itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

[Sel]

nice waterfall

0.227259

[StankBacon]

damn that looks epic.

[n00b1n8R]

That issue was 'already' fixed, firescythe compiled that build, but I have added more playerclipping geometry to force them to fall off.

You can try exploiting it more when it's released.
I was refering to the invisible wall at the base and the missing glass in the redside tunnel.

[Cortexian]

People should learn to send me shit if they need lightmaps rendered. It's not like I have my computer on 24/7 or anything.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Or me, also with my computer on 24/7

[n00b1n8R]

Why though :v:

[Dwood]

Why though :v:

You obviously don't know how beast Freelancer's machine is. :V

[n00b1n8R]

but why would you have your computer on 24/7, I don't see a use unless you were downloading non-stop (you people and your terrabyte harddrives and constant 500kb/s internet connections!~)

[Con]

but why would you have your computer on 24/7, I don't see a use unless you were downloading non-stop (you people and your terrabyte harddrives and constant 500kb/s internet connections!~)
folding

[Sel]

People should learn to send me shit if they need lightmaps rendered. It's not like I have my computer on 24/7 or anything.

I'll hit you up with a build, and we can have a race~

0.208497

206000 to go!

[rossmum]

but why would you have your computer on 24/7, I don't see a use unless you were downloading non-stop (you people and your terrabyte harddrives and constant 500kb/s internet connections!~)
takes too much time and effort to reopen whatever i was doing when i passed out

plus i have to manually enable my vhd with all my music on it so fuck that

[Siliconmaster]

Beautiful waterfall. Glad to see you got the fog working.

[Rob Oplawar]

Well done. Project Shockwave definitely needs you.

[jcap]

Beautiful waterfall. Glad to see you got the fog working.
You have no idea... :suicide:

[Sel]

You have no idea... :suicide:

:suicide:

[Ganon]

:v:

[Hunter]

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7203/86923399.jpg

:golfclap:

Fuck you Halo 3, Halo CE can look just as good. :haw:

[Dwood]

It's obvious you tiled. a bit too obvious.

[Sel]

0.198364

over a third woop

[Heathen]

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7203/86923399.jpg

any chance of having mist floating up?

[Futzy]

Amazing work.

[Alwin Roth]

Why are there barely any "underwater" environments???

[StankBacon]

but why would you have your computer on 24/7


why turn it off?

[Siliconmaster]

Yeah, mine is always on.

[Sel]

Why are there barely any "underwater" environments???

Because those don't work too well in halo 1?

[Llama Juice]

why turn it off?

'cause some of us pay our own utilities... and they put out so much heat it can get uncomfortable at times.

anyhow... Con... that sky/water looks fepic. Nice work sir.

[StankBacon]

'cause some of us pay our own utilities... and they put out so much heat it can get uncomfortable at times.




our electricity bill is barely effected by our computers... and its always freezing in my house, so the more heat the better :p

[Inferno]

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7203/86923399.jpg

I want a 1200x3000 of that for my desktop.

I love it.

[Sel]

Con will not be doing wallpapers for anyone until he makes one at 1920x1200 of the loading screen for me.

[Inferno]

Con will not be doing wallpapers for anyone until he makes at 1920x1200 of the loading screen for me.

Is halos max size at 2048x2048?

That's what I remember at least.

[Dwood]

I'd use that as a wallpaper if we moved the focus up a bit so we see more of the background and less of the fog.

[Inferno]

This thread title is mis-leading me all of a sudden.

[Ki11a_FTW]

loading screen for the map? good idea, but wrong dimensions

[Sel]

loading screen for the map? good idea, but wrong dimensions

You misinterpreted my post.

[Cortexian]

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition>tool lightmaps levels\revelations\revelations revelations 1 0.002
Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
i'm going to render final lightmaps for revelations of levels\revelations\revelations, and i'll stop when red+blue+green = 0.002000.
Hit control-c now if this isn't right.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
start levels\revelations\revelationsNeat.

[Sel]

this just in

revelations has rolled lancer's pc

[rossmum]

i hope that object was the sign

[Con]

Nobody is allowed to complain about the strato-sentinels anymore, or i'll pull your kidneys out through your nose!!!

[Cagerrin]

Well, I can just barely see them in the last pic, so I'm certainly not going to complain.

I just hope the shroom is as hard to see...

[Siliconmaster]

Nobody is allowed to complain about the strato-sentinels anymore, or i'll pull your kidneys out through your nose!!!

Haha. Yeah, they look great now. Awesome work. :D

[Cortexian]

0.000000
0.289472
0.288828
0.288292
0.287781
0.287308
0.286878
0.286422
0.285978
0.285543
0.285120
0.284731

then I figured, why waste addition time

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition>tool lightmaps levels\revelations\revelations revelations 1 0.00001
Couldn't read map file './toolbeta.map'
i'm going to render final lightmaps for revelations of levels\revelations\revelations, and i'll stop when red+blue+green = 0.000010.
Hit control-c now if this isn't right.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
an object or light spanned 88 clusters.
start levels\revelations\revelations

[BobtheGreatII]

0.000000
0.289472
0.288828
0.288292
0.287781
0.287308
0.286878
0.286422
0.285978
0.285543
0.285120
0.284731

:ugh:

[Cortexian]

0.249360

[jcap]

Sel jumped the gun when starting lightmaps. There's UV errors so the BSP needs editing again. Who can fix the two problems?

[Sel]

GUYS THE CLIFFS HAVE VISIBLE TILING IN CERTAIN AREAS

OMGOMGOMOGMOGMOGM

:downs:

[jcap]

You also have to fix the model so the waterfall has fog and the pits don't go down 2x the depth they should be.

[Rob Oplawar]

Protip: Running lightmaps all the way down to 0.00001 will not be noticeably better than running it down to, say, .24

[Inferno]

Protip: Running lightmaps all the way down to 0.00001 will not be noticeably better than running it down to, say, .24

I think they get a little darker if you get to 0.00001 but otherwise I just go half way.

[Cortexian]

0.201534

though it's irrelevant apparently!

[paladin]

After looking at the cliff uvs, the only way to get rid of the seams left by the box map is to unwrap the cliffs. To my knowledge, using a box uvw will always have some kind of uneven or ugly seam. I would unwrap it but I don't have much time. Sorry :\

Besides that though, the level looks awesome. I played it for the first time tonight and was blown away at the amount of visual detail. I wasn't to detracted by the cliffs, but some spots were noticeable.

[jcap]

It looks like there was a rush job on the cliffs in hopes to release the map on October 22. Thank God it wasn't. It looks amateurish and unfinished - worthy of being only beta status, not final release. Finish the map paying attention to all detail and don't release until all existing problems are fixed.

You put a lot of work into the map and there was countless hours of work done to make the map aesthetically pleasing. Don't let a half-assed rushed job on the cliffs blow it.

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/rev_terrible_cliffs.jpg

That's just one part of the map. It's one of hundreds. Any rock wall you look at looks identical to that.

[EX12693]

Yeah that is REALLY bad. Fix. Or I will never play it.

[Rob Oplawar]

After looking at the cliff uvs, the only way to get rid of the seams left by the box map is to unwrap the cliffs. To my knowledge, using a box uvw will always have some kind of uneven or ugly seam.
I thought it was just a given that you would unwrap a surface like that. I mean, I simply wouldn't consider box projection an alternative.



Don't let a half-assed rushed job on the cliffs blow it.
QFT

[Timo]

eww, fix that shit man :x

[TeeKup]

I went through it today. Needless to say I was :x

[paladin]

Dont be mean guis!

[Inferno]

Unwrapping seamless cliffs takes forever. Not suggested unless you have a lot of good music and patience.

[ZeRk`]

sel we need talk. bruh

[Cortexian]

*stopped lightmaps*

[.Wolf™]

Yeah that is REALLY bad. Fix. Or I will never play it.
WE do not care! Also p nice to see map is released soon :neckbeard:

[Arteen]

Unwrapping seamless cliffs takes forever. Not suggested unless you have a lot of good music and patience.
Meh. I make sure to unwrap cliffs because the end result looks really nice. In addition, I'm not so keen on how those cliffs look next to the ground. You should either have some border effect on the top and bottom of the cliffs (e.g. the moss on dangercanyon_cliff_walls), or have the ground near the cliffs transition to the color of the cliffs (e.g. Blood Gulch).

[p0lar_bear]

just decrease the tile amount. Problem solved.

[TheGhost]

Ugh no. Just do it like a man. I once unwrapped the entire Blood Gulch canyon seamlessly. You old farts should remember the Blood Gulch scenario files release. I studied that map in SparkEdit so much to get the scenario and BSP things as close as possible to the real thing.

[Ganon]

manly uvw'ing, sounds hot

[Higuy]

Sel, after looking at your ground shader.. :saddowns: talk to me on xfire

[Sel]

fine Ill fuckin uv it faggs

[Timo]

:]

[paladin]

peer pressure

[.Wolf™]

Sel, after looking at your ground shader.. :saddowns: talk to me on xfire
It looks fine.I believe Con can fix whatever it is you dont like with the shader.

[jcap]

I'd like to hear what he thinks about it...

[Higuy]

I just think it could look better then it does now is all.

[Con]

I didn't make the shader, Sel did.

[.Wolf™]

Well then Sel could probably fix it. Whatever the problem was.

[jcap]

Well Sel ended up fixing it...well...some of it.........

The Good

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-01-14-10.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-53-07-76.jpg

The Ugly

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-47-19-76.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-47-36-49.jpg

More...

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-47-53-83.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-48-32-49.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-48-55-21.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-49-29-67.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-51-06-31.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-51-34-02.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-52-19-60.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-53-28-35.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-53-59-79.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-54-28-90.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-54-44-24.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-55-02-49.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-55-23-46.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-55-33-64.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-55-51-58.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-22%2023-56-13-78.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-02-16-44.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-02-48-07.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-02-54-88.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-03-02-03.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-03-12-18.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-03-34-13.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-03-55-23.jpg

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/halo/screenshots/revelations/uv/haloce%202009-10-23%2000-04-11-62.jpg

[Sel]

Get someone to UV it, because I definitely don't know how then.

[Con]

Wow you really went to town.

[Con]

lookit this mess :smith:

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/3033/captureqv.png

EDIT:

I changed the waterfall again.
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/7994/46402897.jpg



removed the details from the main waterfall mask as they betrayed the sense of movement
added a sheets mask to the white water that gives large-scale variation
replaced one of the maps on the shader behind the white water to look more like waves and less like splashy water

It has a greater sense of movement now, I just need to adjust the model a bit more to fix the uv's and that visible edge.

[Cortexian]

Con, what would be the reason that the waterfall doesn't show up in Sapien or the game for me? I used a recent build that Sel sent me and he said the waterfall showed up fine for him.

[hry]

Ohh nice waterfall.

[paladin]

Con, what would be the reason that the waterfall doesn't show up in Sapien or the game for me? I used a recent build that Sel sent me and he said the waterfall showed up fine for him.

Cause you're doing it wrong...

[Cortexian]

Cause you're doing it wrong...
Here's a hint; I'm not doing it wrong.

[paladin]

If what you say is true, you would see it. Therefore, you're doing it wrong.

[Cortexian]

No, I may unintentionally be doing something wrong, though I am fairly sure I am doing everything correctly. Sel sent me a map and without modifying it at all I couldn't see the waterfall in game, he could. I extracted the contents of said map and could not see the waterfall in Sapien either. This leads me to believe it is something wrong with the map/game, since I never changed anything that would effect the water fall.

So instead of saying "you're doing it wrong", perhaps you can suggest some things that may cause the waterfall to not appear (instead of being totally useless)!

[Jelly]

Does camo show up properly for you?

[Cortexian]

Yes, I'm using Yelo and it appears to have a built in camo fix.

http://www.modacity.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=128&d=1256314178

[Sel]

Maybe your graphics card has issues rendering complex skies, or you have an older version of the sky (why would you have this?) that did not have the waterfall in it, and you didn't overwrite it when you ripped the level.

[jcap]

Someone please unwrap this shit.

[Reaper Man]

The new waterfall shaders look strange.. I can't really describe it, the older ones look better.

[.Wolf™]

Think it looks p good!

[jcap]

Seems like maybe the new waterfall is too transparent - not white enough - and the V's aren't as well defined anymore.

[Cortexian]

Maybe your graphics card
My dual GTX 285's?

lol

[Dwood]

My dual GTX 285's?

lol

Actually nVidia as been known to screw with Halo... anything post- 7x series seems to screw it up. (ie camo, decals)

[Cortexian]

Yes I'm avidly aware of those two issues. I have decals disabled and there's a camo fix built into Yelo so that shouldn't be a problem.

I've been able to see the waterfall on older builds.

[Boba]

For some reason, the textures really don't 'pop' to me.

All of the forerunner stuff just seems undetailed.

'heh'

[.Wolf™]

Does it matter? Its a game...

[Con]

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/370/capturely.png
:woop:


Yes I'm avidly aware of those two issues. I have decals disabled and there's a camo fix built into Yelo so that shouldn't be a problem.

I've been able to see the waterfall on older builds.

[14:14] Jcap: any idea what could be causing freelancer's problem?
[14:14] Con: i have an idea
[14:15] Con:
[14:09] selenticthepanda: I might have sent him the one without the waterfall
[14:09] selenticthepanda: I dont remember
[14:09] selenticthepanda: hahah
[14:15] Jcap: oh lol

:golfclap:

edit: ugh lookit me double posting my bad

[StankBacon]

LOL

[Reaper Man]

Needs moar vidya clip.

[Higuy]

Yes I'm avidly aware of those two issues. I have decals disabled and there's a camo fix built into Yelo so that shouldn't be a problem.
I don't know where your getting this information, but as far as I remember, yelo battery release #3 (the latest) did not have a camo fix. DXTweaker dosen't work with it either, so what are you talking about..
E: After looking at this, striaght from the man who made it, it says no where theres a camo fix. (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3966&highlight=Yelo+Battery)
Your camo might be completley fine, my old 9500gt camo worked fine.

note for sel:
my native res is 1920x1200, so I can get you any pictures in that res if you want.

[Con]

last waterfall pic I swear! (it's done)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2179/67077945.jpg

Yes, that little edge has been fixed.

[AAA]

My God.

[Dwood]

The fog looked better in the 1st pic on the page. now it's just :ugh:

Lessen the grey plz

[jcap]

Still need someone to unwrap the cliffs =D

[Con]

The fog looked better in the 1st pic on the page. now it's just :ugh:

Lessen the grey plz
I didn't change the fog at all.

[Cortexian]

[14:14] Jcap: any idea what could be causing freelancer's problem?
[14:14] Con: i have an idea
[14:15] Con:
[14:09] selenticthepanda: I might have sent him the one without the waterfall
[14:09] selenticthepanda: I dont remember
[14:09] selenticthepanda: hahah
[14:15] Jcap: oh lol

:golfclap:
Oh well, that would explain it... lmao


I don't know where your getting this information, but as far as I remember, yelo battery release #3 (the latest) did not have a camo fix. DXTweaker dosen't work with it either, so what are you talking about..
E: After looking at this, striaght from the man who made it, it says no where theres a camo fix. (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3966&highlight=Yelo+Battery)
Your camo might be completley fine, my old 9500gt camo worked fine.
Without Yelo my camo does not show up properly (it's just see-through like on most Nvidia cards). With Yelo it shows up properly.

The version you linked me to is OLD as hell, latest is attached to the bottom of this post (it's been renamed to Open Sauce, I'm sure you've heard of it):
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17758

[Corndogman]

Does the waterfall emit any sound from it when standing nearby? I haven't played any recent builds so sorry if this is obvious. I was just thinking that a typical "WHAAAAAAAA" sound that large waterfalls tend make would be a nice touch.

Get Flibit on that if there aint, yo.

[Con]

Yes, Sel added a loud waterfall sound to that area. It sounds really good.

[paladin]

That looks so bad ass. :realsmug:

[Reaper Man]

I don't think it looks as believable as the first shaders you did for that thing, a couple pages back. Still looks cool, nonetheless.

[Advancebo]

last waterfall pic I swear! (it's done)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2179/67077945.jpg

Yes, that little edge has been fixed.

I love it :iamafag:

[Con]

I don't think it looks as believable as the first shaders you did for that thing, a couple pages back. Still looks cool, nonetheless.
You would have to see it ingame. The problem it had was that the mask had a lot of noise and the mask itself wasn't animated (it had to be static). There were of a lot of details that just stood in place, so I tried to fix this with a blurrier mask and an additional animated map.

[Matooba]

last waterfall pic I swear! (it's done)
http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/2179/67077945.jpg

Yes, that little edge has been fixed.

I think the white water should be dropped down. Water flows over before it starts foaming. It would be more realistic.

[.Wolf™]

Hate to break it to you. This is just a game...

[Con]

Revelations is serious business.

[BobtheGreatII]

Revelations is serious business.

This. :nsmug:

[jcap]

The lack of unwrapping is serious business.

[Higuy]

The lack of unwrapping is serious business.
Ask Dee to do it.

[TheGhost]

Guys it's really not that difficult. (I don't have 3ds installed though)

It would probably only take an hour or two, assuming the cliffs are already well UV'd except for the seams.

[TeeKup]

It could use a bit more...color too. >_>

[Reaper Man]

You would have to see it ingame. The problem it had was that the mask had a lot of noise and the mask itself wasn't animated (it had to be static). There were of a lot of details that just stood in place, so I tried to fix this with a blurrier mask and an additional animated map.
Can you post a video of the waterfall? I really wanna see it in action.

[Con]

4b3h1iMvU70
Give it time to process. Sorry for the shit quality, but I don't feel like waiting hours for it to upload.

This video is still being processed. Video quality may improve once processing is complete.
meh

[Sel]

Ask Dee to do it.

uh

no

[ThePlague]

Looks pretty awesome, nice layering.

[Con]

I didn't make the model save for the fog planes. It's just straight out of the old bsp into the sky.

[PopeAK49]

Damn that's really good. I miss modeling. :smith:

[CrAsHOvErRide]

That's some nice waterfall you got there :P

[Cortexian]

That looks great, can't wait to tool lightmaps 0 0.000001

[Arteen]

The lack of unwrapping is serious business.
With all the work Con put into the sky and waterfall, blatantly half-assed cliff UVs would seem almost insulting to his effort, to be honest.

[paladin]

That looks great, can't wait to tool lightmaps 0 0.000001

why not

1 0.000001

[Cortexian]

why not

1 0.000001
Because that's what I meant to type :gonk:

[BobtheGreatII]

Map is looking pro, UV'ing aside, this map is pretty much awesome. Final release is going to be great too.

[Sel]

With all the work Con put into the sky and waterfall, blatantly half-assed cliff UVs would seem almost insulting to his effort, to be honest.

I'm open to volunteers, because I have no idea how to do them.

[TheGhost]

why not

1 0.000001

Submit it to Amazon's cloud. I wonder how long it would take it ;-p

[Sel]

Submit it to Amazon's cloud. I wonder how long it would take it ;-p

About the same time, since halo can only use one processing core.

[Con]

I'm open to volunteers, because I have no idea how to do them.
Well, I offered to tell you how but you turned me down so..

[Sel]

Well, I offered to tell you how but you turned me down so..

Too busy with school and killing floor~

[TheGhost]

About the same time, since halo can only use one processing core.

So you're saying running it on a quad core would not help?

[Sel]

So you're saying running it on a quad core would not help?

Pretty much, yes.

Atleast with the lightmapping process, the other cores could still take the strain of system tasks off of the core doing the lightmaps though.

[Higuy]

Pretty much, yes.

Atleast with the lightmapping process, the other cores could still take the strain of system tasks off of the core doing the lightmaps though.
I believe e3p0's tool he released a while back had dual core processing. not sure though..

[Reaper Man]

That waterfall looks kickass. What would be an awesome project in the future would be to have a map based at the bottom of one of those, surrounded completely by waterfalls :-3

[Con]

That waterfall looks kickass. What would be an awesome project in the future would be to have a map based at the bottom of one of those, surrounded completely by waterfalls :-3
Heh, I sketched a map concept like that once.

[Sel]

I believe e3p0's tool he released a while back had dual core processing. not sure though..

Because I'm definitely going to use something e3po made.

:\

[Jelly]

I believe e3p0's tool he released a while back had dual core processing. not sure though..
The extra load on your other cores was just his keylogger

[Dwood]

Because I'm definitely going to use something e3po made.

:\

Do it on a Linux computer. :3

[Higuy]

Because I'm definitely going to use something e3po made.

:\
Nothing is wrong with his programs. Don't listen to useless trash people with grudges.

[Ganon]

Nothing is wrong with his programs. Don't listen to useless trash people with grudges.

e3p0 is a fucking cunt, hth

[TeeKup]

Please stop being irrational in this thread. I'd like to see it finished so can we please get back on topic.

[SnaFuBAR]

Nothing is wrong with his programs. Don't listen to useless trash people with grudges.

lol

[Higuy]

e3p0 is a fucking cunt, hth
That is true, but that dosent mean people should be like "lol virus don't use" at all his stuff. Even Dennis took down all his programs becuase people said they had viruses.

I wont continue this, at least not here.

[Cortexian]

The only reason the processing seemed to be going faster on my processor was because my processor is clocked a whole Gigahertz faster than Sel's.

If there were a multi-core or GPU rendering program for lightmaps I'm sure I could have it done in a day or less.

[chrisk123999]

I actually pm'ed Dennis about why he removed it and I got this as his response:


The programmer has absolutely no credibility and is not trusted by this website. The tools he uploaded to this website performed insecure and potentially invasive functions that were not documented in the readme files. Besides that the programmer has intentionally hacked, removed and bypassed fixed limitations within the tools without regard to the full ramifications or understanding of why they were there in the first place causing compiled map files that give exceptions because the game cannot handle the parameters he bypassed.

Above and beyond all that the fact that the programmer imbedded code into some of his published tools that “phoned home” and supplied him with IP, PC specs and other information about the user WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE is cause enough to distrust ANYTHING that programmer creates. That fact was publicly exposed when after being insulted and in a fit of pique he remotely disabled one of his tools for all users. This website will NEVER trust anything produced by the programmer nor will we ever expose our users to that kind of untrustworthy and potentially insecure software.

I personally use his sapien and agree with Higuy.

[Maniac]

Pm's should remain just that.

[chrisk123999]

He's pretty much said the same thing on his forums. It was only a PM because it was about a topic he locked discussing it.

[Sel]

For the record, I didn't refuse to do them, I tried and wasn't able to!

[Maniac]

Use a plugin to help.
Textools, Roadkill, Deep uv, Unwrella there are lots.

[Con]

It's better to just learn how to properly UV cliffs than relying on some plugin to do it all for you. If you tried and weren't able to, then come to me for help. Like I said before, I won't do them for you but I'll teach you how.

[DEElekgolo]

Use a plugin to help.
Textools, Roadkill, Deep uv, Unwrella there are lots.
Textools (http://www.renderhjs.net/textools/) is a maxscript. Very useful.

[Maniac]

Yes Textools is definitely one of the best scripts i have used.

[Con]

Currently teaching sel how to fix these. Progress!

[Sel]

at 12:35 in the am

progress was made in unwrapping the cliffs

[BobtheGreatII]

at 12:35 in the am

progress was made in unwrapping the cliffs

:neckbeard:

[Sel]

halo can suck a dick

thats all

[Ganon]

delete rev

[Sel]

nevermind fixed it

ganon ur advice was too late sorry

[Ganon]

delete revé

[Cortexian]

delete revé
can't i already have the tags

E: Houston we have a problem!
http://freelancer.modacity.net/pics/revlol.jpg

[Gwunty]

ehhh I assume the map was ripped with HEK+
and that hek+ fucked the lightmaps up
or the bsp

[Ganon]

haha thats awesome, release that.

[Dwood]

haha thats awesome, release that.

Quotin' dis.

[Cortexian]

I'm re-running lightmaps on my PC to see if that's the problem... But I doubt it.

[il Duce Primo]

You have some corrupted bitmaps. Congrats!

[Con]

i just finished the post-game carnage report background

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/70/aaaaxv.jpg

[Cortexian]

You have some corrupted bitmaps. Congrats!
Re-running lightmaps at 0 0.001 fixed the problem.

Waiting on good UV version to 1 0.000001

[LlamaMaster]

Cool map sel! I see you released it when you said you would! Damn, I wish I was as good as you. :<

[Sel]

Cool map sel! I see you released it when you said you would! Damn, I wish I was as good as you. :<

My release date was the 30th, I probably won't be far off, but it'll probably be late :(

[InnerGoat]

nice!

[Sel]

rook has a little

surprise

for everyone

when we release this

[sevlag]

rook has a little

surprise

for everyone

when we release this
>insert coming out of closet/gay reference joke here<

[Ganon]

rook has a little

surprise

for everyone

when we release this

i bet it

has something

to do with

girl cartoons

[Kalub]

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2958/1256388127426.gif

in dis thread

[Cortexian]

The version Sel likes:
http://freelancer.modacity.net/pics/rev_wallpaper.jpg

The better version:
http://freelancer.modacity.net/pics/rev_wallpaper_less_blue.jpg

Creds to Ballscars for the general idea and theme.

[TheGhost]

2nd is better

[Con]

edit: didn't realize this was a desktop
in that case, the second one

[paladin]

I 3rd the 2nd

[Dwood]

I 2nd the third. owai-

[paladin]

Probably can help when I get home Sel/Jcrap. With traffic, itll be about an hour and a half.

[Sel]

2nd is better

^

[Cortexian]

http://freelancer.modacity.net/pics/rev_wallpaper_less_blue2.jpg

I like this one the best, only a very small bit different than the second version.

[paladin]

This...
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/6453/haloce2009102721172822.jpg
To this...
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4244/19593938.jpg

This...
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1258/haloce2009102721152236.jpg
To this...
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/952/21404963.jpg

This column no longer has a vertical seem, but there's still one around the top. Cant do much about that. :\

plus a few others I didn't render. Jap I sent you the max file on aim.

[English Mobster]

Seam*
Sorry, it was driving me insane.

[Sel]

I think it fits the map real well :) :)

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5484/krak1.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5484/krak2.jpg

http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/5484/krak3.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/0screenshot00copy-1.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/1screenshot00copy-1.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/2screenshot00copy.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/3screenshot00copy.jpg

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l42/selentic/4screenshot00copy.jpg

[paladin]

Lol, is that the vehicle you were talking about last night?

[Sel]

Yup

lol

[paladin]

Haha, you described them perfectly.

[TeeKup]

What is that HORRENDOUS vehicle...D:

[Sel]

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3184

[Con]

Keep it, it makes the map look even better.

[TeeKup]

That's disgusting....

[Con]

It must be covenant, look how purple it is!

[Sel]

That's disgusting....

It's also 2 summers old, and it's staying in the map.

Atleast as a /veh thing, lol

[paladin]

Keep it

[Sel]

I intend to.

[paladin]

also, did jcap approve the corrections I made?

[Rook]

this map just gets better and better

[paladin]

Like my sex skills :realsmug:

[Cortexian]

dickinabox

[paladin]

Rookinabox

[Sel]

Rookinabox

Interesting true story...

[TeeKup]

Interesting true story...

....WHAT!? <_>;;;;

[paladin]

:realsmug:

[Ganon]

Needs the power ranger mechs from pipedream

[ZeRk`]

/veh

oshi

also: SEL NEED2TALK

[Sel]

The map is sitting at about 97MB~ right now, so I'm probably not going to be adding anything else for now.

[Lateksi]

Does that thing shoot something?

[Cortexian]

Does that thing shoot something?
nukes

[ZeRk`]

Captain Rev: tf2 is 2.50
Captain Rev: tell your friends
Captain Rev: god fucking dammit zerk
Captain Rev: I'm not releasing rev until you get it

welp sorry guys.

[Sel]

[17:48] Captain Rev: well shit
[17:48] Captain Rev: you're 48 minutes late kid
[17:48] zerkaLERK: LOL
[17:48] zerkaLERK: iot will happen again
[17:48] Captain Rev: nope
[17:48] Captain Rev: it wont
[17:48] Captain Rev: sorry zerk rev is never getting released
[17:48] zerkaLERK: dafuck
[17:48] zerkaLERK: SORRY CE COMMUNITY

that's a bummer huh

[Cortexian]

Don't worry guys I'll release it unprotected after I finish lightmaps!

[Higuy]

Don't worry guys I'll release it unprotected after I finish lightmaps!
Like that will ever happen!

[Cortexian]

0.221889

[CrAsHOvErRide]

5 years to go...at least I know now why yoyoland took so long :downsrim:

[AAA]

Buzz Kill.

Srsly?

[Cortexian]

0.199945

E: 0.189655

[=sw=warlord]

0.199945

E: 0.189655
{EXCEPTION ERROR: Tool has performed an illegal operation and now has to close down}

[Cortexian]

Or instead of that: 0.155470

[paladin]

how long has it been running?

[Cortexian]

how long has it been running?
*Checks chat logs*

Started October 28th at 01:05 hours

It's now October 30th at 16:05 hours

So that's about 55 hours 10 minutes, unless I'm still sleepy and my math is wrong.

0.154881

[paladin]

Wow. I wager it takes 9 Days, 13 Hours, 25 minutes, and 13 seconds

[Cortexian]

Should be finished around Monday.

[paladin]

doubt it

[StankBacon]

totally unnecessary to run full quality lightmaps... especially when there are other ways to do it that give far better results in a fraction of the time.

[Cortexian]

totally unnecessary to run full quality lightmaps... especially when there are other ways to do it that give far better results in a fraction of the time.
Go ahead and do that then.

[Kalub]

Was always curious what Tool could do for lightmaps...

But baking them can do some pretty sweet shit too.

[chrisk123999]

You still need to run it in tool or sapien before you can do custom lightmaps.

[ZeRk`]

Well at least finally this map can be released.


zerkaLERK: i has acquired team fortress 2 :}
Thrillentic~: :O

[Sel]

[16:12] zerkaLERK: i has acquired team fortress 2 :}

I guess we can release this then.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

This old legendary french guy released a tutorial on making lightmaps in Max I think.

[Cortexian]

0.116876

[Inferno]

TBH going to 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 on quality 1 will take about a week. It seems to get slower as you get closer to 0. Also higher poly map and larger map take even longer. For example... Dismal and harbringer have nearly the same poly count but dismal is much larger. Dismal takes 10x longer to lightmap.

[Cortexian]

I'm only going to 0.000100 at quality 1, since Sel said the difference would be pretty impossible to see.

[il Duce Primo]

Real men go all the way. :nsmug:

[Sel]

Real men go all the way. :nsmug:

Have fun with that for the cmt version I'm sure you'll be forced into doin~~

[Kalub]

cmt better not spew their shit into this map

[Cortexian]

I'll stop lightmaps right now if CMT is going to have any part of Revelations...

[Gwunty]

I'll stop lightmaps right now if CMT is going to have any part of Revelations...
CMT is modding revelations :downs:

[Ganon]

I'll stop lightmaps right now if CMT is going to have any part of Revelations...

do it




then delete it

[Cortexian]

Crtl^C

[il Duce Primo]

Why do you keep saying cmt is modding Revelations? Who ever stated this?

[Dwood]

Why do you keep saying cmt is modding Revelations? Who ever stated this?

And why would they? Honestly.

[paladin]

And why would they? Honestly.

Duh, Bungie Favs!