback to the US army since...well, ever. And it set up how most of the US's wars would go since then. The war's not actually over-- there's just a decades- long ceasefire. We're technically at war with them still.
:eng101:
CN3089
April 5th, 2009, 02:49 AM
Didn't the entire United Nations minus the Eastern Bloc and the PRC push them back to the 38th parallel at tremendous cost once already?
hey, sup, fixed your post
SnaFuBAR
April 5th, 2009, 03:16 AM
N.K. got fucking stomped. The PRC got angsty and crossed the Yalu and pushed back the coalition to the 38th parallel.
CN3089
April 5th, 2009, 03:46 AM
N.K. got fucking stomped. The PRC got angsty and crossed the Yalu and pushed back the coalition to the 38th parallel.
should've nuked them while we could http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-clint.gif
Cojafoji
April 5th, 2009, 03:48 AM
shouldn't of stopped MacArthur... fuck the un, and fuck truman. we had an opportunity there...
itszutak
April 5th, 2009, 05:07 AM
shouldn't of stopped MacArthur... fuck the un, and fuck truman. we had an opportunity there...
I disagree. MacArthur was an idiot for moving so close to China-- he knew they were a threat, and knew that if he got too close there'd be a counterattack. But he went through it, and lost Korea for us. As a demonstration of the US's future plans, he laid a future of defeat at high cost for us.
China was already in korea. If he'd continued attacking, it might have escalated to a china-US conflict. And even then, that'd be bad.
should've nuked them while we could http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-clint.gif
I believe this is exactly what MaArthur wanted :v:
In fact, I'm pretty sure his insistence on nuking Korea is what got him removed. Not to mention his blatant failure to follow Truman's orders (IE, not crossing that river)
DarkHalo003
April 5th, 2009, 09:23 AM
Wait, why are we effected by this? This what, the 5th time they've tried to "bomb" us in the past decade? Well, I suppose this is what happens when their militia and population is made of zombies (crude joke).
Sel
April 5th, 2009, 09:44 AM
lol
movin to the arctic bros see ya laterz
teh lag
April 5th, 2009, 10:35 AM
Fixed the title for you. The article mentioned nothing about the missile being aimed specifically at the U.S. All they did was test-fire a missile - still a moderately big deal, but not as big as if it was AT the U.S.
Jean-Luc
April 5th, 2009, 12:04 PM
Fixed the title for you. The article mentioned nothing about the missile being aimed specifically at the U.S. All they did was test-fire a missile - still a moderately big deal, but not as big as if it was AT the U.S.
Evidently The Dark Side subscribes to the "Fox News School of Headline Creation." :cool:
Mr Buckshot
April 5th, 2009, 04:35 PM
shouldn't of stopped MacArthur... fuck the un, and fuck truman. we had an opportunity there...
MacArthur played god so much in Japan that he thought it was his god given right to handle military operations as he pleased. He deserved to be sacked.
yeah teh lag is right.
FreedomFighter7
April 5th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Originally Posted by FreedomFighter7 http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/modacity/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?p=382694#post382694)
Scary. I wonder what would happen if they bombed a US city with a nuke.
I wonder if you are a North Korean communist
Lol, I didn't realize how bad that sounded. What I meant was, what would the US do if NK nuked one of our cities. Go to war? Duh, nuke it back? I'm not sure.
CN3089
April 5th, 2009, 07:08 PM
Lol, I didn't realize how bad that sounded. What I meant was, what would the US do if NK nuked one of our cities. Go to war? Duh, nuke it back? I'm not sure.
It would counterattack, obviously. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_strike) But North Korea is a long way off from that kind of capability, anyway.
RobertGraham
April 5th, 2009, 07:28 PM
Shit, most of the people there are still living in Bamboo huts :|
Mr Buckshot
April 5th, 2009, 07:41 PM
Shit, most of the people there are still living in Bamboo huts :|
http://iamwords.iamramen.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/facepalm21.jpg
While they're certainly destitute and oppressed (it's full-on Stalin-esque communism, after all), they're not that backwards.
FreedomFighter7
April 5th, 2009, 08:17 PM
I don't think we would nuke them back, odds are even if they had nukes they might have less than a handful. The only people that would die in the attack would be innocent civilians, as I bet the regimes command posts would be bunkered and underground.
I also wonder what the rest of the world would think about such a retaliatory strike.
Limited
April 5th, 2009, 08:22 PM
If any country nuked US, they would definitely nuke back lol...
Pretty shocking stuff, them testing long range weapons is never a good sign.
Disaster
April 5th, 2009, 08:25 PM
Yeah. Why the hell would they need long range weapons like this unless they had intentions of an attack or defense against an attack which is never a good sign.
CN3089
April 5th, 2009, 08:42 PM
I don't think we would nuke them back, odds are even if they had nukes they might have less than a handful. The only people that would die in the attack would be innocent civilians, as I bet the regimes command posts would be bunkered and underground.
I also wonder what the rest of the world would think about such a retaliatory strike.
Of course they would nuke back, that's pretty much the entire point of the US nuclear arsenal http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-psyduck.gif
Mass
April 5th, 2009, 08:54 PM
While they're certainly destitute and oppressed (it's full-on Stalin-esque communism, after all), they're not that backwards.
Unless you count the hundreds of thousands of people in work-camps, who live in tents (presumably.)
huts? No. But they only have one real modern city.
Also, what the fuck? Second strike is automatic, WWI style.
legionaire45
April 5th, 2009, 08:55 PM
Yeah. Why the hell would they need long range weapons like this unless they had intentions of an attack or defense against an attack which is never a good sign.
North Korea is simply trying to be uncooperative with other countries in whatever way they can. Kim Jong Il is an insane distactor; he lets the people of his country starve whilst simultaneously pumping almost all of his country's GDP into the military and into his own personal lifestyle. He's trying to put pressure on the US, South Korea, Japan and China so that they will loosen up on sanctions and allow the country to bring in more money; more likely then not, this would go straight to their military and not to their people. Trying to threaten the US and China is suicide, but this guy is fucking insane, so he does it anyway.
PS. Lol. (http://www.korea-dpr.com/)
Mr Buckshot
April 5th, 2009, 09:18 PM
North Korea is simply trying to be uncooperative with other countries in whatever way they can. Kim Jong Il is an insane distactor; he lets the people of his country starve whilst simultaneously pumping almost all of his country's GDP into the military and into his own personal lifestyle. He's trying to put pressure on the US, South Korea, Japan and China so that they will loosen up on sanctions and allow the country to bring in more money; more likely then not, this would go straight to their military and not to their people. Trying to threaten the US and China is suicide, but this guy is fucking insane, so he does it anyway.
PS. Lol. (http://www.korea-dpr.com/)
watch team america world police, it actually speaks a bit of truth about kim jong il.
DrunkenSamus
April 5th, 2009, 10:03 PM
Shit, most of the people there are still living in Bamboo huts :|
Not to be a prick, but why is it that every thing that comes out of your mouth made of stupidity?:shake:
Heathen
April 5th, 2009, 10:35 PM
I disagree. MacArthur was an idiot for moving so close to China-- he knew they were a threat, and knew that if he got too close there'd be a counterattack. But he went through it, and lost Korea for us. As a demonstration of the US's future plans, he laid a future of defeat at high cost for us.
China was already in korea. If he'd continued attacking, it might have escalated to a china-US conflict. And even then, that'd be bad.
I believe this is exactly what MaArthur wanted :v:
In fact, I'm pretty sure his insistence on nuking Korea is what got him removed. Not to mention his blatant failure to follow Truman's orders (IE, not crossing that river)
McArthur was a war hungry retard.
Mr Buckshot
April 6th, 2009, 12:22 AM
McArthur was a war hungry retard.
c'est vrai. He deserved to be sacked.
TVTyrant
April 6th, 2009, 01:06 AM
N.K. got fucking stomped. The PRC got angsty and crossed the Yalu and pushed back the coalition to the 38th parallel.
Damn post-stealer :mad:
ExAm
April 6th, 2009, 05:02 AM
Apparently they were trying to put a satellite in orbit and failed miserably. They hid that from their citizens and said that the satellite was "In orbit and transmitting revolutionary songs".
rossmum
April 6th, 2009, 07:40 AM
While they're certainly destitute and oppressed (it's full-on Stalin-esque communism, after all), they're not that backwards.
are you serious
stalin had absolutely nothing on nk
they make the pre-war and wartime ussr look like a tea party
I don't think we would nuke them back, odds are even if they had nukes they might have less than a handful. The only people that would die in the attack would be innocent civilians, as I bet the regimes command posts would be bunkered and underground.
I also wonder what the rest of the world would think about such a retaliatory strike.
oh my god surely you can't be that th-
Of course they would nuke back, that's pretty much the entire point of the US nuclear arsenal http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-psyduck.gif
oh, thank you
honestly it's about time someone did something useful about that boofy-haired scrub of a 'leader' but everyone's too lovey-dovey-peace-will-find-a-way stupid to realise that the whole country is either:
a) brainwashed, or;
b) in what amount to concentration camps.
and let's not even bother discussing the way that the leadership doesn't give a flying shit about anyone or anything else, and that extends to every treaty and its mother.
too bad they have such a ridiculously strong military and they've got all the preparations in place to completely rape the south, because the only way nk is likely to be 'fixed' any time in the foreseeable future is by some joint arse-kicking by the us, rok, china and russia or any combination thereof p much
ExAm
April 6th, 2009, 03:50 PM
Plus as long as they fight with modern technology and military tactics and not IEDs, old-as-shit AKs and camels we can easily beat them :v:
Mass
April 6th, 2009, 04:04 PM
Plus as long as they fight with modern technology and military tactics and not IEDs, old-as-shit AKs and camels we can easily beat them :v:
too bad they've sown land mines like Romans salting Carthage
Honestly, this is a job for the jackals, but they're too busy killing labor leaders in the Western Hemisphere.
FreedomFighter7
April 6th, 2009, 04:44 PM
oh my god surely you can't be that th-
I'm not, and I never liked you. Asshole. Some people are just plain wrong, and evil, and a handful of them reside on this site. I figured I'd run into one of you eventually.
Back to what I was saying:
What I meant to convey, would the US nuke NK if NK nuked the US. Like I said, NK might have a handful of nukes. Its not like they could retaliate with nuclear weapons (if they only had 1), so why nuke them? Instead stage an invasion using conventional means. Its a gamble, and a risk, so a retaliatory strike might or might not be warranted.
To the person who posted the info about Second Strike, I don't know anyone who wouldn't know about that including me.
Bodzilla
April 6th, 2009, 04:51 PM
Some people are just plain wrong, and evil?, and a handful of them reside on this site. I figured I'd run into one of you eventually.
what the fuck hahahahahahaa
XD
:dtonque:
blind
April 6th, 2009, 04:58 PM
I'm not, and I never liked you. Asshole. Some people are just plain wrong, and evil, and a handful of them reside on this site. I figured I'd run into one of you eventually.
Back to what I was saying:
What I meant to convey, would the US nuke NK if NK nuked the US. Like I said, NK might have a handful of nukes. Its not like they could retaliate with nuclear weapons (if they only had 1), so why nuke them? Instead stage an invasion using conventional means. Its a gamble, and a risk, so a retaliatory strike might or might not be warranted.
To the person who posted the info about Second Strike, I don't know anyone who wouldn't know about that including me.
HAHAHHHAAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAA
Guys is he serious.
I think hes serious..
SnaFuBAR
April 6th, 2009, 05:09 PM
I'm not, and I never liked you. Asshole. Some people are just plain wrong, and evil, and a handful of them reside on this site. I figured I'd run into one of you eventually.
protip: don't try to be another modacity white knight.
FreedomFighter7
April 6th, 2009, 05:44 PM
Way to alienate another member assholes.
teh lag
April 6th, 2009, 05:47 PM
Oh dear.
I'm going to regret this, I know it... but I can't say no to Ross v:embarrassed:v
please don't be idiots
rossmum
April 6th, 2009, 11:08 PM
too bad they've sown land mines like Romans salting Carthage
Honestly, this is a job for the jackals, but they're too busy killing labor leaders in the Western Hemisphere.
Problem is that KJI is only part of the problem. Killing him won't magically set things right, it'd create a massive power vacuum and as soon as a victor emerged from the inevitable shitfight, they'd most likely end up just as bad. When the leadership and even the civillian populace actually believe what KJI is doing is right, you have a problem. There was a thread on SA a while back about another of NK's little "GUYS TAKE ME SERIOUSLY I'M SERIOUS, SERIOUSLY" stunts, and for all the debate and flat-out arguing, not one person could work out a viable way to fix things. If you just leave it be and hope for the best, nothing will change anytime soon. If you kill KJI, another will step up to the plate. If you nuke them, they will go no-holds-barred on whoever they can reach, and I'd imagine China, Russia, the ROK and Japan won't be too impressed with the resultant fallout, not to mention you'd be killing a damn lot of civvies (albeit brainwashed ones). By the same token, a conventional invasion would meet incredible resistance from the military and civilian population alike, so unless someone like Russia or China threw the lion's share of their weight into it, there's very little chance of success.
And then, assuming that the leadership is in some way deposed and the military defeated, what do you do with the fanatic civilians who genuinely worship their Dear Leader as a god amongst men?
thehoodedsmack
April 6th, 2009, 11:12 PM
It's a terrible situation when systematic genocide starts to sound like one of the better options, isn't it... =_=
RobertGraham
April 6th, 2009, 11:14 PM
Don't be another Robert :(
thehoodedsmack
April 6th, 2009, 11:27 PM
Don't be another Robert :(
I'm not even trying to be funny. In some strange way, Dane's NWO stuff is starting to come back and make sense to me. =_= I'm getting out of this thread while I still can.
n00b1n8R
April 7th, 2009, 04:01 AM
Well if nukeing them isn't an option (too many civy deaths, potential shitfight in the asia nobody wants to be responsible for/involved in) and invasion isn't an option (Too many casualties on our side against a fanatical population (WW2 Japan anyone?)) then what real options are there?
rossmum
April 7th, 2009, 05:34 AM
Well if nukeing them isn't an option (too many civy deaths, potential shitfight in the asia nobody wants to be responsible for/involved in) and invasion isn't an option (Too many casualties on our side against a fanatical population (WW2 Japan anyone?)) then what real options are there?
ding ding ding
That's the whole problem. All the 'options' fucking suck.
n00b1n8R
April 7th, 2009, 06:29 AM
So what was the point of opening the thread?
To talk about crazy ideas that would never work?
MORE SANCTIONS DON'T LET THEM IMPORTANT A FUCKING PENCIL SHARPENER
RobertGraham
April 7th, 2009, 07:04 AM
Chemical Warfare
rossmum
April 7th, 2009, 07:21 AM
mmyes nevermind nuclear fallout let's watch as the prevailing winds sweep highly toxic chemicals across south-east asia!!!
Bodzilla
April 7th, 2009, 07:35 AM
oh rossy poo, theres like a billion of them anyway v:iamafag:v
Mass
April 7th, 2009, 09:42 AM
LET'S LEAFLET THEM INTO THE STONE AGE
Actually, we need to find a way to send leaflets from space, I'm sure they have SAMs
SnaFuBAR
April 7th, 2009, 01:35 PM
cruise missile strikes on all key military installations, naval blockade, sanctions.
legionaire45
April 7th, 2009, 01:43 PM
Let's sanction them to death.
That has worked before, right?
Darfur v2.
rossmum
April 7th, 2009, 08:16 PM
cruise missile strikes on all key military installations, naval blockade, sanctions.
do we even know where they all are
because if you miss one, it's lights out for the rok
p0lar_bear
April 8th, 2009, 12:44 PM
Drop sleeping gas bombs all over the place and then manually remove the problem people.
Only collateral damage would be a drowsy southeast Asia. vOv
English Mobster
April 8th, 2009, 03:08 PM
Drop sleeping gas bombs all over the place and then manually remove the problem people.
Only collateral damage would be a drowsy southeast Asia. vOv
@/
Snowy
April 8th, 2009, 03:48 PM
Let's throw sand in their eyes!
TVTyrant
April 8th, 2009, 04:48 PM
Or we let other countries hammer shit out for themselves for once.
Or, in a more lulzy idea, we mutate the South Koreans into Manbearpigs and unleash them upon the North Koreans!
leorimolo
April 8th, 2009, 04:51 PM
I think the only real concern if the US gets nuked is if North korea has any more Nuke bound allies. If so id be a straight on ticket to ww3.
SnaFuBAR
April 8th, 2009, 04:58 PM
Or we let other countries hammer shit out for themselves for once.
Because NK having a long range nuclear capability isn't an international problem, nor is it ours if they have a missile long range enough to strike the US?you second part was not lulzy. not at all.
DaneO'Roo
April 8th, 2009, 07:35 PM
I'm not even trying to be funny. In some strange way, Dane's NWO stuff is starting to come back and make sense to me. =_= I'm getting out of this thread while I still can.
Just fyi, it's not MY NWO stuff. You can hear Gordon Brown and the IMF and precious race card obama praise the words themselves and flaunt globalization on national tv. I mean, that's what the entire G20 was for. Establishing a global currency i.e. establishing globalisation. Shit that was called conspiracy theory and nutter talk is now being spoken out loud by world leaders themselves.
The word "world" is in the phrase "New World Order" (an idea first publicly backed by the Senior G Bush, now being pushed forward by obamas spearhead, wink wink) so that the rest of the world thinks they have some kind of stake or role to play in it. They don't.
Korea aren't going anywhere folks. In this day and age no one is dumb enough to even think about attacking the US. You guys have no threat, ok. Korea, in my opinion is merely either doing exactly what they said they were, or they're simply investing in their own form of insurance against what's about to ensue in the later part of this year.
Besides, there are much more real actual present threats that are worth talking about anyway, rather than some bullshit about korea posing a real threat to anyone in this year 2009.
CN3089
April 8th, 2009, 07:47 PM
Just fyi, it's not MY NWO stuff. You can hear Gordon Brown and the IMF and precious race card obama praise the words themselves and flaunt globalization on national tv. I mean, that's what the entire G20 was for. Establishing a global currency i.e. establishing globalisation. Shit that was called conspiracy theory and nutter talk is now being spoken out loud by world leaders themselves.
The word "world" is in the phrase "New World Order" (an idea first publicly backed by the Senior G Bush, now being pushed forward by obamas spearhead, wink wink) so that the rest of the world thinks they have some kind of stake or role to play in it. They don't.
Korea aren't going anywhere folks. In this day and age no one is dumb enough to even think about attacking the US. You guys have no threat, ok. Korea, in my opinion is merely either doing exactly what they said they were, or they're simply investing in their own form of insurance against what's about to ensue in the later part of this year.
Besides, there are much more real actual present threats that are worth talking about anyway, rather than some bullshit about korea posing a real threat to anyone in this year 2009.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/9a4d38.gif
(never stop posting)
blind
April 8th, 2009, 07:54 PM
Korea is trying to save the world economy you guys...
WAR :hist101:
RobertGraham
April 8th, 2009, 08:39 PM
(The new world order you guys)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee107/dotkito/banhammer.gif
TVTyrant
April 9th, 2009, 01:20 AM
Because NK having a long range nuclear capability isn't an international problem, nor is it ours if they have a missile long range enough to strike the US?you second part was not lulzy. not at all.
Dang, you didn't like my manbearpig plan?
And I highly doubt they would hit us with it, or anybody else. To hit anyone around them means suicide. Their most likely going to use it as a bartering tool, to try to get food and money running into their economy, or else.
rossmum
April 9th, 2009, 10:11 PM
Dane, seriously, if I wanted word-for-word conspiracy bullshit I'd ask the jerks that make that shit up, not someone who I thought had enough sense to realise the only one doing any puppeteering here is the aforementioned jerks. I don't see the Government telling me what to think, yet you seem to be utterly wrapped up in that drivel to the point where you'd say anything your truth-crusading (heh) 'experts' would.
NK is a serious bloody threat. They are led by an idiot who seems ready to do anything to get the attention he craves, whilst fucking the US right off at the same time. We are talking about a man who merrily blasts missiles in Japan's general direction on a whim. As far as I'm aware, NK is the only country which actively tests its missiles by launching them so close to a country they're hostile towards; there's little doubt what their intentions are in case of those hostilities boiling over. The North Koreans have vast invasion tunnels running under the DMZ, so they can avoid the mines, ditches, and boder guards easily. If they invade the ROK again, it's unlikely that the US and ROK forces will be able to hold out for long. This regime takes anyone who speaks out against it, their parents, and their children, and throws them into concentration camps. The whole nation is one massive police-propaganda state, with a huge big capital and fancy buildings but no real use for them since its people are so poor. I'd say that's a pretty big threat, far bigger than suggestions of globalisation which so far haven't gone very far.
Oh, and then there's the kinds of people at the G20 protests. Anarchists trying to incite violence, smashing up property, and generally causing a shitstorm of colossal proportions... because of what? What the hell is their purpose? All I see are a bunch of assorted extremists and social outcasts who have serious problems with authority (probably because those bloody coppers keep arresting them for doing whatever they like, the law which every normal person can abide by be damned), trying to cause some sort of huge uprising. Hooray, mass chaos and no laws at all! That sure would be a wonderful world to live in!
Dane, wake the fuck up.
Bodzilla
April 9th, 2009, 11:10 PM
had to have a long... long talk to dane only the other day on the proposed net neutrality, internet upgrades and internet filter ideas.
he got them all mixed up and just came to the conclusion of government controllign the world forcing people to pay to see different sites so they could sensor the internet by using the new upgrades to the infrastructure to fade out free speech on the internet.
i was like.... "right......
have you been listening to infowars again."
saddens me hey :/
Alwin Roth
April 10th, 2009, 12:29 AM
I hate this:
as soon as this news was released you got these idiots at school thinking I'm north Korean, then they go on ranting how I'm gonna blow up the school then that school vice principal asks if that's true and then....
Bodzilla
April 10th, 2009, 12:55 AM
ask your principal if they're retarded or not.
and ask the school kids which race of people your going to be the next time a story breaks.
p0lar_bear
April 10th, 2009, 02:29 AM
I hate this:
as soon as this news was released you got these idiots at school thinking I'm north Korean, then they go on ranting how I'm gonna blow up the school then that school vice principal asks if that's true and then....
That's racial profiling. Threaten to sue.
Mass
April 10th, 2009, 02:33 AM
I hate this:
as soon as this news was released you got these idiots at school thinking I'm north Korean, then they go on ranting how I'm gonna blow up the school then that school vice principal asks if that's true and then....
I would have said "If this is a serious question, I just might."
Mr Buckshot
April 10th, 2009, 02:37 AM
I hate this:
as soon as this news was released you got these idiots at school thinking I'm north Korean, then they go on ranting how I'm gonna blow up the school then that school vice principal asks if that's true and then....
huh, reminds me of back in 2001/2002 when all the racist idiots start pointing fingers at the Indian people and the Arabic people over 9/11.
mech
April 10th, 2009, 03:05 AM
Reminds me of when black people walk into stores people think they're going to steal things. And then they steal something.
Bodzilla
April 10th, 2009, 03:11 AM
what is it with people jumping on the I"LL SUE YOU bandwagon.
just call him a fucking moron and walk away whistling.
n00b1n8R
April 10th, 2009, 03:39 AM
You don't have to actually sue them, just put the fear of god the law into them.
Alwin Roth
April 10th, 2009, 07:56 AM
The principal mainly thought i had a bomb threat, because it was all over the school.
i said "no"
and he let me go. oh, with a big sigh as well.
Corndogman
April 11th, 2009, 11:28 PM
You should blow up the school, just to teach them a lesson about racial profiling :eng101:.
FRain
April 11th, 2009, 11:50 PM
Think of it this way:
If NK ever even ATTEMPTED to shoot a nuke at us, ABM's would be up and their whole country would be off the face of the earth within 2 hours.
Cortexian
April 11th, 2009, 11:59 PM
Think of it this way:
If NK ever even ATTEMPTED to shoot a nuke at us, ABM's would be up and their whole country would be off the face of the earth within 2 hours.
Except it wouldn't. It would still be there, albeit charred and crispy. Gosh, nukes don't hurl countries into space, I think you need to research them more closely.
FRain
April 12th, 2009, 12:03 AM
That was a figure of speech. >_>
TVTyrant
April 12th, 2009, 12:19 AM
I like to view it this way: People are freaking out about a country with no power or influence, that launched a rocket (that didn't work) which could potentially carry atomic bombs (that barely work. The one they detonated was smaller than some of our STANDARD style bombs). Basically, being are freaking out about North Korea's endless cycle of fail. And its funny.
kenney001
April 12th, 2009, 01:21 AM
Lol this reminds me of 24 season 2.
SnaFuBAR
April 12th, 2009, 02:59 AM
Except it wouldn't. It would still be there, albeit charred and crispy. Gosh, nukes don't hurl countries into space, I think you need to research them more closely.
tell that to the designers of tsar bomba. :party:
Jean-Luc
April 12th, 2009, 03:07 AM
You know after that bomb went off, someone reacted like such:
"Did...did we just wipe out 2000sq miles of earth in a few seconds?"
"A-yup"
"...o/"
klange
April 12th, 2009, 11:46 AM
Except it wouldn't. It would still be there, albeit charred and crispy. Gosh, nukes don't hurl countries into space, I think you need to research them more closely.
Tell that to Bikini Atoll.
Cortexian
April 12th, 2009, 06:37 PM
You know what. I saw no countries being hurled into space in any of the Tsar Bomba videos. Nor any reference to such in any of the written documentation I ever read.
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TeeKup
April 12th, 2009, 06:53 PM
It doesn't matter. Go tell that to the finnish residents who's windows were knocked out by that bomb. If my memory serves me correctly, the shock wave circled the earth 3 times.
Warsaw
April 12th, 2009, 06:57 PM
You know after that bomb went off, someone reacted like such:
"Did...did we just wipe out 2000sq miles of earth in a few seconds?"
"A-yup"
"...o/"
And Tsar Bomba was only detonated at about half-strength...it was designed to be a 100 megaton bomb, and they scaled it back for testing purposes. Now, think about that 2000sq. mi. again...
Honestly, yes, North Korea is a threat. If they actually did mount an attack on the US (or Japan, or South Korea), they'd have to deal with China's response, as well as ours, which quite frankly, they couldn't handle if they tried. China is no pushover, and the US is a steamroller once it goes on a rage war (Operations Desert Storm and Iraqi Freedom come to mind, as does the Pacific Theatre of WWII). North Korea is using technology that is 30-40 years old, while China and US have both numbers and modern weapons at their disposal. I'd say just wait for NK to make a wrong move before dealing with them.
Str1d3r_V_C0r3
April 13th, 2009, 02:10 AM
Let's just nuke North Korea.
FreedomFighter7
April 13th, 2009, 08:22 PM
If my memory serves me correctly, the shock wave circled the earth 3 times.
Yup.
Cortexian
April 14th, 2009, 03:04 AM
If my memory serves me correctly, the shock wave circled the earth 3 times.
That doesn't sound feasible, wouldn't it impact with itself and nullify it's effects on the first wave?
n00b1n8R
April 14th, 2009, 03:17 AM
No, l2wavephysics.
rossmum
April 14th, 2009, 04:45 AM
Think of it this way:
If NK ever even ATTEMPTED to shoot a nuke at us, ABM's would be up and their whole country would be off the face of the earth within 2 hours.
Not really that reassuring, funnily enough.
I like to view it this way: People are freaking out about a country with no power or influence, that launched a rocket (that didn't work) which could potentially carry atomic bombs (that barely work. The one they detonated was smaller than some of our STANDARD style bombs). Basically, being are freaking out about North Korea's endless cycle of fail. And its funny.
NK is probably (as far as countrioes go) the biggest threat to global stability and American national security on the planet. Why? Because of all the ones who shout 'DOWN WITH THE WEST' and ponce about describing how they're going to nuke America, NK is the only one whose leadership is genuinely ballsy (and/or stupid) enough to do it.
That doesn't sound feasible, wouldn't it impact with itself and nullify it's effects on the first wave?
:lolugh:
=sw=warlord
April 14th, 2009, 11:52 AM
look at it this way.
NK fires nuke, gets raped by nearly every heavy explosive weapon and is reduced to a large crater.
meanwhile at the latest G8 summit politicians are summarizing on how to combat global climate changes and rise in sea levels while wondering where to put all the excess sea water...
Bodzilla
April 14th, 2009, 04:44 PM
i dont think you understand how climate change works.
n00b1n8R
April 14th, 2009, 06:12 PM
i dont think you understand how climate change works.
rossmum
April 14th, 2009, 08:40 PM
I don't think many people in this thread realise just how many people would be killed and how much land would be laid to waste if even a single nuke landed on an American city. These are nukes, not firecrackers.
Warsaw
April 14th, 2009, 10:04 PM
Depends on which city we are talking about...:haw:. If it lands in Alaska, which is the closest to Korea, I think, then there will be land loss, but relatively (stress on this word) minor loss of human life compared to a city like San Francisco or Los Angeles, which would be utterly devastating in both regards. However, the North Koreans would then promtply lose more life and land in a nuke fight than the US did, if the US uses a retaliatory strike. However again, the US would probably launch a conventional invasion in a coalition with China and South Korea, because China would be adverse to having fallout so close to home (and to set a moral example and not retaliate with nukes :haw:).
SnaFuBAR
April 14th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Las Angeles
where?:slap:
Warsaw
April 14th, 2009, 10:35 PM
D'oh!
:saddowns:
Fixed, btw.
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