So Terminator Salvation :(

[Masterz1337]

So my friends and I saw the midnight Premier last night, and I've never felt so sorry for a movie before. I've been following the movie a while, and It didn't live up to any of the hype, other than the action scenes, which are like separated by 10 minutes of actual story. Interestingly enough, for a film who's director and stars said that they wanted to do the movie after serious script revisions, and making it a story where you could remove the special effects and action and still have a compelling movie, it fell flat on it's face.

So then I decided to read the novelization, and all I can say is WOW. The book based on the screenplay was compelling and and exciting, and if the movie were like the book, I would have put this movie in my top 20 favorites.

Hopefully the directors cut will be on the DVD, but until then, I wouldn't go bother to see the movie because you'll just be disappointed. The studious obviously decided to rape it, to make it a 2 hour movie to get as many people in and out of the theater. They even cut some of the action sequences, and the ending was different than in the script/novel.

Oh, and I got the game too. It's pretty fun and plays a lot like gears, but it is short. Unless you plan to make it the co-op game you play when you have a buddy over, it's not worth buying, but it is worth the rental, as it really is fun and won't leave you disapointed..

[Heathen]

:/ well I JUST saw the commercials and was like...."ew that looks like its going to suck alot of cock."

Glad I was right.

E: your avatar looks like shit in source.
Just fyi.

[Joshflighter]

E: your avatar looks like shit in source.
Just fyi.

And Face book.


Also, blah, I am planning on waiting till Transformers comes in theaters.. Till then, not going.

[Heathen]

And Face book.


Also, blah, I am planning on waiting till Transformers comes in theaters.. Till then, not going.
Face book?

I know you can, but how do you apply themes that aren't provided?

[PopeAK49]

The second one, Terminator: Judgment day, T2, or whatever you like to call it was the best one ever.

[Donut]

how similar is the game to gears? i saw it and right away i knew it looked a shitton like gears, and i was pretty sure i saw a clip of gameplay with an m249 saw, which = :woop:
as you said, coop would be fun with a buddy, and iv got that buddy who loves to play gears with me

[Needles]

Heh, it has shitty reviews too.

[sdavis117]

Shit, I was actually looking forward to this movie.

[STLRamsFan]

Same here... I'll still see it but I'll probably bring my brother along so we can point out all the flaws in it, as we do in every movie we go to. :haw:

[Longshot]

I've mostly heard mixed reviews, it's doing pretty well on imdb right now with an 8.3/10 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0438488/), I'm still going to see it when it opens here.


The second one, Terminator: Judgment day, T2, or whatever you like to call it was the best one ever.
That's my favourite movie of all time! :D

[Mr Buckshot]

Heh, it has shitty reviews too.

I wouldn't let the opinions of these "professional" reviewers influence my decision of whether or not to watch the movie.

Those reviewers are too damn nitpicky, always pointing out what's lacking and shit, without realizing that this is meant to be an action film and most of us watch it to see shit get blown up, not to see major character development or any of that in-depth stuff.

It's like the Doom (2005) and Rambo (2008) movies, the professional critics slammed them but I had lots of fun watching them - because I wasn't searching for the same things that those critics were.

And yeah imdb is a better representation of general opinion than Rotten Tomatoes, because imdb ratings mostly come from "common laymen" like me, who watch for fun, not to analyze.

Gonna see it on Monday, probably.

[Higuy]

I'm gonna go see it tomorrow with a couple of friends... I hope its ok at least..
Still T2 has been my favorite. Except in that part in T3 were he picks up the coffin full of weapons and shoots all the cops and stuff =p

[Segnaro]

It sucked , went to see it also because of Michael Ironside. Starship Troopers , Total Recall , anyone?

The action was fun sometimes but plot holes galore and i felt like i was watching that Transformers shitfest with those new huge loud robots.

[Mr Buckshot]

Yeah T2 was definitely my favorite of the three I already saw. Not gonna expect that much from Terminator Salvation, just watching it for the action.

[NuggetWarmer]

When you compare this one to the last movie made, holy hell is this way better.

I went to see the midnight release with my pals, and we all enjoyed it. I found it really interesting and well designed. There were a few parts that I got lost at, but that happens with just about every movie.

Overall, good movie, needs revision.

[BobtheGreatII]

I'm going to go see it this upcoming Monday...

[mech]

This movie was terrible, CG was great though.

[ThePlague]

Seeing it tomorrow, at least I don't have to spend money for it :p

I'll see how it is first hand.

[jngrow]

It sucked , went to see it also because of Michael Ironside. Starship Troopers , Total Recall , anyone?

The action was fun sometimes but plot holes galore and i felt like i was watching that Transformers shitfest with those new huge loud robots.

I'm pretty sure every Terminator has these.

[Masterz1337]

I'm sick of anyone who makes a big deal over the Harvester being like a transformer. It's in what? A 3 minute sequence of the film?

The only plot holes not explained by the novel/script were why the T-800 kept toying with John, and why they wanted John and Kyle Reese.

[NuggetWarmer]

They wanted Kyle Reese because they knew he was John's father, and John was the leader of the resistance.

unless that's not what you wanted, I may have misunderstood your last statement, Masterz.

[Masterz1337]

No, it's obvious about that, but how would they suddenly know all of a sudden who he is and his significance. Also, wouldn't they continue to hunt him and John long after the movie ended?

[kid908]

seems interesting but every movie with hype will get negative reviews cuz it "didn't live up to the hype."

still going to see it, but i want to know why front line T-800 are human form. I get the undercover T-800 but not the front line ones. Skynet have some issues...you want to kill your creator to replace them with metallic versions of them.:fail:

[leorimolo]

You guys just ruined all my expectations for this movie I was really looking forward to it :(

[=sw=warlord]

No, it's obvious about that, but how would they suddenly know all of a sudden who he is and his significance. Also, wouldn't they continue to hunt him and John long after the movie ended?
Maybe the documents from sarah connors psychiactric therapy was found by skynet on some lost intranet system and skynet realized the importance of the information?
There's many explainations that could be used.

[ThePlague]

It was a pretty good movie, at least I thought so. I didn't care about finding bad points about it, I just enjoyed it :p

[Higuy]

I saw yesterday night.. It was really good and action packed imo, except for the fact I want with 7 other friends and 3 of them were girls and were talking the entire time.. :v:

[kid908]

just saw it like 3 hours ago. pretty good but the ending was pretty cheesy... Arnold was only on screen for 5 second WTF, CGI Arnold was on screen for 5 second and just b/c of that it shouldn't even be considered a terminator movie.

[TeeKup]

I saw yesterday night.. It was really good and action packed imo, except for the fact I want with 7 other friends and 3 of them were girls and were talking the entire time.. :v:

I hate going to the movies with my girlfriends. They wouldn't shut the fuck up in wolverine and it pissed me off.

[Hotrod]

just saw it like 3 hours ago. pretty good but the ending was pretty cheesy... Arnold was only on screen for 5 second WTF, CGI Arnold was on screen for 5 second and just b/c of that it shouldn't even be considered a terminator movie.
What's the point of that then? CGI Arnold for 5 seconds? That's just silly...

[LesserOf2Evils]

I enjoyed it. First terminator movie I've seen so that may have helped. Worth the 9.50$ though.

[LinkandKvel]

Dude. Fucking Marcus Wright is BEAST!!!

I know he's a terminator but goddamn

[kid908]

What's the point of that then? CGI Arnold for 5 seconds? That's just silly...

ye...the last fighting part is the only part that made it terminator movie. from what i gathered, the entire movie is them chasing after skynet which isn't very terminatorish to me. i wanted to see their asses fall back and a full scale skynet vs resistance battle like the beginning of the first movie (which i have and is totally worth the 10$$).

also i didn't leave to go to the restroom cuz i didn't want to miss any of the explosions. LMAO i had to go so bad when the movie was done.:rolleyes:


Marcus Wright wasn't a terminator silly. He was a death roll inmate that got executed.

[Corndogman]

So I was avoiding this thread until I saw the movie, because I didn't want to taint my expectations of the movie.

I didn't let myself get caught up in all the hype, I was pretty much expecting it to be a bad-ass action movie with not much plot. That was exactly what I got, so I wasn't really disappointed.

My opinion: If your looking for a sweet action movie to to keep you excited throughout the whole thing, go see it, you will probably enjoy. If your looking for some dramatic masterpiece, you will be severely disappointed.

I tend to go see movies anyways when people are saying that it is a disappointment. Same reason I saw Wolverine, I didn't really think it would be great, but I wanted to see if for myself.

[Masterz1337]

Anyone else get to play the game yet? I forgot to put in my OP that the game's music is totally badass, it's nothing original, but its full of so many remixes and revisions of original terminator themes. I actually think the game had a better soundtrack than the movie actually.

[=sw=warlord]

I love how alot of people hated Terminator 3 when it had an ending like this..
LKTkEGLA-os
Out of the terminator films i preffered T3 hopefully TS will be just as good as T3.
I might be going with a few friends at the weekend to see the film should be good fun.

[Rob Oplawar]

I just saw it. I went in with low expectations, which were met. I thought it was a fun action romp type thing (better than Wolverine, anyway) but its plot was so awful I found it better to pretend it had little to nothing to do with the previous 2 (Terminator 3, you say? Que? No hablo ingles.) (actually, that's not fair, Terminator 3 was pretty decent too).

My review is: The first sequence after the credits, the one starting with the guided missile and cumulating in the helicopter crash, was fantastic, and the whole movie went steadily downhill from there.

[Cortexian]

Seen it in theaters twice now, though I don't see what's so horrible about it...

[Rob Oplawar]

Well, I mean, it's an okay movie, it's just another one of the generic brainless plot-hole-filled action romp movies that come out every summer. It's entertaining, but to me it's in the same way that The Island was entertaining. I enjoyed watching it once in the theaters, but unlike the first two Terminator movies, I probably won't watch it again, let alone fondly watch it for the 100th time 20 years after it came out.

[RecycleBin]

You know Christian Bale is mad when he starts doing his batman voice.

[PopeAK49]

From what i gathered, the entire movie is them chasing after skynet which isn't very terminatorish to me.

Wtf? That's the whole point to the terminator story line. Except for the first movie which was basically running away from the terminator and saving sarah. The second movie was trying to bring down cyber dyne or whatever it's called so judgment day wouldn't occur. The third movie was basically stopping skynet from rising but it was too late, and the terminator series on t.v, all they do is try diffrent ways to stop skynet from rising. So i guess every movie except the first one isn't very terminatorish?

[Sel]

Seen it in theaters twice now, though I don't see what's so horrible about it...

Maybe if you weren't a barbarian and had taste then you would!

[DEElekgolo]

Have to throw this out there. Why did everything have a USB port? Its the year 2018 and they still use those? Sure are universal.

[mech]

Well, I don't see technology advancing much when you've been getting butt fucked by terminators for the past decade.

[Rob Oplawar]

Oh yeah, don't get me started on how grossly incompetent Skynet and all the terminators are. A self-destruct device would be a must-have on these machines, and leaving them vulnerable to attack by standard interfaces such as USB is downright absurd. For humans, standard interfaces are a must-have to reduce confusion and allow customization, but for machines designing machines with extremely specific purposes, each interface should at the very least have an element of randomization to make each type of machine, or even each individual machine, unique. You don't put all your eggs in one basket.

It would be impossible to make the machines immune to hacking, but in the computer security/hacking world, you do everything you can to make things harder for the hacker, to give you more time to respond to their attack or to discourage it altogether.

Plus, what the hell was with Skynet having all these visual and manual interfaces? Ok, perhaps the facility they infiltrated was originally built by humans, but in nearly a decade and a half the machines had plenty of time to remove such a vulnerable avenue of access when they themselves had absolutely no use for it.

As for the terminators, in short they have terrible aim, are idiotic in moving deliberately slowly when they are perfectly capable of rapid gaits, and are simply incompetent for grabbing and throwing instead of grabbing and tearing/pummeling/crushing, all of which are well within their capabilities.


So again, fun action movie, but so full of plot holes it isn't even funny.

(e: of course, the first two terminator movies suffered the same problem of gross incompetence. Bad aim, slow moving for the sake of dramatic effect, and throwing when the fight could be over with one quick crunch. We forgive those because the plot didn't necessarily hinge on the machines being incompetent, ie, those incompetencies could have been removed and the plot would have still worked, whereas with this latest one the only way they could possibly win the way they did is if Skynet were essentially stupid.)

[jngrow]

I totally agree with the above post. I mentioned the human interface thing to my sister when I saw it. There would be none whatsoever. Especially not in English.

But yeah, despite various annoying inaccuracies/extremely unlikely shit (I wouldn't really call them plot holes), I still enjoyed it, lots of fun action scenarios, and nice to finally see the T-800s with some proper CG.

[LinkandKvel]

Oh yeah, don't get me started on how grossly incompetent Skynet and all the terminators are. A self-destruct device would be a must-have on these machines, and leaving them vulnerable to attack by standard interfaces such as USB is downright absurd. For humans, standard interfaces are a must-have to reduce confusion and allow customization, but for machines designing machines with extremely specific purposes, each interface should at the very least have an element of randomization to make each type of machine, or even each individual machine, unique. You don't put all your eggs in one basket.

It would be impossible to make the machines immune to hacking, but in the computer security/hacking world, you do everything you can to make things harder for the hacker, to give you more time to respond to their attack or to discourage it altogether.

Plus, what the hell was with Skynet having all these visual and manual interfaces? Ok, perhaps the facility they infiltrated was originally built by humans, but in nearly a decade and a half the machines had plenty of time to remove such a vulnerable avenue of access when they themselves had absolutely no use for it.

As for the terminators, in short they have terrible aim, are idiotic in moving deliberately slowly when they are perfectly capable of rapid gaits, and are simply incompetent for grabbing and throwing instead of grabbing and tearing/pummeling/crushing, all of which are well within their capabilities.


So again, fun action movie, but so full of plot holes it isn't even funny.

(e: of course, the first two terminator movies suffered the same problem of gross incompetence. Bad aim, slow moving for the sake of dramatic effect, and throwing when the fight could be over with one quick crunch. We forgive those because the plot didn't necessarily hinge on the machines being incompetent, ie, those incompetencies could have been removed and the plot would have still worked, whereas with this latest one the only way they could possibly win the way they did is if Skynet were essentially stupid.)

Logic = boring movie where humans would have no chance of survival

[Rob Oplawar]

Logic = boring movie where humans would have no chance of survival

well, more or less.

[StankBacon]

just saw it, i liked it.

cant wait to get it in HD.

[English Mobster]

I see this movie came from the guns = :) school of thought.