Regarding browser wars...

[rossmum]

I used to use IE6 out of habit. It wasn't the fastest, it wasn't the most secure, but until FPSB became an attack site without my knowledge it didn't matter because I'm not a retard. However, I decided I may as well start using FF just to be on the safe side.

I am utterly unimpressed. For all the spruiking the FF fanboy brigade do, it's barely any better than IE6 was. About the only advantage is that it displays .png transparency properly; the spellcheck is useless as it calls out words that are not spelled incorrectly in the first place, then completely ignores words that are. It doesn't even work at all most of the time. Actually, the download history list is nice too, as is the crash recovery. Other than that?

It's not particularly faster, but my main issue lies with just how incredibly unstable it is. I'm not exaggerating when I say that FF is now the leading cause of my computer slowing to a crawl or crashing outright. One moment I can be merrily internetting and the next, FF has taken an almighty, semi-liquid, reeking turd all over my PC. I get more system-crippling memory leaks from FF in a week than I did from IE in a month. Not twenty minutes ago, I went to download a skin for Il-2 and upon the save box opening, it locked completely and not even task manager could close it. The site is clean, the file is clean, and I didn't do anything I wouldn't normally do. I guess FF just decided it hadn't fulfilled its crash quota for today. I had to reset my fucking PC to get it running normally again.

Let this be a lesson: browser fanboys are, without exception, absolute fucking retards. Pick one that works for you and stick to it.

[RecycleBin]

Opera or IE8.......I ditched FF because it was to slow.

[Jean-Luc]

I've never had any trouble with Firefox, and yet always had issues with IE. Interesting how it varies on different systems.

[rossmum]

Snaf has even worse problems than me, and from what I recall he has a beastly computer.

[klange]

You're doing it wrong. FF comes preconfigured to not be fast for your own safety.*



* I'm dead serious.

[NullZero]

Never had a problem with it.

[Masterz1337]

I started using Chrome about 6 months ago and haven't looked back. I till use IE or FF for things like streaming video off fox and abc.com. You should give it a try, It's really the fastest and most friendly browser out there.

[ShadowSpartan]

I've never had any trouble with Firefox, and yet always had issues with IE. Interesting how it varies on different systems.
Same. Firefox has never given me any problems, but IE constantly froze up and crashed.

[rossmum]

You're doing it wrong. FF comes preconfigured to not be fast for your own safety.*



* I'm dead serious.
Does it come preconfigured to shit all over my memory on a whim? Because that seems like a pretty dumb thing to preconfigure, and jokes aside, I'm left wondering how the fuck they still haven't fixed the stability problems which absolutely plague Snaf and I.

[StankBacon]

never had an issue with FF, on any operating system.

[LlamaMaster]

Firefox has been always been flawless with me, regardless of the computer it was on. Even with my 3.5ghz quad core, IE still runs noticeably slower than FF3. I would never go back. :/

[MetKiller Joe]

How much did you pay for it?

I like spell check, it makes me look more competent (that was spell-checked). I like being able to open many tabs without the browser taking my computer's resources. I prefer it to IE because I get less warnings.

Also, who gives a crap about FF fanboys? They don't seem to be open minded (I've used IE, Opera, and several other browsers), and why would you listen to somebody bragging about the browser they use? Who cares. Use the one that suites your needs.

[Rook]

Yeah Firefox is nearly perfect with me, used it for a long time and have had very few crashes.

[Llama Juice]

*shrug* I never have problems with FF. It does what it needs to, and it does it right for me.

[Terry]

I never really liked FF's feel and internet explorer always bugs out on me. Been using Opera for years. It works fastest on my PC and I can't live without its navigation short cuts pretty much.

[LlamaMaster]

I like spell check, it makes me look more competent
Haha, this. I'd look like a flaming retard without the spell check.
***Awaits remark from Ross/somebody else***

[Roostervier]

Firefox works fine for me. There are tuts to increase page load speed, but the memory thing could be an issue for a lower end pc I suppose.

[Jelly]

What do you mean FPSB became an attack site? were they purposely hosting an exploit or something?

[TheGhost]

I use Firefox regularly, except when I have to go to a heavy Javascript or whatever intensive site. In that case, FF is almost unusable, and I'll switch over to Chrome. Chrome is very solid.

[StankBacon]

id use chrome, i just hate the way it looks :|

[Bhamid]

I used to use IE8, which was solid but slow, now I use Chrome which is perfect except I can't download maps from halomaps.org, it just says cannot locate <insert map link here> :mad:

[CN3089]

If you use any other browser other than Firefox than you're a complete retard and you are dead to me hth http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-colbert.gif

[NullZero]

O rly?

Just trying out opera from a few suggestions in this topic, and have found it has moved on quite a bit since the last time I used it. Props to the makers +1

[Saggy]

I like Firfox, it never runs slow for me like IE does. The only thing with FF is that, like Rossmum stated, is a heavy resource hog. Right now, firefox.exe is using 307,792K of my resource. That's nothing compared to what IE used to use though. Is there any way I can lower the resources firefox uses?

[SnaFuBAR]

if i leave FF open, it fucks up my pc. I don't exactly have a slouch of a computer. The problem is FF specific only. It makes my taskbar, desktop, etc, render abnormally, as well as any other programs (should i even have others open). I was about to post this topic myself, Ross.

[StankBacon]

my ff only uses 60mb average.


what version you using? on what os?

[Saggy]

my ff only uses 60mb average.


what version you using? on what os?
If that was directed at me then; I use Firefox version 3.0.10 and I have Windows XP SP2 32-Bit

[Phobias]

FF causes windows media player to lock up, but only while I'm playing music.

IE8, no problems so far.

[ODX]

Yeah, I'm using Firefox 2. I had upgraded to 3 but I hated it instantly, just wasn't the same thing I had been using before. If anything, all that needs to be said is what you've already said:
Pick one that works for you and stick to it.

[Cagerrin]

FF causes windows media player to lock up, but only while I'm playing music.

IE8, no problems so far.
>windows media player
>playing music

That's what foobar is for.

Also Firefox 3 here, never had problems except from a media plugin or two. Why can't sites just use Flash player dammit?

[Needles]

Google chrome?

Anyone?

[Warsaw]

I use it. It is awesome. And then you have Safari 4.0, which as far as I am concerned is basically a ripped off version of Chrome with Apple branding and Exposé.

[English Mobster]

I use Firefox myself.

IE, for me, is absolutely HORRIBLE. Constant viruses, it's SLOOOOW AS FUCK... I went to FF around 2004-5-ish and never looked back. On the school computers, I still have to use IE, which reminds me of how much I hate it.

I've never tried Chrome or Opera, so I can't say anything about those, but FF, while it DOES slow down my computer occasionally, its hardly ever noticeable, and the plugins are nice.
I've modified my version so it loads 100x faster, and, well, I'm happy with it.

[Pooky]

Used firefox for ages, never had any problems with it.

But, I didn't switch to it because I had any problems with IE. I just did it because I was bored and wanted to change something.

[rossmum]

What do you mean FPSB became an attack site? were they purposely hosting an exploit or something?
Someone jacked it and used it to spread rootkits, which is how I picked mine up. As far as I know, it was a while before they worked out how it was being done and repaired the security breach.

As for the system it's running on... my PC is no speed demon, but it's reliable and not as bad as some peoples' I know. Earlier I had two windows (I don't use tabs, force of habit) open and both were on loaded Youtube videos. FF decided it wanted to use 80-98% of my CPU's processing power for itself for no readily apparent reason, and closing it and then restarting it on the same pages didn't help. I had to close the second video before pasting the link in a new window before it decided to stop fucking with my PC. If there was any apparent and excusable reason for this crap, I might not be so pissed off at it, but they seem totally random.

[Lateksi]

I used to surf with Firefox but now Chrome is the shit and it's like 3 times faster for me! IE is about as fast as FF is for me.

[Syuusuke]

No ones using Flock? Firefox in disguise?

[sdavis117]

I used the IE8 beta, which sucked, so instead of switching to IE7, I decided to try FF, and I have never gone back.

I like IE7, and if they fix IE8, I will like that too, but I just love Firefox better.

[Captain Pakundo]

I used the IE8 beta, which sucked, so instead of switching to IE7, I decided to try FF, and I have never gone back.

I like IE7, and if they fix IE8, I will like that too, but I just love Firefox better.

I hope you know that IE8 is now a full version.
Works like a charm on Windows Vista SP2.

[klange]

I hope you know that IE8 is now a full version.
Works like a charm on Windows Vista SP2.
Does it still do that annoying clicking thing (sound) when you load a page? I tend to have my speakers muted when I go to GetFirefox.com (... I installed Win7 RC a few days ago...)

[Captain Pakundo]

It does, but you can mute that particular sound.

[Heathen]

I've never had any trouble with Firefox, and yet always had issues with IE. Interesting how it varies on different systems.
This.
I use flock. FF based.
Use Chrome.

[ThePlague]

I've been using Firefox for awhile now, and it's been fine for me the whole time. I've tried Google Chrome, and it didn't like to load Youtube videos; i've tried Flock, but went back to Firefox because the new features weren't that amazing; i've used IE and to me it sucks; and lastly i've used Opera and Safari for a short time too, and didn't like them very much.

[343guiltymc]

I use Chrome. Is there any tools that can change the the default theme of the Chrome? That's the only thing I dislike about it.

[Reaper Man]

I use firefox, it's quite stable, and I enjoy how customizable it is. As much as I like Chrome, I can't live without adblock plus, and I don't wanna have to use privoxy to do so (the current workaround it seems). That plus the lack of Stylish and Greasemonkey put me off Chrome.

I don't even use IE, if Firefox gives me problems with a website, I switch to IE mode using the IE tab plugin, so I don't have to open another browser, it's great. Also means I can run windows update (on xp) within Firefox.

[RecycleBin]

Oper is way better than firefucks to me. firefucks slowed down my system and crashes a lot. I recently downloaded IE8 and so far I have no complaints.

[Reaper Man]

Oper is way better than firefucks to me. firefucks slowed down my system and crashes a lot. I recently downloaded IE8 and so far I have no complaints.
Oh ho ho ho, how clever of you. Way to defeat the purpose of this thread, fanboy.

[RecycleBin]

What can I say? It fucks my computer up its ass. I don't completely hate it though. Opera will mess up with buttons or other things on Facebook then I havce to use firefox.
Firefox is a lot more stable with it's content though.
And what version is firefox on? 3.10? And they still havn't fixed the bug where it will disapear from the taskbar.

[Timo]

I use Opera, but I don't get any problems with Firefox.

[Con]

I've never had any trouble with Firefox, and yet always had issues with IE. Interesting how it varies on different systems.
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[Bodzilla]

never had an issue with FF, on any operating system.
me either.

works perfect for me.
It's a bit slow to open up the first time in the morning. (but thats more because of other processors trying to hog the processor)
once its up and running it's flawless.

[Alwin Roth]

whenever i used FF nothing bad happens,
when i used IE, while watching videos this pop-up will come and say "leave page" and all this other horseshit,

and today my computer wants to install IE 8, has anyone tried it?

[Bodzilla]

Someone jacked it and used it to spread rootkits, which is how I picked mine up. As far as I know, it was a while before they worked out how it was being done and repaired the security breach.

As for the system it's running on... my PC is no speed demon, but it's reliable and not as bad as some peoples' I know. Earlier I had two windows (I don't use tabs, force of habit) open and both were on loaded Youtube videos. FF decided it wanted to use 80-98% of my CPU's processing power for itself for no readily apparent reason, and closing it and then restarting it on the same pages didn't help. I had to close the second video before pasting the link in a new window before it decided to stop fucking with my PC. If there was any apparent and excusable reason for this crap, I might not be so pissed off at it, but they seem totally random.
very odd.

i have multiple windows with multiple tabs doing multiple things such as streaming, downloading, pictures forums ect, and i never have any problems.

[Bhamid]

IE8 is a great upgrade to IE7, but it does feel more clunky, but other than that, its great.

[Limited]

The second I heard about Firefox (like 4+ years ago I think) I switched from IE, never went back. I only use IE for windows update. It just caters for all my needs.

Looks good, very customizable and safe. Ticks all the boxes. Okay it might be slow starting up, but I can wait for the benefits.

[Gamerkd16]

Firefox is getting really slow for me lately but maybe that's because of all the addons I have installed. If I am going to browse forums or stumble I use Firefox since I can only get my addons with Firefox (ie: Stumbleupon, Pagerization, GreaseMonkey). If I am going to play a flash game or video I use Chrome. Much faster. I only use IE for the sites that require it like my college site or my work site.

[Bhamid]

Safari 4 looks pretty good...

[InnerGoat]

I use Opera, but I don't get any problems with Firefox.

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firefox is nothing without its addons either :rape:

[Warsaw]

Safari 4 looks pretty good...

Safari 4 is buggy as hell on Windows...believe me, I have it.

[klange]

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firefox is nothing without its addons either :rape:
How does the song go? I'll get by high with a little help from my friends. Plugins make the world go 'round and also mean that I don't need the overhead of features I don't want.

[InnerGoat]

What is there some firefox song now? lolifox is better anyways

[p0lar_bear]

I personally use Firefox for it's expandability through plugins. I've got one called Firebug which is like an HTML DOM inspector on crack; I can make changes to CSS and HTML on a page in real time to preview how something would look; invaluable for working with vBulletin's template system, and CSS in general, as well as a plugin that can convert Unix timestamps into something more human-friendly.

I have no issues with other browsers; in fact, I always at least check anything I write up in IE to make sure that it looks the same, or at least similar. As a web developer, I have to make sure things work for most, if not all platforms.

[klange]

There's a format friendlier than timestamps? What, you can't calculate your month/day/year from seconds since January 1st, 1970? Psh.

All my sites work in IE, but I block IE6 from accessing my blog because if you're using IE6 you have no reason to be on my blog - everything on it is about Linux.

[ExAm]

Firefox 3 is kinda bloated, but I'm addicted to the addons and for that reason I can't switch.

[Rook]

Opera 10 beta (http://www.opera.com/browser/next/) is nice, it finally has inline spell checking by default and is fast, as well as sleek.