Quick Angry Rant Time!

[Jean-Luc]

Welp, been a while since I've done one of these, and while this isn't something I expected to have to rant about, I'm still mad enough to do one.

It's about the recent David Letterman "mishap," in which he made several jokes directed towards the Palin family. One joke in particular has apparently 80% of America in an uproar, judging by the forum feedback I'm seeing in other places. For those of you who have not heard of this yet, educate yourself (http://www.fancast.com/blogs/tv-news/letterman-apologizes-for-palin-joke/?cmpid=FCST_beta)

Seriously, the man made a mistake. A mistake with unfortunate implications, but a mistake nonetheless, which he apologized for! Yet, on almost every discussion board I've seen about this, at least 60% of the topics are calling for his removal from the air, calling him a disgusting pig, etc.

Now, yes I'm aware whoever wrote the joke got their facts mixed up, and that was an error for which they probably got fired. That said, I personally find it shameful that people can't excuse it, but what am I to expect from the world America these days? Don't want to come across at hate speech here, but a large percentage of the American public are fucking pussies.

I could rant about this much further, but I think this quote about sums it up:

"If anyone is disgusted by those jokes, please do not step outside your door, turn on the radio or the television. Heaven forbid your pure, virgin ears may hear a disparaging comment. Typical meathead right-wing overreaction."

And then you take a look at this:

"Today's news.
Letterman thinks it's OK to make a sexual joke about Bristol but not Willow. Because of FOUR YEARS?
And he won't even apologize.
Using gender as a basis for belittling jokes (be that rape, flight attendant dress, etc.) should be left in the past. It is a demeaning crime based in hate.
The man is obscene, abusive, and sexist. Feminists need to work together to get this garbage removed from the air."

Discuss, and if any of you were offended by this accidental joke, please explain.

[Aerowyn]

I didn't really give a shit, Bristol Palin is a whore anyway. :\

[rossmum]

"The man is obscene, abusive, and sexist. Feminists need to work together to get this garbage removed from the air."
Feminists in general are hypocritical to the highest degree and need to shut the hell up. It's all well and good to push for equal rights but I find it absolutely revolting that women can say whatever they damn well like about men, but the moment it's reversed, it's a heinous crime against humanity and the perpetrator is a revolting animal. I also love how mothers get preference in most custody battles and how domestic violence against women is taken seriously, but domestic violence against men is treated as a joke. The really die-hard ones cry about objectification of women, but nope, it's fine to do that to men.

Perhaps it's time we started marching down the street waving obnoxious banners and making idiotic reactionary comments every time someone makes a joke which is even a little bit in bad taste.

Reading through the comments on that story makes me wish the Cold War had gone hot in the worst way possible. People are such crybabies these days, the comments wasn't even that offensive and it was plainly an accident which was no fault of his.

[Sel]

fuck feminists

like sure

its cool you have rights now and stuff, and wanting to defend them but fuck no one is trying to infringe on them and you get all pissy when someone makes a joke in good humour

or over stupid fucking things like chicks starving themselves because they wanna be like paris fucking hilton

fuck that shit

[Jean-Luc]

Well the argument here really isn't about the feminists, that was just one example I saw. It's just that he made a potentially offensive comment that anyone with a brain (that hasn't been washed by sensationalist media) should instantly be able to make the connection to Bristol, the 18 year old. Anyone who thought he was referring to the 14 year old is a tool who is letting the media influence their opinions. Yes, I get the fact that it was the 14 year old at the ballgame, not Bristol, but Dave wasn't aware of that when he said the joke.

[StankBacon]

ugh, i was reading about this on another forum i go to, the fact that everyone is all worked up about this is pathetic.

[Cortexian]

In before "Only in America"!

Only in America!

I am neutral in this matter and don't give a shit either way.

[sdavis117]

It's a sad day in America when you can't make sex jokes about daughters of political figures that got themselves knocked up and made a big deal about it in the public limelight.

[LlamaMaster]

I could rant and rave all day long, but instead i'll just sum up my feelings in one sentence.

I hate (stupid, irrational, emotional) people.

[Cojafoji]

HAHA Palin's daughters are SLUTS. End of story.

[Bodzilla]

"congratulations ladies, we finally see you as equals, and i'm glad for you.
however your continually preaching to the converted, you already won. we now live in a world more tolerant to others then ever before. i think it might be time you put all this energy to a better use.
help out some other people in similar situations, help the women in countrys like Saudi arabia."

That is the thing i've wanted to say to these fucks for so long.

[English Mobster]

"Congratulations ladies, we finally see you as equals, and I'm glad for you.
However, you're continually preaching to the converted, you already won. We now live in a world more tolerant to others then ever before. I think it might be time you put all this energy to a better use.
Help out some other people in similar situations, help the women in countries like Saudi Arabia."
:eng101: Yes, I know he didn't write it.

E4: *Offending Post Retracted*
Sorry Snaf/any other Muslims here.

E2: There was not a single on-topic word in that post. To remain on-topic, I think the people who took it the wrong way are complete and utter shitheads.
E3: Actually, to continue Ross' point a while back, they are complete and utter COMMUNIST shitheads.

[Bodzilla]

die in a fucking fire and dont come back.

[English Mobster]

die in a fucking fire and dont come back.
Woah, woah, woah, what the hell? Seriously man...

[Jean-Luc]

As my faith in the future of America slowly disappears... (http://www.fancast.com/blogs/tv-news/sarah-palin-scolds-letterman-on-today/?cmpid=FCST_itn_0612)

Read the comments, some of them are horrifying :gonk:

"Had this been a family or woman or child of any other ethnic background, it would NOT have been tolerated. The tolerance of the treatment of caucasian women in this country is despicable!"

"It’s a sorry state when people of our country not only accept this kind of humor, but then defend it. This kind of talk should not even BE on television."

"WHERE ARE THE WOMANS RIGHTS GROUPS ?"

"My god, you people are uptight. RELAX. Sarah Palin parades her family around for the media and no one is supposed to take shots at them???"


" Matt,Have you ever heard of free speech? If you dont like what Letterman says, dont watch him!"

[sdavis117]

Those last two comments aren't horrible. They are actually intelligent comments.

[Roostervier]

I figure that's why he posted them, too. Or he made a mistake; either way it makes little difference. d:

[Jean-Luc]

Those last two comments aren't horrible. They are actually intelligent comments.

Take note that I said some of the comments are horrifying. :eng101:

I just put those two in there to achieve a slight balance. Also, saw a comment that got my mind working. Republicans are bitching because Letterman isn't apologizing, and saying "It's just like a liberal not to apologize." Well...weren't they just screaming their heads off at Obama for apologizing to the European countries? "He's apologizing like a liberal."

WHERE IS THE FUCKING LOGIC HERE?

owait :downs:

[Mr Buckshot]

Just another sign of political correctness gone too far, except that here it's about potential gender discrimination rather than potential racism.

[SnaFuBAR]

Due to their religion, which prohibits women's rights, preaching for feminine rights is a death sentence. Any attempt will not only put you on every Middle Eastern government's hit list (again, save Turkey because Turkey is a secular Republic), but will inspire more hatred towards the west.

How about you get educated about my religion before you go saying some horribly ignorant bullshit about it, you fucking stupid asshole? Do you know how sick I am of hearing people like you say shit?

[English Mobster]

*Offending Post Retracted*
Sorry Snaf.

[SnaFuBAR]

Snaf, I'm not trying to start anything. I apologize if I said anything to offend your religion, there was no harm intended.
Islamic law does dictate that women are to be forced into arranged marriages and not be able to go out into public without a Burma, something intolerable in the Western countries, hence, limiting their rights.

Due to that Islamic law, the religious fundamentalists which run most (but not all) of the Arab countries will put anyone who preaches for womens' rights on their hit list.

I did not mean anything against you, it was a misunderstanding. Feel free to correct me on any points I misunderstood, it's been about 8 months since I last took a class on Islam.
You're a fucking moron. You may have taken a class on Islam but you obviously got no facts out of it. You would do better not to try and explain anything about Islam because you quite obviously know nothing at all about it.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/4241/implied.jpg

[teh lag]

Snaf, I'm not trying to start anything. I apologize if I said anything to offend your religion, there was no harm intended.
Islamic law does dictate that women are to be forced into arranged marriages and not be able to go out into public without a Burma, something intolerable in the Western countries, hence, limiting their rights.

Due to that Islamic law, the religious fundamentalists which run most (but not all) of the Arab countries will put anyone who preaches for womens' rights on their hit list.

I did not mean anything against you, it was a misunderstanding. Feel free to correct me on any points I misunderstood, it's been about 8 months since I last took a class on Islam.

You're digging yourself deeper and deeper my good sir; I suggest you cut your losses.

(There's not many more foolish things than making an absolute declaration that "X religion's law demands Y", to a follower of said religion no less.)

[Masterz1337]

Woopie doo. I don't even watch letterman, but fuck ups happen when you have shows designed to make fun of people. If it's that big a problem, let the show go on and watch the rating decline. In a month no one will care.

[RecycleBin]

Snaf, I'm not trying to start anything. I apologize if I said anything to offend your religion, there was no harm intended.
Islamic law does dictate that women are to be forced into arranged marriages and not be able to go out into public without a Burma, something intolerable in the Western countries, hence, limiting their rights.

Due to that Islamic law, the religious fundamentalists which run most (but not all) of the Arab countries will put anyone who preaches for womens' rights on their hit list.

I did not mean anything against you, it was a misunderstanding. Feel free to correct me on any points I misunderstood, it's been about 8 months since I last took a class on Islam.

I belive that's incorrect. Along with the rest of your post.

Just apologize and leave.
btw http://www.al-islam.org/laws/

[Mr Buckshot]

E: But not to get off-topic or anything, Saudi Arabia is a bad example in general. Anywhere in the Middle East save Turkey is. Due to their religion, which prohibits women's rights, preaching for feminine rights is a death sentence. Any attempt will not only put you on every Middle Eastern government's hit list (again, save Turkey because Turkey is a secular Republic), but will inspire more hatred towards the west.


Jordan and the UAE are nowhere near as bad as Saudi Arabia in terms of women's rights.

[English Mobster]

Alright, alright, I apologize. I got several of my facts wrong, I realize that now.

I'm just going to stay out of this thread before it becomes a shitstorm.

[PopeAK49]

Ah shit. I hate when someone doesn't think before they post because then people get pissed off. Just for your own saftey mob, don't post in this thread anymore even if you are sorry. Apologizing doesn't really work on the net because the words are still there. You should probably go back to your post and delete it.

O and how about you guys shut the fuck up about the Palin daughters being sluts. Sure I don't like the Palins that much, but they are catholic and they can't really have sexual protection. So you mine as well call all the women who love the catholic religion sluts. Being pregnant and having a baby is not the same as being a slut, dammit!

[Jean-Luc]

Ironic post

For someone who is telling another member to think before they post, you certainly don't seem to practice what you preach. In no way does calling the Palin daughters sluts mean all catholic women are sluts. How you could possibly make that connection is beyond me, and it's actually a shining example of this oversensitivity that I'm talking about, and is the point of this thread. As for Catholic women "can't really have" protection, well that's fine...but aren't they supposed to wait until they get married to have sex anyway? And finally, considering Bristol got pregnant before she was even 18, please explain to me how being Catholic excuses her. Leave the hypocrisy out of this thread please.

[RecycleBin]

My head hurts so that automatically means women are whores and liars.

Makes sense right?

[Jean-Luc]

My head hurts so that automatically means women are whores and liars.

Makes sense right?
Not at all. What Pope was saying was, in essence:

If you say something offensive to one person of a particular group, they you might as well be saying it to everyone in that group.

Sorry Pope, but that's the mentality that is putting this country so far in the shitter so far as political correctness goes imo (and you're talking to a liberal here).

[PopeAK49]

For someone who is telling another member to think before they post, you certainly don't seem to practice what you preach.
No I don't practice my catholic religion at all so are you saying I'm not catholic?
In no way does calling the Palin daughters sluts mean all catholic women are sluts.
Your right it doesn't but the way the people who posted earlier made it sound like a lot like it.
As for Catholic women "can't really have" protection, well that's fine...but aren't they supposed to wait until they get married to have sex anyway?
Wow I'm really impressed that you are learning.
And finally, considering Bristol got pregnant before she was even 18, please explain to me how being Catholic excuses her.
Excuse her from what? Being a slut? She wan't one in the first place of being pregnant. Maybe you should learn what being a slut is.

[Jean-Luc]

No I don't practice my catholic religion at all so are you saying I'm not catholic?
You completely missed the point of what I was saying. You have no validity if you tell someone to do something, then exempt yourself from that and do what he did.
Your right it doesn't but the way the people who posted earlier made it sound like a lot like it.
I saw one post, saying "Palin's daughter's are SLUTS." That's it. There is no possible way for that post to imply he's referring to all Catholic women.
Wow I'm really impressed that you are learning.
What?
Excuse her from what? Being a slut? She wan't one in the first place of being pregnant. Maybe you should learn what being a slut is.
Was a misinterpretation on my part.

Indeed.

[n00b1n8R]

This reminds me a bit of the shitstorm we had for a few days in Australia last week when the chaser's did their "make a reasonable wish foundation" skit.
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Everyone from the PM down seemed to be BOO'ing them for it, but I thought it was funny.
I mean, who the fuck would could take anything on the chaser's seriously :S
(they got taken off the air for 2 weeks because of it too :v:)

[Roostervier]

Ah shit. I hate when someone doesn't think before they post because then people get pissed off. Just for your own saftey mob, don't post in this thread anymore even if you are sorry. Apologizing doesn't really work on the net because the words are still there. You should probably go back to your post and delete it.

O and how about you guys shut the fuck up about the Palin daughters being sluts. Sure I don't like the Palins that much, but they are catholic and they can't really have sexual protection. So you mine as well call all the women who love the catholic religion sluts. Being pregnant and having a baby is not the same as being a slut, dammit!
I'm fairly sure that catholics believe that sex is only for making babies and shouldn't be a leisurely activity. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a side of my family is catholic and I'm pretty sure that's what they believe.

[rossmum]

This reminds me a bit of the shitstorm we had for a few days in Australia last week when the chaser's did their "make a reasonable wish foundation" skit.

Everyone from the PM down seemed to be BOO'ing them for it, but I thought it was funny.
I mean, who the fuck would could take anything on the chaser's seriously :S
(they got taken off the air for 2 weeks because of it too :v:)
If you can't laugh at yourself you have no right at all to laugh at others. (You should also refrain from going outdoors.)

Even I had a bit of a giggle at the Oscar skit.

[Sel]

putting 400005 exclamation marks makes my point more right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bodzilla]

theres a dam good reason i post my pics alot :P

self detrimental humor ftw :D

[Rorschach]

I'm fairly sure that catholics believe that sex is only for making babies and shouldn't be a leisurely activity. Correct me if I'm wrong, but a side of my family is catholic and I'm pretty sure that's what they believe.
You're 100% right. Therefore, on her own terms, Letterman was also right.

[PopeAK49]

The point I'm really trying to make here people is that even though a girl is pregnant and has a baby before she is married doesn't mean that they are a slut. For fuck sakes if you guys believe the opposite then I feel as if you are total fuck tards and are the reason why this country is going towards idiocracy.

I'm not pointing this at you Jean-Luc I believe both of us came to an agreement by now. Shit I shouldn't really post with emotion because I have an 18 year old sister whose pregnant and has been with this guy for about 3 years and decided to move into an aparment with each other, i guess after a couple of months they decided that they really want a baby. Right now I'm not sure if it's that they couldn't afford the apartment anymore or there relationship got torn apart, but right now shes moving back into my house. Sorry for such emotional posts people.

[Jean-Luc]

I apologize if you felt like I was insulting you, that was not my intent. My issue with Palin/Bristol is that initially, Bristol was preaching that abstinence was NOT the way to go, then she suddenly switched sides, most likely at her mother's pushing.

As for having a baby before marriage, that doesn't mean you're a slut, I agree. However, Bristol was pregnant before 18, which is fairly uncommon. That's likely the reason for people to look at her the way they do.

[PopeAK49]

Ahh I see okay, well know we are all not mad anymore. =]

[Bodzilla]

Pope.... classic post right there man

fucking lol'd

[PopeAK49]

Err which one was the classic post :confused2:. I'm sorry I just kinda typed this stuff from the heart :p.

[Heathen]

didn't even hear about it.

[=sw=warlord]

Meh, i've not heard about this but from what i can see is the people shouting about this are causing more of a shitstorm than the person their shouting about.
So i have a comment to make to said individuals wherther its politicly correct or not.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y175/the_dark_warlord/cunt.jpg

[Jean-Luc]

Well the interesting thing is that a large percentage of the people bitching are people who have never even watched Letterman before. They're all just jumping on the bandwagon for the drama (and most of them are right-wing republicans anyway. Don't hear em bitching about Bill O Reilly possibly inciting the murder of Dr. Tiller now do we?)

Guess it isn't just Modacity that has :dramabomb:

[TVTyrant]

:| This whole battle is stupid. He didnt mean her younger daughter, he meant Bristol, who A. Rod would probably be proud to have sex with. People need to calm their shit down.