Left4Dead 2

[Phobias]

L4D2 has been announced :D!
http://store.steampowered.com/news/2552/

For those who don't like clicking links:



Sequel to Best-Selling Co-op Thriller Coming This Holiday

June 1, 2009 - Valve, creators of best-selling game franchises (such as Half-Life and Counter-Strike) and leading technologies (such as Steam and Source), today announced Left 4 Dead 2 (L4D2), the sequel to the best-selling and critically-acclaimed co-operative multiplayer thriller.

Coming exclusively to Xbox 360 and PC, L4D2 promises to set a new benchmark for co-operative action games and become one of 2009's marquee titles.

"A large part of how Left 4 Dead became 2008's top-selling new IP on Xbox 360 and the PC was the custom-tailored gameplay made possible by the AI Director," said Gabe Newell, president and co-founder of Valve. "With the knowledge gained from creating the original, new technology, and a passionate team, L4D2 will set a new benchmark for cooperative action games."

Set for release on November 17, the title adds melee combat to enable deeper co-operative gameplay, with items such as a chainsaw, frying pan, axe, baseball bat, and more.

Introducing the AI Director 2.0, L4D's dynamic gameplay is taken to the next level by giving the Director the ability to procedurally change weather effects, world objects, and pathways in addition to tailoring the enemy population, effects, and sounds to match the players' performance. The result is a unique game session custom fitted to provide a satisfying and uniquely challenging experience each time the game is played.

Featuring new Survivors, boss zombies, weapons, and items, Left 4 Dead 2 offers a much larger game than the original with more co-operative campaigns, more Versus campaigns, and maps for Survival mode available at launch.

Supported by a $10+ million marketing campaign, Left 4 Dead has sold over 2.5 million retail copies since it was released in November of 2008. Left 4 Dead 2 is targeted for release on Xbox 360 and the PC on November 17, 2009, and will be launched worldwide with a multi-million dollar marketing campaign across TV, Outdoor, and Online.

"Left 4 Dead was backed by our most aggressive advertising campaign to date, and resulted in a top 5 showing on two platforms during holiday 2008," said Doug Lombardi, VP of marketing at Valve. "Left 4 Dead 2 is a larger game and will be supported with even more consumer and retail advertising programs than the original."

Left 4 Dead 2 will be featured as the cover story on PC Gamer and Official Xbox Magazines this month.


They've gone the way of every previous zombie shooter: Chainsaws.
Fuck yeah.

[Mr Buckshot]

bloody awesome, can't wait.

I'm particularly excited about the chainsaws...Doom 3 + god mode playthrough ftw :P

[Advancebo]

L4D never appealed to me :\

[AAA]

Yeah, I hope they actually add a more exciting adventure in this game, something for satisfaction.

In number one, it just felt like you bitch slap zombies, shoot them, and keep going, a kind of run and gun to the end. Nothing that really keeps you interested, nothing deep.

Just needs more story...

Other than that, this looks good.

[blind]

<3

[BobtheGreatII]

Fuck Valve.

Until they give me Episode Three, I'm not buying anything from them.

[Amit]

I just might buy this one.

[ODX]

Unless they hired better animators to make the weapons actually feel like real weapons...and until they announce/release Episode 3, well....
E: Yes, all I really give a fuck about are the animations in games >:|

[Sel]

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[Sel]

stop trolling us valve

[ultama121]

Already? Oh well, cool. :)

[Sel]

stop trolling us valve

[DrunkenSamus]

L4D never appealed to me :\

Muzzle flashes are boring as hell. Needs moar particles. :)

[Con]

seems a bit early to announce, but ok valve!

[Sel]

I hope they turn it into and MMO, like they've been doing with tf2!

[Sel]

ps: note the saxton hale chainsaw

[Syuusuke]

A fat black dude they are.

[p0lar_bear]

They JUST released the SDK for L4D. Come on. :|

[Daishi]

I call EA bullshit on this.

[StankBacon]

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-exclusive-rps-preview/


interesing article, and some most of the comments are pretty negative...

[Con]

racist zombies

[mech]

Cool, two black peolple are in this one.

[Jean-Luc]

Will be purchasing this, assuming it's not $50 right off the bat. Left 4 Dead was a great game and all, but I wouldn't pay that kind of cash for it.

[fuzzy001]

VALVe, where is HL2 Episode Three? My god L4D sequel sure came out first considering how long ago L4D came out...

[Heathen]

Cool, two black peolple are in this one.
rofl

[Rook]

Seems a little too fast honestly

[Ifafudafi]

1. This instead of Ep3? Come on Valve; everybody's still fine with L4D1. Release something people want to hear about.

2. THE CHICK IS BLACK. WHAT. ZOEYZOEYZOEYZOEYZOEYZOEYZOEY

3. Looks like more of an expansion pack than a full-blown sequel, tbqh. Dunno if it'll be worth retail price.

4. Is this Valve, releasing sequels in less than 6 years? :suicide:

[rossmum]

It looks pretty awesome, but I have this horrible sinking feeling it's some dickish prank or whatever

e/ Having read some of the comments on YT, I have to say that I kind of agree. It looks nice, it'd be cool to have some new characters, and the new director sounds great; however I would much rather see this as DLC for L4D, not a new game. It also puts me out a bit that Zoey, Bill, Francis, and Louis never actually had their predicament resolved at all (for better or for worse), yet they're moving on to a whole new set of survivors.

Kinda dubious.

[Delta4907]

L4D2 Gameplay videos:
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/143/14352245/vids_1.html

[Rook]

What about the thread in the source games section. :confused:

[Jean-Luc]

Something does seem a bit odd at the situation, but there have been people who said the played the game.

[p0lar_bear]

It also puts me out a bit that Zoey, Bill, Francis, and Louis never actually had their predicament resolved at all (for better or for worse), yet they're moving on to a whole new set of survivors.

You forget that Valve made this.

YOU ultimately decide the four's predicament.

Over.

And over.

And over.

And over again.

(Though the survival mode game has it set in stone that they will die.)

[Jean-Luc]

Damn, Valve didn't waste any time in getting some gameplay footage going :D

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/47587/Left-4-Dead-2-Gameplay-Movies-Released

Man, Source engine is really starting to show its age : (

[Aerowyn]

What really gets me about this is that Left4Dead 1 is still buggy and incomplete and BORING. The replay value is TERRIBLE. You finish the campaign, you get a few golds on Survival Mode... ragequitting ruined versus (and it was never fun for me anyway), matchmaking is shit, we still don't have a proper SDK.... and they're RELEASING A SEQUEL?!

WHAT THE FUCK, VALVE?

It would've done better as a DLC update, BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW VALVE UPDATES LEFT4DEAD SO OFTEN LOL.

Bottom line is: I am not paying 50 more bucks for updates that we should've gotten as DLC in the first place. :\

[Advancebo]

Looks cartoony in lighting and detail.

[Phobias]

As I saw this this morning I was just about to buy l4d.
Now I'm thinking I might as well wait and buy this.

[Botolf]

Don't know if I want this, I have all kinds of unanswered questions about what this'll do to the community and what the other content in L4D2 is. For now I wait.

[Botolf]

VALVe, where is HL2 Episode Three? My god L4D sequel sure came out first considering how long ago L4D came out...
Both halflife.net and gamestar.de have been invited to Valve's meeting room tomorrow. There's probably more invited.

[neuro]

i dont see why everyone's throwing a shitfit really, nobody ever said anything about full retailprice, and nobody ever said they'd stop supporting l4d. hell, i wouldnt be surprised if they gave owners of the original l4d a discount on l4d2 on steam.

[rossmum]

Looks cartoony in lighting and detail.
As does any Source game which uses next-gen-style graphics. Especially on lower settings...

[n00b1n8R]

This won't be out till May next year.
Valve never meats reasonable deadlines, ever.

Still, better have a lot more replay than the original.
And vehicles!!

E: and everything in italics mltp

[Kornman00]

ITS A TRAP!

Sorry, no one called it yet. They want your monies of course, so its a tarp. Sorry, no one called that one either :-3

[=sw=warlord]

ah just like the movies, the zombies seem a little more racist than in the first game.

[=sw=warlord]

so this is why we got the survivor pack for free...

[sevlag]

Looks cartoony in lighting and detail.
i thought that too, i honestly think that if this WAS a sequel, it should have had more to do with the original 4 and less with thee new people, L4D 2 shouldn't exist, valve should give us a campaign based on last stand and built around just that or some sort of one last campaign that shows weither or not the survivors made it to safety or finally died, i mean look at the dialogue they cut from the helicopter pilot, he said in the cut dialogue he had an "accident" which may mean he was scratched or something by infected or whatnot

matchmaking is honestly shit because people just want to play Dead air because of the insta-kill area, death tool is underplayed because of this and no mrecy has been left to rot

valve is letting their fans down by making a new L4D too quickly

and where is our hunter fix valve, the PC hunter can claw back after being pushed off, why can't we...you lazy bastards, too busy with a shitty L4D to impliment the new coding to give hunters a fighting chance...

foreshame


You forget that Valve made this.

YOU ultimately decide the four's predicament.

Over.

And over.

And over.

And over again.

(Though the survival mode game has it set in stone that they will die.)
i think he means p0lar, that we don't see a FINALITY to the survivors escape, since its said they are immune to the disease that claimed other people, either that last campaign i suggested should either them dying (regardless of how well you try or how much shit you have to work with) or they ultimately escape

[rossmum]

Uh, nearly every versus game I've played has been on Death Toll.

About two have been on Dead Air, and five or so were on No Mercy.

[sevlag]

Uh, nearly every versus game I've played has been on Death Toll.

About two have been on Dead Air, and five or so were on No Mercy.

lucky bastard, i've only found matches in dead air...or blood harvest which i think sucks


i love death toll because at the beginning you can COMPLETELY fuck up the survivors and going up that ladder leaves you vunerable to being pulled off by a smoker or pounced mid climb

[StankBacon]

that's why you play with people you know, not use the matchmaking bullshit.

although everyone i play with always picks no mercy >.<

[Advancebo]

Black people killing white people with red necks (blood), lulz, nice one Valve.

[rossmum]

Black people killing white people with red necks (blood), lulz, nice one Valve.
not actually sure that was their intention but it does have a rather poetic irony to it

[Advancebo]

Anyways, forget L4D2, anyone gonna get R2L?

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/right2live.jpg

[rossmum]

Not funny at all. Stop trying, and I suggest you lock the spam thread you just created in OT.

[sevlag]

that's why you play with people you know, not use the matchmaking bullshit.

although everyone i play with always picks no mercy >.<
well mr. bacon most people on my friends list moved on from L4D

and i host the matches mostly, i can only find people when the campaign is set to dead air, i once baited people with DA and switched to DT, but everyone left after the switch

[StankBacon]

:\ that sucks.

[sevlag]

:\ that sucks.
yep, but recently on dead air my friend was the tank on the rooftops, he purposely jumped off the edge where you could see the safe house building, and smacked as many cars as he could to block the entrance to the building...when the people got there they were pissed as they kept trying to get through this one tiny opening and everythime they tried another friend of mine who was a smoker pulled them out.

i've also learned that a hunter can save a smoker from being killed, right when the smoker is going ot get shot, have a hunter scratch the smoker, tounge comes off and smoker can run away, taking a tiny bit o damage

</3 the kill spots on DA

[Advancebo]

Not funny at all. Stop trying, and I suggest you lock the spam thread you just created in OT.

how?

[rossmum]

Thread tools > close thread > perform action.

[Sel]

Didn't they say way back there would be a team matchmaking service, so that you would end up with people who were less likely to ragequit when they started losing :/

[Botolf]

ah just like the movies, the zombies seem a little more racist than in the first game.
Not really.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

If this isn't DLC, or people who already own l4d on steam get a cheaper price, I don't know if i'll want this.

[Heathen]

VALVe, where is HL2 Episode Three? My god L4D sequel sure came out first considering how long ago L4D came out...
you lost me for a sec.
the word you were looking for was fast.

[Sever]

Is it just me, or does the name L4D2 make anyone else think of astromech droids from Star Wars?

Also, I'll be getting this game.

[Heathen]

Is it just me, or does the name L4D2 make anyone else think of astromech droids from Star Wars?

Also, I'll be getting this game.
me too

[Saggy]

Both halflife.net and gamestar.de have been invited to Valve's meeting room tomorrow. There's probably more invited.
No EP3. :(

[Phopojijo]

stop trolling us valve
Uhm, I don't even know where to start with you...

Bonk!

[jngrow]

Left 4 Dead 2... taking place in New Orleans? Political commentary mb?

Seriously though, I love the distorted jazz and eerie daytime.

[LlamaMaster]

Ugh, I'd much rather see them fix VS. in L4D. The game is horribly stacked against the infected unless you have a great team, and that almost never happens.

[Sel]

Ugh, I'd much rather see them fix VS. in L4D. The game is horribly stacked against the infected unless you have a great team, and that almost never happens.

That's like saying that tf2 is stacked because your team is bad.

[jngrow]

Ugh, I'd much rather see them fix VS. in L4D. The game is horribly stacked against the infected unless you have a great team, and that almost never happens.

Wait, stacked against infected or for them? When a team is evenly matched, Survivors shouldn't make it/BARELY make it. Versus has always seemed pretty balanced to me- both teams have to experience both sides, so :/.

[LlamaMaster]

I'm always stuck with an uncoordinated team full of ragequitters. Pretty much the only time I win with the infected team is if everybody has a mic.

[rossmum]

Ugh, I'd much rather see them fix VS. in L4D. The game is horribly stacked against the infected unless you have a great team, and that almost never happens.
This is why we add good teams to our friends list and routinely join games they're in or invite them to ours.

Works for me, I've had some amazing teams.

[jcap]

Jeez, and Ross just bought me L4D.

Gay.

[sevlag]

Ugh, I'd much rather see them fix VS. in L4D. The game is horribly stacked against the infected unless you have a great team, and that almost never happens.
then play with me...wait i forgot most people here play it on the computer not the 360 :(

wish i could fix my comp up and play games on it again...good games, not halo:zero,DOOM, DOOM2, Fallout 2, and assorted ROMS

but if you DO have the 360 one, then play with consider me as a good player...

speaking of L4D...who r MLG pros with teh pistolz (single pistol)? *raises hand*

[PwN Lone]

speaking of L4D...who r MLG pros with teh pistolz (single pistol)? *raises hand*

Dual pistols ftw. Those things are like sub-machine guns when in the right hands.

[CabooseJr]

I'm sorry Valve. I thought you just released Left 4 Dead. Why would you make a sequel so fast and not tease us about EP3.

[LinkandKvel]

This seems like they could have made this DLC instead.

[JunkfoodMan]

i dont like knowing that i payed $50 for a beta

[StankBacon]

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott

[flibitijibibo]

i dont like knowing that i payed $50 for a beta
This. Though, they at least gave us an SDK for the beta (eventually).

[Phobias]

I actually think that they didn't start making this game the moment l4d was release. I think they initially intended all of this to be DLC, then took a step back and thought "theres an entire game here" and decided to charge for it.

Make it an expansion, or something. $10 for l4d owners and $50-$60 bundle pack for both of them, imo.

[Sel]

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/L4D2boycott

whoa

that group already has 1000 more members than it did 5 hours ago.

[StankBacon]

it had a little over 5g when i posted it, its already at 7300.

i guess alot of people are upset about it lol.

[cheezdue]

Lets just hope they dont make a "Left 4 Head 2". :bunchies:

[Sel]

Lets just hope they dont make a "Left 4 Head 2". :bunchies:

why, in gods name, would we fucking wish that

[StankBacon]

wait, you want them to make it sel?

freak lol.

[BobtheGreatII]

lol. :lmao:

[LlamaMaster]

Nothing gets sel off like masochistic necrophilia. :cool:

[Sel]

Nothing gets sel off like masochistic necrophilia. :cool:

damn right :)

[Angatar]

You're a necrophiliac?

[Sel]

yeah man

[Angatar]

yeah man
Why? Do you like the feeling of cold, limp, dick in your ass? I do.

[Sel]

I find it to be quite an enjoyable experience. You see, I live in a temperate zone of the planet, and it is usually 20-40C outside, and sometimes, inside. Cold lifeless dicks are great because they help cool your already hot body down. While warm pulsing lively dicks are far less enjoyable when it's hot.

Seeing the big picture now?

[Jean-Luc]

So hey, got a friend who works at Gamestop. Left 4 Dead 2 is listed there as online downloadable content.

Valve, are you just MASSIVELY trolling us? :allears:

[Sel]

God I fucking hope so.

[Disaster]

They never said they were selling it separately did they?

[Sel]

They never said they were selling it separately did they?

Uhh, yes they did?

It's an entirely new game

[n00b1n8R]

standalone or DLC for owners of L4D?

[Jean-Luc]

According to my friend, it's just DLC for owners of L4D.

Maybe it's a front for HL2: Episode 3 :o

[Phobias]

I smell a spy.

[Jelly]

You know what's funny.

Valve would be getting so much praise right now if they called this L4D episode 2 (valve, do it)

[Sel]

except its actually a whole new game (http://www.amazon.com/Left4Dead-2-Pc/dp/B002BRYXRQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1244401875&sr=1-2)!

better be a troll