[WIP] CMT Master Chief Biped

[NuggetWarmer]

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/CMTMCBipedUnbelted-1.png
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/CMTMCBipedHead-1.png

Anything I need to do? Recommendations? Criticisms?

[ThePlague]

Is this what those pieces were that you were modeling?

[Rob Oplawar]

I like it. The way the belt blends into the abdomen is a little odd, though... e: also, what snaf said.

[SnaFuBAR]

fix the mouth/jaw area of the helmet. it looks like any fucking moto gp helmet and is nothing near the iconic helmet mc has. fucking sucks, get rid of it.

[ThePlague]

Why do his legs look short as hell compared to the rest of his body?

[NuggetWarmer]

Is this what those pieces were that you were modeling?

Halo 3 MC =/= CMT MC


I like it. The way the belt blends into the abdomen is a little odd, though... e: also, what snaf said.

Eh, idk. :)


fix the mouth/jaw area of the helmet. it looks like any fucking moto gp helmet and is nothing near the iconic helmet mc has. fucking sucks, get rid of it.

I see what you mean, but Masterz has been nagging me to make it like it is now for awhile.

EDIT:


Why do his legs look short as hell compared to the rest of his body?

They're the same height as the H1 MC's legs, so I dunno.

[ThePlague]

Then the armor should be smaller or something, because it looks wrong. Also, add some more detail to the shin guards, they don't line up with all of the detail everywhere else.

[Heathen]

Snaf, I like the mask.

Explain what it is you dont like.

[rossmum]

Snaf, I like the mask.

Explain what it is you dont like.


it looks like any fucking moto gp helmet and is nothing near the iconic helmet mc has. fucking sucks, get rid of it.
and i agree with snaf, it's horrible and generic

[nick3d]

I agree with the shin guards but i dont see why you dont like the helmet, but everyone has there own opinions i guess, i like the helmet (Y)

[Roostervier]

Halo 3 MC =/= CMT MC

I see what you mean, but Masterz has been nagging me to make it like it is now for awhile.

Who cares what masters wants, it looks fucking terrible. You should make it more like h1's. Also, the weird bump things on his inner thighs don't look all that good either. Any detail in there can be done with texturing. The other problem I have is that he looks lanky. He's supposed to be like a walking tank, so make him more stocky. Oh, and his arms look too long. Shorten them up so that his hand goes half way down his thighs, and not right next to his knees. The hands should stop roughly around the red line, I think.

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9628/handsq.jpg

[Reaper Man]

I looks like a mashup of the the Halo 1 armor and the Halo 3 armor, which is horrible.

Combining "cool" elements from different armors ≠ aesthetically pleasing result.

"Cool" is not everything. The design is not consistent either, the style of the armor completely changes below the waist and past the shoulders. Hence my above point.

I too agree with what Snaf said about the helmet.

The model also looks disproportionate and stocky.

[L0d3x]

I like chicken.

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u27/foxymccloud/Modeling/CMTArmor2.jpg

Oh and the side by side of the model is of an older render!
Oh and Masters says your art means shit of you don't understand the game!

[Joshflighter]

I like the helmet, I have no idea whats the big deal....

[Jean-Luc]

Oh and Masters says your art means shit of you don't understand the game!

What?

[Roostervier]

What?
That was my exact same thought.

[Invader Veex]

I'm still saying I like it better with the belt. It seems rather plain without it.

And I like the helmet. If there was a mark v helm, what would be the point in making another new biped in the first place?

[Sel]

What?

Uhh'

[ThePlague]

Why not just go custom with the helmet? Keep with the Mark V style, but add some new flavor.

[BobtheGreatII]

Why not just go custom with the helmet? Keep with the Mark V style, but add some new flavor.

Looks fairly original to me... :eyesroll:

[jngrow]

The pic that Lod posted, helmet on the right is way better.

[thehoodedsmack]

The pic that Lod posted, helmet on the right is way better.

The top is boring, and the mouthpiece looks like scuba gear. :/

Take the visor on the right and put it on the left, and do something with the middle of the mouth-area. Just looks too empty. I think that'd result in the best look.

[/twocents]

[jngrow]

The top is boring, and the mouthpiece looks like scuba gear. :/

Take the visor on the right and put it on the left, and do something with the middle of the mouth-area. Just looks too empty. I think that'd result in the best look.

[/twocents]

Yeah, that's probably better. I just hated the visor and mouth area on the left one SO much.

[Corndogman]

I don't really like the belt from the old one, but I think the area looks too plain without something there. Try to find something to fill that void that looks better.

[Huero]

imo I think the bottom half of the helmet should be wider than the top half

[Rob Oplawar]

Who cares what masters wants
a million times this


Oh and Masters says your art means shit of you don't understand the game!

Masterz, I understand you are the leader of CMT, but you do not need to micromanage. Listen to the suggestions people give you, especially your team.
Let me be clear here: You are not always right.

The helmet is probably the most iconic part of the Master Chief's armor. If you're going to do it in high res, do it fucking right. I'm ok with a modified version, but only if the modified version is better. The helmet you have now, while decent, is shit compared to the original. Snaf is exactly right, it looks like a generic motorcross helmet. The original MC helmet had a much more interesting silhouette to the front and to the side- look at the comparison L0d3x posted. This new helmet is flat and boring and generic. Bring back the Master Chief.
Some suggestions: the MC's visor is actually spherical, not cylindrical.
The vents on the front protrude a good distance to add visual interest to an otherwise flat surface.
The original has all around a more interesting shape, with ins and outs and corners and indentations, while the new one is mostly smooth.

To be clear: I don't mean literally smooth, because the one you have here does have "features" to break it up, but I'm talking about real features that really affect the silhouette.


edit: apparently I misunderstood; Masterz really wasn't defending the helmet. Still, unnecessary as it may be, I stand by what I said.

ee:
Masterz1337 (11:45:38 PM): jsut post that my coment was to changing propotions
Masterz1337 (11:45:54 PM): and that i've hated the current helmet.
Masterz1337 (11:46:10 PM): cause well, that's the truth

[Masterz1337]

fix the mouth/jaw area of the helmet. it looks like any fucking moto gp helmet and is nothing near the iconic helmet mc has. fucking sucks, get rid of it.

That's not very constructive.

[Sel]

That's not very constructive.
That's not very constructive.

[Masterz1337]

Well, as snaf claims to have experiance in the industry, I was hoping he could provide better feedback. I'd like to hear his opinion on what makes a good helmet that stays true to the Master Chief's helmet since I was planning on modeling my own armour.

[SnaFuBAR]

For the halo series? Keep it iconic rather than degrading it to a standard modern era helmet. It's boring, it doesn't match the armor. Not even the design of the face/jaw area match the top of the helmet. Overall it's not badly modeled but it is a design failure.

[Disaster]

It hardly looks like a motor cross helmet. Any resemblance in the structure of it is only because its fit for a human so it has to have similar proportions. It looks fine to me however the only thing that could use some changing is a slight tapering in of the jaw.
http://www.kaosracewear.com/components/Images/helmet_1.jpg

[Heathen]

I liek the fucking helmet.

Leave it.

[Roostervier]

It's like 1 vs at least 3 others though. You should change it.

[BobtheGreatII]

I liek the fucking helmet.

Leave it.

This

[Roostervier]

Okay 2 vs 3. Still, change it D:

[Gwunty]

Keep it.

[ThePlague]

Change it to something more custom.

[BobtheGreatII]

Change it to something more custom.

Why do people keep saying this?

Seriously.

Even if you think it looks like the Halo 3 Mark V. It doesn't. Take a better look.

http://www.coolbh.com/schnicker/images/Armor/markv.jpg

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/9628/handsq.jpg

I mean sure. You can see some similarities. But I see more differences.

I love it. Keep it.

[Joshflighter]

It's like 1 vs at least 3 others though. You should change it.


Actually I stated earlier in the thread to keep it too. ;)

[TeeKup]

Despite what snaf and ross said, I actually like the helmet.

[Heathen]

Despite what snaf and ross said, I actually like the helmet.
Fuck yes.

Empower the likers.

[Rob Oplawar]

nnnnnnnnnnnnooooooes
I won't stand for it.

[Huero]

you're not going to see it
except in cutscenes
fuck i just realized how stupid this post is im going to go back to eating peanuts now