Pakistans Nuclear Arsenal at risk of caputure by Taliban

[Disaster]

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/04/world/asia/04nuke.html?_r=1&ref=world

Wow. This country is in severe turmoil. Taliban spreading through the country.
Especially when they have captured towns that are only 60 miles from the capital.

This would be devastating to the world if the Taliban got their hands on the weapons as they could give the arms to countries like Iran or North Korea in exchange for large sums of money or even use them their selves if they can get their hands on the missile technology.

[Sel]

They're not going to trade it, they're going to fire everything at the US.

[RecycleBin]

Oh god, please no.
Don't give the Taliban that kind of weapon.

[FRain]

The major problem wouldn't be a ICBM or even a cruise missile, as we have ABMS and stuff that can deflect/intercept that. The big problem here is for a low-profile sneaking a nuke into a building or even a snuke in a major population area.

[Disaster]

The major problem wouldn't be a ICBM or even a cruise missile, as we have ABMS and stuff that can deflect/intercept that. The big problem here is for a low-profile sneaking a nuke into a building or even a snuke in a major population area.
Yeah but other countries that aren't as fortunate to have missile defenses are at severe risk. Missile defenses aren't always successful as well.

[MetKiller Joe]

void main(){
if(theyHaveNukes){
if(theySayTheyWillUseThem)
a_super_power_will_bomb_them();
if(theyUse && !theySayTheyWillUseThem){
a_super_power_will_counter_it();
a_super_power_will_come_into_pakistan();
}
if(!theySayTheyWillUseThem && !theyUse)
DO_NOTHING_B/C_ECONOMY_IS_ALREADY_IN_TOILET();
}
}

[thehoodedsmack]

... did you just C\C++ a doomsday scenario... =__=

[FRain]

LMAO!

[MetKiller Joe]

... did you just Javascript C\C++ a doomsday scenario... =__=
..mmm mebe.

[flibitijibibo]

Not a multiclass writer eh? Also, a couple elses and block moves could shorten it a slight. Goddamnit, I need to put my time to better use...

import java.util.Scanner;
public class bombThreat {
static Power taliban;
static Power superPower = new Power("Super Power", true, false, false);
public static void main(String[] str){
System.out.println("Welcome to the Taliban Threat Interpreter. Written by flibitijibibo");
System.out.println("");
getData();
System.out.println("");
System.out.println("And heeeeeeeeeeeere we go...");
System.out.println("");
interpretThreat();
System.out.println("TEH EDN");
}
public static void getData(){
Scanner sc = new Scanner(System.in);
System.out.println("Do they have bombs? (\"true\" for yes, \"false\" for no)");
boolean bombs = sc.nextBoolean();
System.out.println("Have they said that they will bomb someone? (\"true\" for yes, \"false\" for no)");
boolean intent = sc.nextBoolean();
System.out.println("Have they attempted to bomb someone? (\"true\" for yes, \"false\" for no)");
boolean bombed = sc.nextBoolean();
taliban = new Power("Taliban", bombs, intent, bombed);
}
public static void interpretThreat(){
if (taliban.hasBombs){
if (taliban.hasBombed){
superPower.counter(taliban);
superPower.bomb(taliban);
}
else if (taliban.saysBomb)
superPower.bomb(taliban);
}
}
}

public class Power {
public String powerName;
public boolean hasBombs;
public boolean saysBomb;
public boolean hasBombed;
Power(String name, boolean bombs, boolean intent, boolean bombed){
powerName = name;
hasBombs = bombs;
saysBomb = intent;
hasBombed = bombed;
}
public void bomb(Power victim){
System.out.println(powerName + ": " + "See you in hell, " + victim.powerName + ".");
saysBomb = true;
System.out.println("*Launching noise*");
hasBombed = true;
}
public void counter(Power threat){
System.out.println(powerName + ": *Catch bomb* Fuck you, " + threat.powerName + ".");
}
}

[Mass]

Pakistani and American forces will bomb cities to the ground and kill civilians in the millions to root out insurgents before they let anyone near the bases.

Of all the things that don't get acted on in the world, the keystone of American economic and political hegemony is hardly a concern.

[DarkHalo003]

This has always worried me since the moment I learned about Pakistan having nukes. It's far too dangerous to even have nukes anymore, a small nuclear war in the middle east could send us into a nuclear winter.

I agree Mass, the last thing I care about is Obama's pet dog.

[Maniac]

If India thinks for 1 second that any extremists could end up having control of Pakistans wmd's they would nuke them as fast as you can say Dirty Kashmir wool.

[Disaster]

If India thinks for 1 second that any extremists could end up having control of Pakistans wmd's they would nuke them as fast as you can say Dirty Kashmir wool.
And end up starting ww3 a nuclear war that will kill millions in the process over something that "could" happen?

[Huero]

And end up starting ww3 a nuclear war that will kill millions in the process over something that "could" happen?
*billions
i seriously doubt it would end with india nuking pakistan

[Disaster]

*billions
i seriously doubt it would end with india nuking pakistan
My point exactly.

[Maniac]

And end up starting ww3 a nuclear war that will kill millions in the process over something that "could" happen?
Yup.

[Amit]

Jesus fuck. This is going to turn into COD4 minus Zakhaev real soon.

[Heathen]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

[DEElekgolo]

beep();

[Jean-Luc]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

This is english? :smith:

[thehoodedsmack]

You're in the wrong thread, Heathen.

[TVTyrant]

Heres the thing, even if they get to the bases the weapons, they:
1.Have to be able to access the technology to fire it, which I'm highly doubtful that religious extremists who root from farming communities with no running water understand anyways.
2.Have to have a a successful enough assault to actually capture these bases. The bases are most likely the most heavily defended zones in Pakistan. RPGs , AKs, and wild charges does not a successful siege mission make.
3.They will have to deal with American air support, which will fuck the hell out of them. The Apache is insane, as is the A-10 Warthog, and both of which are stationed in, and deployable from Afghanistan.
4.Deal with India and every other country hitting the "oshi- WW3" button and burning Pakistan to nothing, an action that will probably have NO REPERCUSSIONS because it would be done with world safety in mind. Its not like any of the Taliban's allies are equipped with weapons of mass destruction. Its a grass roots oranization. Most likely, some hippies will bitch, and then our generation will be all like "Hey remember when they nuked Pakistan?"

[Heathen]

You're in the wrong thread, Heathen.

nope

[Disaster]

Heres the thing, even if they get to the bases the weapons, they:
1.Have to be able to access the technology to fire it, which I'm highly doubtful that religious extremists who root from farming communities with no running water understand anyways.
No but I'm pretty sure they can figure it out. Most of it should be handled by computers anyways. Which aren't that hard to understand.
2.Have to have a a successful enough assault to actually capture these bases. The bases are most likely the most heavily defended zones in Pakistan. RPGs , AKs, and wild charges does not a successful siege mission make.
Especially when the country is in turmoil and there are insiders in the military and government who support the Taliban. They also understand military tactics enough to capture countries.
3.They will have to deal with American air support, which will fuck the hell out of them. The Apache is insane, as is the A-10 Warthog, and both of which are stationed in, and deployable from Afghanistan.
Pakistan hasn't allowed us to know where their nuclear facilities are.
4.Deal with India and every other country hitting the "oshi- WW3" button and burning Pakistan to nothing, an action that will probably have NO REPERCUSSIONS because it would be done with world safety in mind. Its not like any of the Taliban's allies are equipped with weapons of mass destruction. Its a grass roots oranization. Most likely, some hippies will bitch, and then our generation will be all like "Hey remember when they nuked Pakistan?"
The Taliban have connections with Iran.
Answers in bold.

[TVTyrant]

No but I'm pretty sure they can figure it out. Most of it should be handled by computers anyways. Which aren't that hard to understand. They aren't, thats true. But how are they going to hack the safety codings, and find out how to actually initiate launch, if its a missile. And if its a bomb, we'd just destroy every plane in Pakistan.

Especially when the country is in turmoil and there are insiders in the military and government who support the Taliban. And that means the bases aren't defended? Or that the soldiers wont fight to defend themselves?

Pakistan hasn't allowed us to know where there nuclear facilities are. I think we could figure it out pretty easily when we wanted too.

The Taliban has connections with Iran. Who, even if they have a bomb, most likely dont have a delivery system. And the fact that if Iran tried to launch anything, we'd scramble jets from air bases in Iraq, fuck the living shit out of it, and prevent its usage.
Responses in bold sir.

[Spartan094]

"It's not what weapons will be fought with in World War III, its that World War 4 will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein

what if this comes true like what Einstein said?:raise:

[Advancebo]

I think this is appropriate:
http://www.amazingsuperpowers.com/COMICvoteordie.gif

[RecycleBin]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

Cool 4chan quote, bro!

[=sw=warlord]

This has always worried me since the moment I learned about Pakistan having nukes. It's far too dangerous to even have nukes anymore, a small nuclear war in the middle east could send us into a nuclear winter.

I agree Mass, the last thing I care about is Obama's pet dog.
Sod the nuclear winter, im more concerned of the grade of these bombs, get a high enough grade and you could possibly cause the atmosthere to catch fire.

[sdavis117]

Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

The only thing from 4chan that I actually ever really found funny.



do
for object x= Taliban to al-Queda
if nukepossession(x)=1
then respond with big ass bombs
delete object x
endif
next x
loop
Best to have a code in every language. You can never know which one the universe runs on.

[nooBBooze]

So is this an actual concern or just the backup plan in case Iran doesn't live up to the hype?

[sdavis117]

Actual concern. The difference between Pakistan and Iran is that Iran is trying to get theoretical nukes (which they say they aren't, and they may not be for all we know), while the Taliban is just a few miles away from real nukes that the whole world has known about for years.

I wouldn't be that worried about a direct attack at America. I would be worried though about the tens of thousands of troops we have stationed within firing range of those nukes. I don't think body armor was designed to protect against nukes.

[nooBBooze]

I don't think some random impoverished peasants have the firepower and cryptographic skills to accses let alone launch these nukes but it makes me wonder if Pakistan is being spinned as the new common enemy the US so desperatly needs or if that's really just consequence of the mess they made in the Middle East.
Luckily I don't care about US troops so I think I'm just gonna skip this bandwagon.

[SnaFuBAR]

Sod the nuclear winter, im more concerned of the grade of these bombs, get a high enough grade and you could possibly cause the atmosthere to catch fire.
:giggle:

[=sw=warlord]

:giggle:
:eyesroll:

[Phopojijo]

Actual concern. The difference between Pakistan and Iran is that Iran is trying to get theoretical nukes (which they say they aren't, and they may not be for all we know), while the Taliban is just a few miles away from real nukes that the whole world has known about for years.

I wouldn't be that worried about a direct attack at America. I would be worried though about the tens of thousands of troops we have stationed within firing range of those nukes. I don't think body armor was designed to protect against nukes.Like they have sufficient body armor anyway...

[sdavis117]

Like they have sufficient body armor anyway...

Touchè.

[rossmum]

Honestly I'm not sure if even the Taliban are stupid/zealous enough to actually use nukes against Western nations. I know they're not exactly dreading death, but surely even they would realise how utterly pointless it'd be? The retaliation would be insane, and what good is it smiting your enemy a little bit if he just proceeds to turn you, all your followers, and all of their land into one motherfucker of a smoking crater?

[Bodzilla]

think of the virgins rossmum

[n00b1n8R]

But if you have to spend eternity with them, they won't really be virgins for long vOv

[rossmum]

think of the virgins rossmum
Overrated.

Not to mention the Crimson Chin here makes a bloody good point.

[Maniac]

but what if.
http://therapysessions.blogspot.com/no_virgins.jpg

[PlasbianX]

think of the virgins rossmum

Read the fine print :< its 17 year old nerdy male virgins.

Do not want.

[SnaFuBAR]

Actually the whole virgins thing is actually a western media lie, there's nothing remotely close to that ever even promised.

[Disaster]

Honestly I'm not sure if even the Taliban are stupid/zealous enough to actually use nukes against Western nations. I know they're not exactly dreading death, but surely even they would realise how utterly pointless it'd be? The retaliation would be insane, and what good is it smiting your enemy a little bit if he just proceeds to turn you, all your followers, and all of their land into one motherfucker of a smoking crater?
They think Allah will save them. Thats how crazy these sons of a bitches are.


sarcasm