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itszutak
June 9th, 2009, 04:07 PM
I might switch back to the flaregun for a few things now-- Valve took the suggestion of their forums (oh no) and added in mini-crits to enemies that have been pre-ignited. It's an extra 10dmg per hit.

Also, FaN does more damage now :dance:

Sel
June 9th, 2009, 04:17 PM
FaN did way too much damage before...

Timo
June 9th, 2009, 04:42 PM
heh, the FaN rapes now - it's awesome.

flibitijibibo
June 9th, 2009, 04:46 PM
The last two weapons that needed a buff got them. Cool.

*Throws away the nerf-gun Ambassador*

itszutak
June 9th, 2009, 04:53 PM
The last two weapons that needed a buff got them. Cool.

*Throws away the nerf-gun Ambassador*
I've actually found the ambassador ridiculously powerful, but I've mainly used it as a sniping weapon and anti-w+M1 pyro weapon, where those headshots come often.

Sel
June 9th, 2009, 05:04 PM
heh, the FaN rapes now - it's awesome.

I've been 2 shotted by a FaN scout more times than I can count. There is no way it needed a buff.

Bodzilla
June 9th, 2009, 05:17 PM
FoN was fine the way it was.

bad scouts cant aim.
i know it's my favourite class but i prefer a balanced game, hence why i rage on demo's.
i dunno about hte mini crits for the flare gun though... it's supposed to go hand in hand with the axetinguisher.
same as the FoN.
if your trying to just 2 shot everybody you really dont know how to play scout.

i use it all the time.

DOMINATOR
June 10th, 2009, 01:27 AM
FoN was fine the way it was.

bad scouts cant aim.
i know it's my favourite class but i prefer a balanced game, hence why i rage on demo's.
i dunno about hte mini crits for the flare gun though... it's supposed to go hand in hand with the axetinguisher.
same as the FoN.
if your trying to just 2 shot everybody you really dont know how to play scout.

i use it all the time.
you have little grasp on how classes are best utilized.

n00b1n8R
June 10th, 2009, 01:30 AM
FaN did way too much damage before...
I agree that it didn't need the buff, but it's still nice heh.

implication that the FaN didn't already rape
heh

FoN was fine the way it was.

bad scouts cant aim.
i know it's my favourite class but i prefer a balanced game, hence why i rage on demo's.
i dunno about hte mini crits for the flare gun though... it's supposed to go hand in hand with the axetinguisher.
same as the FoN.
if your trying to just 2 shot everybody you really dont know how to play scout.

i use it all the time.
I'm interested as to how the minicrits work. It's only flamebased weapons that get then and only if the target was (initially?) ignited by a flare or what?

But yeah, the scout didn't need another buff.

Also, scouts shouldn't aim for the 2sk? eh?
Distance skirmishing is nice but for me, the scout is all about the hit-and-run (the FaN also being useful in the run part).

itszutak
June 10th, 2009, 02:09 AM
I'm interested as to how the minicrits work. It's only flamebased weapons that get then and only if the target was (initially?) ignited by a flare or what?

If the target is on fire by any means, the flaregun minicrits on them on the direct hit-- the rest of the burn doesn't minicrit.

Also, I'm a sucky scout who can't use the FAN right. I was under the impression it did as much damage for one shot as the scattergun does for one shot, but I guess I was wrong?

Bodzilla
June 10th, 2009, 04:21 AM
I agree that it didn't need the buff, but it's still nice heh.

heh

I'm interested as to how the minicrits work. It's only flamebased weapons that get then and only if the target was (initially?) ignited by a flare or what?

But yeah, the scout didn't need another buff.

Also, scouts shouldn't aim for the 2sk? eh?
Distance skirmishing is nice but for me, the scout is all about the hit-and-run (the FaN also being useful in the run part).
he was fine the way he was. he was already 2sk with the FoN.

as for the flare gun it was a distance deterrent/ irritant.
people run when they're on fire 90% of the time. thats what the flaregun is for.
it's not supposed to be a killing machine, just supposed to keep people at bay. If your trying to frag people with it you dont know what your doing.

Bodzilla
June 10th, 2009, 04:24 AM
If the target is on fire by any means, the flaregun minicrits on them on the direct hit-- the rest of the burn doesn't minicrit.

Also, I'm a sucky scout who can't use the FAN right. I was under the impression it did as much damage for one shot as the scattergun does for one shot, but I guess I was wrong?
it does, however it has a much larger area of effect.
it's hard to miss.

and the knock back is worth it's weight in gold. 2 of them onto a reloading soldier or a demo, and a bat and they're in real trouble.

Phobias
June 10th, 2009, 09:38 AM
So apparently* theres a glitch with the new flaregun mini-crits that causes sentries to attack allies that are ignited by the flaregun. Good way for pyros to take down engis and sentrys from a distance.



* could have just been a one off thing that happened to me a while ago.

p0lar_bear
June 10th, 2009, 12:32 PM
So apparently* theres a glitch with the new flaregun mini-crits that causes sentries to attack allies that are ignited by the flaregun. Good way for pyros to take down engis and sentrys from a distance.



* could have just been a one off thing that happened to me a while ago.

You sure a teammate didn't walk in range of the gun while the engineer was standing between him and it?

Needles
June 10th, 2009, 12:36 PM
So apparently* theres a glitch with the new flaregun mini-crits that causes sentries to attack allies that are ignited by the flaregun. Good way for pyros to take down engis and sentrys from a distance.



* could have just been a one off thing that happened to me a while ago.

Even if it did attack an ally, it wouldn't do any damage would it?

Sel
June 10th, 2009, 02:40 PM
Even if it did attack an ally, it wouldn't do any damage would it?

If your sentry shoots you it will hurt you.

Dunno about allies though.

Phobias
June 10th, 2009, 05:45 PM
You sure a teammate didn't walk in range of the gun while the engineer was standing between him and it?

It locked onto me (I was engi) started shooting, I hid behind the dispenser, checked to see if anyone else was around, it was just me, popped my head up again and it locked on again.

Kept locking onto me until the fire wore off.

A pyro came up with his flamethrower blazing (ally) just as I died, even he was baffled.

DOMINATOR
June 10th, 2009, 09:00 PM
Even if it did attack an ally, it wouldn't do any damage would it?
the rocket's can kill allies.

Botolf
June 14th, 2009, 05:31 PM
I haven't used the shotgun as Pyro for a good while, just another bonus to mah precious Flare gun.

n00b1n8R
June 14th, 2009, 06:38 PM
I used to whore the flare myself, but then tried the shotty one day (I'd never really used it before the pyro update) and found it to be much more useful for my play style (covering retreats, softening people up, taking out weak enemies outside my flamethrower's range, etc).

Bodzilla
June 14th, 2009, 09:56 PM
the flare gun aint mini critting for me.

or atleast it's not showing it minicriting

Rook
June 15th, 2009, 03:58 AM
I think you gotta hit em in the balls :x

itszutak
June 15th, 2009, 04:53 AM
the flare gun aint mini critting for me.

or atleast it's not showing it minicriting
Are you hitting people twice with it? They need to be on fire first-- works 100% for me.

Bodzilla
June 15th, 2009, 08:06 AM
yes.

Botolf
June 16th, 2009, 11:17 AM
I can confirm Flaregun minicrits, played Pyro last night and saw the little minicrit text pop up after I started hitting people multiple times with my Flare Gun.

Bad's game is loopy confirmed!

Mass
June 16th, 2009, 11:23 AM
I think it should do an actual crit considering all the power it's lost with the introduction of jarate and extinguishing air-blasts.

I love the flare gun, and I use it a lot (I am getting mini-crits) because if you set somebody on fire, it distracts them, it eventually does a lot of damage, and if it's a hurt player you can kill them as they run away from your team. Or, axetinguish, :bunchies:

It does not seem to be the mini-crits, but I've found the gun even better recently.

Botolf
June 16th, 2009, 02:14 PM
It's better against lone Heavies now, you'll run into a few dumb ones that don't retreat when they should. Hello Flare Gun kill!

Bodzilla
June 17th, 2009, 03:33 AM
is it flare gun on flare gun? or does it just work with any old fire?

Botolf
June 17th, 2009, 11:08 AM
is it flare gun on flare gun? or does it just work with any old fire?
Any old fire should do, doesn't even have to be yours, I think.

English Mobster
June 17th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Well. I suck at aiming the flare gun, I found out.

Rook
June 18th, 2009, 12:32 AM
I still can't find the flaregun. :fail:

Sever
June 18th, 2009, 12:42 AM
Hell, if you're an acceptable pyro, just go for ten of the achievements and you'll get it. I'm a less-than-average pyro, and I was able to unlock it in less than 2 hours of normal gameplay without even going for anything.

PlasbianX
June 18th, 2009, 12:43 AM
I still can't find the flaregun. :fail:

Ive gotten it at random like 8 times now :/ I got spares tho, so the moment they add trading I can give u one

n00b1n8R
June 18th, 2009, 01:38 AM
I still can't find the flaregun. :fail:
Go get achievments like people did before the stupid ass update.

Heathen
June 18th, 2009, 01:57 AM
Ive gotten it at random like 8 times now :/ I got spares tho, so the moment they add trading I can give u one
only found the flame thrower thing.

Sel
June 18th, 2009, 02:44 PM
The only good pyro unlock is the axetinguisher.

Anyone using the flare gun will be banned from tf2

Botolf
June 18th, 2009, 05:10 PM
The only good pyro unlock is the axetinguisher.

Anyone using the flare gun will be banned from tf2
Flare gun is awesome, you silly octopus!

itszutak
June 18th, 2009, 08:06 PM
The only good pyro unlock is the axetinguisher.

Anyone using the flare gun will be banned from tf2
*paff* *paff-MINICRIT*

Sel
June 18th, 2009, 08:28 PM
I'm not an axeassin for using the flare gun sir

p0lar_bear
June 18th, 2009, 10:45 PM
Fire, air, axe combo.

Represent.

Bodzilla
June 19th, 2009, 05:38 AM
Fire, air, axe combo.

Represent.
good to see someones a thinker.

A rebounded a rocket at a soldier blew him towards me, puffed him, blasted him then axed him.

he never hit the ground.

god i'm good.

Botolf
June 19th, 2009, 02:41 PM
Fire, air, axe combo.

Represent.
'Tis great fun indeed.

Sever
June 19th, 2009, 03:03 PM
I still need my axe. The thing is I don't play Pyro enough to get it legit - I'll just jump in whenever we need some heavy point defense or stalemate-busting.

n00b1n8R
June 19th, 2009, 08:51 PM
The only good pyro unlock is the axetinguisher.

Anyone using the flare gun will be banned from tf2
You misspelt backburner there Brosef

Sel
June 19th, 2009, 09:37 PM
look at this scrub

you couldnt play tf2 if your life depended on it

n00b1n8R
June 19th, 2009, 10:29 PM
You'll be saying that untill I get behind your whole team and critflame you all :smug:

Bodzilla
June 19th, 2009, 11:37 PM
to bad i'd just air blast you away from our team, off ledges and put my teammates on fire out.

n00b1n8R
June 20th, 2009, 12:28 AM
Too bad you'd already be dead before you knew you were taking damage. :iamafag:

Sel
June 20th, 2009, 01:26 AM
except were not

and u suck at tf2 LOL!

n00b1n8R
June 20th, 2009, 03:46 AM
It's my great shame. :smith:

Bodzilla
June 20th, 2009, 05:09 AM
got the flare gun working :P

Botolf
June 20th, 2009, 07:08 PM
got the flare gun working :P
Amateur analysis: Was in nocrit servers.