ATTN EVERYONE: Domain Public Beta

[English Mobster]

Copypasta pics from the ol' Domain thread:
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/414d69c80aa78ec3b430ad36bd8250439abea077.jpg
Red Base (Textured!)
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/092c52ba7569f12e0ba46e8975b6b7a62650b863.jpg
Blue Base
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/78e236676a9d4587b824fcae9b1c4b769b25f919.jpg
Remember Reach
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/4602cd1358d51d53431b17e26285a0c147ef75f8.jpg
Rocket Entrance
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/343298a9a38189d24255a7bf01c1d4e1e6e0c02a.jpg
Medical Tent Front (Plus Graffiti Contest winner: Ro0ster)
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/9738d0f77c1758e5a4c50446231175bb5ad58632.jpg
Medical Tent (Rear)
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/7acc970e0c7bd297dba89ac1b362ac0c116388d6.jpg
Flamethrower Building
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/f7332df9dc2c10a4d5a6e47d3c394c3ad0dfaa97.jpg
Medkit Dispenser: Red Team
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/d2de924092739811ec7cb64451f6950bf6f404e6.jpg
Graffiti Contest Winner: AdmiralBacon
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/026f6740342cc86a52bf212e38ce7d851d937dfb.jpg
Medkit Dispenser: Blue Team
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/b1ae4e87a17f70a65266cf2659587b6aaa315313.jpg
Graffiti Contest Winners: Inferno and Rhydgaled
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/d414891957cd5c335c92c5217934a4be0cae2072.jpg
Graffiti Contest Winner: Munkee
Health Dispenser in action:
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/3ad259241b373d612fb36df5678bedd4bf850016.jpg
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/ef2d948cdc9825c1efbbaabe043adc86260c29f8.jpg

Newer Pics:
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/ec68214914b9ba24fbc7aa3465bdac3fe3893d56.jpg
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/47ee7a5a5a654237d7e080a62016947063c6a86c.jpg
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/1a1c1fb6ae94b0a46c381f65f542a3dbe68d0b85.jpg
Anywho:
http://files.filefront.com/domainzip/;13918252;/fileinfo.html
IF YOU DOWNLOADED THE OLD VERSION, DOWNLOAD THIS FILE AGAIN. MANY improvements have been made since the last beta.
To tell the versions apart, this map file is named Domain_beta_2.map.
Known Bugs:
Missing collision on Medpack dispenser

Other things to do:
Replace spiral stairwell

Also, I am NOT 100% sure if I fixed the problem with the bipeds.

I have my own dedicated server up! Join!

[n00b1n8R]

I'll have a look some time tomorrow when I don't have an assignment due >_<

[Malloy]

what he said ^

[Horns]

I'll have a look right now :D

[klange]

Downloading now, going to go chill by the 114th logo...
e: Health machine needs more collision, 'eh.

Inferno's and the ODST came out really well.

[paladin]

that health machine is a nifty idea.

[CodeBrain]

What did you do with my Phantom to make it move?

AI using Command Lists, move positions, custom Animations, Custom Scenery Animations?

[sneak]

lol i like the secret area. nice music too.

just 2 pics i took of it:
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/408/secretarea1.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7395/secretarea2.jpg

[klange]

Bungnull is playing Team Slayer on Domain for the rest of the night.

Bugs:
- The sign shown above isn't oriented correctly. Fix your eggs mister.
- The bipeds are completely messed up and spawn both alive and dead on the client
- The health pack station needs collision (it syncs perfectly, btw)

[English Mobster]

I'll have a look some time tomorrow when I don't have an assignment due >_<
Alright, sure thing, Noob.

Downloading now, going to go chill by the 114th logo...
e: Health machine needs more collision, 'eh.

Inferno's and the ODST came out really well.
I thought I fixed that health machine collision issue. Oh well, that's what betas are for, right?

that health machine is a nifty idea.
Thanks.

What did you do with my Phantom to make it move?

AI using Command Lists, move positions, custom Animations, Custom Scenery Animations?
Animated scenery.

lol i like the secret area. nice music too.

just 2 pics i took of it:*snip*
Oops. That sign isn't supposed to be upside down.

Bungnull is playing Team Slayer on Domain for the rest of the night.

Bugs:
- The sign shown above isn't oriented correctly. Fix your eggs mister.
- The bipeds are completely messed up and spawn both alive and dead on the client
- The health pack station needs collision (it syncs perfectly, btw)
Thanks a lot!
-Yes, I know.
-Whoops. Just a scripting error, no biggie.
-A bug I thought I fixed.

[hry]

Very nice dude, it has potential, but you can add a ghost on blue base and a mongosse in the red one, PM me if you want the mongosse tags.

Nice job.

[English Mobster]

Very nice dude, it has potential, but you can add a ghost on blue base and a mongosse in the red one, PM me if you want the mongosse tags.

Nice job.
You know what... I had a fucking Mongoose at the Red base, but I took it out.
And there still IS a Ghost at blue base, you just need to set it to spawn.

[Inferno]

Alright. Overall very good game play except the flamer should be moved to the rocket spawn and the rocket removed completely. The map is way to close quarters for a rocket to not be cheap. Almost all the fights happen near the rubble pile and teleport to secret room. There needs to be more incentive to move to the road and tent areas. I had like 3 kills there and all the others were AR and PR fights in the building area.

Also put a OS and a dead elite in the place where the flamer used to be. Make the spiral hall a airlift (i can provide tags for airlift) fix the over bright interiors.

Fix the ass load of jumps I found out of the map. Fix biped sync error (make them scenery with custom animations)

REMOVE COLLISION ON RUBBLE its very hard to maneuver with all those little bits of collision stopping you. Fix the fire doing damage to player. It's annoying when it stops shield regen.

And make the graffiti part of the BSP so it doesn't glow and kill my frame rate. MAKE FLASHLIGHT INFINITE you use it a lot.

Now for pictures and video from the beta. :D




http://video.xfire.com/d929b-4.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/video/d929b/)





http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/aebb8ad0031dcb389275a0ee166b6b940e00554a.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/b243d8cb608e6514fd3d71dc806194305112ee79.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/9c2753b2bc91f7dc0fddbf1908afef8764570844.png

[PopeAK49]

It's okay English. Everyone knows Inferno is a cheater, lol.

[n00b1n8R]

Is that..
Is that Jay?
Is mobster Jay?

:S

[hry]

You know what... I had a fucking Mongoose at the Red base, but I took it out.


Why?

I think it gonna be great with a mongosse;o

[Sel]

It's okay English. Everyone knows Inferno is a cheater, lol.

nah, infernos fucking horrible

!

[English Mobster]

NEW VERSION UP.

If you dl'ed the old version, please redownload. This version is Domain_beta_2.map, to tell the versions apart.

Bacon, if you are still going to do the Bungnull for this, do you think you can add in a bit more than team slayer? This map supports all gametypes, so maybe some KOTH or CTF, or maybe even Oddball? Thanks.

E: The time is 12:26 AM Pacific. Sorry for the inconvenience, but I uploaded ONE last update to the first post, so if you downloaded the file between now and the time of this original posting (11:09 PM), you're outdated. I think I fixed the biped problem. I think.
I won't update anymore until beta 3, I promise.

E2: I saw you playing Domain, Llama Juice. I couldn't join your server, so I assume you're that one person who Filefront had told me downloaded the old file. Yeah. Make sure you download the new one. And sorry!

[Llama Juice]

There's some stretched UVs above the big door to the warehouse thing,
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3020/74168682.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74168682.jpg)
and the light in the warehouse is lower than your head... which just looks silly. I figured it was so you could jump on it, but you can't really jump on it... sooo... make it higher.

Also, the weird grate thing right infront of the big door to it just looks weird since it's not squarish and the grate inside it looks like it should be in a squarish hole

There's a light that has a flickering light near it, but the material for the actual light doesn't flicker with it... so it looks weird
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3303/39620024.th.jpg (http://img151.imageshack.us/my.php?image=39620024.jpg)

Make a lot of your decals part of the BSP like others have said, just make a plane and put it really close to the wall (for the graphiti and stuff) and make it render only and all that.... then you shouldn't have glowing graphiti

Get rid of the wooden doors, expecially that huge 52 foot tall one by the medic tent, they look horribly out of place

The windows near the medic tent, looking into/outof the hallway where the pistol spawns... the UVs are all messed up there too. On the other side of the medic tent from those windows there's a wall with blue windows... just to the left and right of that are some polys that don't have a shader applied?.. or a broken shader? they're solid white just like your signs that you put on the main corner. Put something on those signs other than the white... it just looks bad.

Your window in the room with the sign that says "Complex Main" on it (between the medic tent and the crashed peli) is way too high, unless if it's not supposed to be used for combat...

Also... lots of messed up UVs... I didn't wanna describe all of em... so pix.

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/333/64716536.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=64716536.jpg)
Not really a UV thing, but you got sloppy with assigning material IDs

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7433/55671433.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=55671433.jpg)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7485/69234257.th.jpg (http://img195.imageshack.us/my.php?image=69234257.jpg)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6245/45391213.th.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=45391213.jpg)

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/3019/74565375.th.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=74565375.jpg)Sparks coming out of the screen part of it? Move it to the key pad or something... it looks out of place there.

http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8693/72719014.th.jpg (http://img223.imageshack.us/my.php?image=72719014.jpg)
Random sparks coming out of cement? Put something there for the sparks to come out of...

E: Haha yup, I would be that one person... *sigh* :P

I don't really have anything to say gameplay wise 'cause... yar.... I was all alone, in my super super limited edition copy of the map... but... yar *downloads new new one*

[sevlag]

increase the shotgun's respawn timer...a certain someone *cough*inferno*cough* kept whoring it more than i did the rockets

way to easy to gewt outside via tactical jumping

[CodeBrain]

As far as I know, device_control tags will ALWAYS have no collision, even if you set them to have collision. They won't use it.

A fix would be to make the medkit dispencer into a device_machine, and then have a "dummy" device_control (No Model, Animations, Collision) and place it either on the inside of the dispencer or in front of it.

Use a script to link them together and voila!

The dispencer has collision and it works!

[Syuusuke]

Not to mention, it shouldn't also have instant reuse after using it =/

[klange]

@Code: Or put an invisible box there... Either way, the medkit dispenser shouldn't be reminiscent of my original Draco's Coke machine (which had no collision).

[Llama Juice]

But then you can do stuff like this :3

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/6133/se2h.jpg

[Inferno]

nah, infernos fucking horrible

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Quiet down joo!


It's okay English. Everyone knows Inferno is a cheater, lol.

QUIET THE FUCK DOWN!



increase the shotgun's respawn timer...a certain someone *cough*inferno*cough* kept whoring it more than i did the rockets


QUIIIEEETTTTT--- wait that ones actually true.

[Spartan094]

Wtf is with the flamethrower, i dont see the spewing firing effects of doom
and lol
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc286/Brandon094/haloce2009-06-2113-22-04-31.png
E: nvm, the flames show, my laptop sometimes doesnt load effects and such sometimes
EE:
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc286/Brandon094/haloce2009-06-2113-37-47-92.png

[English Mobster]

...I forgot the cyborg model_animations if you decide to spawn the Goose, didn't I?

[Spartan094]

I can't drive the mongoose, if you need some help ill lend you some tags

[Inferno]

Alright beta 2 thoughts.
THE SPIRAL HALL MUST GO. It kills oddball because everyone rushes it. KOTH is fun but to many nades. I think 1 starting or plasma starting might cut down on the nade spam but the nades do add to the map and some sort of AOE weapon is needed since the rockets are no more.

CTF - Move 1 flag to the garage and the other to the medic tent. The current flag positions suck and are completely unbalanecd. Nuff said.

Oddball - Fun for me but thats cause I had 60 ping. :D Oddball will be perfect when the spiral hall is gone.

King - make the hill out of the clutter of all those corpses and boxes its hard to maneuver in it.

Make it so when you crouch it takes you off radar (h2 style) and FIX THAT BOX SPAWN DARRR

One of the death planes kills you if you jump out of the building and move forwards. Fix that.

I'm sure I've forgotten some other things but I'll tell you when I think of them.




http://video.xfire.com/d9f10-4.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/video/d9f10/)





http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/f3199bb343c0fe15dd9d82fd15a0a49d6e9577b4.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/6d8bbd2188b9c04fe3c7518f2a0b44d1ae628020.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/b3e8d25e9896f8201c2d00b0f8b8a9c886923985.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/f4506abf860824ca93f5fec918419be1c26596ab.png

[English Mobster]

Alright beta 2 thoughts.
THE SPIRAL HALL MUST GO. It kills oddball because everyone rushes it.



Agreed. It's gone in the next build.


KOTH is fun but to many nades. I think 1 starting or plasma starting might cut down on the nade spam but the nades do add to the map and some sort of AOE weapon is needed since the rockets are no more.



I was thinking 1 plasma and 1 frag, Arteen-style.


CTF - Move 1 flag to the garage and the other to the medic tent. The current flag positions suck and are completely unbalanecd. Nuff said.



Doing that would require me to redo about 200 spawn points, and it won't... it won't be Turf anymore! *sob*


Oddball - Fun for me but thats cause I had 60 ping. :D Oddball will be perfect when the spiral hall is gone.



Oddball was fucking fun.


King - make the hill out of the clutter of all those corpses and boxes its hard to maneuver in it.



Primary hill has been switched with secondary hill. The new main hill is by Bacon's graffiti.


Make it so when you crouch it takes you off radar (h2 style) and FIX THAT BOX SPAWN DARRR



Box spawn fixed. I'm going to need you to walk me through getting off radar and having infinite flashlight, I can't get it working myself.


One of the death planes kills you if you jump out of the building and move forwards. Fix that.



Fixed.


I'm sure I've forgotten some other things but I'll tell you when I think of them.

*snip*
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[Inferno]

ATTN MODACITY:
I'm running domain_beta_2 on my dedi. It'll be up all day so if you guys decide to play it you got a place.

[Inferno]

Servers down for a bit. I'm working on yoyo.

[sevlag]

Servers down for a bit. I'm working on yoyo.
man i cant wait, hopefully i'll get lucky and be able to beat the build before the final build of it

oh well, i can wait for the final :D

[klange]

Servers down for a bit. I'm working on yoyo.
You closed down right when I went to join :(

[DEElekgolo]

Hey!! :C

[Inferno]

Sorry but yoyo is important. Only doing like 2 tests. Just wait like 30 minutes.

[sevlag]

wish i could play some more with ya, i know inferno loved my pro skills with the skull on oddball...

play domain on the most annoying game type :D

[Inferno]

Domain server is back up.

[English Mobster]

I'm an idiot.

Inferno gave me rcon, and I thought sv_end_game changed the map.
(It doesn't)

[English Mobster]

UPDATE:
I got my OWN dedi up and running (yay). It's working, I'm waiting, there's 33 ping.

C'mon in.

[Inferno]

Mobster is a noob.

I came home and I was like WTF my servers broken.

[Amit]

This reminds me of Turf.

[Rentafence]

It is Turf

[Heathen]

I like that picture. Also, I would have played but I had a girl that came and :/

Priorities.

[bobsam]

Video here of Domain... http://www.xfire.com/video/d9b8d/ :D

[Reaper Man]

I like that picture. Also, I would have played but I had a girl that came and :/

Priorities.
Doggy style, laptop on her back, do the maths. Gawd.

[Heathen]

Doggy style, laptop on her back, do the maths. Gawd.
http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/trillian/lmao.gif

[m13120]

Is the server still up? If it is, I can't see it. Also is the server hosted on version 1.08 or another?

[English Mobster]

Is the server still up? If it is, I can't see it. Also is the server hosted on version 1.08 or another?
No, the server's not playing Domain anymore. Expect to see it again Friday or so, while I fix a few bugs with the ODSTs and severe framerate hits due to the new air lifts.

[Heathen]

No, the server's not playing Domain anymore. Expect to see it again Friday or so, while I fix a few bugs with the ODSTs and severe framerate hits due to the new air lifts.
Heh oh god, my old box lags already on this map.
Of course I am stubborn though, and play with settings all max'd on 1280x1024.

[English Mobster]

That's exactly what I'm running on my computer, so don't worry.

I know why I have a problem, it's just because the way Inferno's grav air lifts work, it requires placing a fuckload of scenery in a single spot on a map which is pushing the limits of the Halo engine already. Inferno says he doesn't have the problem, but I do, so I'm not going to stop until its fixed.

Fake edit: I made the problem slightly better by eliminating some of the lift's scenery and just upping the individual power of each lifter-scenery-thingy, allowing the lift to still do its job while using less ingame resources.
I also exactportaled the vent containing the lift and the room the lift is in itself, which got rid of most of the problem.

I think its just my computer's age issues which is still causing a problem, but I'm getting a playable FPS, so I'd imagine on a not-barely-functional computer things will be fine.
Now I have to sort out an annoying bug with the ODSTs not listening to my multipurpose map when it comes to changing colors.

[Inferno]

You know there is a way to make the lift with just 1 damage effect but you have to make the hole deeper and put a "false bottom" in the middle. Then put a giant radius at the bottom under neath the false bottom so that 1 side of the large damage effect sort of "covers" the false bottom.

I'll draw you a picture on xfire.

[n00b1n8R]

so.. suggestions (just realised I havn't psoted them yet)

ASTHETICALLY:
Flickering signs pl0x.
More street sounds coming from outside the level.
Attach a sound effect to the phantom, it's just weird having this huge silent thing hovering around the map.
Fix the LOLBRIGHT buildings.
The ramps in the building that lead to the flamethrower are fuckugly. It's like they're lopsided and again, painfully bright. It's like you've done a totally different lighting effect inside them. Spot lighting, dynamic lights, flames, CAN YOU USE THEM?
The magically appearing bodies shit me too. Can't you just make them scenery or something? Do it how WTC did them in the secret room?
Put the cockbite soda machines back in :P

DESIGN/BUGS:
From the flamethrower room, around the edges there. Make a fucking invisible player barrier there or something, don't put a kill trigger. Nothing shits me more than me trying to explore a map and randomly dieing for no reason! >___<
In some parts of the map (specifically the blasted out buildings), using your flashlight makes it flicker like crazy to the point where it's actually better to just not use it at ll.
Put the second path back (the other pushable pathway at the warthog corner)

(I havn't played it in MP so I can't talk much about how it plays vOv)

(the E was me putting the rest of the stuff in, I accidentally submited the post before it was ready)

[English Mobster]

so.. suggestions (just realised I havn't psoted them yet)

ASTHETICALLY:
Flickering signs pl0x.
I suppose it can be done...
More street sounds coming from outside the level.
Working on it, trying to find some stock sounds.
Attach a sound effect to the phantom, it's just weird having this huge silent thing hovering around the map.
It SHOULD make noise, but it doesn't. I probably need to attach the sound to a marker on the Phantom itself rather than have it just... there.
Fix the LOLBRIGHT buildings.
Yeah, that's on my to-do list.
The ramps in the building that lead to the flamethrower are fuckugly. It's like they're lopsided and again, painfully bright. It's like you've done a totally different lighting effect inside them. Spot lighting, dynamic lights, flames, CAN YOU USE THEM?
That ENTIRE staircase is now gone. You get up top through a damaged heating vent which pushes you up.
The magically appearing bodies shit me too. Can't you just make them scenery or something? Do it how WTC did them in the secret room?
Scenery would be possible, but then it wouldn't bleed, or behave like... well, a body.
Put the cockbite soda machines back in :P
Searching for the tags now. If none can be found, I'll get to work on some.

DESIGN/BUGS:
From the flamethrower room, around the edges there. Make a fucking invisible player barrier there or something, don't put a kill trigger. Nothing shits me more than me trying to explore a map and randomly dieing for no reason! >___<
Playerclip. It's there now.
In some parts of the map (specifically the blasted out buildings), using your flashlight makes it flicker like crazy to the point where it's actually better to just not use it at ll.
I need to put more portals in to divide the map better and distribute the load evenly to stop that bug.
Put the second path back (the other pushable pathway at the warthog corner)
I've been wanting to put something there. I'll probably put Master Chief's penis a long metal rod to make the second bridge, the needler there is under-used.

(I havn't played it in MP so I can't talk much about how it plays vOv)
Oh, it's fucking fun.
(the E was me putting the rest of the stuff in, I accidentally submited the post before it was ready)
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[Inferno]

If you did scenery it would still bleed but it wouldn't move.

[English Mobster]

ERECTIN' A NEW BETA