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Rorschach

June 25th, 2009, 03:34 AM

Let's start answering questions right now.

Does the word "AVATAR" in the title deserve to be all caps? Yes.

Is this that shitty Nickelodeon cartoon? No, but that is being directed by M. Night Shyamalan (Oh goodie! Wait a minute, Shyamalan NOW, not ten years ago...), and the first teaser has been released if you care to look for it. It's called "The Last Airbender" because AVATAR got rights to that title first. Take that, Shyamalan/Nickelodeon.

You just made a thread for a movie. It's not out yet, so I guess this has a trailer? No.

Should I have heard of the movie AVATAR by now? Yes.

If I am hearing of this movie for the first time, is that OK? No.

Should I get on the ball and find out about it? Yes.

If I don't see this in glorious 3D in theaters, does that make me an egghead? Yes.

Will AVATAR literally be the biggest movie in thirty years? Abso-fucking-lutely yes.

So yeah. AVATAR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avatar_%282009_film%29). If you have not heard of this movie, I'm astounded. If you have, but aren't unbelievably hyped for it, I'm appalled. James Cameron conceived this movie fifteen years ago (he put it on hold to allow the technology to catch up with his vision); it will be his first feature film in ten years (since Titanic); it has spent four solid years in production without any public previews apart from three or so behind-the-scenes photos... until now.

Footage has been screened privately to those involved with the production (which took place in the Spruce Goose's old hangar, specially outfitted with real-time rendering equipment designed by Cameron himself, utilizing revolutionary 3D CGI courtesy of Weta Digital), and it has been specially screened to top-bill directors like Steven Spielberg, Ridley Scott, George Lucas, Peter Jackson, Steven Soderbergh, and I believe Sam Mendes, who have all described the footage along the lines of "beautiful", "unbelievable", "photoreal", game-changer", "revolutionary", "astounding", "the craziest shit ever"... you get the idea. To sweeten the deal, Stan Winston worked on cencepts for the movie.

There is a video game being released simultaneously with the movie that was overseen by Cameron personally, and created in conjunction with Ubisoft designers (who helped to expand the AVATAR universe... Cameron said that he would work with them in pre-production for any potential sequels). The graphics for the game have are pretty fuckin' decent in their own right if I do say so myself, and keep in mind they will also be presented in 3D.

Anyway, twenty-four minutes have been screened at the Cinema Expo in Amsterdam. Hype disappointment be damned, here's what the fans had to say:

"Overall I was really impressed by what I saw. The effects are in a league of their own." ... "It took my breath away. I thought–just like you guys–that I've seen it all with Gollum, or The Hulk, but Cameron has done it again. These creatures seem so real, that within minutes you forget you're watching an enormous and very blue CGI character. Even the eyes are totally convincing. The characters have real personalities and a soul."

"The audience afterwards was stunned. Everyone just gasped, wondered and just couldnt believe what they saw." ... "Until now, all we saw was the base in 3D, mostly humans and now the 2 N'avi Avatars. They look NOTHING like the drawing you've seen. They're living creatures with blue skin, bigger yellow eyes than humans with tails. The avatars even look like their human connectors. You will NOT believe the detail." ..."
The world outside is amazing. It all lives, breathes and works."

"It makes me want to create a time machine like Cartman from South Park, so that I don't have to wait till the 18th of December to watch the finished movie. If it's anything like the scenes I saw, it's going to be one of the best movies of the decade."

Here's a full overview of the footage screened at Cinema Expo:

The scoop came in from the lovely people at Coming Soon! from someone who took part in viewing 24 minutes of James Cameron’s upcoming (supposedly phenomenal) piece, Avatar. Presented in what people who have witnessed it claim it to be the best 3D movie that’s ever been in theaters, here is an in depth description of what was shown on the big screen. James Cameron’s Avatar gets a big time release in theaters everywhere and in 3D on December 18th.

"I’ve just returned from a preview screening of James Cameron’s hugely anticipated movie “Avatar” at the Cinema Expo in Amsterdam and I’m still feeling the after effects of this jaw-dropping experience. First off, I’m really not a fan of the so called 3-D craze, that’s currently taking Hollywood by storm. Before the “Avatar” screening, Fox showed us “Ice Age 3″ in 3-D and although the movie is pretty entertaining, I don’t understand why it has to be in 3-D. What is the added benefit? I just got a headache from the whole experience. For some reason or another, my eyes just can’t get used to the 3-D experience. With it comes the fact that 3-D until now has been used as a gimmick.

Would “Avatar” change my mind? With anticipation I directed my attention to the 20th Century Fox show reel. After some pretty disappointing clips from other movies like “Gulliver’s Travels” you could feel the tension in the theater. Then it appeared on the screen: AVATAR. After a brief introduction from cast members Sam Worthington, Zoe Saldana, Stephen Lang and Sigourney Weaver, we were asked to put on the 3-D glasses (really uncomfortable, especially if you already wear a pair). Most of the scenes were from the first half of the movie.

In the first scene we see Sam Worthington’s crippled ex-marine Jake Sully, who just arrived on the planet ‘Pandora.’ He’s in a wheelchair and just rolled in to hear Colonel Quaritch, played by the impressive Stephen Lang, talk to the troops. He’s giving a classic speech that every military leader gives at the beginning of a battle. Jake listens as an outsider to this speech. A melancholic smile appears on his face. Although the scene is in 3-D, I haven’t really noticed it. Finally a director who doesn’t feel the need to stick it in the audience’s face with cheap tricks like pointing objects at the camera.

In the second scene Sigourney Weaver’s Dr. Grace Augustine explains to Jake how the process of transporting your mind into an Avatar works. Although the scene is mostly exposition, we’ve got a good look at the lab and more importantly we get a first glimpse of the Avatars, the Na’Vi lookalikes. These tall blue creatures lie in water tanks, waiting for their human to ‘jump’ in their bodies. Besides Weaver and Worthington, the scene introduces Joel Moore’s character Norm Spellman. As is usually the case with Moore, his character is the comic relief.

It’s the third scene where my heart begins to pound like crazy. Jake and Norm will inhabit their Avatar for the first time. They enter some sort of capsule and – flash – their mind enters the blue creatures, now lying on hospital tables. And not before long Avatar Jake wakes up. And it took my breath away. I thought–just like you guys–that I’ve seen it all with Gollum, or The Hulk, but Cameron has done it again. These creatures seem so real, that within minutes you forget you’re watching an enormous and very blue CGI character. Even the eyes are totally convincing. The characters have real personalities and a soul.

In the fourth scene the Avatars of Jake, Norm and Grace explore the jungle of Pandora. The surroundings remind me of a planet that appears briefly in “Revenge of the Sith.” A lot of massive colorful flowers and plants grow everywhere. Jake’s unbridled enthusiasm works on Grace’s nerves. And not before long they have their first confrontation with some creatures. Some sort of rhino with a flower sticking out of his head looks like he will kill Jake, but he’s not scared and he let’s out a scream. The ‘rhino’ runs away, but not because of Jake. A more dangerous creature – a wolf? – jumps at Jake from behind.

In the next couple of scenes Jake meets Na’Vi Neytiri (Zoe Saldana). Jake finds himself alone at night in the jungle with only a torch as protection against some evil looking dogs. Eager to fight them, Jake says: ‘What are you waiting for?’ When one of the ‘dogs’ attacks him he slams the torch in the creature’s face. A fight ensues that Jake can’t win by himself. Lucky for him, there’s Neytiri who with her trusty bow and arrow helps Jake chase away the creatures. Just when Jake wants to offer his gratitude, Neytiri knocks his reached out hand away and says to Jake that killing these creatures is a bad thing. When the scene fades out to black, my mind begins to work overtime. How the hell is it possible that I never once felt like I’ve been watching a movie where almost everything comes out of a computer?

The most beautiful scene follows directly after the one I’ve described above. When Jake wants to take his torch with him, Neytiri takes it from him and throws it in the river. Like magic the flowers and plants – even the grassy soil – begin to glow in the night. The beauty completely takes my breath away. Meanwhile we get to learn more about Neytiri and her people. Everybody who knows the story of Native American Pocahontas and John Smith, will recognize a lot of similarities. Before you can sing “Colors of the Wind,” Neytiri guides Jake through her world. Mysterious flowing and glowing seeds from a mystic tree appear out of nowhere. To Neytiri’s surprise Jake attracts them. She has a look in her eyes like he’s the ‘chosen one.’ And of course she’s right. Jake has to lead the Na’Vi into battle against the massive army of Colonel Quaritch.

In the next scene we meet the Banshees. The Na’Vi ride these fierce looking creatures when they hunt. After some exposition, where Neytiri explains to Jake that a Banshee first has to respect you, before you can ride it, she takes flight and another gorgeous scene unspools. The last scene wasn’t completed. What we saw, was sort of a video-game version of the mother of all battles. Countless numbers of Na’Vi riding their Banshees attack Quaritch’s fleet. I can’t wait to see the battle fully rendered.

Overall I was really impressed by what I saw. The effects are in a league of their own. After some disappointing or even pointless 3-D movies, “Avatar” may be the first movie where 3-D is properly utilized."

Posters:
http://www.firstshowing.net/img/avatar-poster.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Avatar-logo.jpg

Early Concepts:
http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/movies/images/movie3365/large_381091.jpg
http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/movies/images/movie3365/large_381090.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_vj2e1m7Hlgw/SkOgL9utdCI/AAAAAAAAXBo/GlP4sZzbJVU/s1600/avatar-creature.jpg

Production:
http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/movies/images/movie3365/large_344059.jpg
http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/movies/images/movie3365/small_346659.jpg
http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/movies/images/movie3365/small_346923.jpg
http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/movies/images/movie3365/small_355225.jpg
http://www.ecranlarge.com/upload/movies/images/movie3365/small_355226.jpg

Video Game:
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Avatar-game5.jpg
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Avatar-game1.jpg
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Avatar-game2.jpg
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/Avatar-game3.jpg
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/avatar-game4.jpg
http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/avatar-game6.jpg

E3 Heavy Lifter (You want a mech, Teek, then THIS is what you go for):
http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img/avatar-heavylifter-E3photo-full-01.jpg
http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img/avatar-heavylifter-E3photo-full-02.jpg
http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img/avatar-heavylifter-E3photo-full-03.jpg
http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img/avatar-heavylifter-E3photo-full-04.jpg
http://media2.firstshowing.net/firstshowing/img/avatar-mechunit-MSspyshot-fullsize.jpg

Cinema Expo Concept Art:
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.scifisquad.com/media/2009/06/avatarparty.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.scifisquad.com/media/2009/06/avatarparty2.jpg

Heathen

June 25th, 2009, 03:50 AM

I was praying this wasn't that god awful cartoon.

It MAY be good.

I hated how the guy narrated the video and didn't show any video.

Boba

June 25th, 2009, 03:51 AM

I fucking love James Cameron. Shit looks amazing.

n00b1n8R

June 25th, 2009, 04:39 AM

trippy :o

Bodzilla

June 25th, 2009, 04:53 AM

This looks insane.

n00b1n8R

June 25th, 2009, 06:57 AM

Got a link to the trailer?
All I can find is this number (from a few years back :v:)
CGs3_1qKl34

Rorschach

June 25th, 2009, 11:03 AM

Incorrect, movie, Freelancer. But yeah, that's the trailer for the other movie.

Got a link to the trailer?
All I can find is this number (from a few years back :v:)
That's a fan trailer. There's no footage online yet, but there are some interviews with Cameron. Since the first footage was just shown at CineExpo, chances are that we'll be seeing something soon, too.

Higuy

June 25th, 2009, 11:07 AM

Looks like an awesome sci fi thriller. I want to see this, I hope its good. Has everything I like in it that I can see so far, aliens, shooting, giant robots, and awesome backgrounds.. And by a good movie director.

Rorschach

June 25th, 2009, 11:32 AM

ComingSoon's full overview posed on the front page, check it out.

Bodzilla

June 27th, 2009, 01:21 AM

now back to the topic at hand.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.scifisquad.com/media/2009/06/avatarparty.jpg
This looks amazing.

It's a whole new world with a whole new context..... it's suckering me in like a million dollar whore.
is there any more information on it rather then whats in the first post rorschach?

Rorschach

June 27th, 2009, 09:58 PM

is there any more information on it rather then whats in the first post rorschach?
Not really. That's why it's got everyone on the internet in such a huge frenzy. You can feeling the anticipation in the air for this one, and any comments on what has been seen behind closed doors has been nothing but good news. Other than that, there's really nothing more than what I've scrounged together in the first post that's been building up for well over a year now, so when we do actually get some tangible marketing flowing, the buzz for this movie is going to reach its boiling point after a decade on full burn.

Timo

June 28th, 2009, 12:46 AM

This thread is now about AVATAR and not Freelancer. p0lar be dealing with him later :\

Rorschach

June 28th, 2009, 01:31 AM

That being the case, can we get like the last page or so of irrelevant comments deleted?

Heathen

June 28th, 2009, 02:17 AM

Oh shi-

Ok, I know how many people hate this show. But I kind of enjoyed it when I was younger... this kind of looks neat. :rolleyes:

Anyway, carry on.

When you were younger?
This crap just came out.

Rorschach

July 2nd, 2009, 01:16 PM

Bit of an update here.

AVATAR is going to be featured at the San Diego Comic Con, and already the banners for the presentation have been put up, showing us what is most likely the first official look at the Na'Vi.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/avatarnews.php?id=56824

Bodzilla

July 2nd, 2009, 04:54 PM

blue people hmmmm.

Corndogman

July 2nd, 2009, 11:45 PM

When you were younger?
This crap just came out.

Show was on for 3 seasons, and its been off air for almost a year now (i think?) so I would consider 3-4 years younger. Especially for us in our teen years, since we change a lot in that time.

kid908

July 3rd, 2009, 12:02 AM

Damn it. I thought this was Avatar: the Last Airbender lawl.

Anyways. looks interesting enough.

Warsaw

July 3rd, 2009, 03:17 AM

I like how the banner for this movie uses a very similar font to The Last Airbender.

Aerowyn

July 3rd, 2009, 01:58 PM

I'm a little mad someone deemed my one post about the movies as irrelevant. XD

I SAID. That I would probably be interested in the game, seeing as it looks a little LOT like Halo.

I just won't see the movie. Not big on the sci-fi films.

Atty

July 3rd, 2009, 03:46 PM

Are you Dole? Roarschach duder.

Rorschach

July 3rd, 2009, 05:03 PM

rossmum

July 6th, 2009, 09:33 AM

dole my nigga i love you man wb hth oVo

On topic though, the trippy scenes sell it for me... I'm a complete sucker for stuff like that. One of the things which has kept me with the Halo series is the vast range of amazing environments, so to see something akin to that in a movie would be nothing short of awesome.

Nightlife

July 7th, 2009, 01:07 AM

This movie looks awful.

Heathen

July 7th, 2009, 02:09 AM

Show was on for 3 seasons, and its been off air for almost a year now (i think?) so I would consider 3-4 years younger. Especially for us in our teen years, since we change a lot in that time.
I am 16.
I would not call 12 a "watching baby cartoons" age.
I stopped watching barney and all this kind of stuff when I was about 8.

Yes indeedy, pumpkin-sweetie. Was waiting for Wednesday to mention it, but whatever. Noticed a comment n00binator made a few months back, and it gave me a chuckle. Figured I had nothing to lose giving you guys one last nostalgia run for a month-and-a-half.

So... I'm guessing you decided to revisit Gearbox and you noticed the corresponding threads? ;)

But seriously, this thread just got purged. If you could actually be bothered enough to have somewhere to talk about it, then start a thread, do it in user notes, or bring it to the regular chat consoles and IMs. Or whatver the hell else you happened to have in mind.
Good.
I liked you as Dole.
Srsly.
I am Warren fyi. Remember my little pissy shitstorm? Yyyeahhh. Sorry bout that guys.
E: Pissy shitstorm...hmm...could have worded that better.

Atty

July 7th, 2009, 02:14 AM

Yes indeedy, pumpkin-sweetie. Was waiting for Wednesday to mention it, but whatever. Noticed a comment n00binator made a few months back, and it gave me a chuckle. Figured I had nothing to lose giving you guys one last nostalgia run for a month-and-a-half.

So... I'm guessing you decided to revisit Gearbox and you noticed the corresponding threads? ;)

But seriously, this thread just got purged. If you could actually be bothered enough to have somewhere to talk about it, then start a thread, do it in user notes, or bring it to the regular chat consoles and IMs. Or whatver the hell else you happened to have in mind.Yeah, I figured it from going to Gearbox.

By the way, anyone from this moment on who gives this user any kind of grief will get a 24 hour ban immediately and depending upon what time of the month it is, I may choose to extend it. Past indiscretions should be kept in the past.

Bodzilla

July 7th, 2009, 03:27 AM

Yeah, I figured it from going to Gearbox.

By the way, anyone from this moment on who gives this user any kind of grief will get a 24 hour ban immediately and depending upon what time of the month it is, I may choose to extend it. Past indiscretions should be kept in the past.

~emmzee 11~

but i agree with atty on this one, if it's the will of the site.

Heathen

July 7th, 2009, 04:32 AM

I agree about the past indescretions, but maybe reword it?
It sounds like you are protecting him from arguments or disagreements.

Just don't harp on the past.

I didn't notice you got banned until someone mentioned it back when, and then I don't even know why.

Welcome back.

Bodzilla

July 7th, 2009, 04:42 AM

no more doles here discussion!

time to get on with the thread,
any rough time release?
or is this still very heavily in production?

Heathen

July 7th, 2009, 05:06 AM

I would imagine they have an approximation but I doubt anything is final.
Since we have so little footage.

Rorschach

July 7th, 2009, 09:44 AM

The release date has been set at this December 16th for over a year now. First public footage'll be probably be coming out sometime after ComicCon at the end of the month, being that Cameron's going to be giving a presentation there.

Rorschach

August 15th, 2009, 07:27 PM

EXTRA, EXTRA!!

The first Avatar trailer will be shown worldwide on August 21st in cinemas, and August 20th on the internet. Also on August 21st, there will be an exclusive 15-minute preview in the new 3D at 150 IMAX different theaters from (I believe 6-7 PM). You must reserve tickets for the preview, but the tickets are free and have not been given out yet. Visit the official site to reserve tickets (max 2 per person) this coming Monday, the 17th, at 3 PM EST. Here's the site: http://www.avatarmovie.com/

And now to hold you over until Thursday, here is the first official still released from the movie: http://www.worstpreviews.com/images/headlines/temp/temp1733.jpg

Siliconmaster

August 16th, 2009, 01:59 AM

Countdown to Thursday: initiated.

Edit: Shit that's a pretty still. Usually those look all motion-blurred and stuff. That one is quite clear. o_o

n00b1n8R

August 16th, 2009, 02:50 AM

Looks like a fucking Night Elf from Warcraft :gonk:

=sw=warlord

August 16th, 2009, 08:33 AM

Looks like a fucking Night Elf from Warcraft :gonk:
i was thinking looks like a elf from L.O.R but meh.
Il wait till a trailer first because this just isnt taking my attention all that much for some reason.

Rorschach

August 17th, 2009, 07:56 PM

Guess who just got an entrance pass to see the Avatar preview in IMAX 3D on Friday. :smug:

I will let you know in a few days how incredibly incredible it is.

Rorschach

August 20th, 2009, 12:11 PM

BAH-DUM-DA-DUM! TRAILER TIME!

For those of you like me who can't view it in glorious Quicktime HD (http://www.firstshowing.net/2009/08/20/must-watch-first-teaser-trailer-for-james-camerons-avatar/)

For those of you who can view it in glorious Quicktime HD (http://www.apple.com/trailers/fox/avatar/hd/)

It's beautiful, folks. The foliage and landscapes look real, as in REALLY real. Even the CG characters look like they have more to be seen outside of the few quick shots we got here. And hot damn, wouldn't a Halo movie look brilliant like this? Hell, the vehicles at 0:25 look like a Warthog and a Sparrowhawk. In fact, the Sparrowhawk-ish one is actually called a "Hornet".

Edit: According to this one guy, my suspicions about the way the characters were shown here was correct. http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Avatar-Trailer-Sucks-But-Don-t-Give-Up-Hope-14448.html
I'll report tomorrow night or Saturday.

Jean-Luc

August 20th, 2009, 12:35 PM

Just watched it in glorious quicktime HD.

This movie looks epic.

Hotrod

August 20th, 2009, 07:39 PM

If I didn't know better, I would say that the movie was almost 100% real live footage, not only 40% as it's going to be. Like shit, the CGI aliens look extremely real, the emotions, the eyes, everything. This is a movie I'm going to see several times if it's anything near as good as Titanic.

jngrow

August 20th, 2009, 08:00 PM

Honestly, I hate the design of the Avatars. They are just fucking annoying to look at, reminds me of night elves way too much. And that was a pretty boring trailer IMO. Very just standard looking action (even though I know it will be more than that, but to a first time observer, aside from the CG, it really is "meh"). Killer CG though.

Warsaw

August 20th, 2009, 10:43 PM

I could tell what was CG and what wasn't very easily. The CG is too smooth looking and too fluid in movement. Sounds odd, I know, but that's the best way to describe it.

That being said, it looks p cool. :smug:

Bodzilla

August 20th, 2009, 10:45 PM

do want.

really do want

ThePlague

August 20th, 2009, 10:51 PM

amazing!

Boba

August 20th, 2009, 11:13 PM

that draws so much from aliens

how could you go wrong

Atty

August 21st, 2009, 02:43 AM

The CG didn't look like anything that great. Sure, it looked good, and I'm sure the landscapes took a lot of work but they aren't anything that seem to be worth all the hype I've heard over this.

Bodzilla

August 21st, 2009, 02:47 AM

that draws so much from aliens

how could you go wrong
Kinda the same director :v:

Xetsuei

August 21st, 2009, 02:48 AM

Rorschach

August 21st, 2009, 10:14 AM

The CG didn't look like anything that great. Sure, it looked good, and I'm sure the landscapes took a lot of work but they aren't anything that seem to be worth all the hype I've heard over this.First thing I noticed when I was watching it was that the creatures didn't do it for me. At least not yet. For the next few hours, though, I'm going to take for granted what this guy had to say. (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/The-Avatar-Trailer-Sucks-But-Don-t-Give-Up-Hope-14448.html)

Finally on youtube HD (no embed): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dj-7lSFpTdg

Also on youtube:
UacLvPiz--8

Higuy

August 21st, 2009, 11:23 AM

I could tell what was cgi easily.. like it looked good, but this movie seems to have alot of hype floating around it. The movie looks cool too, but that trailer was just..uh.. I don't really know how to describe it, but it wasn't as epic as I was thinking it would be, but I thought it was still cool.

=sw=warlord

August 21st, 2009, 02:32 PM

*Yawn*
That was the all might avatar everyone has been banging on about?

CN3089

August 21st, 2009, 02:42 PM

This movie looks stupid as fuck.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-synpa.gif

sdavis117

August 21st, 2009, 03:17 PM

A movie killed by its own hype before it even comes out...

Segnaro

August 22nd, 2009, 10:48 PM

That CGI was pretty bad.

The new 3D technology they went with ain't working for me.

n00b1n8R

August 23rd, 2009, 01:33 AM

So much for that then. :saddowns:

Sel

August 23rd, 2009, 01:53 AM

why is everything removed?

also this doesnt look bad, but I'm holding judgement on this until it's out.

Ifafudafi

August 23rd, 2009, 02:29 AM

Doesn't look that amazing to me tbqh

I'll reserve proper judgment until it's released, but this looks more to me like a good-but-not-great science fantasy movie with some above-average but not cutting-edge CG. It certainly does not look like it will revolutionize the landscape of filmmaking.

Siliconmaster

August 23rd, 2009, 10:21 AM

Dwood

August 23rd, 2009, 07:32 PM

I have hope for it.

Cortexian

September 27th, 2009, 03:23 PM

Last Airbender trailer looked better.

I went there.

Oh, and I've seen both on the big screen, not IMAX or IMAX DIGITAL 3D, but still on the big screen.

This trailer reminded me of Atlantis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCmNFHFab9Q) for some reason.

Siliconmaster

December 18th, 2009, 03:28 AM

Major bump time, because I just saw this movie, and holy SHIT. I was a little skeptical, but CGI just passed the uncanny valley. The movie itself is pretty decent, but it's worth going to see it in Digital 3D (please for the love of god go to the best theater you have nearby) just for the visuals. I'm trying to be objective, having just seen it, but I'm fairly confident that I just witnessed the biggest cinematic technical achievement of the past decade.

Also, Sigourney Weaver back in a sci-fi movie. Can't lose there.

samnwck

December 18th, 2009, 05:26 AM

Just got done with it as well, I must say excellent story. This was one of those movies where i really didn't want to see it but, it would have been a mistake not to have. The special effects are out of this world, especially in 3D. fantastic visuals, captivating characters(or i thought they were anyway), all around good show.

.Wolf™

December 18th, 2009, 05:52 AM

Got my tickets, Going to watch tonight!

LlamaMaster

December 18th, 2009, 09:26 AM

Bad time to be moving to a place with a tiny theater. :saddowns:

Jean-Luc

December 18th, 2009, 11:15 AM

but I'm fairly confident that I just witnessed the biggest cinematic technical achievement of the past decade.

LotR > everything

Can't wait to see Avatar tonight though :neckbeard:

=sw=warlord

December 18th, 2009, 11:17 AM

District 9 > everything

Can't wait to see Avatar tonight though :neckbeard:
Ftfy.

Jean-Luc

December 18th, 2009, 11:24 AM

Ftfy.
Did you honestly just say that District 9 was more of a technical/cinematic achievement than Lord of the Rings?

Kindly step outside :maddowns:

mech

December 18th, 2009, 11:25 AM

Lord of the rings was a bowel movement that just wont stop moving.

=sw=warlord

December 18th, 2009, 11:44 AM

Did you honestly just say that District 9 was more of a technical/cinematic achievement than Lord of the Rings?

Kindly step outside :maddowns:
Even 4chan produced better trolls than those gremlins in LOTR.:allears:
Joking aside.
Read this (http://www.moviefill.com/5-Lessons-Hollywood-Can-Learn-from-District-9-18173/) and this (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/features/7-reasons-to-go-see-district-9-colea.php) if you want to learn a thing or two on it.
I found the 30 million budget rather interesting.
As much as i liked LOTR, district 9 takes the prize for me.

.Wolf™

December 18th, 2009, 11:55 AM

First LOTR movie kind of made enough profit that covered the costs for all three movies. lul. Avatar is gun b awesome

Siliconmaster

December 18th, 2009, 12:34 PM

LotR > everything

Can't wait to see Avatar tonight though :neckbeard:

Ftfy.

I love LotR, and District 9. I'll say that Lord of the Rings pioneered massive battles, but even now some of the special effects are starting to look a little dated. :( D9 mastered mixing CG with live action, so you couldn't tell the aliens weren't real.

Avatar just perfected both, and for that I consider it incredible. Half the movie I was trying to figure out what was CG and what wasn't, and eventually I gave up. Then I realized 95% of it was CG. And jawdropped. Plus, Weta was in the end credits, so their special effects house contributed. And D9 wasn't in 3d. Believe me, it makes a difference, especially with the new technology.

Heathen

December 18th, 2009, 01:02 PM

Going watch it tonight!

thehoodedsmack

December 18th, 2009, 01:04 PM

Gonna go see it tomorrow night, so I think I'll stay out of this thread until Sunday.

Dwood

December 18th, 2009, 01:10 PM

I might check it out tonight. idk

.Wolf™

December 18th, 2009, 04:26 PM

Watched it. It´s definitely on my top 10 and probably the best movie I have seen so far. Go watch it, you´re going to love it!

Spartan094

December 18th, 2009, 06:02 PM

It is definitely worth your money. Just finished seeing it 15 minutes ago. Best movie for visual effects I seen in a long time. Alittle bit weird in some parts of the movie but was overall good.

annihilation

December 18th, 2009, 08:40 PM

Think of this movie a Pocahontes in space.

crit:
This movie was not all that great.
It wasn't terrible though.
The story line was very predictable and the only thing that made me want to finish was all the explosions and mechs.
The diolog was not great, infact it was rather mediocre.
The visuals where amazing!! The CGI was also outstanding!
You need to see it in 3D to get the most out of the visuals.

A good movie to see. But there are better movies playing.

rating: 3.5/5

Think of it as Pocahontas in space.

Amit

December 18th, 2009, 08:45 PM

OMFG! You guys HAVE to see it in 3D. It was so fucking amazing. At times I completely forgot that they were computer generated images, they looked so damned real. You can see every detail and textures and sweat and OMG. Just go see it now and make sure it's in 3D.

Siliconmaster

December 18th, 2009, 08:50 PM

Didn't really like it.
The story line was meh.
The diolog was pretty lame.
The visuals were pretty good though.

Think of it as Pocahontas in space.

I liked the story, which was an archetypal Pocahontas/Dances with Wolves plot, but I do admit there were some lolcheesy lines. I didn't mind them though- it's a James Cameron movie, and there were quite a few amusingly cheesy lines in the Terminator movies and Aliens.

Also, "pretty good"? :raise: Did you see it in 3D? 2D I can understand that quote.

annihilation

December 18th, 2009, 09:12 PM

Yeah, I saw it in 3D.
I'll add more excitement.

Siliconmaster

December 18th, 2009, 09:18 PM

Yeah, I saw it in 3D.
I'll add more excitement.

Haha. Overall I'd say it's an ok movie with brilliant effects. Will it stand the test of time and be watched in the future? I'm not sure. Will it be a historic movie in special effects history? Definitely.

Reaper Man

December 18th, 2009, 09:24 PM

Amazing fucking movie holy fucking shiiiit. I really wanna see the 3D version now!

Hotrod

December 18th, 2009, 09:28 PM

I'm going to go see it in 3D IMAX sometime next week. I just thought I'd mention that :)

HellHound

December 18th, 2009, 09:36 PM

Reminded me of pocahontas. It was a cool 3d movie though.

Timo

December 18th, 2009, 10:01 PM

Going to see it tonight. THe only cinema in town doesn't have it in 3D though :[

Siliconmaster

December 18th, 2009, 10:04 PM

Going to see it tonight. THe only cinema in town doesn't have it in 3D though :[

I've talked with some people, and it seems that the CG is pretty damned good in 2D, but the disorientation and strangeness of the 3D helps to blend the live action and the CG a lot.

Jean-Luc

December 18th, 2009, 10:33 PM

Jesus fuckin christ that was an awesome movie. CGI was flawless; storyline, while archetypal, was handled extremely well; acting was (mostly) great...just wonderful. Hands down the most epic movie/world/event I've witnessed since the Lord of the Rings trilogy (and with better CGI to boot!).

Seriously, go see this movie. I'll sit here anxiously awaiting the blu-ray.

SilentChaos

December 18th, 2009, 10:54 PM

Holy shit! This movie blew my expectations out of the water! 3 hours of absolute excellence. I might go back and watch it again in 3D, i hear its epic.

Advancebo

December 18th, 2009, 11:37 PM

It was awesome.

Kalub

December 19th, 2009, 12:44 AM

Just saw it.... in 3d

...Damn

Atty

December 19th, 2009, 01:24 AM

Saw it tonight in 2D. I'll go back next week and see it in 3D.

Have to say, one of the best movie's I've seen in a very long time. Right now it's resting comfortably with Dark Knight and District 9 on my visually fap list.

Heathen

December 19th, 2009, 02:42 AM

Amazing fucking movie holy fucking shiiiit. I really wanna see the 3D version now!

Bring a towel because you will cream yourself.

MY GOD.

This is by far the greatest thing I have ever spent money for, and the greatest movie I ever saw.

GET TEEK IN HERE..

He would fucking love this shit.

Timo

December 19th, 2009, 04:30 AM

Epic movie, definitely up there with The Dark Knight. It sits at number two, though. It might've been the group of ten year old fuckwits sitting a couple of rows infront :mech:

teh lag

December 19th, 2009, 10:48 AM

Easy now, guys.

.

Corndogman

December 19th, 2009, 06:53 PM

As everyone has been saying, its fucking greatasticamazing. I had originally planned on seeing it in IMAX 3D, but those plans fell through so I ended up seeing the regular 2d. The visuals were still absolutely stunning. Since everyone is saying that the 3D is ridonculous, I'm considering seeing it again, possibly in IMAX 3D, depending how long those movies stay in IMAX theaters.

I was already expecting the story to be pretty shabby, but it definitely came out better than that. The story's not a masterpiece or anything, but its definitely good enough to hold the movie together and still be a great one. Dialouge is good, once again not amazing but good enough. Acting was great, its not the type of movie where the actors have to give a great performance to make it work, so they all played their parts perfectly. Only part that annoyed me was when the main girl Na'vi would cry, it sounded forced and fake, but no big deal, she is an alien after all.

Overall its still a spectacular experience. Well worth your money, possibly your soul. See it now bitch, even if you did already.

Also, blue alien tits, fuck yeah.

Heathen

December 19th, 2009, 07:01 PM

I think this tops the Dark Knight.

DK is at 2
Avatar is at 1

Llama Juice

December 19th, 2009, 07:29 PM

This movie was amazing.

Just sayin.

sdavis117

December 19th, 2009, 07:41 PM

Best 3D movie I have ever seen, and I would put it in my top 15, if not top 10 best movies of all time.

Siliconmaster

December 19th, 2009, 07:49 PM

We should really have a poll- I want numbers to help convince my skeptical friends. Hey Rorschach, or a Mod, could you stick a poll on people's opinions in? Maybe a 1-5, 1 being "terrible", 5 being "awesome". Or, maybe "liked visuals and story", "liked visuals but not story", or "liked neither". Can you have 2 polls in a thread? o_o

CN3089

December 19th, 2009, 07:54 PM

saw this movie, it was terrible, don't see it. hth.

Kalub

December 19th, 2009, 08:41 PM

I liked how they did the 3D. It was enough to immerse you in the picture, but not enough to annoy you going "OOOOOOOOH 3DDDDDDD?!!!! WE CAN THROW SHIT AT YOU OOOOOOH AAAAAAH"

That and the animation, and visuals we stunning. This is one to get when it comes out to DVD fo sho.

Heathen

December 19th, 2009, 09:01 PM

Dwood

December 19th, 2009, 09:57 PM

Does it have a good plot?

Jean-Luc

December 19th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Does it have a good plot?
It's a plot we've all heard before (several times), but the script handles it fairly well. There are a few cheesy lines, mostly by the humans, but the movie was so immersive it didn't bother me.

Kalub

December 19th, 2009, 11:49 PM

The plot, while being the usual expected thing, was completely new to me. I was actually trying to see if there was a novel counterpart to get the full story. I mean... damn I was shittin bricks all night and even the girly liked it. (She is lame...)

They really need to find a new solution to the glasses though... they hurt my head.

Siliconmaster

December 19th, 2009, 11:55 PM

The plot, while being the usual expected thing, was completely new to me.

...

They really need to find a new solution to the glasses though... they hurt my head.

Even though I basically knew the entire plot going into the movie, there were enough nuances and new angles on the archetypal story that I thoroughly enjoyed it. The glasses were a little annoying, but I used to wear glasses before I got contacts, so they didn't bother me that much. And the 3D was so smooth that I never felt like I was getting a headache from it, which I did in other 3D movies.

Ganon

December 20th, 2009, 12:20 AM

Just got back home from watching this, it's a good movie but nothing really stood out besides the CG work. The acting was rather mediocre throughout, but it wasn't too terrible. I can't really say it has much rewatchability either, it was a long movie.

Kalub

December 20th, 2009, 01:01 AM

Only part of the acting I hates was the girls wailing....

Heathen

December 20th, 2009, 01:20 AM

The acting was fine, the only terrible actress was the girl that flew the plane things, "Rebel one" girl.

She was a terrible actress, and her outfit, unlike all the others, looked like it came from a costume bin from in the early 90's.

PopeAK49

December 20th, 2009, 01:24 AM

That's because those are the only clothes that she can afford and own in real life because her terrible acting gets her no where.

Siliconmaster

December 20th, 2009, 01:29 AM

It's Michelle Rodriguez. She's a typical Cameron character from the '90s. Haha. I just accepted her as soon as I saw her, because it seemed like a logical thing to see in a James Cameron film. :P

Also, I just took screenwriting, and that movie is a perfect example of story structure, just like Titanic was. I was keeping a mental checklist, every time they showed something- yep, that's paid off, yep, that one too, what haven't we seen again in a while HOLY SHIT THERE IT IS. Lol payoff. Not a bad thing, just interesting, and fun to play with mentally.

Heathen

December 20th, 2009, 01:29 AM

And, I'll say it, I was mildly attracted to the blue women.

It was very mild and normal.

Normal.

Siliconmaster

December 20th, 2009, 01:33 AM

And, I'll say it, I was mildly attracted to the blue women.

It was very mild and normal.

Normal.

Lmao. I saw the original post via email notifications. :downs:
It was very mild and normal, but I found them sexy despite their pretty different appearance :/
But yeah, me too.

hry

December 20th, 2009, 04:03 AM

Ohh dude i watched that shit.. so amazingD:

Bodzilla

December 20th, 2009, 05:57 AM

righto any post regarding dane, or any of his posting is now getting deleted.

enough of this high brow shit and dane sometimes things where and are popular for a fucking reason. All this shit about tweeting on the go? scene kids blah blah blah is nothing but projective bullshit and i'm fucking over it.
When i was in the theatre not half an hour ago watching this brilliant movie any cunt that was talking or carrying on with shit was threatened on getting kicked out, because no one wanted to water down the experience for anyone else.

hands down the best movie experience i've seen, visuals, colour, entertainment, audience reaction, sound was great, so before you start making wild accusations and projective bullshit you need to shut the fuck up, leave your opinions at the door and then make up your mind.

but for now just fuck off.

NO MORE DANE DISCUSSION FLAMING TROLLING< RESPONDING , POSTING IN THIS THREAD

OR ELSE.
your the biggest stereotyping idiot in here and for that you can kindly fuck off.

thehoodedsmack

December 20th, 2009, 10:59 AM

Alright movie. Wasn't very fond of what's-her-name screaming all the god-damned time, though. Those scenes really felt forced to me. CG was nice, but really, the story was lacking a lot. Basically "Dances with Wolves" in Space.

Edit - Another mild complaint: Why do so many sci-fi alien races have apostrophes thrown every which way in the language? Is that common in human languages? It seems like a fallback for trying to make your made-up species sound more "foreign". And frankly, it doesn't work when it's done so often.

StankBacon

December 20th, 2009, 11:12 AM

absolutely loved the movie, cannot wait to get it in blu-ray.

Rorschach

December 20th, 2009, 12:01 PM

HOLY SHIT. GO SEE THIS MOVIE.

Right now, and if you already saw it, do yourself a favor and see it again. This is an experience that is as immersive as it gets, and I wasn't even watching the 3D version. During the first few minutes you think to yourself, "Oh damn, this was really overblown... I've seen effects like this before." And then the minute the shuttle crosses through the clouds onto Pandora it's just like "OH SHIIIIIIT!" The first shot you see ofthe human base has a scale that feels real and overpowers everything that's come before it, and it just keeps getting better from there. I personally had seen the IMAX 3D preview back in August, so right from the get-go I instantly recognized what I was missing out on as far as the new perspective it adds, but this movie swept me in before I got hung up on it. Still seeing it again in 3D, though. Can't wait.

The scale is like nothing you've seen before, the 3D you've never seen before, and the CGI, my God, the CGI, you have never seen before. Maybe in split second bursts here and there, but NEVER in perfect quality for every single thing on screen at the same time for virtually the whole movie. You'll be watching the spray of water or the way something drags through mud and you'll be saying to yourself "This is real". It's ridiculous. Then to top it off, James Horner comes to the table to wrap it all up nicely in a musical score that draws from almost everything in his resume. You don't even have to listen carefully to hear where it echoes Titanic , Apocalypto, and Troy.

The only comments I've heard for this movie that weren't positive were about the story, the dialogue, and some of the characters. Well, although you've seen the story a million times before, there's a reason for that: It's a classic conflict. The only place you'll be seeing it more than in movies in your future is in your world. Whether it's a neighbor's eviction or whole countries fighting to protect their land from invaders, this is a timeless struggle, and it'll always be popping up from time to time. No reason it shouldn't here. Dialogue? Back in August I would've agreed with you 100%, as it was something I had noticed myself. After Parris Island, I'll just flat-out say that's exactly how Marines talk in real life. While I was watching it this time through, it didn't stand out because I was already used to it. Characters like the military badass and the corporate pig? Hey, if a motherfucker's got a job to do and he's too distant from the situation to interact with the people whose lives he's affecting, he's not going to give a shit and he's going to do everything in his power to get that job done. Life Parker Selfridge says "The only thing worse than bad press is a bad quarterly report." The most he knows is that he has bigger, closer problems to deal with involving his superiors if he doesn't. You grow up in New York City, you pick up on that shit pretty goddamn quick.

Final word of advice: Make sure to ask for a ticket to the 3D theater to get the full experience!

Chainsy

December 20th, 2009, 12:28 PM

Saw it in 3d, fucking epic, will get on DVD.

Con

December 20th, 2009, 12:49 PM

It seems like a fallback for trying to make your made-up species sound more "foreign". And frankly, it doesn't work when it's done so often.
Apparently they had the language designed for them. They even have a bunch of words, naming conventions, and grammars that are never used in the movie.

Siliconmaster

December 20th, 2009, 01:39 PM

Apparently they had the language designed for them. They even have a bunch of words, naming conventions, and grammars that are never used in the movie.

Yeah. It's not like they were randomly making up gibberish- James Cameron went to a linguist and had him design the entire language. The linguist gave him a bunch of different choices for the sounds, and that's what Cameron picked.

Then to top it off, James Horner comes to the table to wrap it all up nicely in a musical score that draws from almost everything in his resume. You don't even have to listen carefully to hear where it echoes Titanic , Apocalypto, and Troy.

What pleasantly surprised me was that the score had elements and chords from some of Horner's previous films, but the score itself is mostly original. Coming from Horner that's the end of the world. His scores in the '90s were all nearly identical, and it had begun to grate on my nerves. I mean, seriously, Titanic and Braveheart are the same frigging score.

That being said, I really like Horner's Avatar score, and I commend him for putting so much new effort into it.

CN3089

December 20th, 2009, 02:43 PM

what the fuck is wrong with you people this movie was terrible

the only thing that could've saved it was the entire blue-cat-elf species getting genocided into oblivion

stephen lang was badass though so that's something I guess?

Kalub

December 20th, 2009, 03:13 PM

TROLL ALERT

CN3089

December 20th, 2009, 03:28 PM

TROLL ALERT

this is a no troll zone

i just don't see why everybody liked this movie I mean maybe if you go to movies just to watch pretty explosions it would be acceptable to you

that's all I got, [TELL] me why this was not a trainwreck

Bastinka

December 20th, 2009, 04:41 PM

Gotta wait till it's out on DVD in Germany, then pick up an English version.

Rorschach

December 20th, 2009, 04:59 PM

Edit - Another mild complaint: Why do so many sci-fi alien races have apostrophes thrown every which way in the language? Is that common in human languages?
Yes, actually, but it's for the most part nonexistent in Western languages. Thus why there is no letter to represent it in the Roman alphabet and that is compensated for instead by an apostrophe to mark a break in the flow of speech. The apostrophe takes the place of the "glottal stop" and the "guttural stop", vocal sounds that Western explorers encountered when they began to sail to other continents and came into more intimate contact with other races and began to document aspects of their culture and account for things such as language.

kid908

December 20th, 2009, 09:35 PM

Just saw it and Holy Fucking shit. It didn't even feel like I was watching a movie. 3D made it awesome. I might go back and see it in IMax 3D. I wasn't expecting a very good story, seeing how it's James Cameron, but it was better than I expected.

with a crew of over 950 visual effects artists, I must say that movie was 0.o. I couldn't tell the difference from fake and real, except those obviously non-earth things, but that's only because of the design, not the visual. Outstanding visuals.

It's the age of exploration type stories...in Space.

I love the Banshee in this movie!

SnaFuBAR

December 21st, 2009, 03:11 AM

Just saw it in imax 3d tonight. Gotta say, I love Neville's work. He was an instructor of mine and also did creature creation for this film. The story was very well set up to explain Pandora itself, which is what was so important about this film. All the story needed to do for character interaction was show the difference in opinion between groups about this-or-that, and it did it well enough.

Great film, I absolutely recommend seeing it.

Higuy

December 22nd, 2009, 03:54 PM

Just saw it with some friends. Didn't see the 3-D version though, however the movie was still outstanding. I really want to go back and see it in IMAX 3-D.
The storyline was pretty decent, graphics were practically mind blowing, voice acting could of been better, but I don't really care about that.

either way, amazing movie, must see now :iamafag:

Phopojijo

December 22nd, 2009, 04:42 PM

I don't know my opinion of the movie...

They seem to want to self-contain the movie... so they fed pieces of information inside it in little chunks...

Which makes it long and predictable -- because you can tell what parts (hammerheads, for instance) will appear later on in the film.

On the other hand, they also made you identify with the characters -- not individually -- but collectively. Individually they were kinda 1D.

They also didn't beat you over the head with the 3D aspect of it... it was used subtly... too subtly in a couple of parts, as per below:

Never DOF blur foreground objects in 3D! If it pops out at you, you might want to focus on it... which if it's DOF'd is impossible... and ruins the illusion. DOF only for the background, if at all... preferably not at all.

In 3D you have less control over what the audience sees... and so the common 2D trick of using DoF to draw audience focus just doesn't work.

**

Oh and the emotional moments were blown out and some of the dialogue was cheese... but the higher-level story (not dialogue, story) was great.

CrAsHOvErRide

December 22nd, 2009, 04:59 PM

Gotta wait till it's out on DVD in Germany, then pick up an English version.
I live in the middle of nowhere and cinemas here have the movie running in English.

Siliconmaster

December 22nd, 2009, 05:01 PM

Never DOF blur foreground objects in 3D! If it pops out at you, you might want to focus on it... which if it's DOF'd is impossible... and ruins the illusion. DOF only for the background, if at all... preferably not at all.

In 3D you have less control over what the audience sees... and so the common 2D trick of using DoF to draw audience focus just doesn't work.

Basically, the only way they could avoid that is to have everything in focus, which looks very weird and fake in 2D. It's a tradeoff- you either have it look perfect in 3D, or you have it look nice in both, and have to deal with those issues. After the first 10 minutes or so, I found that if I let my eyes follow the focus line, the movie placed everything where it needed to be in terms of focusing. After that, I had no problems with it. You just have to train your eyes not to focus on stuff in the foreground.

kid908

December 22nd, 2009, 06:12 PM

I agree with the DOF Blur. 3d already gives it that depth, you don't need to blur it, the eye will naturally do it.

They had to render it 3 different times times for 2D and 3D, I don't see why they couldn't turn off blur for the 3d version.

edit: live action camera blur is fine, but the pandora blur really kills the visual.

Bodzilla

December 22nd, 2009, 08:29 PM

i think you guys where thinking about the 3d too much when you where watching it.

15 minutes in i just let the movie show me where to look and i never had a problem.

Bodzilla

December 22nd, 2009, 08:31 PM

if your thinking about that too much your gunna give yaself a headache.

15 minutes in i just let the movie show me where to look and everything was brilliant.

Hotrod

December 23rd, 2009, 12:12 AM

I just saw the movie in 3D, and man, it was fucking amazing. There;s not much else to say about the movie that hasn't already been said, so I'll just leave it at that :)

Heathen

December 23rd, 2009, 12:14 AM

i think you guys where thinking about the 3d too much when you where watching it.

no, thats just it. I didn't even remember it was in 3d after a while.

It was soo immersive.

Reaper Man

December 23rd, 2009, 01:23 AM

Saw the 3D version today. The 2D version just doesn't compare. Damned awesome.

Heathen

December 23rd, 2009, 01:23 AM

Saw the 3D version today. The 2D version just doesn't compare. Damned awesome.

indeed.

Phopojijo

December 23rd, 2009, 01:34 AM

You know what the weird thing is? I saw the movie this morning at ~11:30am... and as the day progressed after I left the theatre, the more I liked the movie.

I started off cringing at Unobtainium and the campy dialogue at multiple points etc... but I guess as time went on I was thinking more and more about the higher-level story and theme and THAT I really enjoyed.

I dunno, it's weird.

Interestingly enough James Cameron said he has 2 sequels thought up (after the opening weekend success)...

I can't really think of any meaningful direction except the campy ZOMG THE HUMANS COME BACK WITH A BIGGER ARMY HURRRR approach... or the Shrek-style sequels where it's like... following their life in the tribe itselfBoth of which would seem to be *terrrrrible* no matter how they played it.

So yeah, I dunno. But -- I'd be interested to see what'll happen.

Heathen

December 23rd, 2009, 01:54 AM

I think it would be a earth is pissed
sequel.

Timo

December 23rd, 2009, 02:11 AM

You know what the weird thing is? I saw the movie this morning at ~11:30am... and as the day progressed after I left the theatre, the more I liked the movie.

I've got the same problem - I really want to go see it again already :x

Hotrod

December 23rd, 2009, 10:03 AM

I've got the same problem - I really want to go see it again already :x
I second this statement. I thought that a nice 8 hours of sleep would have calmed me down, but it only made things worse...or better? I don't think I consider wanting to see it again as having made things worse...

Phopojijo

December 23rd, 2009, 12:02 PM

I've got the same problem - I really want to go see it again already :xThe weird part is originally I was of the "meh" opinion. Now, I *really* like it o.O

n00b1n8R

December 24th, 2009, 05:39 AM

sublimenal messages itm

Siliconmaster

December 24th, 2009, 10:04 AM

I need to see this movie again. In IMAX 3D. Nao.

Dwood

December 24th, 2009, 10:20 AM

Okay, that plot was amazing. Most people get too attached to the characters to not let them die but yeah James Cameron knew how much killing a bunch of characters (that are more than just nameless boneheads) off adds to the amazingness of a movie and its story. Plot was really good to me. Typical and predictable in some ways, yet there was a couple of points where I was like "whaaaat" - they didn't just follow what the people in film school told them to do, they made those suggestions to fit the plot.

Anyways, the more I think about it (like phop) the more I have to watch it. I can't believe I thought the movie would be stupid.

ExAm

December 24th, 2009, 04:10 PM

God damnit, why aren't there any 3D theaters in my area!?

Phopojijo

December 24th, 2009, 06:36 PM

God damnit, why aren't there any 3D theaters in my area!?Well then... get a BluRay drive, an nVidia Stereo monitor + glasses, and wait a few months :p

Rorschach

December 24th, 2009, 07:56 PM

Going to the Loews IMAX on Broadway in the city tomorrow to see this again (after seeing the 15 min. 3D IMAX preview in August and the full movie in 2D last weekend), The Road in all its limited-release-Oscar-powerhouse glory, and if I have the time or the willpower to keep my ass in a chair for another two hours after all that, Sherlock Holmes. I would see Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus tomorrow, also, but there is no way I'd be able to make it through a fourth. Anyway, Merry Christmas to me, indeed!

StankBacon

December 25th, 2009, 02:33 AM

just got back from seeing it in 3d, awesome.

mech

December 25th, 2009, 03:46 AM

Something about the colonel punching that handicap guy in the face made me laugh.

Heathen

December 25th, 2009, 05:36 AM

just got back from seeing it in 3d, awesome.

2d vs 3d?

Kalub

December 28th, 2009, 10:45 AM

3d fo sho, also we need to let this die till the dvd comes out so I will be excited, k?

Phopojijo

December 28th, 2009, 05:43 PM

In summary:

3D DeviantART's Pocahontas with a BIGGGG budget and a draft script.

DarkHalo003

December 29th, 2009, 09:20 PM

The movie was good. However, I think there were more ways to express the troubles with the Indians, Pollution, the Vileness of Corporations, and that something is greater than all of us. Oh and also that if the Natives had flying Pterodactyls back when we were expanding West, we'd all be screwed.

*Side Note: The tags for the topic are beyond hilarious. Props to Modacity for it.

Dwood

December 29th, 2009, 11:25 PM

I am actually interested in how the 2nd movie (if there is one) works out... To see what James Cameron thinks about it all and to understand his message a bit more. It wouldn't be any Shrek or Toy Story 2 where they basically hired off another director for it... it'd be closer to a Matrix 2/3... in terms of sequels, I believe.

Hotrod

December 30th, 2009, 10:57 AM

James Cameron mentioned in an interview somewhere that he was thinking of exploring other planets/moons in the sequel, since there are plenty of moons orbiting the planet shown in the movie.

Lateksi

December 30th, 2009, 11:32 AM

Random

January 2nd, 2010, 05:48 PM

The movie is like watching a dream.

Dwood

January 2nd, 2010, 05:53 PM

The movie is like watching a dream.

2 and a half hour amazing dream.

Gwunty

January 2nd, 2010, 06:15 PM

saw this
first movie I enjoyed in a while

ODX

January 2nd, 2010, 09:32 PM

Saw it in 3D, really really liked it.

Why is it though, that all villains these days must be motivated by greed alone? And all leader/tough guy important people take fucking forever to kill?

Other than that, the story was very enjoyable and original, and as said, the CGI was great.

Yoko

January 3rd, 2010, 12:08 AM

Why is it though, that all villains these days must be motivated by greed alone?

The need for a resource such as Unobtanium, American military superiority, fear of the unknown, weapon advancements assuring victory

Saw this a week ago, I was like :downsdance: the rest of the day, great movie.

EX12693

January 3rd, 2010, 12:31 AM

Saw in IMAX 3D. For free. I was a combination of :neckbeard:,:woop:,:downsdance:,:pcgaming:,:holy:, :eekdance:, and:parrot:

OmegaDragon

January 3rd, 2010, 01:38 AM

Saw it on IMAX 3d yesterday. The CGI was amazing and it had an interesting story. Overall I give it a 4 out of 5 on my book.

Cortexian

January 7th, 2010, 05:44 PM

Just finished watching the IMAX 3D version, quite possibly the best movie of 2010... Destroyed Sherlock Holmes in my opinion, and I didn't have many problems with the storyline either (though there were a few)!

Phopojijo

January 7th, 2010, 06:12 PM

Bodzilla

January 7th, 2010, 08:23 PM

made a billion dolllars so far.

thats awesome.
it's awesome.

Chainsy

January 7th, 2010, 09:16 PM

This movie is horrible tbh you guys are insane. It was merely a rip off from the famous disney snow white, characterized by the seven clans of the navi, saving the sleeping beauty (jake sully). Igno fags.

Dwood

January 7th, 2010, 09:49 PM

Chainsy

January 7th, 2010, 09:52 PM

I never trole. This movie sucked in everyway possible and merely took inspiration from the great hit of a movie snow white was. Disney only wanted to bring love to the life of kids everywhere, james cameron instead ripped it out and sprinkled it with blue men porn. I give it - 5 stars. Also the cgi sucked, made WOW look like crysis.

SnaFuBAR

January 7th, 2010, 11:25 PM

SnaFuBAR

January 7th, 2010, 11:27 PM

Cortexian

January 8th, 2010, 09:23 PM

Chains you faggot, get dead.

I can't get over how well they did the 3D, hopefully we'll have a TV that's capable of displaying 3D by the time the Blu-Ray comes out (what's required for modern 3D Blu-Rays? 240Hz televisions?)... I also hope they include a non-3D version of the movie on the Blu-Ray, just so I can check it out in 2D.

Bodzilla

January 8th, 2010, 09:35 PM

they do have screens capable of doing it, it's just the prices are insane

Siliconmaster

January 8th, 2010, 09:56 PM

Cortexian

January 8th, 2010, 10:27 PM

they do have screens capable of doing it, it's just the prices are insane
I know that you can get 3D with the nVidia glasses setup and a 120Hz monitor, however I'm just wondering what the specific requirements are for televisions since they usually just bundle cheaper 3D glasses with the Blu-Ray. I'd assume a 240Hz (or higher) television would be a must?

Also, do Blu-Ray 3D releases work like the IMAX version? As in polarized 3D instead of that shitty blue/red 3D? If there's going to be shitty blue and red lines everywhere on the 3D Blu-Ray version it will just completely ruin it for me!

ODX

January 8th, 2010, 10:39 PM

Also the cgi sucked, made WOW look like crysis.Wow, just shut the fuck up Chains. How about you try making all of that then, hmmm? Inventing/making the equipment yourself, shooting it all, capturing motions, then putting it all together near seamlessly?

The movie looked amazing, you can't deny that one bit.

Chainsy

January 8th, 2010, 10:43 PM

Naw it sucked, the cgi in the barbie princess chronicles for 2 dollars at walmart is better then this.

Needles

January 8th, 2010, 10:48 PM

Siliconmaster

January 8th, 2010, 11:04 PM

Also, do Blu-Ray 3D releases work like the IMAX version? As in polarized 3D instead of that shitty blue/red 3D? If there's going to be shitty blue and red lines everywhere on the 3D Blu-Ray version it will just completely ruin it for me!

I didn't know you could have a 3D blu-ray, cool.
I usually wait for movies to come out on DVD or blu-ray for me to watch, and this movie does sound pretty awesome, can't wait for it.

James Cameron helped solidify the plans for the technology only a few weeks ago. As for the glasses, it depends on the tv, not the blu ray- I believe most use alternating frequencies, so the glasses would be the brand of the tv you have.

Bodzilla

January 8th, 2010, 11:19 PM

Phopojijo

January 8th, 2010, 11:42 PM

I know that you can get 3D with the nVidia glasses setup and a 120Hz monitor, however I'm just wondering what the specific requirements are for televisions since they usually just bundle cheaper 3D glasses with the Blu-Ray. I'd assume a 240Hz (or higher) television would be a must?

Also, do Blu-Ray 3D releases work like the IMAX version? As in polarized 3D instead of that shitty blue/red 3D? If there's going to be shitty blue and red lines everywhere on the 3D Blu-Ray version it will just completely ruin it for me!***Special Treat to those who read the post all-the-way to the end... you'll thank me later***

Yeah there's a few things wrong with your assumptions.

Almost every 120Hz and 240Hz TVs accept only 60Hz inputs... and using a little logic they guess in the in-between frames. They have NOTHING to do with 3D.

Here's pretty-much the complete list of all TRUE 120Hz TVs on the market (or otherwise 3D capable):
http://www.3dmovielist.com/3dhdtvs.html
Notice how only 19 of them are LCD/Plasma/CRT... and the rest are those boxy rear-projection... and of those 19 -- 2 are laptops.

If it's not on this list... yeah... basically you can't do 3D on it regardless of what the box says. The shutters flip at 120Hz... but the plugs attached to it only listen to 60.

Most 3D BluRay movies will run on synchronized shutter glasses. Basically each eye will only see half of the refresh rate that the TV gives. If you have a 120Hz monitor (that actually can accept 120Hz... not just smooth out between frames). This requires some sort of synchronization device (having left eye open while the right eye is visible would, needless to say, ruin the effect)... nVidia uses Infrared -- but the old ones were wired.

***********

In the movies you have a few more options... and the reason why is because you can have a really fucking expensive projection in a movie theatre... as long as the glasses are cheap because they're basically 1-use.

As a result... there's a few options...

The first is having vertically and horizontally polarized light... without going into light theory... basically one has every photon's electric field pointed up and down... and the other has every photon's electric field pointed right and left.

You can have one eye block up and down... and the other block right and left... and you'll be fine. The problem is if you then need to keep your head perfectly straight.

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The second corrects this problem by adding a circular-to-linear polarizer on the lens. Clockwise light would convert to either horizontal or vertical -- and counter-clockwise would convert to the other. Since it's spiral-shaped... turning your head doesn't change the direction of the spiral -- so you can always get the correct polarization in the correct eye. This is "RealD".

The problem is you then need a special screen to preserve polarization of light upon reflection... that's expensive.
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The third way -- which is VERY rare -- uses a little colour science. Any colour can be made up of red, green, and blue. You can make an eye see yellow by giving it one particle of red, and one particle of green.

The way Dolby gives 3D is it has two slightly different shades of red, two slightly different shades of green, and two slightly different shades of blue.

One R/G/B set gets blocked by the left eye but transmitted by the right... and vice versa. The difference in the Red-Left/Red-Right, Green-Left/Green-Right, Blue-Left/Blue-Right is just ~15nm. No polarization required -- left sees a full set of RGB values... right sees a full set of RGB values... and thus, 3D.

************************

The anaglyph 3D you see here --

http://www.newfreedownloads.com/imgs/20964-w520.jpg

is not used by just about anything anymore... let alone BluRay 3D.

... Just about the last use of Anaglyph 3D is Youtube... and it's also got an option for "Crosseye 3D" which gives you a migraine after 2 minutes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qftUs9ppnbA&NR=1

((Click the drop-down menu under the video and select "Cross-eyed"... then cross your eyes and look at the video in the centre))

And yes... Youtube has allowed 3D since like -- July.

To that I say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkBN1FX8rqE

POW! HAHA!

Cortexian

January 9th, 2010, 01:05 AM

Ah, very good information there, I was under the assumption that Blu-Ray 3D would go down the road of nVidia's shutter glasses since you only need refresh rates of 120Hz to pull it off. I didn't know that most of the higher Hz televisions available only accepted 60Hz inputs though.

Before Avatar the last 3D experience I had without expensive Nvidia shit was the color altering method, and overlaying that over a feature film just fucks up all the colors and ruins the experience. I did know that IMAX used "RealD" polarization when I went into the theater and when I heard that they were going to retail a 3D Blu-Ray I was wondering how they'd do it.

Bottom line, we shouldn't get a new TV any time soon if we want to make use of Blu-Ray 3D features in the future, correct?

Phopojijo

January 9th, 2010, 01:36 AM

It all depends... there'll be a huge blitz of 3D-ready TVs... probably in the summer or before Christmas.

If you want a rear-projection TV with the whole quick-to-die bulbs and such -- it's good now. The big LED-LCD TVs will be coming shortly... CES had several of them... including an LG LEDTV that has backlit LED.

********

To explain why the eye only needs Red Green and Blue light to see all colours -- is because our eye can only see Red, Green, and Blue.

Here is a picture of the full spectrum of light... and what the "Red detector" can see... what the "Green Detector" can see... and what the "Blue Detector" can see. (The thin black line is how our perceives brightness, not colour... so it's useful for like... nightvision and edge/detail detection)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Phopojijo/human_cone_action_spectra.png

As you can see... Yellow light causes both Red and Green retina nerves to respond. So technically... firing a red photon and a green photon at two adjacent red and green retina nerves... will produce the same response as two yellow photons... one hitting a red, one hitting an adjacent green.

So how can your eye tell the difference? It can't!

A side note -- the red and green overlap a lot... the more those two receptors overlap in response... the more red/green colourblind the person will be. Why? Well if the red sensors and the green sensors both respond exactly the same to any given photon... a green sensor can see a red photon and a red sensor can see a green photon. Colourblind.

(The guy the picture was modeled after was probably slightly colourblind... but that's just a guess).

Red/Green/Blue Colour isn't some Physics-given... it's just how our brain works. It sees how close a photon is to either Red, Green, and/or Blue... and then says "Well it's halfway between red and green... so it must be yellow".

Cortexian

January 9th, 2010, 09:20 PM

Ah okay...

So most 3D capable televisions are goign to use "RealD" style shutter glasses and I assume 3D projectors will use the polarization method used in IMAX 3D flicks? I can't seem to find much info on 3D capable projectors on Engadget, have you seen any information regarding these?

Phopojijo

January 9th, 2010, 09:30 PM

... no... but I seriously doubt projectors will use RealD. The real cost in RealD is the special silver-based screen that preserves polarization on reflection. I believe REAR Projection TVs work on it... but yeah.

Cortexian

January 10th, 2010, 03:19 AM

Well, I know that if they decided to mass-produce some screens like that the cost would definitely go down, and it's not like the entire screen is made of woven silver... I guess we'll have to wait a few more years for home theater 3D to catch on before that happens.

Cortexian

January 14th, 2010, 03:14 AM

Double posting because I just got back from seeing this again in IMAX 3D, god it's so good... One of those movies that I'd rather live in than real life, know what I mean? I can't believe how amazing the 3D and CGI on this movie come together for an almost surreal immersion experience, I'm not ashamed to say that this movie actually shook me a small bit... I just grabbed the soundtrack and it's pretty awesome as well, however could someone tell me what this trailer music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRdxXPV9GNQ) is?

Jean-Luc

January 14th, 2010, 03:28 AM

Trailer music (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyxA1rRE3-0&annotation_id=annotation_130161&feature=iv)
:eng101:

Cortexian

January 14th, 2010, 03:32 AM

I knew I heard it before! It was from The Island, which was also a pretty good movie... Kinda weird that they'd use a movie soundtrack song in another movies trailer isn't it?

Siliconmaster

January 14th, 2010, 01:58 PM

I knew I heard it before! It was from The Island, which was also a pretty good movie... Kinda weird that they'd use a movie soundtrack song in another movies trailer isn't it?

It's actually fairly common. Often a separate company does the trailers for movies, which is why the music isn't from the movie's soundtrack- it hasn't been written yet. These companies have libraries of music, and I've heard that clip from "The Island" before, so some smart person in charge of that soundtrack must have sold the rights to advertising in return for that I'd assume to be a large sum of cash.

thehoodedsmack

January 17th, 2010, 12:36 PM

Avatar Sequel Confirmed. (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/01/08/avatar-sequel-confirmed-by-james-cameron-and-heres-what-wed-like-to-see/) Well, then. Let's see if they can make the sequel even more cliche.

Siliconmaster

January 17th, 2010, 04:05 PM

I just saw the movie again, in IMAX. Still just as awesome as last time. I'm interested to see what they do with the sequel. If anything, it would have to be less cliche, because the basis of the story has already been covered.

Phopojijo

January 17th, 2010, 04:29 PM

Great time for the announcement... just long enough to push people into theatres when demand SLIGHTLY dribbled a bit.

Cortexian

January 17th, 2010, 05:26 PM

Meh, I'm sure that I wasn't the only one who left the theater the first time thinking "I wonder what the sequel will be like?" and not "I wonder if there will be a sequel"?

thehoodedsmack

January 17th, 2010, 05:50 PM

If they're going to make a sequel, they'd better have the humans come back and completely destroy the Na'vi. Give the movie a tragic ending, and leave the viewer reflecting on the troubles of military industry. Otherwise, I can't think of a single acceptable way to make an enjoyable sequel to this movie. I still can't believe so many people liked it.

Huero

January 18th, 2010, 11:03 PM

actually saw this
it was not as good as it was made out to be, and was predictable at every point in the story
pretty tight as a movie none the less

Cortexian

January 19th, 2010, 04:08 AM

It was every bit as good as it was made out to be! :maddowns:

Heathen

January 19th, 2010, 04:15 AM

Timo

January 19th, 2010, 06:08 PM

'Avatar' pulled from 2-D screens by Chinese government (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/entertainmentnewsbuzz/2010/01/avatar-pulled-from-2d-screens-by-chinese-government.html)

According to a report in the Hong Kong newspaper Apple Daily, the move was made at the urging of propaganda officials who are concerned that "Avatar" is taking too much market share from Chinese films and drawing unwanted attention to the sensitive issue of forced evictions.

:mech:

Hunter

January 19th, 2010, 06:26 PM

Saw this movie a while ago, and fuck me. It is AMAZING. Awesome visual effects, and awesome storyline!

And I find it weird that I found the blue girl (main character) attractive, as 1. Shes CG and 2. She's blue... and alien.

Best film EVER though, I don't understand how people don't like it.

Inferno

January 19th, 2010, 06:32 PM

And I find it weird that I found the blue girl (main character) attractive, as 1. Shes CG and 2. She's blue... and alien.

Guess someones a closet furry. You and m00kz should go out.

Heathen

January 19th, 2010, 06:35 PM

EX12693

January 19th, 2010, 07:47 PM

bet they didnt like District 9 then.
Fuck took the words right out of my mouth.
Welp. Kinda odd how it showed this guy falling in love with an alien. Guess he's a furry too.

Con

January 20th, 2010, 06:21 PM

LOVE IS UNIVERSAL

Limited

January 20th, 2010, 06:49 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/19/entertainment/main6114914.shtml

Taiwanese Man Dies after Watching "Avatar"

Report Claims Man with High Blood Pressure Suffered Stroke from "Over-Excitement"

Ouch, sucks for him.

Heathen

January 20th, 2010, 06:59 PM

saw that.

Was loling.

Reaper Man

January 21st, 2010, 12:47 AM

Needles

January 21st, 2010, 03:15 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/01/19/entertainment/main6114914.shtml

Ouch, sucks for him.

I feel bad for laughing at that.

Huero

January 21st, 2010, 03:53 PM

bet they didnt like District 9 then.

funny, as it's a much better film

yes I just said that

Cagerrin

January 21st, 2010, 03:56 PM

funny, as it's a much better film

yes I just said that
and you're damn right.

story > visuals, and pocahontas is pretty terrible tbqfh.

Huero

January 21st, 2010, 04:44 PM

and you're damn right.

story > visuals, and pocahontas is pretty terrible tbqfh.

when it comes to actually looking real district 9 is better anyway
though I will say the visuals in avatar are indeed fantastic

Heathen

January 21st, 2010, 04:49 PM

D9 had a more original story, but I hated the main character for all my soul.

Avatar was better.

Siliconmaster

January 21st, 2010, 05:00 PM

when it comes to actually looking real district 9 is better anyway
though I will say the visuals in avatar are indeed fantastic

D9 and Avatar were done by the same effects company at the same time. :eng101: I would propose that D9 looks more "realistic" because the color palette is less colorful, and therefore more "realistic" compared to the human/normal stuff. Avatar has a photorealistic, yet surreal look to it. I know that's a little oxymoronic, but that's the best way I can describe it.

Cortexian

January 21st, 2010, 06:42 PM

*dedicates life to finding Pandora*

It is after all quite obvious that they just sent a film crew there and filmed all of this!

Dwood

January 21st, 2010, 07:51 PM

And I thought the effects in Lotr The Return of the King were good.

Warsaw

January 23rd, 2010, 02:29 AM

Actually, the effects in Return of the King were decidedly bad for a movie of its caliber. Gollum was good, but a lot of the other stuff just struck me as "woah, there's some shady CGI" instead of "holy shit it's going to melt my face!"

rossmum

January 23rd, 2010, 03:43 AM

fucking gorgeous environments. my eyes were popping out of my head the whole time. the story is a bit cliche and the message too, but that said it's a message which is seemingly ignored at every turn so i guess that's not too much of a problem. the character design pissed me off. they made the n'avi look like something right out of a furry's deviantart page; rather than go with more creative or sensible designs, they basically decided to draw inspiration from the aforementioned in order to appeal to the masses (furries, weeaboos, etc.) easily. cheap, in my book. that said they did do a good job of making them seem like legit indigenous tribes. the fact that marines were referred to as being army men at the start would no doubt piss any real marines off, but that's more a nitpick than anything else.

the aircraft design was more than a little awesome, largely because they didn't overdo it and based them heavily on existing craft or concept art for future space shuttles. the native wildlife was alright, perhaps a bit too samey at times but there was some interesting variety and it was also cool to see inspiration drawn from pterodactyls and even two animals at once sometimes (rhino, hammerhead).

visuals were fucking stunning, and the use of 3d helped immensely. it was also a very rare legit use of 3d, which is to say not throwing shit at the audience every five minutes just to wave your dick around

overall, glad i saw it, but also glad i waited for it to become less of a zoo. worth the hype? maybe, maybe not. worth watching? definitely.

and holy fuck, do i wish earth had more phosphorescent flora and fauna.

Cortexian

January 23rd, 2010, 04:16 AM

TL;DR:

:aaaaa:

I can testify to that being Rossmum's expression almost 90% of the movie since I saw it with him (again, XD).

L0d3x

January 23rd, 2010, 05:10 AM

I finally got around to seeing it myself yesterday, it was absolutely stunning. And I love the 3D effect.

It's amazing how the brain works, at the start of it all, the action scenes seemed somewhat blurry due to the brain not being used to this new level of cinema, however you can feel it adjusting and near the end, you can enjoy the film in it's full 3D glory!

And my god, yes, the environments and fauna+flora were absolutely stunning.

rossmum

January 23rd, 2010, 12:50 PM

at first thought the glowy trees brought back bad memories.

getting lost for hours on first playthrough of 343 gs aaaaaa

Huero

January 23rd, 2010, 03:09 PM

by the end of the movie I hardly noticed the 3D. am I the only one?

Chainsy

January 23rd, 2010, 03:20 PM

the character design pissed me off. they made the n'avi look like something right out of a furry's deviantart page; rather than go with more creative or sensible designs, they basically decided to draw inspiration from the aforementioned in order to appeal to the masses (furries, weeaboos, etc.) easily.
I think you're reading this off wrong. Most people if you called them a furry would not have any idea of what the hell you're talking about, us being on the internet, we can make a connection like that plausible as furries are a huge deal in our "society". What he wanted to do I think, is to create an entirely different alien species, but because of the whole falling in love factor, he had to give them somewhat humanoid personalities and parts so people felt more passion for the love then "ewww bestiality". Remember in district 9, the cross species prostitution? I bet you didn't go "awwww yeaa". Anyways, furries are people who masturbate to animals with humanoid parts (no shit) and so when we see these humanoid species, we automatically think OMFG FURRY. Same effect as when you see a cross with bent ends you think "omfg nazis" when it is a very important sign in Buddhism.

rossmum

January 23rd, 2010, 04:03 PM

i know but seriously, huge eyes, pointed ears, cat noses, blue skin with tigerstripes, and tails? isn't there some better way to make them seem human-like and not gross everyone out totally, but also not make them so painfully furry-like?

EX12693

January 23rd, 2010, 04:19 PM

I'm with Rossmum, but on a different level. At first I thought "Wtf why would Cameron design an alien species like this. Is he a furry?" I mean seriously. It's Pocahontas with furries. :gonk:

Bodzilla

January 23rd, 2010, 05:47 PM

i didnt have a problem with it tbh.

it's only a problem if you make it one

My 2 cents

L0d3x

January 23rd, 2010, 05:53 PM

I thought the na'vi were cool... I didn't associate them with furries at any time. They were simply human like in appearance, I'm assuming to draw in the viewer emotionally.

Heathen

January 23rd, 2010, 06:42 PM

TL;DR:

:aaaaa:

I can testify to that being Rossmum's expression almost 90% of the movie since I saw it with him (again, XD).

are you two engaged yet?

Heathen

January 23rd, 2010, 06:42 PM

Yeah, the furriness didn't bother me.

rossmum

January 23rd, 2010, 06:59 PM

i didnt have a problem with it tbh.

it's only a problem if you make it one

My 2 cents
it's more that they didn't seem very creative than that they reminded me of furries

are you two engaged yet?
i'm going to literally murder you,

EX12693

January 23rd, 2010, 10:02 PM

Well it didn't really bother me either. I just thought the na'vi should've been less... human like. Even just slightly.

Dwood

January 23rd, 2010, 10:39 PM

I bet mookz didnt care

sleepy1212

January 24th, 2010, 12:13 AM

just finished watching this in 3D. thought it was awesome. the environments were amazing. the creatures were pretty cool too and i like how they followed a consistant morphology although the na'vi in that respect were out of place. i also liked the bioluminescence of nearly everything. (you can blame my 4 years of ecology for that crit)

if i didn't have to go to work and be a grownup i'd start eating acid again just to make life look like pandora lol.

story was shit and i guarantee we'll see a hundred more just like it before we die. best character in the movie: pandora.

Phopojijo

January 24th, 2010, 12:18 AM

Looking like it'll reach 2 Billion Foreign + Domestic combined in its life. First movie ever o.O

Cortexian

January 24th, 2010, 06:08 AM

I too was uneffected by the furriness until I started reading peoples opinions on the character design. I see how it could be construed as such but there are good reasons for them being as they are.

Also, I want bioluminescent plant life. I'll have to go to university for bioengineering now just so that I can create a gas that will genetically alter all plants on earth to be bioluminescent!

Good_Apollo

January 24th, 2010, 06:27 AM

http://en.wikivisual.com/images/8/80/Glowing_tobacco_plant.jpg

Tobacco Plant spliced with Firefly genes. Not as exciting as one would think.

t3h m00kz

January 24th, 2010, 06:55 AM

I bet mookz didnt care

sure didn't :realsmug:

rossmum

January 24th, 2010, 11:53 AM

http://en.wikivisual.com/images/8/80/Glowing_tobacco_plant.jpg

Tobacco Plant spliced with Firefly genes. Not as exciting as one would think.
Are you serious? That owns.

sleepy1212

January 24th, 2010, 11:57 AM

Tobacco Plant spliced with Firefly genes.
lies!

Cortexian

January 26th, 2010, 12:26 PM

Fireflys are so awesome.

http://ongoingworlds.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/firefly.jpg

Siliconmaster

January 26th, 2010, 01:49 PM

Fireflies are so awesome.

Ftfy. :realsmug:

Phopojijo

January 26th, 2010, 01:50 PM

http://en.wikivisual.com/images/8/80/Glowing_tobacco_plant.jpg

Tobacco Plant spliced with Firefly genes. Not as exciting as one would think.
Light up that plant!

TeeKup

January 26th, 2010, 02:14 PM

Just saw the movie the other night. Most amazing thing I've seen to date.

Btw, twirly lizard is awesome.

Cortexian

January 26th, 2010, 03:35 PM

Paint yourself blue and then post about it.

Nero

February 4th, 2010, 10:57 PM

HOLY FUCK. Holy fuck

Holy shit that was awesome.

EX12693

February 5th, 2010, 12:57 AM

Finally saw it eh? Yeah. Awesome.

Cojafoji

February 5th, 2010, 01:20 AM

just got finished watching it a couple of minutes ago.

meh.

basically dances with wolves.

Siliconmaster

February 5th, 2010, 01:21 AM

basically dances with wolves.

That wasn't the point. :P As clarified earlier in this long discussion thread, the movie was much more about the visual accomplishments than it was the generic story.

EX12693

February 5th, 2010, 01:27 AM

Yeah. Story? Not awesome. Visuals? Awesome.