Decisions, decisions....

[Advancebo]

Need some help deciding on what laptop to get from Walmart Online Shop. (lulz, walmart, cheaps)
I decided on 5 choices:

Toshiba 15.4'' Satellite L305D-S5928 Laptop PC w/ AMD Turion X2 64 Dual-Core Processor QL-62 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10879223)
Details: (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10879223#ProductDetail)
-TruBrite 15.4" widescreen LCD (measured diagonally)
Presents vivid 1280 x 800 WXGA resolution with native support for 720p content
-2.0 GHz AMD Turion 64 X2 dual-core processor QL-62
Delivers the processing power to meet the demands of multitasking and multimedia while also saving energy
-3 GB of PC6400 DDR2 system memory
Offers very good performance for today's applications and can be expanded to 4 GB (both slots occupied)
-320 GB hard drive
Provides plenty of storage for documents, games, music, photos and videos
SuperMulti DVD+/-RW drive with double-layer and Labelflash support
Lets you play and burn DVDs or CDs in 11 different disc formats for entertainment or data backup

Acer 14.1" Aspire AS4530-6823 Laptop PC w/ AMD Athlon X2 QL-62 Dual-Core Processor (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11038040)
Details: (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11038040#ProductDetail)
-Operating System: Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium 64-Bit With -Service Pack 1
-Processor: Amd Turion X2 RM-72 Dual-Core Mobile Processor
-Processor Speed: 2.10 Ghz
-Processor Cache: 1MB L2 Cache
-Bus Speed: Up To 4000 Mt/S System Bus Running At Ac/Dc Mode 35 Watt
-Memory: 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm); Max Supported = 8GB
-Accessible Memory Slots: 2
-Video Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics Rs780m With Up To 1918mb -Total Graphics Memory
-Hard Drive: 250gb (5400rpm) Hard Drive (Sata)

Acer 16" Aspire Laptop PC with Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile Processor T6400 (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10858494)
Details: (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10858494#ProductDetail)
-Intel Core2 Duo Mobile Processor T6400
1 MB L2 Cache, 2.0 GHz, 667 MHz FSB
-16" Widescreen WXGA (HD) Acer CineCrystal Display
With an Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M
-4 GB DDR2 667 MHz Dual Channel Memory
Use multiple applications without a decrease in performance
-320 GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive
Store music, photos, videos, documents and more on this generous drive

HP 15.6" G60-231WM Notebook PC (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11038078)
Details: (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=11038078#ProductDetail)
-15.6" High Definition HP BrightView Display
-AMD Athlon X2 QL-64 Dual-Core Processor
-3GB System Memory
-320GB(5400RPM) SATA Hard Drive
-NVIDIA GeForce 8200M video graphics with up to 1407MB total graphics memory
-Integrated 10/100BASE-T Ethernet LAN (RJ-45 connector) and 802.11 b/g WLAN

HP 15.6" G60-235WM Laptop PC with AMD Turion X2 RM-72 Dual-Core Mobile Processor, 250GB Hard Drive (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10910096)
Details: (http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10910096#ProductDetail)
-AMD Turion X2 RM-72 Dual-Core Mobile Processor, 2.10 GHz
Provides an optimized, multithreaded architecture for improved multitasking performance
-4GB DDR2 memory with 2 memory slots
Delivers very quick performance — use several applications without a decrease in performance
-15.6" Diagonal High Definition HP BrightView Display (1366x768)
Enjoy vivid graphics and bright, clean text
-250GB (5400RPM) Hard Drive (SATA)
This large drive will store photos, music, videos and more
-1MB L2 Cache
-NVIDIA GeForce 8200M graphics with up to 1919MB total graphics memory

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I am looking for the best speed, performance, and size.

[Cortexian]

15.4/6" is the way to go for size, to tired to read the rest and compare now... Will post back tomorrow (if I remember), hth.

[paladin]

dont get acer

[Cortexian]

I'd go with the bottom HP.

[Warsaw]

Gott damn, all of them suck TBQH.

However, I'd say go with either the 14.1" Acer, or the last HP, leaning towards the latter.

[Advancebo]

Thanks guys :D
Im thinking on going with the bottom HP.

[Bhamid]

Why is it that AMD laptops chips suck so badly?

[Warsaw]

The AMD Neo is an excellent chip as far as netbooks are concerned, better than the atom and were it dual core, it could compete with some of the CULV Core 2 Duos.. As for the others, it's not that they suck, it's that they are old and tired and haven't been updated in years.

[Bhamid]

This is a laptop thread though, not a netbook thread. Turion needs a remake badly.

[Abdurahman]

45nm laptop AMD chip based on the Phenom II ftw.

[Sel]

Why is it that AMD laptops chips suck so badly?

Uhh they don't?

look how uninformed you are

[Warsaw]

This is a laptop thread though, not a netbook thread. Turion needs a remake badly.

The HP dv2 is considered a laptop, not a netbook. :downs:

[Bhamid]

The HP dv2 is considered a laptop, not a netbook. :downs:

Thats what I'm saying, you said that Neo chips are good, but thats for netbooks, not proper laptops.

And sel, there is a reason why AMD mobile chips are only found on the cheapest laptops...

[Warsaw]

You're reading it wrong.

HP Dv2 is not a netbook. It is a notebook. It uses the Athlon Neo. What does that tell you about the Neo now? It was designed to compete with the Atom, but it's good enough to compete with Pentiums, Celerons, and C2S chips.

[Bhamid]

Well, it could tell me that the Turions are so bad that Neos are as good, if not better...thats why Intel are cautious about their atoms because their core 2s might be damaged by its success.

[Warsaw]

Intel is actually trying to replace the Atom series with the CULV Core 2 Duo series, since they are much better chips. I think these latest Atom CPUs that have just been released will be the last, if I'm not mistaken.

[Bhamid]

I think the whole netbook thing is dying, they're getting more and more powerful and expensive, and the linux thing went wrong, being replaced with XP etc etc, thats why the slim laptops like the lenovo one.

[Warsaw]

The slim laptops are a result of everyone trying to either imitate or compare their products to Apple's lineup. Apple sets the trends, everyone attempts to follow them for the next year or so, then Apple updates and it starts all over again.

[Bhamid]

Thats true, but just because Apple set it doesn't mean they're the best at it.

[Sel]

And sel, there is a reason why AMD mobile chips are only found on the cheapest laptops...

Yeah, there is. Do you know what it is?

It's because they're cheaper, and from what I've heard they aren't as powerful as the intel CPU equivalent. However they are very, very, far from bad.

[Bhamid]

They're cheaper because they're bad. They run hot and yes, they aren't as good as their equivalents from intel.

[Warsaw]

Go educate yourself. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turion_64)

You are comparing chips that are running on an ancient architecture that hasn't really been updated in any way other than a die shrink since 2005 (K8L) to a Core 2 Duo Penryn...there is no comparison. The K8 has been around since 2004, and the X2 since 2005, competing with the old Core Duos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_Duo).

Apples to oranges man, apples to oranges.