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sdavis117
June 1st, 2009, 06:44 PM
Well some things I have noticed about ODST in the recent footage (and screenshots on B.Net).

- Brute Plasma Rifle is back
- Flashbacks will take you to a time before the Slip-Space rupture.
- This game is more first-person oriented, even though it does have 3rd person cutscenes.
- This game provides a more limited story, as in it's about you and your squad, not about the greater war.
- The SuperIntendent has been handicapped by the rupture, and you must re enable some of his, well, powernodes/servernodes.
- You get a feeling that New Mombasa was not caught entirely off guard when the Covenant invaded. A stationary Gauss Cannon seems to prove that New Mombasa had defenses in place.
- You can drive vehicles. A short scene of the player shooting a Phantom with a tank proves that.
- More weapons have zoom. This includes the SMG.
- There is a new pistol, most likely a modified (and hopefully more useful) Halo 2 magnum.
- This new view Bungie has been talking about highlights things of importance.


Those are just some things that I noticed about ODST. Also Bungie used Bumper Jumper when making this trailer.

ODX
June 1st, 2009, 06:46 PM
I just hope the animations for the new SMG and Pistol are placeholders >:| I'm fine with them reusing Halo 3's animations for other weapons like the sniper/laser and the likes. Just hope we get the Assault Rifle still.

Heathen
June 1st, 2009, 06:48 PM
I saw a bubble shield so I am wondering if they will add any equipment.
I would also love to see new enemy strategies.
Also, who wouldn't love some sort of detonateable explosives hmm?

I saw your post on youtube ODX. I never noticed but I agree.

sdavis117
June 1st, 2009, 06:53 PM
Is that thing right under the compass the health bar?

Donut
June 1st, 2009, 06:57 PM
needs sprinting. downsight aiming would ruin the halo effect, even though i would love it. i definitely would love to see sprinting though

also please dont reuse animations. one set of anims was made for a spartan. i want to see what kind of twist is added to a normal human's animations

ODX
June 1st, 2009, 07:07 PM
needs sprinting. downsight aiming would ruin the halo effect, even though i would love it. i definitely would love to see sprinting thoughThat would make sense, since they had planned to make it for Halo 2 as well. Actually, I think they had, just scrapped it aside later in development.


also please dont reuse animations. one set of anims was made for a spartan. i want to see what kind of twist is added to a normal human's animationsRe-hiring of the Halo 1 animator plox D:

t3h m00kz
June 1st, 2009, 09:33 PM
It looks bad ass as it is, but I'm not gonna get myself worked up like I did for Halo 2. That E3 2003 footage was a LIE.

Saggy
June 1st, 2009, 09:46 PM
One thing to note about the pistol; Joe Staten confirmed that the pistol is in fact the same one from Halo: Combat Evolved, not the magnum from Halo 2.

BobtheGreatII
June 1st, 2009, 09:50 PM
One thing to note about the pistol; Joe Staten confirmed that the pistol is in fact the same one from Halo: Combat Evolved, not the magnum from Halo 2.

Well it's most obviously not the same pistol. I believe they were talking about the rate of fire and probably the damage it does.

Cause it doesn't look at all like the Halo 1 pistol.

Masterz1337
June 1st, 2009, 09:51 PM
Its the H2 pistol, but it seems to be a lot more powerful.

Saggy
June 1st, 2009, 09:51 PM
Well it's most obviously not the same pistol. I believe they were talking about the rate of fire and probably the damage it does.

Cause it doesn't look at all like the Halo 1 pistol.
Ahh, you're right. I misunderstood what he had said. He said that for anyone that remembers the Halo 1 pistol, then you're going to love the one in this game.

Heathen
June 1st, 2009, 10:01 PM
They meant the zoom >.>

Wow.

Why is no one getting that?

Sel
June 1st, 2009, 10:52 PM
halo 3 pc

make it good

Ki11a_FTW
June 1st, 2009, 11:08 PM
No brutes, I want to kill some elites now

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 12:57 AM
Its the Halo 2 Magnum. A render on Bungie.net shows "M6C" on the right side of the gun. The Halo 1 Pistol is the "M6D".

Anyways, I uploaded the new Halo 3 ODST Gameplay Trailer on Bungie.net to Youtube. For anyone that cant play it on Bungie.net
Its in HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rsCSoBczkU

supersniper
June 2nd, 2009, 01:00 AM
Its the H2 pistol, but it seems to be a lot more powerful.It's really the halo 1 pistol with the halo 2 skin
shh but don't tell anyone ;)

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 01:41 AM
It's really the halo 1 pistol with the halo 2 skin
shh but don't tell anyone ;)
Why is there so much confusion?
Am I the only one that can see that its just the halo 2 pistol with zoom and a power boost?

DEElekgolo
June 2nd, 2009, 01:49 AM
http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/7486/firewut.png
Halo 2 style hud indicators eh?

Amit
June 2nd, 2009, 01:55 AM
Look at the renders and screenshots on the ODST page. READ THE CAPTIONS. They help.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 02:03 AM
HUD details:

Grenade icons and weapon information have moved to the bottom.
Theres a health bar at the top, under a compass.
The compass shows the direction of the objective. Since you dont have an AI guiding you.
There is no motion sensor.
The color of the HUD is now orange-ish.
There is a new visor.
There is a low light visor that is similar to a flashlight, but lights up everything in your sight. And outlines objects.
The HUD lights glows on the top and bottom if you are near something important. Such as an objective.
Theres a red outline that appears when you have low health.

lol, I found a modeling/smoothing error on the pistol used on Halo 3 ODST (M6C, Halo 1 Pistol)

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/renders/Halo3-ODST_Automag-Pistol-02.jpg

Look at the left side of the gun. Its near the end barrel.

Anyways, did anyone notice that theres 3 frag grenades?
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/H3ODST_Firefight_SecurityZone1stPerson.jpg

Anyways, SMG comparisons between the H3 and ODST SMGs

(Images are the same size)
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/H3ODST_Firefight_SecurityZone1stPerson.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/h3smg_1280x720.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/smg_comparison1.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/smg_comparison2.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/smg_comparison3.jpg

And the animations seem a bit different, judging by origins. And the H3 ODST SMG reticle is definitely smaller.

_________________________________________________
More HUD Info:
The ODST HUD is basically an upside down spartan HUD.
The ODST health bar drains like so:
______________________
/>------------0--------------<\
Drains towards the middle, with the least near the middle, and the most at the ends.


Also, the H3 ODST SMG has 48 rounds per clip. 16 across, 3 down. In exchange for more rounds, than the normal 180.
And the HUD seems more curved. As though Bungie made new bitmaps for the HUD. Either that or their Guerilla has a rotation value.


Sorry for the huge post.

p0lar_bear
June 2nd, 2009, 05:00 AM
And the HUD seems more curved. As though Bungie made new bitmaps for the HUD. Either that or their Guerilla has a rotation value.Halo 3's HUDs are distorted based on the current camera. Notice how it flattens out when you enter a vehicle or a turret?

This isn't like Halo 1 where you need to "bake" the curviness into the bitmap.

=sw=warlord
June 2nd, 2009, 06:32 AM
Am i the only one who noticed this...
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3309/hmm.jpg
five slots only one lit up and in counter there is only one grenade left, new kind of grenade ammo counter?
That's it... i want to know how the hell is a ODST going to take on a raging brute chieftain on legendary with that god damned grav hammer, they were enough pain on halo 3 as a spartan.
E: am i the only one who thinks the recon helmet looks stupid on top of a ODST body?

sevlag
June 2nd, 2009, 07:33 AM
E: am i the only one who thinks the recon helmet looks stupid on top of a ODST body?
i agree, gonna pre-order so i can play as johnson in firefight mode :D

fuck recon, i have johnson


looks sexy and i love how they brought back the halo 2 pistol and added a zoom and upped its power...its the things i hated about the halo 1 pistol (zoom scope) with the sheer awesomeness of the halo 2's rapid fire magnum

=sw=warlord
June 2nd, 2009, 07:36 AM
Also it seems ODST's helmets can change the shade so you can see the wearers face, i wonder if they were testing this with the beta for halo 3 way back when.http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3956/screenhunter01jun021225.jpg

Hotrod
June 2nd, 2009, 07:43 AM
Also it seems ODST's helmets can change the shade so you can see the wearers face, i wonder if they were testing this with the beta for halo 3 way back when.http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3956/screenhunter01jun021225.jpg
The Spartan helmets can do the same thing, as shown in the books. You just don't see it happen in the game.

=sw=warlord
June 2nd, 2009, 07:58 AM
The Spartan helmets can do the same thing, as shown in the books. You just don't see it happen in the game.
I know what i ment was were they working on doing this in halo 3 with other spartans as it's well known from the beta there were faces under the masks and there was always that whole XBM thing saying there were more spartans.

sevlag
June 2nd, 2009, 08:56 AM
too bad campaign wasn't true co-op

still looks fun and i can't wait, now people will actually have to THINK instead of violently charging a group of enemies

halo3:

oh lulz, look a hunter, ima beat it with my spikar


H3:ODST:

OH SHI...a hunter, fuck fuck fuuuuck


all in all, i think this will force players to think and will make this a better game than halo 3

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 09:25 AM
Am i the only one who noticed this...
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3309/hmm.jpg
five slots only one lit up and in counter there is only one grenade left, new kind of grenade ammo counter?
That's it... i want to know how the hell is a ODST going to take on a raging brute chieftain on legendary with that god damned grav hammer, they were enough pain on halo 3 as a spartan.
E: am i the only one who thinks the recon helmet looks stupid on top of a ODST body?

Those arent grenades. The icons on the bottom left are grenades. Same grenade counter as the spartan HUD. And there are 3 frags left.

So I heard there was a Halo 3: ODST Collectors Edition that includes an ODST controller selling for $100, apart from the standard Halo 3: ODST for $60

The answer to that is

M$ + $40 controller = :ohboy:

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 11:01 AM
I'm a little disappointed that the game is going to run for $60, as I thought they originally said it would be released for cheaper than a standalone game.

And then I see stuff like this (http://kotaku.com/photogallery/haloodste3/1008522621?viewSize=thumb1280x1280)

I'm hoping it's a worthwhile game, looking most forward to the shift in formula from a "One man unstoppable killing machine" to "Tactical squad based combat." Oh, and while Firefight sounds like it could be entertaining, I am getting tired of game companies blatantly using the idea's of their predecessors and trying to play it off like they are using a more original idea. We'll have to see though. Maybe Bungie can shift the gameplay and tactical defense around enough to make it unique. Buuuuuut I doubt it.

Oh, and if the ODST's have recharging health for whatever magical reason, I'm going to be PISSED. Recharging health needs to gtfo out mah games :saddowns:

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 11:06 AM
Well, the game is coming out with a standalone disc that includes every Multiplayer map, including DLC, stock maps, and the new Mythic Maps. Citadel, Heretic, Longshore.

ICEE
June 2nd, 2009, 11:27 AM
It better be a nice lengthy campaign. Some hl2esque puzzles might be interesting too in a dilapidated city setting like i'm expecting. I'm curious as to what other upgraded weapons there will be.

=sw=warlord
June 2nd, 2009, 11:34 AM
Oh, and if the ODST's have recharging health for whatever magical reason, I'm going to be PISSED. Recharging health needs to gtfo out mah games :saddowns:
In the game play the rookies health got low but slowly regenerated.

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 12:01 PM
In the game play the rookies health got low but slowly regenerated.
God dammit :mad:

A brilliant chance to revitalize things, and Bungie takes the easy way out.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 12:03 PM
Medpacks ftw

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 12:05 PM
Medpacks ftw
This, o/

Regenerating health makes games way too easy, and in a lot of cases, horrifically unrealistic (sup Call of Duty 4)

TVTyrant
June 2nd, 2009, 12:08 PM
Anyone else notice that there's no duel-wielding? Its probably because your playing as a regular human instead of the MC, but I just though it was an interesting find.
I hope they introduce some completely new weapons too though. I'd be really disappointed if they didn't.

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 12:09 PM
Anyone else notice that there's no duel-wielding? Its probably because your playing as a regular human instead of the MC, but I just though it was an interesting find.
I hope they introduce some completely new weapons too though. I'd be really disappointed if they didn't.
Although apparently ODST's can still carry the staggering weight of a tripod-mounted turret, as seen here

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/features/img_header/firefight.jpg

TVTyrant
June 2nd, 2009, 12:12 PM
Okay, that kind of ruins the point of no duel wielding.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 12:14 PM
I understand not dual wielding the new SMG, but what about the plasma rifle, spiker, plasma pistol, brute plasma rifle, etc?

SilentChaos
June 2nd, 2009, 01:27 PM
Waiting for some gameplay on Firefight Mode. :cool:

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 01:35 PM
Ugh, I really hope Bungie isn't going to do something stupid by altering this squad of ODST's to be as powerful, or nearly as powerful as Spartan's. That'd be an epic failure.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 01:47 PM
o hai guys, were odsts made by bungie. though were human, bungie made us as powerful as the spartans. all bungie did was replace our models and animations into the spartans tags.

nooBBooze
June 2nd, 2009, 01:49 PM
Ugh, I really hope Bungie isn't going to do something stupid by altering this squad of ODST's to be as powerful, or nearly as powerful as Spartan's. That'd be an epic failure.

This although there doesn't seem to be much teamplay involved so it already looks like generic supehuman run and gunning all over again.

Also, the fingerless gloves really make no sense at all. I mean those guys are dealing with fucking plasma projectiles here.

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 01:52 PM
Also, the fingerless gloves really make no sense at all. I mean those guys are dealing with fucking plasma projectiles here.
Yeah, but if Bungie was going for realism, which they clearly aren't, plasma would burn straight through their armor just as easily as their fingers.

BobtheGreatII
June 2nd, 2009, 01:53 PM
God you guys are dumb.

Bungie already stated that the ODST is much weaker than a Spartan. So up front and personal kind of tactics are a bit out of the question. The Brutes are much larger and will do more damage to you if you go head to head with them.

And as for all these plasma questions... I have to say, it doesn't ever look like pure plasma is running down the gun as they are firing it. So I don't think you have to worry about it too much.

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 01:55 PM
Bungie already stated that the ODST is much weaker than a Spartan. So up front and personal kind of tactics are a bit out of the question. The Brutes are much larger and will do more damage to you if you go head to head with them.

Doesn't change the fact that for some reason they have regenerating health and the massive amount of strength required to carry a turret around while firing it. So you get more damage done to you, means absolutely nothing when you have regenerating health.

nooBBooze
June 2nd, 2009, 01:59 PM
Yeah, but if Bungie was going for realism, which they clearly aren't, plasma would burn straight through their armor just as easily as their fingers.
Sure but it's an aestetic detail that was intended to look realistic [supa leet] but is seriously misplaced here. I mean if it werent for their hands, soldiers would be useless and if even a minor plasma spill [plasma rifle overheat anyone?] could completely burn through them well..
Advancedbo is right.

sevlag
June 2nd, 2009, 02:02 PM
Doesn't change the fact that for some reason they have regenerating health and the massive amount of strength required to carry a turret around while firing it. So you get more damage done to you, means absolutely nothing when you have regenerating health.
buffout maybe? xP

anyways i hope the health thing is like CoD4, so i dunno why its a problem (still would have liked health packs)

but i can see WHY they made the health a regen thing...its a big fucking city, chances are med kits would be scarce and all those encounters on legendary would basically use up ALL the med packs


overall I think its still gonna be worht buying, but its a shame its going for the full game price :\

Masterz1337
June 2nd, 2009, 02:03 PM
It's a video game...

Edit: At first it was not worht being a 60$ game, but look at it this way.

20$ for ODST SP
10$ For Mythic Part 2
10$ for Reach Beta
5$ for Firefight
15$ for all other DLC.

nooBBooze
June 2nd, 2009, 02:09 PM
It's a video game...

So?
They didn't supend my disbelief.
They better not fail to entertain.

=sw=warlord
June 2nd, 2009, 02:12 PM
Waiting for some gameplay on Firefight Mode. :cool:
check out the trailer on live it has some for you, including a golden hunter.

sdavis117
June 2nd, 2009, 02:16 PM
In the game play the rookies health got low but slowly regenerated.

If you looked closely, you saw that he walked over a Health Pack when his health regenerated.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 02:44 PM
If you looked closely, you saw that he walked over a Health Pack when his health regenerated.

Sure it isnt debris?

BobtheGreatII
June 2nd, 2009, 03:03 PM
So?
They didn't supend my disbelief.
They better not fail to entertain.

Or what? You won't buy their game? I bet they're scared. : /

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 03:19 PM
Am i the only one who noticed this...
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/3309/hmm.jpg
five slots only one lit up and in counter there is only one grenade left, new kind of grenade ammo counter?
That's it... i want to know how the hell is a ODST going to take on a raging brute chieftain on legendary with that god damned grav hammer, they were enough pain on halo 3 as a spartan.
E: am i the only one who thinks the recon helmet looks stupid on top of a ODST body?
I would guess some kind of alternative explosive.
Sort of like a BRG.

God you guys are dumb.

Bungie already stated that the ODST is much weaker than a Spartan. So up front and personal kind of tactics are a bit out of the question. The Brutes are much larger and will do more damage to you if you go head to head with them.

And as for all these plasma questions... I have to say, it doesn't ever look like pure plasma is running down the gun as they are firing it. So I don't think you have to worry about it too much.
Well they better not do that "TO FLIP THE FUCKING VEHICLE LIKE A FUCKING GIANT PRESS RB" thing. If an ODST flips a vehicle, it should be a struggle to flip the fucker depending on its size.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 03:41 PM
I would guess some kind of alternative explosive.
Sort of like a BRG.

Well they better not do that "TO FLIP THE FUCKING VEHICLE LIKE A FUCKING GIANT PRESS RB" thing. If an ODST flips a vehicle, it should be a struggle to flip the fucker depending on its size.

Thats not the grenade counter...

Or maybe you have to get other ODSTs near you to flip a vehicle.

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 03:45 PM
Thats not the grenade counter...

Or maybe you have to get other ODSTs near you to flip a vehicle.
He is right, I forgot. that ISNT the grenade counter.

Also, health regenerates. Think about it. What are the odds that in EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF FOOTAGE we have seen and we havent seen him running around with health missing.

Masterz1337
June 2nd, 2009, 04:00 PM
Thats not the grenade counter...

Or maybe you have to get other ODSTs near you to flip a vehicle.

That would be really cool, especially for firefight when you're trying to do something and need your whole team.

sdavis117
June 2nd, 2009, 04:16 PM
Sure it isnt debris?

Nope, it looks like a health pack to me. And since it is the only time in the demo where he regains health (he doesn't lose any during the other parts of the demo), I assume that Health Packs are the way that it will work.

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 04:22 PM
That would be really cool, especially for firefight when you're trying to do something and need your whole team.
yes

Nope, it looks like a health pack to me. And since it is the only time in the demo where he regains health (he doesn't lose any during the other parts of the demo), I assume that Health Packs are the way that it will work.
no

BobtheGreatII
June 2nd, 2009, 04:25 PM
That would be really cool, especially for firefight when you're trying to do something and need your whole team.

I agree. Teamwork being key would be neat... but then again, we are talking about the mass majority of douchebags on Halo 3...

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 04:35 PM
Bob has a point. Not like this is tactical gameplay like Gears of War...owait there are douchebags there too :saddowns:

sdavis117
June 2nd, 2009, 04:36 PM
no

Where has Bungie stated otherwise? I did not see regenerating health in any of the videos.

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 04:37 PM
Where has Bungie stated otherwise? I did not see regenerating health in any of the videos.
You also never see him with anything less than full health.
I doubt health would be that plentiful.

sevlag
June 2nd, 2009, 04:46 PM
You also never see him with anything less than full health.
I doubt health would be that plentiful.fact...
the city is in ruins, most of the supplies would probably be buried under rubble

if the health recharge works ala CoD4 then i won't have THAT big of the problem

and the turret thing...easy answer...the dude is a steroid abuser, plain and simple

TeeKup
June 2nd, 2009, 04:48 PM
I'm sorry. I'm really iffy on this whole project. The drop pod scene in the beginning of the trailer was more reminiscent of UT3 than halo, in fact that entire scene was the most non halo thing I have seen.

:/

BobtheGreatII
June 2nd, 2009, 05:03 PM
I'm sorry. I'm really iffy on this whole project. The drop pod scene in the beginning of the trailer was more reminiscent of UT3 than halo, in fact that entire scene was the most non halo thing I have seen.

:/


Honestly, the first time I played Halo 3, I hated it.

It didn't feel like playing halo at all. Everything was so shiny and everything looked so different. It just didn't feel right. But it grew on me. I'm not judging too quickly until I actually get to play it.

sdavis117
June 2nd, 2009, 05:04 PM
The First Person angle and the whole drop scene might have not felt like Halo, but the dialog felt Halo-y enough for me.

Masterz1337
June 2nd, 2009, 05:04 PM
And if it were more of the same you'd be disappointed because Bungie isn't doing anything new :rolleyes:

=sw=warlord
June 2nd, 2009, 05:06 PM
I'm sorry. I'm really iffy on this whole project. The drop pod scene in the beginning of the trailer was more reminiscent of UT3 than halo, in fact that entire scene was the most non halo thing I have seen.

:/
Seems more like the intro to halo 1 to me, with the drop escape pod.

ODX
June 2nd, 2009, 05:10 PM
And if it were more of the same you'd be disappointed because Bungie isn't doing anything new :rolleyes:.

Just let Bungie do what they want to do, because no matter how much you bitch or whine, they won't change it. If you don't like the game anymore, then fine, don't play it, and quit ruining everyone else's opinion of the game still in it's early stages.

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 05:10 PM
And if it were more of the same you'd be disappointed because Bungie isn't doing anything new :rolleyes:
I must agree with you masterz

sdavis117
June 2nd, 2009, 05:10 PM
Remember guys, this is a whole new game. The only thing that is the same is the setting and the enemy. This game is meant to be more personal. It's meant to pull you in more, and give you a small piece of the big picture, instead of every detail about the war (like the previous Halo games).

This new feeling is appropriate for such a task, and the dialog does feel like that of your Marine AI allies in the past Halo games. You're one of them now, not a super soldier getting ordered around by an AI (excluding your limited interactions with the SI).

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 05:16 PM
Remember guys, this is a whole new game. The only thing that is the same is the setting and the enemy. This game is meant to be more personal. It's meant to pull you in more, and give you a small piece of the big picture, instead of every detail about the war (like the previous Halo games).

This new feeling is appropriate for such a task, and the dialog does feel like that of your Marine AI allies in the past Halo games. You're one of them now, not a super soldier getting ordered around by an AI (excluding your limited interactions with the SI).
on the contrary, its actually NOT more of the big picture, its a more limited view.

sdavis117
June 2nd, 2009, 05:18 PM
on the contrary, its actually NOT more of the big picture, its a more limited view.

That's what I said.

Unless you meant the other Halos were more of a limited view

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 05:25 PM
That's what I said.

Unless you meant the other Halos were more of a limited view
oh wow, I am in idiot.
I read it wrong.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 06:19 PM
If only there was a new Marathon with 3d graphics...

sevlag
June 2nd, 2009, 07:00 PM
If only there was a new Marathon with 3d graphics...
:D this

jngrow
June 2nd, 2009, 07:49 PM
This looks pretty sick, Firefight looks like a more fun version of GoW's Horder mode/L4D's survival.

t3h m00kz
June 2nd, 2009, 09:11 PM
And if it were more of the same you'd be disappointed because Bungie isn't doing anything new :rolleyes:

Of course

Option 1: Change things, people will say it's fucking up a perfect system.
Option 2: Keep things the same, people will say the devs are lazy and can't think of anything new.

And it looked like a health pack, not regenerating health. Why would health regenerate from low as fuck to full so instantly?

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 09:54 PM
Of course

Option 1: Change things, people will say it's fucking up a perfect system.
Option 2: Keep things the same, people will say the devs are lazy and can't think of anything new.

And it looked like a health pack, not regenerating health. Why would health regenerate from low as fuck to full so instantly?
where? what video?

Corndogman
June 2nd, 2009, 10:22 PM
Is it just me or does this chick ODST look fucking stupid with this helmet on?

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/field_guide/dare/inline_dare.gif

Joshflighter
June 2nd, 2009, 10:24 PM
Yes, it looks useless.. lmao.

Advancebo
June 2nd, 2009, 10:34 PM
Is it just me or does this chick ODST look fucking stupid with this helmet on?

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/field_guide/dare/inline_dare.gif

Watcha talking about, she looks hot :allears:

:fail:

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 10:35 PM
Watcha talking about, she looks hot :allears:
I get turned on by chicks wearing armor too, it's okay :highfive:

Saggy
June 2nd, 2009, 10:38 PM
Just to clarify about how you regain health, here's a quote from Joystiq's hands-on experience with the new Firefight mode:

While ODSTs might have this slight advantage over Master Chief, it's important to remember that they have additional human frailties. That means they don't have regenerating shields (hence the health packs) and, yes, they take damage when falling long distances.So yeah, there will be health packs :mysterysolved:

Also, for the whole hands-on write up: http://www.joystiq.com/2009/06/02/hands-on-with-halo-3-odsts-new-firefight-mode/

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 10:41 PM
Oh good. Faith is restored :D

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 10:48 PM
Yes, it looks useless.. lmao.
same idgi

looks retarded on spartans too
fuck yes health packs

Masterz1337
June 2nd, 2009, 10:52 PM
Apparently you have something called stamina, and when then is shot away your health takes damage. It's pretty much the H1 health system :)

BobtheGreatII
June 2nd, 2009, 11:00 PM
Yay, I loved Halo 1's health system. :neckbeard:

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 11:16 PM
Apparently you have something called stamina, and when then is shot away your health takes damage. It's pretty much the H1 health system :)
Stamina could be used to sprint also.
And sprinting could make you more vulnerable.

p0lar_bear
June 2nd, 2009, 11:30 PM
Oh, so firefight is pretty much nuts.map.

Heathen
June 2nd, 2009, 11:41 PM
Oh, so firefight is pretty much nuts.map.
Pretty much.

I think its a "waves" like gametype.

BobtheGreatII
June 2nd, 2009, 11:50 PM
Oh, so firefight is pretty much nuts.map.

To me it just sounds like the Hordes gametype thing in Gears of War.

Jean-Luc
June 2nd, 2009, 11:53 PM
To me it just sounds like the Hordes gametype thing in Gears of War.
Why does everyone forget Invasion from UT2004? That's where it all came from.

BobtheGreatII
June 2nd, 2009, 11:58 PM
Why does everyone forget Invasion from UT2004? That's where it all came from.

Didn't play much of UT2004... :saddowns:

Pooky
June 3rd, 2009, 03:25 AM
Apparently you have something called stamina, and when then is shot away your health takes damage. It's pretty much the H1 health system :)
Just pointing out, that still happens in Halo 3 only your health regenerates and you have no health bar for some dumb reason.

sevlag
June 3rd, 2009, 11:48 AM
I get turned on by chicks wearing armor too, it's okay :highfive:i'd laugh if she removes her helmet in game and she has a fish face xD

Terry
June 3rd, 2009, 12:34 PM
I'm not sure if this was posted but : http://video.ign.com/streaming/e3-2009/index.html?start=0&stop=1803&show=0&ep=http%3A//cms001.slc1.qcn3.movenetworks.com/cms/publish/vod/vodclip/foxign/5532.qvt

Staten confirms alot of campaign features and also that heretic is midship.

ICEE
June 3rd, 2009, 12:40 PM
Oh, so firefight is pretty much nuts.map.

except its possible to win and without the piss annoying voice telling me what to do and stopping me from using cheats.

Heathen
June 3rd, 2009, 02:00 PM
I'm not sure if this was posted but : http://video.ign.com/streaming/e3-2009/index.html?start=0&stop=1803&show=0&ep=http%3A//cms001.slc1.qcn3.movenetworks.com/cms/publish/vod/vodclip/foxign/5532.qvt

Staten confirms alot of campaign features and also that heretic is midship.
heretic has been known.

http://video.ign.com/streaming/e3-2009/index.html?start=0&stop=1803&show=0&ep=http%3A//cms001.slc1.qcn3.movenetworks.com/cms/publish/vod/vodclip/foxign/5532.qvt
definitely medkits.

E: JUST REALIZED, NO RADAR :O
E: And a nice Deep teabag.
E: Its all co-op.

Pooky
June 3rd, 2009, 02:41 PM
heretic has been known.

http://video.ign.com/streaming/e3-2009/index.html?start=0&stop=1803&show=0&ep=http%3A//cms001.slc1.qcn3.movenetworks.com/cms/publish/vod/vodclip/foxign/5532.qvt
definitely medkits.

E: JUST REALIZED, NO RADAR :O
E: And a nice Deep teabag.
E: Its all co-op.

I like how nobody in that video thought to ask how an ODST could possibly be strong enough to hold and fire an unmounted turret <_<

Moreover, you can't dual wield but you can do that. The fuck?

Heathen
June 3rd, 2009, 02:42 PM
I like how nobody in that video thought to ask how an ODST could possibly be strong enough to hold and fire an unmounted turret <_<

Moreover, you can't dual wield but you can do that. The fuck?
No one said you can't dual wield I dont think.
E: nvm

TVTyrant
June 4th, 2009, 02:01 AM
Maybe the turret doesn't wigh as much as we think it would? Its the future man, everything is a form of titanium.

Pyong Kawaguchi
June 4th, 2009, 07:51 AM
I like how this game seems to have a bit of a higher fov, and it seems less hold r, press b gameplay.

sevlag
June 4th, 2009, 08:36 AM
I like how nobody in that video thought to ask how an ODST could possibly be strong enough to hold and fire an unmounted turret <_<



steroids...nuff said

Pooky
June 4th, 2009, 10:37 AM
Maybe the turret doesn't wigh as much as we think it would? Its the future man, everything is a form of titanium.

Unless it was made of aluminum and shot feathers, any hunk of metal that size would be pretty fucking heavy.

BobtheGreatII
June 4th, 2009, 12:53 PM
You guys are all just wimps. I could easily pick that up. :realsmug:

sevlag
June 4th, 2009, 12:56 PM
You guys are all just wimps. I could easily pick that up. :realsmug:have fun throwing out your back

Siliconmaster
June 4th, 2009, 06:18 PM
Has anyone seen this (http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211451/) yet?

Opening of the game, or so it seems. And we get to see everyone with their helmets off. Including Tricia Helfer and Nathan Fillion. Er, I mean Buck and Dare. They look suspiciously alike. ;)

BobtheGreatII
June 4th, 2009, 06:26 PM
Has anyone seen this (http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211451/) yet?

Opening of the game, or so it seems. And we get to see everyone with their helmets off. Including Tricia Helfer and Nathan Fillion. Er, I mean Buck and Dare. They look suspiciously alike. ;)

It was in the e3 thread...

TVTyrant
June 5th, 2009, 12:13 AM
You guys are all just wimps. I could easily pick that up. :realsmug:
So could I, but holding it for a sustained amount of time and carrying extra shells would be quite difficult. Plus firing would be quite meddlesome.

DEElekgolo
June 5th, 2009, 01:25 AM
Aw5KvJPmfWo

Advancebo
June 5th, 2009, 01:51 AM
The 4 player campaign and free roam campaign around the city makes ODST 3x more epic.

DEElekgolo
June 5th, 2009, 01:59 AM
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=20136

Advancebo
June 5th, 2009, 09:23 AM
In the likely event that you are wounded while operating in the field, you'll be on your own to secure and acquire medical supplies. Your vitality is decidedly human – no enhanced super soldier genetics at play here - and when you become injured by enemy fire (and you will) you’ll need to locate and utilize New Mombasa’s civilian medical kiosks or obtain health packs from other embedded soldiers in the combat zone in order to stop the bleeding and get back into fighting shape.


Health Packs
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/field_guide/healthpack/healthpack.gif
Apply Directly to the Forehead

Jean-Luc
June 5th, 2009, 12:44 PM
Bungie really does seem to be drawing inspiration from Republic Commando. Do like.

BobtheGreatII
June 5th, 2009, 01:46 PM
Bungie really does seem to be drawing inspiration from Republic Commando. Do like.

That was such a great game. Pissed me off there wasn't a sequal. <:mad:>

sevlag
June 5th, 2009, 04:21 PM
That was such a great game. Pissed me off there wasn't a sequal. <:mad:>
same, nothin like poppin off a few geonosian heads with a vibro blade :D

but then again how would a sequel work out realy, according to the books sev dies on kashyyk during the activation of order 66

=sw=warlord
June 5th, 2009, 04:39 PM
DAREhttp://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/field_guide/dare/inline_dare.gif
Full name: [classified]
Blood type: [classified]
Height: [classified]
Weight: [classified]


Rating: [classified]
Unit: [classified]
Service number: [classified]
Enlistment date: [classified]
Location: [classified]


Born: [classified]
Gender: F
Citizen: [classified]
Age: [classified]
Occupation: [classified]
Why do i get the feeling dare is/was maybe involved in the spartan 2 project?...

BobtheGreatII
June 5th, 2009, 04:56 PM
Either that or she's going to have a majorly key part in ODST...

TeeKup
June 5th, 2009, 05:27 PM
That was such a great game. Pissed me off there wasn't a sequal. <:mad:>

OMFG I thought I was the only fan of that game. :gonk:

"Hello little one, your designation will be RP03-138"

Cagerrin
June 5th, 2009, 05:59 PM
OMFG I thought I was the only fan of that game. :gonk:

"Hello little one, your designation will be RP03-138"
oh god

I just reinstalled that yesterday, and suddenly, people actually know it exists.

It's all the soundtrack's fault, actually, but then I realized how much I like the game.

Siliconmaster
June 5th, 2009, 06:01 PM
It was in the e3 thread...

Dang- missed it by 5 hours. Sorry. :embarrassed:

Jean-Luc
June 5th, 2009, 06:04 PM
OMFG I thought I was the only fan of that game. :gonk:

"Hello little one, your designation will be RP03-138"
You kiddin me? One of the best shooters ever :D

Better even than Halo imo (yeah I said it)

p0lar_bear
June 5th, 2009, 06:57 PM
Why do i get the feeling dare is/was maybe involved in the spartan 2 project?...

Maybe because the only things disclosed about her are her codename and sex, as well as the fact that she's wearing that fugly-ass Recon helmet?

I like how they classify her occupation; I'd say it's pretty obvious that she's an Orbital Drop Sho

USER WAS DETAINED BY BUNGIE NINJAS ONI OPERATIVES FOR THIS POST.

Saggy
June 5th, 2009, 10:18 PM
Just thought I'd post this here:


Q. I just checked the Field Guide and I don't see a Battle Rifle. What gives?

A. Halo 3: ODST’s campaign and Firefight modes don’t feature the Battle Rifle. I’d tell you to blame Luke, but don’t worry, once you get your hands on the automag, you’ll forget all about your precious BR. And of course the traditional Halo 3 multiplayer, which you’ll remember from earlier in our conversation, is found on the second disc packed in with Halo 3: ODST, doesn’t make a single feature change to Halo 3’s multiplayer. If you want to four-shot some scrubs, you’re only ever a disc swap away.


Taken from the Bungie Weekly Update.

Reaper Man
June 5th, 2009, 10:41 PM
OMFG I thought I was the only fan of that game. :gonk:

"Hello little one, your designation will be RP03-138"
That game was so kickass. Needs moar sequel.

Advancebo
June 5th, 2009, 11:08 PM
Just thought I'd post this here:



Taken from the Bungie Weekly Update.

BR was fail anyways. Its all about 3sk pistols.

sevlag
June 6th, 2009, 12:01 AM
BR was fail anyways. Its all about 3sk pistols.
inorite?

Pyong Kawaguchi
June 6th, 2009, 12:22 PM
Has anyone been able to get 1366x768 on SWrepublic commando?

nooBBooze
June 6th, 2009, 01:07 PM
You kiddin me? One of the best shooters ever :D

Better even than Halo imo (yeah I said it)
I thought they would turn H3:ODST into a aquad bades shooter like SW:RC.
I'm still dissapointed they wont.

Cagerrin
June 6th, 2009, 02:37 PM
Has anyone been able to get 1366x768 on SWrepublic commando?
Assuming you're talking about the PC version, look in Lucasarts(or wherever you installed it to)\Star Wars Republic Commando\GameData\System\system.ini

There should be a section in that file called [VideoSettings], scroll down until you're right above the section named [Engine.Engine]. The last block in VideoSettings is the one that needs to be changed, I think, though I suppose you could change all the blocks in that section. In each block there's four lines, like this:

WindowedViewportX=640
WindowedViewportY=480
FullscreenViewportX=640
FullscreenViewportY=480

Change each of those to whatever you want, like so:

WindowedViewportX=1366
WindowedViewportY=768
FullscreenViewportX=1366
FullscreenViewportY=768

sevlag
June 6th, 2009, 03:35 PM
speaking of RC, installing it noaw :D see if it works with this laptop

FRain
June 6th, 2009, 09:08 PM
It's funny no one has said this yet:

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=15547

This was one of the short viral posts for Recon as it was named then, and if you look, one of the lines reads as:

[STATIC (2.8179s)]
[EXPLOSION (3.0194s)]
[STATIC (7.4501s)]
[SMN.ACTUAL]: “Didn’t think you S1 types ever left your cave.”
[DARE.V.500341(S1)]: “Desperate times...”
[SMN.ACTUAL]: “Alright, Captain. You’ve got your squad.”
[SMN.ACTUAL]: “If I survive the attack."

Now, I'm going to assume that S1 refers to Spartan I as in the Spartan I project.

Yes.

You heard me.

Dare is a Spartan I.

BobtheGreatII
June 6th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Your point is valid my good sir. :allears:

Disaster
June 6th, 2009, 10:15 PM
Man, and to think bungie was going to actually develop a game without a single spartan in it.

We should have seen it coming.

Pretty hardcore though.

Bodzilla
June 6th, 2009, 10:53 PM
Health Packs
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/field_guide/healthpack/healthpack.gif
Apply Directly to the Forehead

Rofl

Jean-Luc
June 6th, 2009, 10:55 PM
Bod, I swear, every time you post and I see that Sin Episodes chick...it just makes the world seem great.

Huero
June 6th, 2009, 11:52 PM
It's funny no one has said this yet:

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=15547

This was one of the short viral posts for Recon as it was named then, and if you look, one of the lines reads as:

[STATIC (2.8179s)]
[EXPLOSION (3.0194s)]
[STATIC (7.4501s)]
[SMN.ACTUAL]: “Didn’t think you S1 types ever left your cave.”
[DARE.V.500341(S1)]: “Desperate times...”
[SMN.ACTUAL]: “Alright, Captain. You’ve got your squad.”
[SMN.ACTUAL]: “If I survive the attack."

Now, I'm going to assume that S1 refers to Spartan I as in the Spartan I project.

Yes.

You heard me.

Dare is a Spartan I.

"Originally, S1 was thought to possibly refer to SPARTAN-I, a program that predated the Human-Covenant War, but she was confirmed by Joseph Staten not to be a Spartan[3]."
oh
what's that frain
i didn't hear you, mind repeating? (it means section 1 by the way)

Jean-Luc
June 6th, 2009, 11:58 PM
Oh, so she's an ONI operative is she? Neat.

Heathen
June 7th, 2009, 12:41 AM
onionionioni

its gonna be legit

=sw=warlord
June 7th, 2009, 07:31 AM
Oh, so she's an ONI operative is she? Neat.
Wasn't ONI section 3 not section 1?

TVTyrant
June 7th, 2009, 12:16 PM
Wasn't ONI section 3 not section 1?
No, Section 3 is part of ONI. Its the most top secret part, thus the SPARTANS are part of section 1 because they went public, but all their files are section 3 because they were created by illicit means. The Spartan-IIIs are the only ones still part of Section 3.

Cortexian
June 9th, 2009, 12:38 AM
In the following video, all the Firefly voice actors are so much more apparent than in previous games amirite?

RQT-7bk9ICU

0:07-0:09 - Captain Reynolds
0:50-0:52 - Wash
0:52-0:53 - Jayne
0:56-0:58 - Wash again...
0:59-1:02 - Jayne again...
1:41-1:43 - Wash again...

Add any more if you notice them...

Limited
June 14th, 2009, 08:41 PM
Thought I'd post some gameplay videos, along with interview, lots of info.

UQ8wk2bbeq8

rXZViOGdq5M

krgTp5RYp7U

DEElekgolo
June 18th, 2009, 12:14 AM
Elephants you say?

Heathen
June 18th, 2009, 12:57 AM
heh, l/e fants

BobtheGreatII
June 18th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Lol, ODST SGT Johnson:

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/renders/medium/Halo3-ODST_Sgt_Johnson_cutout_W_Alpha.gif

Masterz1337
June 18th, 2009, 01:52 PM
Wow, he looks so much better than in H3.

sevlag
June 18th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Lol, ODST SGT Johnson:

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/renders/medium/Halo3-ODST_Sgt_Johnson_cutout_W_Alpha.gifwhy i pre-bought it,

BobtheGreatII
June 18th, 2009, 02:29 PM
Yeah, I'm going to have too also. Maybe save enough for the special edition one with the controller. Just cause.

sevlag
June 18th, 2009, 02:43 PM
Yeah, I'm going to have too also. Maybe save enough for the special edition one with the controller. Just cause.
you cant stop johnson :D

Heathen
June 18th, 2009, 02:53 PM
Wow, he looks so much better than in H3.
Yeah, less...dead.

BobtheGreatII
June 18th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Yeah, less...dead.

Nice post. :lmao:

Edit: Bleh, I can't +rep you.

p0lar_bear
June 18th, 2009, 04:02 PM
Isn't H3 ODST also supposed to be purchasable from LIVE marketplace as well as bought on disc? I remember reading about that ages ago yet all I'm hearing about now is that it's going to be just a 2-disc set...

007useless
June 18th, 2009, 04:32 PM
you cant stop johnson :D 343 Guilty spark did ^_^

BobtheGreatII
June 18th, 2009, 06:28 PM
Isn't H3 ODST also supposed to be purchasable from LIVE marketplace as well as bought on disc? I remember reading about that ages ago yet all I'm hearing about now is that it's going to be just a 2-disc set...

The last time I heard that it was going to be downloaded from the marketplace was when it was still called Halo 3: Recon. So I honestly couldn't tell you for sure. But I would lean more towards you having to go buy it from a retailer.

klange
June 18th, 2009, 06:39 PM
343 Guilty spark did ^_^
You know, honestly, we don't know that. He could have escaped just as the ring was firing. Hell, he could have survived the god damn ring. How? He's fucking Johnson.

Last I heard, it wasn't going to be downloadable. Which is stupid. They should just let me download it, damn it.

Advancebo
June 18th, 2009, 07:01 PM
Isn't H3 ODST also supposed to be purchasable from LIVE marketplace as well as bought on disc? I remember reading about that ages ago yet all I'm hearing about now is that it's going to be just a 2-disc set...

But then you would be downloading Campaign, Firefight, and Theater. Along with the multiplayer package.

Advancebo
June 18th, 2009, 07:09 PM
It’s also here that you’ll also be able to fiddle with the various character models you’ve unlocked if you haven’t already customized your player model (yes, there are custom armor permutations for use in Firefight), mix and match your armor's color accents, emblems, and backgrounds, and make sure your Service Tag is set exactly how you like it.Firefight Lobby:
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline09/odst/lobby.jpg

Firefight HUD Information:
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline09/odst/hud_color.jpg
(You share the lives with the other players)

Another Firefight map:
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/imagery/screenshots/medium/Halo3-ODST_Johnson-Firefight-1stP-01.jpg
(seems large since theres a warthog)

NO YOU!!!
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/TopNews09/odst_johnson.jpg

Timo
June 18th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Damn, I've always wanted a horde like gametype in Halo. Too bad I don't have a 360 anymore ._.

sevlag
June 18th, 2009, 07:23 PM
You know, honestly, we don't know that. He could have escaped just as the ring was firing. Hell, he could have survived the god damn ring. How? He's fucking Johnson.

.

damn right :P

DEElekgolo
June 18th, 2009, 07:46 PM
He probably hugs a flood this time instead of an elite.
sNocE4N-5JM

Advancebo
June 18th, 2009, 08:27 PM
Or a sentinel, and it transported him from destruction.

sevlag
June 18th, 2009, 08:44 PM
Or a sentinel, and it transported him from destruction.or the ultimate being on the face of the world...BENJAMIN CARMINE!!! (see uncyclopedia)
made him a space ship out of rocks and spit

Needles
June 19th, 2009, 03:19 PM
On xbox.com it says it'll be $60 =S

Doesn't look like it's worth that much at all.

BobtheGreatII
June 19th, 2009, 04:25 PM
On xbox.com it says it'll be $60 =S

Doesn't look like it's worth that much at all.

It's a full game. Originally when Bungie started working on it, they said that it wasn't going to be very long at all. And like they said in their podcast, it's grown a ton.
And what do you mean it doesn't look worth it? It's got a full game, all the maps, a new multiplayer style, and 2 discs, one including the full Halo 3 Multiplayer. Seems like a great deal to me.

And Masterz broke down the price quite nicely. Unfortunately I can't find his post.

Masterz1337
June 19th, 2009, 05:51 PM
20$ for SP, 25$ for DLC, 5$ for firefight, 10$ for Reach Beta.

jcap
June 19th, 2009, 06:37 PM
Like you'd actually pay for a beta? Ha.

DLC is a ripoff. It's 3 new maps. Don't even try to compare it to Halo 3's multiplayer.

SP and Firefight are the only two things going for this.

tbh, it should be no more than $30-40

Masterz1337
June 19th, 2009, 06:53 PM
I would have paid for H3B if I didn't get it for free. Preview the new halo game for 10$? Doesn't sound unreasonable for me. When I say 25 DLC I mean ALL DLC. That's Heroic and CS which are free, but also Legendary (5$), Mythic 1 (10$) Mythic 2 (10$). Still think it's unfair?

How about 30$ for SP, 15$ for firefight, 5$ for all DLC, and 10$ for HR:B.

Advancebo
June 19th, 2009, 08:09 PM
^Reasonable enough. Especially for people that dont even have Halo 3 yet.

jcap
June 19th, 2009, 09:10 PM
Still should be nothing more than an expansion pack. Just the new SP, Firefight, and 3 DLC maps. It could all be DLC too. No reason to keep "Halo 3" if it's a full new game. Just call it Halo: ODST. Really.

Advancebo
June 19th, 2009, 09:48 PM
Its called Halo 3 ODST because it uses Halo 3 stuff, such as models, texuters, animations, and tags. And it uses the same Halo 3 engine.

And its not just the 3 new mythic maps, It includes all the maps, including all stock maps and all DLC maps.

Choking Victim
June 19th, 2009, 10:00 PM
Its called Halo 3 ODST because it uses Halo 3 stuff, such as models, texuters, animations, and tags. And it uses the same Halo 3 engine.

And its not just the 3 new mythic maps, It includes all the maps, including all stock maps and all DLC maps.
If it's a two disc set, I'd think there were some modifications to the engine. Unless Halo 3 ODST is the same size as Halo 3, and they can't fit it all on one disc, but I seriously doubt that tbh.

ICEE
June 20th, 2009, 03:22 AM
Im not happy with the video gameplay I see here. As far as I can tell, Brutes still go down faster than a dropped bowling ball, Rookie can melee pretty hard, not seeing any elite enemies *wtf*, and the pistol seems exactly like the halo 2 pistol with a scope. The h2 pistol was deemed "shit" by the players, but it really did fire that fast, with decent accuracy and one hit headshots, making it a useful tool against unshielded enemies. How is this pistol any different? The smg just feels like a halo 3 AR with a bigger clip...

Good_Apollo
June 20th, 2009, 04:58 AM
Im not happy with the video gameplay I see here. As far as I can tell, Brutes still go down faster than a dropped bowling ball, Rookie can melee pretty hard, not seeing any elite enemies *wtf*, and the pistol seems exactly like the halo 2 pistol with a scope. The h2 pistol was deemed "shit" by the players, but it really did fire that fast, with decent accuracy and one hit headshots, making it a useful tool against unshielded enemies. How is this pistol any different? The smg just feels like a halo 3 AR with a bigger clip...
As an avid Halo fan looking for a different experience I'm pretty sad that so far this game looks like a simple main character reskin. Seriously, why Bungie?

Was really looking forward to this being a hardcore Marine (ODST) experience with you and your squad stuck in New Mombasa after the attack but it looks like it's another one man army with recharging stamina (shields). Which was badass as the Chief...

Rosco
June 20th, 2009, 08:06 AM
If it's a two disc set, I'd think there were some modifications to the engine. Unless Halo 3 ODST is the same size as Halo 3, and they can't fit it all on one disc, but I seriously doubt that tbh.

The main idea behind two disks is that, if you have read the FAQ, is that they want people to be able to install the campaign to their HDDs. The multiplayer can't be, so that's why MP is on a completely different disk.

And Advancebo, that's not entirely true, unless Halo: Reach is on a completely new engine, wouldn't that be the case for Halo: Reach aswell?

Choking Victim
June 20th, 2009, 12:16 PM
The main idea behind two disks is that, if you have read the FAQ, is that they want people to be able to install the campaign to their HDDs. The multiplayer can't be, so that's why MP is on a completely different disk.

And Advancebo, that's not entirely true, unless Halo: Reach is on a completely new engine, wouldn't that be the case for Halo: Reach aswell?
On the podcast they mentioned they did some AI upgrades. That alone tells me it's an upgraded engine. Even if they wanted to put it on one disc, they couldn't in that case. Not to mention the fact that it's shipping with 21 maps not including the campaign.

Masterz1337
June 20th, 2009, 01:02 PM
ODST uses a different engine and tagset than H3 MP. ODST on one disc, H3 MP on the other.

Pyong Kawaguchi
June 20th, 2009, 06:27 PM
I hope that if H3 comes out for pc, this comes out at the same time with it

BobtheGreatII
June 27th, 2009, 12:24 AM
Uhm... wow... I'm at a loss of words about how awesome this really is:

http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline09/Misc/Nathan_Fillion.jpg
http://www.bungie.net/images/News/Inline09/Misc/Nathan_Fillion_Scoped.jpg

:aaaaa:

p0lar_bear
June 27th, 2009, 12:32 AM
Yeah, try firing it like that buddy. I dare you.

:v:

BobtheGreatII
June 27th, 2009, 12:36 AM
Yeah, try firing it like that buddy. I dare you.

:v:

He could do it. Cause he's just that awesome. :ehhh:

Warsaw
June 27th, 2009, 03:15 AM
Needs moar Firefly...=|

Pooky
June 30th, 2009, 03:56 AM
Yeah, try firing it like that buddy. I dare you.

:v:

Fuck, if the Marines can do it one handed on the side of a careening Hornet :|

Heathen
June 30th, 2009, 04:27 AM
Heh.
Pooky.

SonicXtreme
June 30th, 2009, 09:49 AM
Pre ordered my copy today , gonna love playing as johnson :)

Advancebo
June 30th, 2009, 02:21 PM
basically another 2 months before it comes out. but for me, it comes out after school starts, so I wont be able to play it on weekdays. :(

Masterz1337
June 30th, 2009, 02:56 PM
I'm taking the day off for ODST. Did the same thing for H3 and Halo Wars.

Kornman00
June 30th, 2009, 04:42 PM
I would too...if I lived in the states and go the game the day it came out.

:|

Fuck, if the Marines can do it one handed on the side of a careening Hornet :|
But they're marines...from the mother lovin future. Of course they can do tip-top-hot-shit-head-shot-rocket-doo things like that.

DEElekgolo
June 30th, 2009, 07:18 PM
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ICEE
June 30th, 2009, 07:38 PM
^ kindly spoiler that



But they're marines...from the mother lovin future. Of course they can do tip-top-hot-shit-head-shot-rocket-doo things like that.


But hes Malcolm fucking Reynolds. If a space marine can do it, Malcolm Reynolds can do it while naked and wandering in the desert.

=sw=warlord
June 30th, 2009, 07:40 PM
Interesting, im becoming more interested in this the more info thats leaked.
Glad i preordered it a few months ago.

Heathen
June 30th, 2009, 08:05 PM
^ kindly spoiler that

ffs

Roostervier
June 30th, 2009, 10:29 PM
They're just achievements. <_<

Maybe long post it though. Too much scrolling D:

t3h m00kz
July 3rd, 2009, 01:27 AM
You have no idea how important achievements are.

When I swear, I swear by my gamer score.

BobtheGreatII
July 3rd, 2009, 01:31 AM
Ha ha, I just tend not to like to look at achievements because they sometimes ruin key plot points in games. And it's sort of annoying.

Saggy
July 3rd, 2009, 02:45 PM
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/sounds/Gotta_Lotta_Issues.mp3

FRain
July 3rd, 2009, 03:03 PM
HAHAHAHAHA. THAT'S AWESOME.

Warsaw
July 3rd, 2009, 05:25 PM
Epic motherfucking win!

+rep to you sir.

p0lar_bear
July 3rd, 2009, 08:04 PM
See, this is what happens when canon is bent the right way.

ICEE
July 4th, 2009, 09:17 PM
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/sounds/Gotta_Lotta_Issues.mp3

Is there a way to download that?

ShadowSpartan
July 4th, 2009, 09:33 PM
Is there a way to download that?
Right click here, then click save link as. (http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3ODST/sounds/Gotta_Lotta_Issues.mp3)

Kornman00
July 9th, 2009, 11:08 AM
I'm not sure if anyone else here has noticed this, but in "t_halo3odst_e309_brianj_int_hd.mov" @ 1:21, you can see that the grenade count is above the halo 3 limit of 2 (shows at least 3). Guess bungie probably thought we could use all the equipment we can get since...well, since we can't use deployable equipment (ie power drainer)

Hotrod
July 9th, 2009, 11:20 AM
No offense Korn, but that's old stuff :P I heard rumors about them having a total grenade limit of 6, whether it be 6 frags, or 3 frags and 2 plasmas and 1 spike, or 4 plasmas and 2 spikes, etc... If that were true, it's be pretty cool, since it'd give us more strategic options.

Heathen
July 9th, 2009, 11:24 AM
Ha ha, I just tend not to like to look at achievements because they sometimes ruin key plot points in games. And it's sort of annoying.
this

Kornman00
July 9th, 2009, 12:00 PM
No offense Korn, but that's old stuff :P I heard rumors about them having a total grenade limit of 6, whether it be 6 frags, or 3 frags and 2 plasmas and 1 spike, or 4 plasmas and 2 spikes, etc... If that were true, it's be pretty cool, since it'd give us more strategic options.
Yeah, I figured I couldn't have been the first to notice such a thing seeing as how people tear these video apart, frame by frame ;o.

I remember seeing rookie having at least two spikes in the gameplay video (part 1) with Staten though. Either way, can't wait!

Masterz1337
July 11th, 2009, 12:31 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30501433/vp/31714988#31714988

Nathan Fillion interview.

BobtheGreatII
July 11th, 2009, 04:30 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30501433/vp/31714988#31714988

Nathan Fillion interview.


Old news. <:mad:>

Masterz1337
July 11th, 2009, 04:49 PM
I don't see it posted.

Hotrod
July 22nd, 2009, 04:17 PM
Sorry for the slight bump, but I noticed something while watching the gameplay trailer (the one that was released at E3). At 1:24, at the point where there are two ODSTs on a Mongoose, if you look at the top right, there's an enemy surrounded by red, but it doesn't look like any enemy in any of the Halo games. The closest thing that I can think of is an Engineer, but it's hard to tell.

Saggy
July 22nd, 2009, 04:29 PM
Sorry for the slight bump, but I noticed something while watching the gameplay trailer (the one that was released at E3). At 1:24, at the point where there are two ODSTs on a Mongoose, if you look at the top right, there's an enemy surrounded by red, but it doesn't look like any enemy in any of the Halo games. The closest thing that I can think of is an Engineer, but it's hard to tell.
According to the leaked achievement list (which was proven to be real) there are Engineers so that's most likely it...

Also, you can hear Superintendent speak in the IGN gameplay footage... Just thought I'd put that out there for some reason.

Masterz1337
July 22nd, 2009, 04:45 PM
It's at 1:24. Gotta be an engineer.

Pyong Kawaguchi
July 22nd, 2009, 05:41 PM
pic?

Hotrod
July 22nd, 2009, 05:54 PM
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6605/58386156.jpg
It doesn't look like any type of regular old Covenant to me...

sdavis117
July 22nd, 2009, 06:15 PM
Why is it outlined in red then? In the books the Engineers were treated as a neutral force by the UNSC.

Hotrod
July 22nd, 2009, 06:28 PM
No, if you remember, in Fall Of Reach, the other Spartans attacked the Engineers, and again in First Strike, when Cortana turned off life support in parts of the Covenant ship they captures, many Engineers died. In plus, it's already been confirmed that there are Engineers in ODST, and that you can kill them.

English Mobster
July 23rd, 2009, 01:01 AM
Should I be heartless and slaughter every one of them, or should I be good and keep them all alive?
Decisions, decisions...

k4is3rxkh40s
July 23rd, 2009, 01:09 AM
Should I be heartless and slaughter every one of them, or should I be good and keep them all alive?
Decisions, decisions...


Achievements for killing them all/letting them live a la Bioshock/little sisters mb?

Hotrod
July 23rd, 2009, 01:13 AM
Should I be heartless and slaughter every one of them, or should I be good and keep them all alive?
Decisions, decisions...
The answer : play through the game more than once.

DEElekgolo
July 23rd, 2009, 09:51 AM
This is halo, kill everything first. Exploits later.

Rosco
July 23rd, 2009, 12:21 PM
Oh hey moral choices, fuck you mb..

ICEE
July 23rd, 2009, 06:42 PM
it looks like a bugger to me.

Heathen
July 23rd, 2009, 06:56 PM
it looks like a bugger to me.
bugger?

klange
July 23rd, 2009, 06:58 PM
bugger?
Yanme'e / drone if I'm not mistaken. And I agree, that's what it looks like.

Daishi
July 23rd, 2009, 08:23 PM
bugger == Drone

bugger is what I call them too. Easier to remember. They look like bugs, ergo, they're buggers.

sevlag
July 23rd, 2009, 08:26 PM
i'd only kill one engineer, and that be for the achievement, engineers are big squishy things that just make you go :P

buggers are :\ so they die

sdavis117
July 23rd, 2009, 10:41 PM
I hated the Drones in Halo 2 and 3. They are just too fast. Unless you have a shotgun or SMG, good luck taking one down.

klange
July 23rd, 2009, 10:42 PM
I hated the Drones in Halo 2 and 3. They are just too fast. Unless you have a shotgun or SMG, good luck taking one down.
But when you do have an SMG, it takes like 3 shots and they're dead, so a spray can kill the swarm...

sdavis117
July 23rd, 2009, 10:45 PM
Problem is, I always seem to have a BR and a sniper when I have to fight them. The only encounter with them that I like is the one in Crows Nest where you still have the turret from your Landing Bay fight.

Advancebo
July 24th, 2009, 03:09 AM
I hated the Drones in Halo 2 and 3. They are just too fast. Unless you have a shotgun or SMG, good luck taking one down.

Drones were only in Halo 2 and 3 :realsmug:

English Mobster
July 24th, 2009, 07:10 AM
I don't like Drones, period. They're just annoying to fight, and, tbh, feel tacked-on, like Bungie needed some new class of Covies to throw at the player.

And I've decided. I'm going to play through it ONCE without killing any poor Engineers (I hope none get caught in the cross-fire! D=), then I'll go through and kill the poor guys.
Engies are probably one of my favorite Covenant races, right behind the Grunts.

sevlag
July 24th, 2009, 09:23 AM
I don't like Drones, period. They're just annoying to fight, and, tbh, feel tacked-on, like Bungie needed some new class of Covies to throw at the player.

And I've decided. I'm going to play through it ONCE without killing any poor Engineers (I hope none get caught in the cross-fire! D=), then I'll go through and kill the poor guys.
Engies are probably one of my favorite Covenant races, right behind the Grunts.
too bad they HAVE to die :\ grunts are awesome

so who thinks atleats ONE of these guys is gonna be DoA?

Masterz1337
July 24th, 2009, 11:22 AM
http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/25633
FOV is different, carbine looks sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Eq8m19Cbc
1/2 more videos.

Lateksi
July 24th, 2009, 02:08 PM
Yes! Wider FOV :)

Warsaw
July 24th, 2009, 07:29 PM
Fuck, regenerating health. :gonk:

Pooky
July 24th, 2009, 08:34 PM
Fuck, regenerating health. :gonk:

Regenerating stamina. You'll still have a health bar, like the Halo 1 system.

Warsaw
July 24th, 2009, 08:43 PM
Then why was it that his view faded to red when getting hit, and then came back? Looked a lot like CoD or R6V to me.

Pooky
July 24th, 2009, 08:48 PM
http://www.bungie.net/projects/odst/guide.aspx

Warsaw
July 24th, 2009, 08:51 PM
http://www.bungie.net/projects/odst/guide.aspx

Ok, that works. :)

Good_Apollo
July 24th, 2009, 10:23 PM
http://www.bungie.net/projects/odst/guide.aspx

"Gigantic, heavily armored bipeds. They don't speak often, but when they do it will sound like a thunderous, subsonic rumbling. They travel in pairs and exhibit excellent discipline, unwavering morale, and steady focus.

-On Hunters"

Did they forget their own canon?

Warsaw
July 24th, 2009, 10:35 PM
Hunters? Discipline? I think not...they step on their own comrades, literally. Steady focus? They go on rages when their buddy dies.

Good_Apollo
July 24th, 2009, 10:40 PM
Hunters? Discipline? I think not...they step on their own comrades, literally. Steady focus? They go on rages when their buddy dies.No I mean they specifically call them bipeds when they aren't. Or is that still correct just because they take on that form? Thought you had to be inherently like that.

Also, no Elites? :smith:

Heathen
July 24th, 2009, 11:03 PM
No I mean they specifically call them bipeds when they aren't. Or is that still correct just because they take on that form? Thought you had to be inherently like that.

Also, no Elites? :smith:
The likgolo [sp?] arent bipeds, but the hunters are.

Hotrod
July 25th, 2009, 12:20 AM
Also, no Elites? :smith:
Welcome to many months ago my friend...

p0lar_bear
July 25th, 2009, 02:57 AM
Hunters as combatants are bipedal. They have two legs.

And that's more than likely written from the point of view of the ODSTs.

Warsaw
July 25th, 2009, 03:24 AM
The likgolo [sp?] arent bipeds, but the hunters are.

Lekgolo.
:eng101:

Heathen
July 25th, 2009, 03:28 AM
Lekgolo.
:eng101:
Shit, damn close.

teh lag
July 30th, 2009, 07:56 AM
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=Halo3ODST_DesperateMeasures

Woo, ViDoc time.