Halo: ODST

[Heathen]

On my phone. Excited though

[sdavis117]

"Hell, we could even commandeer a garbage truck if we wanted too."

Drivable Civilian vehicles?

[Daishi]

Sounds like a doubtful thing that would be kinda cool.

[Arteen]

Drivable Civilian vehicles?
Grand Theft Halo? I'd like to run over covies in a futuristic garbage truck.

[Llama Juice]

Bungie knows how to make people hyped.

That ViDoc did it for me. (http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=Halo3ODST_DesperateMeasures) I'm excited.

[Masterz1337]

I watched in on my xbox, the graphics are so significantly better than h3's.

[BobtheGreatII]

Yeah, seems a little suspicious that they continue to bring up those Dump Trucks. : )

Edit: Also, the Police pelican made me laugh a little.

[Kornman00]

Downloading


Also, Prepare To...Dump :-3

[SonicXtreme]

So much win , cannot wait for the damn game now >.<

[TeeKup]

I'll reserve my feelings until I complete the game.

[OmegaDragon]

DO WANT

[Masterz1337]

I'll reserve my feelings until I complete the game.
Are you ever positive about anything?

[jngrow]

Wow, I wish Halo 3's cutscenes were this well directed. Oh, and I'm not sure, but it looks like they did a lot of work on faces.

[BobtheGreatII]

Wow, I wish Halo 3's cutscenes were this well directed. Oh, and I'm not sure, but it looks like they did a lot of work on faces.

Yeah it looks that way, but it looks like there's going to be a lot of close ups too, so the regular would be a little bad to look at. :-3

The work they've done with Halo 3's engine is ridiculous. Looks great.

[p0lar_bear]

Are you ever positive about anything?

Why hype? Even if it's depressing, if you take things with a grain of salt, you'll never be disappointed when they suck, which with most games and movies nowadays, seems to be the case.

[Warsaw]

Game looks good so far, looks to be more entertaining than Halo 3 was. Nathan Fillion FTW.

[Advancebo]

I like that gauss turret mount...

[DEElekgolo]

Commandeer garbage trucks you say?

[Advancebo]

Commandeer garbage trucks you say?

Veronica you say? http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/customavatars/avatar2484_8.gif

[Siliconmaster]

Yeah, seems a little suspicious that they continue to bring up those Dump Trucks. : )

Edit: Also, the Police pelican made me laugh a little.

Haha. Same here- I saw it go down and was like, "Yup, there goes another one..."

[Advancebo]

Haha. Same here- I saw it go down and was like, "Yup, there goes another one..."

Its the fate of all pelicans :smith:

[Rentafence]

How long until someone decides to make a police pelican?

[TeeKup]

Are you ever positive about anything?

There was nothing negative about that post. I'm remaining on a neutral stance with this game. It used to be negative but I'm growing on it, because so far it seems interesting.

Masters next time you try and poke at my demeanor, look out the window and stare at some flowers for a few seconds if it will make you fell better.

[Masterz1337]

Sorry, I just can't just recall the last time I saw you enthused about something. (and no, this isn't suppose to be insulting)

[Amit]

So my thread was locked...thanks.

[sdavis117]

Because I made this thread, and it seems to be doing so good that we could actually drop E3 2009 from the thread title.

[Amit]

Good. Now people won't be mistaken into creating new threads. Does anybody else think that pelicans are too weak? Like 4 plasma bolt from a banshee takes it out? That's ridiculous seeing as the thing has large amounts of armour plating. Could the plasma really burn through so quickly to make the thing un-flyable?

[Cagerrin]

Good. Now people won't be mistaken into creating new threads. Does anybody else think that pelicans are too weak? Like 4 plasma bolt from a banshee takes it out? That's ridiculous seeing as the thing has large amounts of armour plating. Could the plasma really burn through so quickly to make the thing un-flyable?
Joints. Pelicans are weird in that they have very exposed joints where the thrusters connect, and they aren't particularly aerodynamic if the engine pods are disabled, 'specially as the wings don't really seem capable of keeping something that big aloft.

[Masterz1337]

It's a fucking video game.
.

[FRain]

Seriously, Masterz, stop shitting up the threads with random shit like that to derail the thread because what YOU want to hear isn't what's being discussed at the time.

[Masterz1337]

So telling them to stop debating something as trivial as how thick pelican amour is when the reason it went down is clearly to further the plot, is shitting up the thread? It's a fucking video game, we going to talk about how Spikers don't do enough damage to marines next? Or how Johnson has a VISR when he has no helmet next? This thread is to talk about Halo 3: ODST, not the laws and accuracy of the halo series.

[ICEE]

This game still feels to easy to me. Remember when johnson punched that brute in halo 3, with full force and the brute just stood there unimpressed? what the fuck happened to that? Now we're seeing ODSTs meleeing down brutes like it comes naturally.

[Masterz1337]

Called gameplay :).

[ICEE]

moar like lameplay

I'd really rather see a change from the original halo style.

[Daishi]

What people have to remember is that this is an action game, and no matter how you look at it, it's still halo. What three things are the most important parts of halo's gameplay? Guns, grenades, and melee, IIRC. If you remove melee because it doesn't fit the story, then you fuck up the gameplay. And if you fuck up the gameplay, then there's no point to playing the game. Gtfoi, it's halo, there will be melee that actually does something.

[Masterz1337]

moar like lameplay

I'd really rather see a change from the original halo style.

That's why we have H2 :). Halo in name only.

[Amit]

So telling them to stop debating something as trivial as how thick pelican amour is.

Stop there, I fail to see where I posted again saying that his whole thruster failure hypothesis was wrong. I know your intentions are good but don't misinterpret a question as a new way to flame.

FRain, you need to chill the fuck out man.

[Masterz1337]

With all respect, if you hadn't posted again about it then someone else would. This is Modacity, if I had a dollar for each time someone started debating the realisms of these games I could buy myself a new copy of Halo Wars. I doubt I'm the only one tired of seeing those discussions derailing a thread.

And yeah Frain... what the F?

[Ki11a_FTW]

This game still feels to easy to me. Remember when johnson punched that brute in halo 3, with full force and the brute just stood there unimpressed? what the fuck happened to that? Now we're seeing ODSTs meleeing down brutes like it comes naturally.

Fist vs Metal, what do you think will hurt more?

[FRain]

With all respect, if you hadn't posted again about it then someone else would. This is Modacity, if I had a dollar for each time someone started debating the realisms of these games I could buy myself a new copy of Halo Wars. I doubt I'm the only one tired of seeing those discussions derailing a thread.

And yeah Frain... what the F?

I'm just sick and fucking tired of you running around into every thread posting something as pointless as what you did because some people debate about how things work in a game, just because you don't want to hear it. I like to hear it. The forums don't revolve around you. It may be a video game, yes, but it also gives you perspective on how things are built in the backstory of the game, it's not pointless.

[teh lag]

If anyone is derailing the thread, it's you by posting to tell Masterz to shut up in front of everyone.

As for melees... if melee became useless, melee would... well... become useless. If there's no reason for a player to use it because it's too weak to be worth anything, then it falls out of normal gameplay mechanics unless the player has no ammunition left. Not to mention that human strength seems to vary in-universe depending on what is required by the situation - sure, Johnson's punch doesn't harm the Brute at all, but Marines are capable of holding onto the side of a Hornet with one hand while holding a god-knows-how-heavy rocket launcher with the other. Then in Halo Wars, Forge beats the Arbiter in hand-to-hand combat. It's all about what fits for the moment at hand.

[Advancebo]

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU073109
New Updates

And new Firefight map:
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/ODST_Firefight_AlphaSite03.jpg

[Ki11a_FTW]

:jibbly:

also

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/ODST_Firefight_AlphaSite05_inline.jpg

Pistol in the light :)

[Advancebo]

:jibbly:

also

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/ODST_Firefight_AlphaSite05_inline.jpg

Pistol in the light :)

UMAD

[ODX]

I'm really disappointed at the reuse of Halo 2's pistol animations.

[Amit]

I'm really disappointed at the reuse of Halo 2's pistol animations.

There's nothing wrong with them.

[Daishi]

I notice that the M6S has 12 rounds, instead of H3's 8. I also notice that the player tags are now 4 alphanumeric symbols, instead of one letter and two numbers.

[ODX]

There's nothing wrong with them.I don't exactly have a problem with the animations, my problem is that they're reusing them which is bothering me since I would have liked to see some new custom animations for the new weapons.

[Syuusuke]

u mad?

i like this odst thing.

[teh lag]

I don't exactly have a problem with the animations, my problem is that they're reusing them which is bothering me since I would have liked to see some new custom animations for the new weapons.

Pssh, it's not like they haven't taken shortcuts animating before (plus, I don't think they just straight-copied the anims, one would imagine that the ODST's FP model would require at least some modifications). There's only so many ways to animate a pistol.


UMAD

...do you even know what you're saying

[Advancebo]

I notice that the M6S has 12 rounds, instead of H3's 8. I also notice that the player tags are now 4 alphanumeric symbols, instead of one letter and two numbers.

Also notice how the M7S has 48 rounds instead of the SMG usual of 60.



...do you even know what you're saying

It was to point at the UMAD service tag. Notice how it curves. Halo 3 didnt have that.

[Ki11a_FTW]

and also how there is no numbers in UMAD

[ICEE]

Pssh, it's not like they haven't taken shortcuts animating before (plus, I don't think they just straight-copied the anims, one would imagine that the ODST's FP model would require at least some modifications). There's only so many ways to animate a pistol.

Im gonna have to agree with ODX on this one. If bungie were really dedicated to giving the game a different, more mortal feel to it, they ought to rescale and re-animate the fp models. Chief flings the guns around as if they weighed nothing.

[Advancebo]

Well he is a spartan with a power suit that increases his speed and strength...

[p0lar_bear]

I'm really disappointed at the reuse of Halo 2's pistol animations.Why reinvent the wheel? When it comes down to it, are you going to care at all about the animations when you're lacing up and beating the living snot out of grunts, jackals, and brutes?



UMAD

...do you even know what you're saying

UMAD. :realsmug:

[ICEE]

Well he is a spartan with a power suit that increases his speed and strength...

and ODSTs are not. I rest my case

[Advancebo]

and ODSTs are not. I rest my case

Well they do have an armor suit that gives them some protection...

[p0lar_bear]

Stop.

Now.

That is all.

[Pooky]

...do you even know what you're saying

Look at the picture more closely <_<

[Inferno]

I hate the origins on the ODST pistol. Anyone else?

[Atty]

Im gonna have to agree with ODX on this one. If bungie were really dedicated to giving the game a different, more mortal feel to it, they ought to rescale and re-animate the fp models. Chief flings the guns around as if they weighed nothing.Yeah becuase you know how heavy those futuristic weapons are, made of super heavy materials and of course the most elite branch of military operations would all be incredibly weak and give into their mortal fears, dragging their weapons through the air as if they were wielding a sledge hammer at the age of 5.

[Good_Apollo]

I think the point everyone is getting at here is that they love Halo, they love the story, the weapons, the creatures and the vehicles, but they are tired of the super-human destroy everything he sees in 15 seconds gameplay. Bungie said they were giving us ODSTs but I think everyone feels like they are just giving us Halo 3: Reskinned, and with visors and cooler cutscenes! Which is great and all, but it does get old...

At least Halo Wars was a breath of fresh air even if the RTS gameplay was stale for the most part, it was new for Halo.

[SonicXtreme]

Bungie said they were giving us ODSTs but I think everyone feels like they are just giving us Halo 3: Reskinned, and with visors and cooler cutscenes!
.

I dont feel like they are giving us a Halo 3 : Reskinned , all the additions they have talked about my look the same , but i am sure with the level hub , various missions , improved graphics engine and other little bits and pieces , that it will feel like a seperate experiance , so no , i must be one of the strange ones that does not agree with the crowd.

[BobtheGreatII]

It's the same engine, they just did different things with it.

[Advancebo]

Its a modified engine.

[BobtheGreatII]

Its a modified engine.

No it's not. Bungie stated that ODST was the first game where they didn't change the engine at all. All that happened was that the artists and developers found new ways of going about things, so they were able to come out with what you see.

I'm going off what Bungie has stated here, not bullshitting.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

They didn't change their rendering engine.

They sure as hell modified their game engine though. It's blatantly obvious.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Yeah i remember them saying something about it in one of the e3 videos

[ShadowSpartan]

No it's not. Bungie stated that ODST was the first game where they didn't change the engine at all. All that happened was that the artists and developers found new ways of going about things, so they were able to come out with what you see.

I'm going off what Bungie has stated here, not bullshitting.
Bungie never stated that the engine was not modified. Where are you getting this information from?


Here are some quotes taken from the Bungie Podcast.
Bungie Podcast 6/2/09 (http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/F/7/0F7FCED8-E5CB-4DB7-9CA1-399AFFEE433E/Bungie_Podcast_060209.mp3)


I think a lot of it had to do with the fact we were working in the Halo 3 engine. I mean this is the first time that we, Bungie, at least since we've shipped Halo 1, haven't rewritten the technical side from scratch.

Implies that they have edited the engine in some ways.



Given the year that we had to develop this, we also weren't going to do any heavy lifting on the AI side. Like, we pretty much decided on a small subset of features for the AI that we were going to improve upon.

Clearly states that they improved the AI, which means editing the engine.
(http://download.microsoft.com/download/0/F/7/0F7FCED8-E5CB-4DB7-9CA1-399AFFEE433E/Bungie_Podcast_060209.mp3)

[Heathen]

Hey guys, this looks fun doesn't it?

But yeah, I get your point with the "its the same all over again," but alot of gameplay isn't just the enemies and what weapons you have. Its also the situations you are put in.

Its obvious the little fella has less health this time around. And if you've noticed, we only see him taking on groups of about 3 or 4. And usually with the same silent little pistol.

It will feel different, because you arent taking a bridge entrance of about 15+ brutes with shade turrets and jetpacks with nothing but a BR and a wraith.

The entire feel will be different simply because its different gameplay, different situations, different weapon/situation relationships, and besides, the whole city thing is gonna be great.

As far as city goes, I doubt you will be able to run about and kill every brute, leaving you an empty city. There will be this ever present realism in the dispersal of enemy troops and tactical advantage.

Relax, you played the same game 3 times before with halo 1, 2, and 3. Whats the problem if you get it again, cept this time it has a reason to be slightly different. This will be more different than the last 3 games were to each other.

[Advancebo]

Like I said, I like the looks of that turret mount:
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/turretmount1.png

[Lateksi]

^ It's a bit hard to get in there, though.

[=sw=warlord]

^ It's a bit hard to get in there, though.
I agree.

[Masterz1337]

There's upgrades to the engine. You'd really have to be an idiot not to realize that by now.

[BobtheGreatII]

There's upgrades to the engine. You'd really have to be an idiot not to realize that by now.

Thank you for your informative post Masterz. :iamafag:

So I'm an idiot.

But still, when you look at it. Look at all we've done with the original Halo engine, and we haven't modified it, just simply changed settings.

Can we drop it now? kthanks.

[Pooky]

Relax, you played the same game 3 times before with halo 1, 2, and 3. Whats the problem if you get it again, cept this time it has a reason to be slightly different. This will be more different than the last 3 games were to each other.

Eh, not necessarily. First we played Halo 1, then we played the same game twice in a row with Halo 2 and 3.

[Heathen]

Eh, not necessarily. First we played Halo 1, then we played the same game twice in a row with Halo 2 and 3.
thats what I said pooks. :realsmug:

[Pooky]

thats what I said pooks. :realsmug:

I'm saying that Halo 1 wasn't the same game as Halo 2 and 3.

In fact, this is a whole lot more like Halo 1 than either of those two games were, from the look of it.

[jngrow]

I'm saying that Halo 1 wasn't the same game as Halo 2 and 3.

In fact, this is a whole lot more like Halo 1 than either of those two games were, from the look of it.

And I like that.

[Warsaw]

I'm saying that Halo 1 wasn't the same game as Halo 2 and 3.

In fact, this is a whole lot more like Halo 1 than either of those two games were, from the look of it.

This. And it is a beautiful thing. =3

[Siliconmaster]

On the subject of the new map videos, I'm liking Heretic Citadel a lot more than before. I thought it was just that one room, but it looks like a multi layered playing space with multiple avenues of movement. Should be pretty fun. And is anyone else amused with the moving bridge on Longshore? Interactive stuff always entertains me.

Edit: Also, wrong thread. Oops.

[Advancebo]

New Firefight map:
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=Halo3ODST_RallyPoint

[FRain]

Halo 3: ODST ViDoc 2 "Bip. Bap. Bam."

News article: http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=ViDoc_WelcomeToFirefight

360p W/ Subtitles http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/C/3/1C3668CF-69E8-46FF-B86D-C110541DB%20502/H3_ODST_Firefight_ViDoc_Eng_with_EN_subtitles_rate dM_360p30_ST_1500kbps.wmv

[jngrow]

You know it's good when you see comments on videos and other places like:

"I know there are a lot of Halo haters out there, but you can't deny that this game looks like it will very fun at the least."

"I wish Halo was always this cool"

I'm already a fan of Halo. This game.. it's gonna be good.

[Siliconmaster]

<3 Johnson. I haven't pre-ordered ODST yet but I will as soon as I get my paychecks into the bank.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Oh my god, this game looks amazing.

[Delta4907]

That's cool that you can play without the helmet, thought I probably wouldn't myself. I saw 7 options, so thats Rookie, Romeo, Mickey, Dutch, Buck, Dare, and Johnson. What if you choose to take off the helmet for the Rookie? I'd laugh if it was possible and there was just another helmet. (Halo 1 ending)

[paladin]

That's cool that you can play without the helmet, thought I probably wouldn't myself. I saw 7 options, so thats Rookie, Romeo, Mickey, Dutch, Buck, Dare, and Johnson. What if you choose to take off the helmet for the Rookie? I'd laugh if it was possible and there was just another helmet. (Halo 1 ending)

You take off the helmet and there is a MARK V helmet.

[Advancebo]

Yay :D

[t3h m00kz]

fuck the god damn ODST vehicle was RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FROM ME, LESS THAN A MILE AWAY letting people play and I missed it because we were uninformed.

It was on Saturday, they announced it on Friday.

fffffffffffffff

[Advancebo]

lol^ :haw:

[annihilation]

I hope they're still accepting pre orders.
I had $60 all ready to go, I was on my way to Gamestop but I got an emergancy call.
There went that $60........
I have about $20 now.

[Ki11a_FTW]

I'll be getting the game 5 days before official release.

[sevlag]

I'll be getting the game 5 days before official release.may i inquire HOW good sir? pre-ordered advanced copy or just gonna jack a shpment of the game while its on the road


also, anyone up for teaing up in firefight ? :3

[Kornman00]

also, anyone up for teaming up in firefight ? :3
I am, but I won't be getting it in the mail until about 10 days after it comes out :|. The APO mail system sucks in that regard.

[Siliconmaster]

I'd be up for some firefighting, when I'm not playing locally with my dormmates. My screenname is Br0nto.

[sevlag]

in regards to that achievement that you have to play a level on legendary without firing a single shot or throwing a grenade...makes you wonder, will you have you have to use "unkillable" allies

sounds great, hopefully we can live a decent length in firefight been playing horde on GoW2 to get used to taking cover

tag is "about 75 tacos" it akes sense if you play like left 4 dead or halo 2 :P

[Ki11a_FTW]

may i inquire HOW good sir?

one of my good friends owns a game store down the street from me

[Advancebo]

who wants to play campaign coop :P

[sevlag]

who wants to play campaign coop :Psorry to crush your hopes advan, but i think campaign is SP only :\ if it isn't then I'll help X3

[FRain]

Dude... You'd have to be fucking retarded to get rid of campaign co-op.

[sevlag]

Dude... You'd have to be fucking retarded to get rid of campaign co-op.
i think they did, not trying to troll, but i remember hearing them (bungie) say campaign was SP only, but then again they also initially stated that this would be sold for less then a real game :\

[FRain]

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/H3ODST_Campaign_1stPersonVISR02.jpg

[Siliconmaster]

I was under the impression it had full 4-person co-op, just like Halo 3. 2 per xbox.

Edit: Yeah, as that illustrates ^

[sevlag]

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/H3ODST_Campaign_1stPersonVISR02.jpg
ok, then i guess i misheard, my bad :\

but i'd be more then happy to play campaign as well

[Limited]

Pre-ordered mine a few days ago, hoping it will come day of release or a day earlier. I'm moving out again 2 days after release, so if its late I'll have to wait a couple of months to come back and get it :(

[Siliconmaster]

Pre-ordered from Amazon earlier today. Should arrive the day it comes out.

[Kornman00]

ODST comes out the same day I joined H2V.net, 3 years ago

I see what you did thar Bungie :saggy:

[Advancebo]

ODST comes out the same day I joined H2V.net, 3 years ago

I see what you did thar Bungie :saggy:

stalkers http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/customavatars/avatar2484_8.gif

[Hunter]

Why did they bring back that pointless red fucking plasma rifle? it was pretty pointless tbh... Just different colours.

And I wish I could preorder it, but I have spent all of my money...

[ODX]

Some new videos put up yesterday, here's just an interesting one:
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/26166

[Kornman00]

I thought the brute plasma rifle was a little stronger than the "normal" one?

Also, despite it being 'Halo 3: ODST" it's set during the land before [strike]time[/strike[ Halo 3: Halo 2. Due to economic problems, they could only produce the "normal" blue ones until now :downs:

EDIT:

Some new videos put up yesterday, here's just an interesting one:
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/26166
Holy shit I can't wait for this game. Nice touch with the engineers in firefight, new element to account for. Kinda makes me want to play halo wars now :-3

[Cagerrin]

Why did they bring back that pointless red fucking plasma rifle? it was pretty pointless tbh... Just different colours.

And I wish I could preorder it, but I have spent all of my money...
Well, seeing as there aren't any Elites, and that was the variant the Brutes were using during Halo 2...

Reading Contact Harvest, it seems the Elites got all the best hardware, so until they left the Covenant, the Brutes probably would have been stuck with crappy overheating stuff.

[Siliconmaster]

OMG Engineers. I've been waiting for those guys to show up in a Halo game for years. So glad they're in there. :D

[Advancebo]

Why did they bring back that pointless red fucking plasma rifle? it was pretty pointless tbh... Just different colours.

And I wish I could preorder it, but I have spent all of my money...

Dude, dont diss the BPR :cop:

[Limited]

Some new videos put up yesterday, here's just an interesting one:
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/26166
Hmm, Engineers in Halo Wars makes alot of sense, I'm sure if I fully like the idea they heal the enemy in combat, especially when the ODST's dont have regenerating shields or anything fancy like that.

Did any one else lol at the way the dude goes "reeeeeeeeeeeloading"?

[Ki11a_FTW]

Brute Plasma Rifle has a higher rate of fire and is slightly stronger, and is distinctively designed for the brute to use (obviously)

[Advancebo]

Brute Plasma Rifle has a higher rate of fire and is slightly stronger, and is distinctively designed for the brute to use (obviously)

I dont believe it is stronger, it just seemed like it since it fired way faster than the regular PR.

[English Mobster]

Brute PR fired faster, but also overheated faster.

[Kornman00]

but also overheated faster.
nothing like charred furries :neckbeard:

[English Mobster]

Going to San Diego today at noon to meet up with the Bungie guys in the ODST-mobile and play some Firefight.
Going to bring along my copy of H1 PC and a sharpie to get Joseph Staten or one of the Bungie guys to sign it.

[Siliconmaster]

Nice. Good luck, man.

[Gwunty]

Going to San Diego today at noon to meet up with the Bungie guys in the ODST-mobile and play some Firefight.
Going to bring along my copy of H1 PC and a sharpie to get Joseph Staten or one of the Bungie guys to sign it.
Guess who lives in SD

[Heathen]

Why did they bring back that pointless red fucking plasma rifle? it was pretty pointless tbh... Just different colours.

And I wish I could preorder it, but I have spent all of my money...
it had a higher Rate of fire and it was stronger.

Guess who lives in SD
no one cool

[English Mobster]

Guess who lives in SD
My aunt and uncle.
And my 3 cousins.

[Masterz1337]

Everyone knows he's Jay already. >_>

[Advancebo]

So how was your little trip?

[Ki11a_FTW]

bungie better get their asses to the east coast

[sdavis117]

I hate how they fucking skip anywhere close to where I live. Sure, they are hitting Chicago, but that is several hundred miles away.

[Advancebo]

They totally skipped Georgia ):

[sdavis117]

Well, I decided to do something I have never done before, Preorder a game.

Who else here preordered ODST?

[Huero]

Me.

[=sw=warlord]

I pre-ordered it a week after E3.

[Advancebo]

I preordered it 6/01/09, as it says on my receipt :downs:

[tj117]

*raises hand*

Currently only payed the bare minimum, $5.

[Siliconmaster]

Pre-ordered last week, once I finally got my paychecks. :D

[Limited]

Pre-ordered like last week from Play.com...Better get here on time, if its late I'm screwed.

[Hotrod]

I preordered it over a month ago :)

[Heathen]

Not me. I am normal and can wait a day.

In fact, I can get most pre ordered games they day they hit shelves.

So I see no point.

[FRain]

Johnson.

That is all.

[sdavis117]

Well, it is now 100% that there are not going to be Flood in Halo ODST. Some might have thought that the flood would be put in as a little surprise halfway through the game, but looking at the ESRB rating, I'd say not a chance. The reason that the ESRB said that there was "Blood & Gore" in Halo 3 was because you could shatter the flood into tiny pieces. There is no Gore in Halo ODST according to the ESRB, so no Flood.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I'll have this game in a few days.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Why would their be flood? At the time this game takes place they are just starting to invade In Amber Clad and later High Charity.

[Saggy]

I'll have this game in a few days.
Same.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

High five!

[Heathen]

Johnson.

That is all.

is that REALLY the reason people are preordering this?


...like....seriously?

[=sw=warlord]

is that REALLY the reason people are preordering this?


...like....seriously?
I preordered before even findout about the johnson thing.
I only got it because i know how hard it is to get games the week their out where i live so i preordered from a place i know sends out copies as soon as they have instock so they arrive on day of release.

[sdavis117]

is that REALLY the reason people are preordering this?


...like....seriously?
http://diy.despair.com/output/poster88163178.jpg

[Advancebo]

is that REALLY the reason people are preordering this?


...like....seriously?

I preordered 6/1/09, so.. yeh... :-3

[Heathen]

I mean...I just buy them the day they come out anyways so I don't really get the benefit of it, but even if I had to wait a WHOLE WEEK (seven days dear god no!!!) I think I would survive.

[English Mobster]

I just want Johnson.
=3

[Heathen]

Bleh. I cant be coaxed out of my money for something like that.

[sdavis117]

It doesn't cost anything extra to preorder a game. That $5 you spend to preorder the game is taken out of the price when you go to actually buy the game, so a $60 like ODST will be $55 when you go to pick it up.

[Heathen]

wait...so then they gain nothing?

Lol.

[sdavis117]

They gain the guarantee that someone will buy the game, and it also lets them know how many copies of the game they are going to need.

[English Mobster]

Yeah, it doesn't cost a cent more if you preorder. You just have to pay less up-front.

[Ki11a_FTW]

I just pre-ordered the game :)

[=sw=warlord]

I mean...I just buy them the day they come out anyways so I don't really get the benefit of it, but even if I had to wait a WHOLE WEEK (seven days dear god no!!!) I think I would survive.
Do you by any chance live in the packed city if so then you may not know just how small some rural areas can be especialy how few retailers there are.

[English Mobster]

We have 2 Gamestops within a block of each other.
Seriously.
One used to be EB Games, but Gamestop bought out EB, so now they're both Gamestops.

[Lateksi]

Here's some more firefight footage:

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[Ganon]

woah there with the homosexual announcers

[Rosco]

woah there with the homosexual announcers

greatest commentators don't know shit about the game :smith:

[Advancebo]

MLG must feel sad face for no battle rifles, lol.

[sevlag]

MLG must feel sad face for no battle rifles, lol.oh yeah,

and the engineers are awesome :D just like in halo wars :3

[Advancebo]

oh yeah,

and the engineers are awesome :D just like in halo wars :3

I dont recall Halo Wars Engineers making overshields :realsmug:

[sevlag]

I dont recall Halo Wars Engineers making overshields :realsmug:
well they are both squishy a nd made of fun right? thats what makes em win, the overshield crafting is just a fancy smancy ODST feature :P

[paladin]

I drove by when it was in Redmond. It was totally fagtron central and not worth it. ODST isnt worth it :fail:

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I love firefight.

[BobtheGreatII]

well they are both squishy a nd made of fun right?P

I want one for a pet. :-3

[=sw=warlord]

Blah, got a E-Mail today about my preorder and apparently i wont be getting the code that goe's with it due to the shop not receiving them....
Well atleast my copy will be here soon even if i dont get the unlockable.:neckbeard:

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I just beat this game, it was awesome, I can't wait til I get johnson from my future preorder :)

[FireDragon04]

Blah, got a E-Mail today about my preorder and apparently i wont be getting the code that goe's with it due to the shop not receiving them....
Well atleast my copy will be here soon even if i dont get the unlockable.:neckbeard:
What store you buy (pre-order) from?


I just beat this game, it was awesome, I can't wait til I get johnson from my future preorder :)
Wow that didn't take you too long. :iamafag:

[BobtheGreatII]

Death Comes to All of Us

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/102/1021261p1.html

Anyone else expecting a live action short? :-3

[Saggy]

Death Comes to All of Us

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/102/1021261p1.html

Anyone else expecting a live action short? :-3
Already been confirmed lol. Premieres next Monday.

[BobtheGreatII]

Where was it confirmed, cause that was posted today...?

[Saggy]

Where was it confirmed, cause that was posted today...?
Live action short has been confirmed, but I don't know if that's what the image is for...

Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS252724+03-Sep-2009+PRN20090903

[=sw=warlord]

What store you buy (pre-order) from?

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Go-To-7dayshop__W0QQ_armrsZ1
But im thinking of emailing them tell them to screw the preorder i want a refund and il take my business else where.
I know a friend who works in game station so im sure id still beable to preorder from there.:smith:

[Kornman00]

Waiting on Spike TV to post their first GTTV (http://www.spike.com/show/20265) episode relating to Halo ODST :mad:

It came out this morning (according to that reuters article) but, of course, I can't watch Spike TV because I'm not in America. Lame.

[Saggy]

Waiting on Spike TV to post their first GTTV (http://www.spike.com/show/20265) episode relating to Halo ODST :mad:

It came out this morning (according to that reuters article) but, of course, I can't watch Spike TV because I'm not in America. Lame.
Actually, it comes out TOMORROW morning... the episode airs Friday at 12:30 AM.

Woah, wait nvm your right... It's usually Friday mornings :p

E: Nvm, I'm right lol. They're saying Thursday NIGHT (Friday Morning) at 12:30 AM EST.

[Kornman00]

Thursday, September 3 at 12:30 AM ET/PT
"GAMETRAILERS TV WITH GEOFF KEIGHLEY" FROM BUNGIE
"GTTV" heads behind-the-scenes at Bungie for an exclusivAssholes :|, get their facts straight!

I hope theres a youtube at least, if they don't post it on stv

[Saggy]

Assholes :|, get their facts straight!

I hope theres a youtube at least, if they don't post it on stv
According to SPIKE's logic, a new day starts at around 9:00 AM EST...

It'll most likely be on Gametrailers.com tomorrow. Or torrent as well.

[English Mobster]

I just beat this game, it was awesome, I can't wait til I get johnson from my future preorder :)
How the HELL did you beat this game? It's not out yet, nor is Bungie giving out any copies of it (and I seriously doubt you got a copy from Bungie).

[Kornman00]

He bought a reese's pb cup and guess what popped out when he went to go enjoy a nice delicious cup of peanut butter (which was also just recently in the fridge so it was nice and cool) capped with chocolate?
































TWO reese's pb cups. What, you were expecting something else?

[Cortexian]

I guess I'll go pre-order tomorrow, won't cost me any extra like most places and I might as well get Johnson if I can... I mean, why not?

[FireDragon04]

Enjoyed ODST on GTTV this week, looked awesome! Bungie guys were great too! :iamafag:

[=sw=warlord]

Is anyone else here getting a bit of dejavu on johnson being in firefight?
Anyone remember the video bungie did earlier this year with johnson being in rats nest with the various ai through the map?

[FRain]

How the HELL did you beat this game? It's not out yet, nor is Bungie giving out any copies of it (and I seriously doubt you got a copy from Bungie).

You're kind of behind buddy. A french retailer sold a few copies damn early and leaked it in french. He has a modded xbox and used that to play the leaked version.

[English Mobster]

I knew about the French retailer, but I didn't quite think about the modded Xbox part. Thanks anyway.

[=sw=warlord]

http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/852871/bungie-project-2/videos/haloodst_liveaction_trl_090409.html;jsessionid=1ii o3ajm9o2hk

[thehoodedsmack]

Just saw the live-action trailer. I'm now fairly certain that if a Halo movie ever was to be made, it would benefit exponentially by having absolutely no mention of the Chief. That was some cool stuff.

[Amit]

It was cool but the Brute looked pretty...well not real. The CG and the real footage wasn't blended together very well. It was like everything was physically falling apart before it was shot or shaken off. The ODST armour is obviously based off the game's, but it looks too fragile.

[DEElekgolo]

It does look fragile, seeing that his helmet would falloff so easily. That video makes the ODST look weak.

[Amit]

It does look fragile, seeing that his helmet would falloff so easily. That video makes the ODST look weak.

This is what I was trying to say.

[Delta4907]

The Brute looked like a plastic toy. I honestly didn't like it, it didn't make me want ODST any more, or less.

[Siliconmaster]

I just saw the trailer, and thought it was fucking awesome. So the CG wasn't perfect, but for a live action game trailer I found it surprisingly epic. For me this goes up there with the Starry Night trailer.

[Advancebo]

Pretty cool considering it was a trailer for a game.

[Kornman00]

I have no complaints about the live action trailer

I think they nailed the theme of the ODST down pretty hard. You have these battle worn troopers who have grown to only know nothing but that of surviving on the battle field. God, they would keep people employed at the future VA for decades after the war :x.

Someone should upload the HD version, go :downs:

[Siliconmaster]

http://s.xbox360movies.ign.com/xbox360/video/article/102/1021269/haloodst_liveaction_trl_090409_flvhighwide.flv

It's SD, but it's something. The HD one is only available for insiders. Anyone have an account?

[Advancebo]

I could try to get an insiders account, then upload to Youtube.

[FireDragon04]

BTW The guys (mb guy) behind the 'Believe' trailer for Halo 3 made this short, remember they made that massive diorama type scene for halo.

Well anyway, i have IGN insider, and BOY does it look even awesomer in HD :iamafag:

[Advancebo]

Just waiting for the video on Youtube to process :)

[Kornman00]

This isn't exactly a spoiler, as it's not related to the story line, but just to keep die-hards savvy

The "Atlas" build of the Halo 3 engine has three new secondary skulls. However, only one seemed to be planned for inclusion.

* Assassin -Interred "where heroes fall". Overactive camo.
* Third Person - Not implemented in the UI
* Director's Cut - Not implemented in the UI

Atlas is the internal name of the engine (or branch of the engine) used for ODST, but it's still the Halo 3. I'm guessing it's due to how the engine's world geometry system has been tweaked for, you guessed it, atlas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas) use, instead of one map defining an area of play they have multiple maps to define portions of an entire atlas. Firefight is just a new campaign mode (internally known as "survival mode"), hence the four player cap.

[Advancebo]

Im guessing Atlas is just before Alpha?

Brownish Gold Hunters in Firefight.

HD on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAoNdgUJoKQ

[FireDragon04]

Screenshots from Halo 3: ODST Xbox 360 Trailer - Live-Action Trailer from IGN.com - HD
Warning: Lots of HD (1920X1080res) images below (all in shot tags, click to see bigger)

http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2856/odst1.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/961/odst2h.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/835/odst3.jpg
http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4610/odst4.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5378/odst5.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/7255/odst6.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4867/odst7.jpg
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5241/odst8.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/2530/odst9.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/6015/odst10.jpg
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/4237/odst11.jpg
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4659/odst12.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2559/odst13.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/2448/odst14.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6895/odst15.jpg
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9035/odst16.jpg
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/2954/odst17.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/345/odst18.jpg


All screen shots taken from the HD version of the Live-Action trailer from IGN.
Enjoy everyone, and once again AWESOME trailer, can't wait for the full live-action short now... if there is one... I damn hope so because they could go so much further then that! If not this is still awesome, and we'll have to wait and see what the thing is that airs on Spike on Monday night.

[Amit]

HD on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAoNdgUJoKQ

That's not HD, that's almost worse than SD on IGN.

[Advancebo]

So you made screenshots instead of doing the video :v:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAoNdgUJoKQ

At Amit, its still processing, learn to read.

[Amit]

So you made screenshots instead of doing the video :v:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAoNdgUJoKQ

At Amit, its still processing, learn to read.

Don't tell me to learn to read. I did read your other post. It said it was processing. Then you posted again with a link to it being in "High Definition."

Don't post three links to the same "HD" video if it's not done yet. I'm glad you're uploading it, though. Thank you. Freelancer may commence creaming his pants.

[Advancebo]

Turned out, the file I downloaded before was the wrong file. So I redownloaded, and reuploaded.

e: It is now HD.

[Cortexian]

And now you guys can download the HD AVI file from the Lancers Edge here (http://freelancer.lancersedge.com/downloads/Live_Action-Halo_3_ODST_Trailer-HD.avi)!

[=sw=warlord]

im suprised people missed this... (http://cdn.haloodst.xbox.com/odst/index.html)

[Limited]

im suprised people missed this... (http://cdn.haloodst.xbox.com/odst/index.html)
Probably because that site requires Silverlight, which sucks.

[paladin]

Played at pax like 100 times. Firefight is ok....

[Kornman00]

Lost Platoon is really awesome with 2+ people, as long you have a good warthog driver and gunner

Crater (day) is probably the only good map to play solo.

Alpha Site is pretty cool with 2+ people too

[paladin]

Though Alpha Site, (I think, I didnt get the name) is tooooooooooooooooo big. (this on is toooooo big (http://www.bungie.net/projects/odst/asset_popup_viewer.aspx?at=59&cc=29&item=46) But Crater is excellent. Thanks to a friend in the business, I got to attend a private screening of the ODST campaign. Guess who was there as well..

This level was awesome. this one (http://www.bungie.net/projects/odst/asset_popup_viewer.aspx?at=59&cc=29&item=42)

[sevlag]

Probably because that site requires Silverlight, which sucks.
tried that link and though it'd be funny to anter 2532 as the year i was born, now im locked out xD

[Kornman00]

After you get to Set 5, all skulls get turned on (expect Iron)

[paladin]

im suprised people missed this... (http://cdn.haloodst.xbox.com/odst/index.html)

anyone one know the access code for the level 4 security clearance?

[Huero]

I did a quick google search; the codes are posted on the bungie forums; the only useful information that i got from the blocked videos is that they're going to be blowing up some buildings
i hope nobody thinks that's a spoiler

[paladin]

Kinda random, but my brothers picture was on the Bungie twitter today. Link (http://twitpic.com/gsafp)

[=sw=warlord]

Bah, im stuck in quite a deep issue with my order for odst.
At first the retailer told me AFTER i paid that i wouldnt be getting the unlock code for johnson and now when i try to cancel and get a refund their telling me i will get a code.
I think someone is telling porkie pies in their sales...

[sdavis117]

Get a letter saying that your retailer is giving ODST Johnson codes with your preorders, have the manager (or whoever told you that they will have the code) sign the letter, then use it to sue them if you don't get the code (or threaten to sue and force them to grab you a code off of Ebay).

[=sw=warlord]

Get a letter saying that your retailer is giving ODST Johnson codes with your preorders, have the manager (or whoever told you that they will have the code) sign the letter, then use it to sue them if you don't get the code (or threaten to sue and force them to grab you a code off of Ebay).
It's been dealt with now, getting a partial refund to the price of local shops and im getting the code.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

This isn't exactly a spoiler, as it's not related to the story line, but just to keep die-hards savvy

The "Atlas" build of the Halo 3 engine has three new secondary skulls. However, only one seemed to be planned for inclusion.

* Assassin -Interred "where heroes fall". Overactive camo.
* Third Person - Not implemented in the UI
* Director's Cut - Not implemented in the UI

Atlas is the internal name of the engine (or branch of the engine) used for ODST, but it's still the Halo 3. I'm guessing it's due to how the engine's world geometry system has been tweaked for, you guessed it, atlas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlas) use, instead of one map defining an area of play they have multiple maps to define portions of an entire atlas. Firefight is just a new campaign mode (internally known as "survival mode"), hence the four player cap.
Would you possibly be able to get the last two skulls implemented in a save mod, or something of the like for us non-devkits to use?

[Kornman00]

They're unimplemented in ODST. Maybe they'll be in Reach vOv


Game play related, nothing story related:

Nothing special happens after Set 7. I figure I'd save you guys the ~4 hour game play in case you were wondering. However once you get past Set 5, all skulls (save iron) stay on every following round and set. So much for a break lol.

[Heathen]

It does look fragile, seeing that his helmet would falloff so easily. That video makes the ODST look weak.

you can melee their helmets off in the game :/

your logic is flaccid.


Im guessing Atlas is just before Alpha?

what? No...lol.

[=sw=warlord]

Looks like those complaining about recon being the next hayabusha have little to worry about.
I seriously doubt many of the fanboys will last 60 waves of covenant. (http://squiddy3000.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/odst-vidmasters-broken-down/)

[Jean-Luc]

I give it about two weeks before some hardcore devotee beats that.

[Kornman00]

Looks like those complaining about recon being the next hayabusha have little to worry about.
I seriously doubt many of the fanboys will last 60 waves of covenant. (http://squiddy3000.wordpress.com/2009/07/13/odst-vidmasters-broken-down/)
It isn't that difficult to get past Set 4, especially in co-op

[Limited]

It isn't that difficult to get past Set 4, especially in co-op
I think its a combination of difficulty (pyong got randomly owned just on Normal) and time, it will take along in-game time.

Pyong told me lives are shared on co-op firefight.

[Hotrod]

Well, this sounds like it's going to be quite fun, I can't wait to get a hold of 3 buddies, and spend a night working on those Vidmasters :)

[=sw=warlord]

It isn't that difficult to get past Set 4, especially in co-op
Yeah and since when have fanboys been co-operative in team games?
Their usualy all scrambling over each other to get the sniper or laser.

[Hotrod]

Not if you play with people you know that are actually not pathetic. :)

[Heathen]

I give it about two weeks before some hardcore devotee beats that.

whaaaat...I give it till the end of opening day.

[Saggy]

Vidmaster: Classic will be extremely easy.

It's basically:
Finished any level solo on Legendary, on LIVE, with no shots fired or grenades thrown .

And I already know the perfect mission to do this on.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

New mombassa streets don't count.

[Saggy]

New mombassa streets don't count.
I know that. The mission I'm talking about is:
The one (can't remember if it's Dutch or Mickey, pretty sure it's Dutch) where you drive the Warthog through the whole level with all the wraiths. I think it's the second mission. As long as you dodge all the wraiths it really isn't that hard.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Oh, that one, :realsmug:

[Darqeness]

So how does death and respawning work in firefight? If you're playing co-op, do dead players respawn at the end of a wave/set or are they completely out of the game once they're killed?

[Kornman00]

If you have lives in your life pool, a life is subtracted when ANYONE dies and they respawn.

If you have no lives and there is one player left, you can respawn still...however, it requires that one player to be a "hero" and beat the current wave of enemies. After the hero does his thing, you'll respawn.

[Limited]

If you have lives in your life pool, a life is subtracted when ANYONE dies and they respawn.

If you have no lives and there is one player left, you can respawn still...however, it requires that one player to be a "hero" and beat the current wave of enemies. After the hero does his thing, you'll respawn.
So, once a wave is complete you get some/all your lives back?

[FRain]

If you preorder from amazon, the code wont arrive for about a week or two.

[tj117]

-snip-
Moral of the story: finish watching videos before posting pictures on the internet.

[Kornman00]

So, once a wave is complete you get some/all your lives back?
No, you don't get any lives after a wave, you'll only respawn

[UnevenElefant5]

How can you respawn without lives though :S

[FRain]

You don't. Game over.

[Kornman00]

Like I said...you will only respawn if there is a hero player, who is the last man standing (because there are no more free lives to use for respawning) and who defeats all the enemies in the current wave. Is it really that hard to grasp?

[p0lar_bear]

Okay, you get a pool of free respawns. When they are used up, dead players may only respawn if the last man standing survives the wave.

This means that if only one or two players are down, they will not respawn end of wave?

[Kornman00]

I can't say for sure, but I think if there are two players alive, along with no free lives left, and there is one player in purgatory, that one player will respawn after the wave is finished. I've only experienced the Last Man Standing case because well...I'm usually the guy who is the last one standing :-3

[ShadowSpartan]

I'm usually the guy who is the last one standing :-3
So you lead from the back, just like Marty? :p

[Kornman00]

Yeah, but at least then I'm not the one getting fucked


http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BungiePAXPanel

Someone needs to do a Totally-Looks-Like for Curtis Creamer and John Locke from Lost...I mean, just look at him! All smiling and shit...you can't tell me you don't see it