E3 '09

[Jean-Luc]

Grrrr, I wish people would stop saying this. It's a Spartan with the EOD(?) helmet and awesomely bulky armour.
:downs:
I'm an idiot.

[Cagerrin]

Yet everything in the trailer points to what going on as not Covenant. We know about when the Covies attacked, and how it went down. There's no way to explain how there's no visible Covie ships, explosions on the planet (plus the fires in spots where there are no explosions), no Plasma bombardments, and an accurate Slipspace jump past the defense platforms which wasn't possible for either side pre-first strike, so unless the trailer is bat shit bullshit, I'm leaning towards a Forerunner, Precursor, or a new faction we haven't heard about. My best bet is Forerunner, seeing as the explosions on the surface could be some kind of defense system, which also resulted in something using forerunner tech to do the accurate slipspace jump.
Am I the only one who's seeing the explosions as caused by plasma torpedos?

[Jean-Luc]

Am I the only one who's seeing the explosions as caused by plasma torpedos?
I see explosions that look like plasma detonations, but I'm not seeing any actual projectiles.

[Cagerrin]

I see explosions that look like plasma detonations, but I'm not seeing any actual projectiles.
Neither am I. What I'm seeing is that it starts as a normal explosion(from something hitting the ground?), and then the blue wave of a plasma explosion, then massive secondary explosions from whatever the plasma's hitting.

[ODX]

*Referring to the weapon Roach used in the gameplay video* Probably an M4 with attachments.Do M4's have ophandles/bolts on the right side of them where AK-47 bolts are? Because if not, I don't think it is since the reload was like a fusion of the [CoD4] M4 reload and AK-47 charging.

[SnaFuBAR]

Do M4's have ophandles/bolts on the right side of them where AK-47 bolts are? Because if not, I don't think it is since the reload was like a fusion of the [CoD4] M4 reload and AK-47 charging.
could have been an AK-5

[SnaFuBAR]

I'm leaning towards a Forerunner, Precursor, or a new faction we haven't heard about.
probably the worst fucking guess since there's a human ship floating above the planet. How the fuck would you see a covie ship past the defense grid, above the dark side of the planet anyways? Everything said was human. Marines over-run? Sierra 259? Human ship? Spartans? Since when did the Forerunners ever attack a human colony world? Those blue flashes are likely plasma bombardment. The orange glow is because of the rapid rate things are obviously being incinerated.

[Warsaw]

could have been an AK-5

M4 bolts are a T-shaped charging handle centered at the back of the rifle, under the carry handle and above the stock. This was probably one of those gross AK-wannabes with rails and an M4 stock.

[SnaFuBAR]

You think i don't know that? I didn't see the AR in question. It read to me like there was a charging handle pull from the right side. PS that's a charging handle, not a bolt.

[Masterz1337]

Yeah you best pardon his ignorance.

[Limited]

There's no way to explain how there's no visible Covie ships
Dude they have force fields and stuff, plus some elites can go invisible, maybe they worked out how to make the ships invisible.

Its obviously a long shot but dont count it out. It was a far way up and didnt go into detail.

[ExAm]

If I remember correctly, the only time Reach burned was when the covenant attacked. Look at the fucking surface of that fucking planet. Does it look like it's not burning to you?

[thehoodedsmack]

Maybe they're just going with the fact that it looks cool...

Overanalysis ITT.

[Jean-Luc]

Maybe they're just going with the fact that it looks cool...

Overanalysis ITT.

Because Bungie would obviously have a planet burning and marines screaming "What the hell was that?!" for shits and giggles. kay.

[thehoodedsmack]

Because Bungie would obviously have a planet burning and marines screaming "What the hell was that?!" for shits and giggles. kay.

I meant all this speculation over why there's no visible ships, why the explosions do or don't look like whatever, etc. Kay?

[itszutak]

((((Covie ships)))

[[Camera (pointing at surface)]]


______Reach_______


That's how I picture that working. Lemme see the video again.

[=sw=warlord]

Am i the only one here remembering how fucking big a planet can be?
The largest ships we've seen in the halo series are only a few miles big and you are bitching about how we cannot see ships from hundreds of miles away?

[Masterz1337]

You can see the human ships though.

[=sw=warlord]

You can see the human ships though.only when the thing is close to the camera, if your going to destroy a planet do it right and make sure you dont miss, it's shown in halo 3 how the covenant used to glass planets, if their that sloe its pretty obivous you wont see the ships fromthat far out.

[Masterz1337]

You also don't glass a planet without destroying the defenses first. The display of events in the trailer make no sense. Also H3 isn't the best example of glassing, as all those ships appeared to be in the atmosphere, as well as the portal, even though that shouldn't be possible.

And Snaf, humans fought against forerunner machines on Onyx, same thing could happen on Reach.

[jngrow]

You also don't glass a planet without destroying the defenses first. The display of events in the trailer make no sense. Also H3 isn't the best example of glassing, as all those ships appeared to be in the atmosphere, as well as the portal, even though that shouldn't be possible.

And Snaf, humans fought against forerunner machines on Onyx, same thing could happen on Reach.
The first seconds of the trailer of reach say:

"You know the ending from the beginning", or something like that.

I'm pretty sure it's Covenant.



E:

Also, more on Natal. If they do this right, good-fucking-by Wii. All the Wii will have is its 5-ish mario/zelda/metroid games every 3-ish years, and it's low price point.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2009/06/project-natal/

Apparently it works pretty damn well.

[ExAm]

You people who think this isn't about the Covenant attack on Reach are either trolling or fucking stupid. Seriously. There was no continent-destroying war on Reach between humans.

[Masterz1337]

I think most likely that the game will be with Covies, but I the trailer seems to point to me in the opposite direction. I just don't see how it can be Covies based on the trailer and the established timeline. Unless the new game is going to retcon the books.

[Needles]

OH FUCK YES THE HALO 1 PISTOL IS BACK!!!!

I just had to do that, it really makes me wish halo 3:odst had it's own unique multiplayer.

[ExAm]

I just don't see how it can be Covies based on the trailer and the established timeline. Unless the new game is going to retcon the books.
...How?

[Advancebo]

OH FUCK YES THE HALO 1 PISTOL IS BACK!!!!

I just had to do that, it really makes me wish halo 3:odst had it's own unique multiplayer.

Technically that would be Firefight.

But adding a whole new multiplayer system to game similar to another would be a waste. People would probably start playing H3 ODST's multiplayer instead of H3. And that would lower sells.

[Masterz1337]

...How?

Which part?

[kid908]

Technically that would be Firefight.

But adding a whole new multiplayer system to game similar to another would be a waste. People would probably start playing H3 ODST's multiplayer instead of H3. And that would lower sells.

besides the fact that you neeed H3 to play ODST...it's an ADD-ON instead of a stand alone game from what i've heard. it wouldn't really lower sells but added another multiplayer section is also a waste.

[Bodzilla]

Yet everything in the trailer points to what going on as not Covenant. We know about when the Covies attacked, and how it went down. There's no way to explain how there's no visible Covie ships, explosions on the planet (plus the fires in spots where there are no explosions), no Plasma bombardments, and an accurate Slipspace jump past the defense platforms which wasn't possible for either side pre-first strike, so unless the trailer is bat shit bullshit, I'm leaning towards a Forerunner, Precursor, or a new faction we haven't heard about. My best bet is Forerunner, seeing as the explosions on the surface could be some kind of defense system, which also resulted in something using forerunner tech to do the accurate slipspace jump.
errggghh

[Heathen]

besides the fact that you neeed H3 to play ODST...it's an ADD-ON instead of a stand alone game from what i've heard. it wouldn't really lower sells but added another multiplayer section is also a waste.
if its a stand alone game, why is it coming with a disc of just halo 3's multiplayer?

[Gwunty]

METROID

[Jean-Luc]

You also don't glass a planet without destroying the defenses first. The display of events in the trailer make no sense. Also H3 isn't the best example of glassing, as all those ships appeared to be in the atmosphere, as well as the portal, even though that shouldn't be possible.
Even though the Truth and Reconciliation was hovering less than 40 meters above the surface of Halo, covenant ships were described multiple times hovering in-atmosphere in the books, and the Hammer of Dawn flew just fine in atmosphere in Halo 3.

Either I misinterpreted something, or you're making shit up to sound right.

[TVTyrant]

READ THIS SHIT ABOUT HALO:REACH

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33426706

As far as what time period it takes place in :mysterysolved:

[Masterz1337]

Even though the Truth and Reconciliation was hovering less than 40 meters above the surface of Halo, covenant ships were described multiple times hovering in-atmosphere in the books, and the Hammer of Dawn flew just fine in atmosphere in Halo 3.

Either I misinterpreted something, or you're making shit up to sound right.
I was thinking of the books when they talk about the dangers of flying a ship ina planets atmosphere, guess ships go go either way in the halo universe, although I find it hard to believe something made of metal that big wouldn't drop like a brick. Then again, it is sci-fi :p

[ExAm]

I was thinking of the books when they talk about the dangers of flying a ship ina planets atmosphere, guess ships go go either way in the halo universe, although I find it hard to believe something made of metal that big wouldn't drop like a brick. Then again, it is sci-fi :pThey can FLY in-atmosphere (LOL GRAVITY PROPULSION DRIVE), it's just dangerous to JUMP in-atmosphere. Case in point, New Mombasa.

[=sw=warlord]

You also don't glass a planet without destroying the defenses first. The display of events in the trailer make no sense. Also H3 isn't the best example of glassing, as all those ships appeared to be in the atmosphere, as well as the portal, even though that shouldn't be possible.

And Snaf, humans fought against forerunner machines on Onyx, same thing could happen on Reach.
Onyx was arround the time of halo 2 if i remember correctly so this was after the events of halo 1 where humans realised what the sentinels were, yes i realise halowars had sentinels but i doubt much was noted on it considering it was a single ship chasing after a wild goose.
I wouldnt be suprised if the gasses seen in halo 3 while the planet was glassed was due to the planet well being glassed, ever had a series of fires in one area before and see how much smoke drifts about?
Even IF the covenant ships were in orbit there would be little chance of actualy seeing the ships as their too damned small compared to the fucking planet their attacking.
These bombs that are going off...could be one of those bombs from halo 2 that destroyed those orbital platforms.

I was thinking of the books when they talk about the dangers of flying a ship ina planets atmosphere, guess ships go go either way in the halo universe, although I find it hard to believe something made of metal that big wouldn't drop like a brick. Then again, it is sci-fi :p
Planes are made of metal do thet drop out the sky like stones?
Boats are made out of metal do they sink like a elephant?
space shuttles are made out of metal do they just sit on the launch pad when launched?
No? then shut the fuck up.
Also when they say dangers of flying a ship in atomosthere they are probably more worried of bouncing off the atmosphere just like the space shuttle...for someone who talks alot about logic and being educated you sure are fucking uneducated.

[Masterz1337]

I'm an idiot for not seeing how something like this

http://www.doepkeonline.com/pillar-of-autumn.jpg

Can fly, comapared to
http://www.skycontrol.net/UserFiles/Image/BusinessGA_img/200703/200703boeing-777-200LR-worldliner.jpg
this?

Yeah, ask anyone with half a brain how the POA could possibly fly in an atmosphere (or SoF, even though it does). Granted, it's a series that contradicts itself at nearly every turn, so this whole "argument" about how ships can fly in atmosphere is pointless.

My theory is based on the fact,

The trailer contradicts what we've been told about glassing.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about Covie space flight.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about the Battle of Reach.

Either

A. They are retconing the Battle of Reach.
B. It's a new threat.
C. The trailer is not designed to be an accurate representation of what happened, and is only there to tease at the concept of a game about the invasion about Reach.


I'd say A and C are most likely, but I do think it's interesting that they would make that many mistakes on purpose, while keeping information on the game completely from the the public. All we know is that it's going to be an FPS, and it's coming out around the same time as the first of the Forerunner Trilogy. Unlikely to be a radically different game than we've played, yes. Impossible no.

[leorimolo]

That thing, flying in an atmosphere
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUcreY0X33k#t=0m06s

Masterz why in gods name would they name it halo reach if it has something to do with something completly different. Bungie just doesn't name their stuff random names to fuck with their fans.

[Masterz1337]

There could be another chain of event on Reach. We already know it has Forerunner sites on it. You're right, Bungie doesn't fuck with their fans, so what seems to be inconsistencies from the trailer are what make me think there is a lot more to this story than just "Covie invasion of Reach"

[Jean-Luc]

Yeah, ask anyone with half a brain how the POA could possibly fly in an atmosphere (or SoF, even though it does). Granted, it's a series that contradicts itself at nearly every turn, so this whole "argument" about how ships can fly in atmosphere is pointless. All UNSC and Covenant ships have a system of thrusters on the hulls of their spacecraft. While also used for precision station keeping, they could also be used to keep the weight of the ship aloft during the deployment of ground forces. Also, when it comes to planes, you'll notice they don't fly until they're moving at a fast enough speed, and the same thing goes for a ship. The Pillar of Autumn would not break atmosphere, or even several thousand feet if it wasn't moving fast enough to start pushing against the force of gravity, regardless of the thrusters on the hull.

My theory is based on the fact,

The trailer contradicts what we've been told about glassing. They never said the planet was being glassed now did they, it's just what we think is happening based on the books. I do not believe that was the glassing of the planet, as the explosions were far more massive than anything Covenant ships could produce in a singular detonation.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about Covie space flight. Not necessarily. Also, Planetary glassing, assuming that's what was shown, always took place from just above the upper atmosphere, and we were never zoomed in THAT far in the trailer to actually see any ships.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about the Battle of Reach. We never heard anything about what the battle was like when it started, so it isn't contradicting anything. In the books, all the action took place midway through the battle, so we don't know what kind of Covenant/Forerunner weaponry were used at the very start.

Either

A. They are retconing the Battle of Reach.
B. It's a new threat.
C. The trailer is not designed to be an accurate representation of what happened, and is only there to tease at the concept of a game about the invasion about Reach.


I'd say A and C are most likely, but I do think it's interesting that they would make that many mistakes on purpose I didn't see any "mistakes.", while keeping information on the game completely from the the public. All we know is that it's going to be an FPS, and it's coming out around the same time as the first of the Forerunner Trilogy. Unlikely to be a radically different game than we've played, yes. Impossible no.
.

[Masterz1337]

Firefly OVERLOAAAAADDDDD

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211451/

Go to 1:08.

[Jean-Luc]

Do want an HD direct-feed of that. Now.

[StankBacon]

oshiiiiiiiiiiiii

it even looks like him.

[BobtheGreatII]

You know, I knew they were doing the voices... but that's just awesome.

I think they could have used all of the firefly cast and it wouldn't have bothered me at all.

[LinkandKvel]

mmmmmmmmmmm am I the only one that believes this could take place after the events of Halo 3 cuz it looks exactly like that planet MC was drifting towards.

[BobtheGreatII]

mmmmmmmmmmm am I the only one that believes this could take place after the events of Halo 3 cuz it looks exactly like that planet MC was drifting towards.

Um, yes you are...

It's clearly New Mombassa, as they have said over and over. They can't just lie about that.

[Jean-Luc]

mmmmmmmmmmm am I the only one that believes this could take place after the events of Halo 3 cuz it looks exactly like that planet MC was drifting towards.
Owait, you were talking about Reach. That said, Reach was glassed before the first Halo game, thereby, it couldn't be what was shown at the end of Halo 3

[LinkandKvel]

Um, yes you are...

It's clearly New Mombassa, as they have said over and over. They can't just lie about that.


Yes, because Bungie has confirmed that it takes place during the events of Halo 2, and in the flashbacks, weeks before.wow i was talking about halo: reach

[Jean-Luc]

wow i was talking about halo: reach
Probably should have mentioned this beforehand, considering we were all talking about ODST at the time. Regardless, I edited my post and you're still the only one thinking that.

[BobtheGreatII]

wow i was talking about halo: reach

Next time you should say that. lol

And no, Because if it's the same Reach that has been talked about, this is going to take place before Halo 1...

Edit: Fuck Jean, get out of my thread. <:mad:>

[Jean-Luc]

Next time you should say that. lol

And no, Because if it's the same Reach that has been talked about, this is going to take place before Halo 1...
"From the beginning, you know the end."
It's a prequel, pure and simple.

[LinkandKvel]

isn't there still spartans alive on a planet I thought was reach but which one? I've only read the fall of reach but i coulda swore i read about a spartan team MIA somewhere. Well i'm not sure if I'll automatically assume it's a prequel only because it's TOO obvious. I'd like to believe they're actually planning something surprising but hey it's bungie. Probably will be a prequel.

[Jean-Luc]

Well i'm not sure if I'll automatically assume it's a prequel only because it's TOO obvious.
...WHAT?

Not following your logic here.

[LinkandKvel]

...WHAT?

Not following your logic here.
I'm NOT going to assume it's a prequel because it's too obvious. I'd rather like to believe they're gonna surprise us but i doubt it.

[=sw=warlord]

Yeah, ask anyone with half a brain how the POA could possibly fly in an atmosphere (or SoF, even though it does). Granted, it's a series that contradicts itself at nearly every turn, so this whole "argument" about how ships can fly in atmosphere is pointless.

My theory is based on the fact,

The trailer contradicts what we've been told about glassing.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about Covie space flight.
The trailer contracticts what we've been told about the Battle of Reach.

Well i guess that count's you out, you like to pretend you know things when you don't, you've shown this many times recently.
Before you accuse me of trolling again, Don't.
The pillar of autumn or any ship that has been classified for in atmosphere flight would presumeably beable to you know, fly in atmosphere otherwise why would captain keyes land the ship on halo and why or how could the covenant repair truth and reconcilliation so it could fly again?

[Masterz1337]

Oh man tough guy on the internet!!!

Generally speaking, spaceships are for flying in space. But hey, like I said earlier, Halo constantly contradicts it'self. The books say one thing, the games say other. So why are you trying to argue when there's not even an answer?

Yet, you're trying to throw my whole theory out on the basis "ships can fly in atmosphere," when you haven't even bothered to address any of my other points.

This thread is for E32009, if you want to continue this make another thread or we can take this over PMs, rather than derail this thread..

[ExAm]

Oh man tough guy on the internet!!!

Generally speaking, spaceships are for flying in space. But hey, like I said earlier, Halo constantly contradicts it'self.
The books, none of it has EVER SAID that ships CANNOT FLY IN-ATMOSPHERE. The ONLY thing that has EVER been said about the Halo universe's ships is that they cannot JUMP in-atmosphere FOR SAFETY REASONS. THAT IS IT.

Jesus christ, man, this is science fiction we're talking about. SHIPS ARE CAPABLE OF ANTIGRAVITY. IT'S A GIVEN. It's assumed that they are unless the story explicitly states otherwise. Halo has never stated that ships cannot fly in-atmosphere.

[klange]

I'm NOT going to assume it's a prequel because it's too obvious. I'd rather like to believe they're gonna surprise us but i doubt it.
... they already said Reach takes place during the Battle of Reach on the planet Reach. They even specifically mentioned "oh, yeah, that happens before Combat Evolved." just in case you forgot.

If there's one thing Bungie doesn't do, it's blatantly lie.

e: In Halo 2 and Halo 3 they flew a bunch of ships in-atmosphere, and they talk about doing it quite a bit in the books.

[JunkfoodMan]

Oh man tough guy on the internet!!!

Generally speaking, spaceships are for flying in space. But hey, like I said earlier, Halo constantly contradicts it'self. The books say one thing, the games say other. So why are you trying to argue when there's not even an answer?

Yet, you're trying to throw my whole theory out on the basis "ships can fly in atmosphere," when you haven't even bothered to address any of my other points.

This thread is for E32009, if you want to continue this make another thread or we can take this over PMs, rather than derail this thread..

Didn't that pre-halo 3 release video like Arms race or something show a POA-like ship flying in-atmosphere?

Furthermore, I don't recall warlord acting like an ITG.

[=sw=warlord]

Furthermore, I don't recall warlord acting like an ITG.
If anything im more of a Dalek nut than a ITG.

[SnaFuBAR]

Masters, yet again, pulling bullshit out of nowhere to support his take on a subject, despite the facts being blatantly out there, in text, against him. He says something really fucking dumb, then can't admit it because he's too prideful, ignorant and stupid. Always on about how everyone else should change, while he exhibits a nasty character flaw.

Masters, you have (yet again) been proven wrong on all accounts. Do you have the fucking balls to admit it? DO YOU?

[flibitijibibo]

Hey, can we either move this flamewar to the Halo: Reach thread or just delete it? This is getting annoying (again).

On the thread's topic, I noticed there was a lot of stuff about the New Super Mario Bros., but not about Mario Galaxy 2. Didn't they have a demo for both?

[Boba]

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/7028/forwardintodawn.jpg

look jem theres a spacecraft flyin' in atmosphere!

woah scout that's just boo radley tryin' to spook us

[Masterz1337]

I was thinking of the books when they talk about the dangers of flying a ship ina planets atmosphere, guess ships go go either way in the halo universe, although I find it hard to believe something made of metal that big wouldn't drop like a brick. Then again, it is sci-fi :p
Jeeze guys, I already admitted I was wrong, as Jean obviously proved I was mistaken.

[Roostervier]

You never said you were wrong, you only implied it. I believe what snaf was looking for was a statement from you saying, "I am wrong."

[Atty]

SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL OF YOU

If you all continue to argue I will ban all of you, except Masters, becuase he'd find some way to martyr himself with it and I'd be forced to deal with an even bigger increase in his ego.

[Masterz1337]

bu-bu-bu-bu-but if I admit I was wrong how will my ego ever be the same?

I was wrong

[Boba]

SHUT THE FUCK UP ALL OF YOU

If you all continue to argue I will ban all of you, except Masters, becuase he'd find some way to martyr himself with it and I'd be forced to deal with an even bigger increase in his ego.
well atticus i didn't go off meanin' all kinds of offense, jem just seemed to be off galavantin'

[Needles]

Firefly OVERLOAAAAADDDDD

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211451/

Go to 1:08.

Is it just me, or do the moving animations in the first cut scene remind anyone of robot chicken?

[BobtheGreatII]

I don't know if it was that that bugged me so much, but all their faces looked cartoon-like to me.

[Jean-Luc]

I don't know if it was that that bugged me so much, but all their faces looked cartoon-like to me.
This is Bungie we're talking about here. They don't make realistic humans.

[teh lag]

I don't know if it was that that bugged me so much, but all their faces looked cartoon-like to me.

Ditto. I really didn't like that at all. It just didn't feel... right... compared to what I've gotten used to in the other games.


This is Bungie we're talking about here. They don't make realistic humans.

I think it was a bit more pronounced here, though. That or it could be the bad quality of recording off the screen messing with my perception.

[thehoodedsmack]

Macho talk and sexual tension. Great.

[nooBBooze]

Is it just me, or do the moving animations in the first cut scene remind anyone of robot chicken?
Oh god he's right.
Plus the dialogue seemed exceptionally cheesy. Even for halo standards.

[Needles]

Oh god he's right.
Plus the dialogue seemed exceptionally cheesy. Even for halo standards.

Yeah, they seriously need to fix the animation and character's look.

I lol'd at how the first cut scene looked like some cheesy robot-chicken skit. Just paste on one of those paper mouth things they use in the show and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference =P.

[klange]

Could be that the cutscene sequences are incomplete / just rough draft.

[BobtheGreatII]

Could be that the cutscene sequences are incomplete / just rough draft.

Unlikely. During the Bungie podcast, they were saying that ODST is pretty much final except for looking for bugs.

[Corndogman]

Thought about Reach:

Perhaps you just play through the story of the fall of reach, as a spartan most likely, whether it be 117 or not. The campaign plays until the planet is glassed, then does a "___ years later" thing. You pick up where halo 3 left off, the planet is Reach, and you end up rescuing the lost spartans from when the planet was glassed or something.

Personally, I think that would be fucking awesome.

[Jean-Luc]

In the books, iirc, the surviving Spartans were all rescued before the events in Halo 2.

[Corndogman]

While that may be true, this was never talked about in the games, and if they were, wouldn't they have been in halo 2? It could still be possible, as it would still fit with the storyline of the games, but not the books.

[PenGuin1362]

Yeah don't they all end up on onyx or something like that? i havent read them in years.

[Jean-Luc]

While that may be true, this was never talked about in the games, and if they were, wouldn't they have been in halo 2? It could still be possible, as it would still fit with the storyline of the games, but not the books.
Personally, I doubt Bungie would go against what happens in the books. That would annoy a lot of fans, and potentially the authors.

[LinkandKvel]

... they already said Reach takes place during the Battle of Reach on the planet Reach. They even specifically mentioned "oh, yeah, that happens before Combat Evolved." just in case you forgot.I can't forget something I never heard. I didn't actually see the conference, I just saw the trailers.