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Dole
September 7th, 2007, 03:35 PM
You do realize the one kenney's making looks like its just based on the one on the SII was holding. The old one looked like it was based on the one the SIII was holding
As far as I'm concerned, CMT's MA5K rifles are only true to the cover in the academic sense: they're carbines with an ambiguous shade of gunmetal that were being wielded by Spartans.

Other than that, true resemblances are null. If you truly examine the structure and detail of the MA5K's in the high-res scans, it's just an MA5B with the electronics housing and lengthened foregrip removed. In their stead, a [rail that clips onto the rifle at the edge of the stock in front and the foreface of the comb at the back] and various auxiliary grips were added respectively. The only other difference between the MA5K and the Assault Rifle featured in H1 is that the former's muzzle has a vent on both sides.

In closing, the bolt's arm and tab should be no different than that of the MA5B or MA5C, and the bolt itself should not be located on the comb but immediately under the rear anchor of the rail. Also, the rail is pretty lame as of now. Spice it up. (http://media.teamxbox.com/games/ss/1353/1188239671.jpg)

Dole
September 7th, 2007, 10:11 PM
Edit: Oh yeah, I found it. I was almost positive there was one there, but my main reference was just a promotional pic and not the final ingame product... and considering I've played the game about once for ten minutes in the past four months I couldn't trust my memory to it, anyway.

Leiukemia
September 7th, 2007, 10:23 PM
the 3rd person model of the halo 1 AR had the ejection port, I never noticed whether they put it on the 1p

DaneO'Roo
September 9th, 2007, 04:33 AM
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/1271/chokebaseda9.jpg

:?

Patrickssj6
September 9th, 2007, 04:35 AM
Ugly :haw:

DaneO'Roo
September 9th, 2007, 04:36 AM
Ugly like your mom

;D

DaneO'Roo
September 9th, 2007, 09:15 AM
Tiled textures are tiled.

No shit >_> What am I going to do, stretch them?
needs moar specular (that's shiny right? :3) :awesome:

There is no spec there, I couldn't be fucked making all the separate specular maps.

.

fatso784
September 9th, 2007, 10:59 AM
If this is 3ds max, then you could have placed a light somewhere, just to give us a general idea how it would look ingame. Other than that, looks great!

Mass
September 9th, 2007, 11:14 AM
Its maya, but he could have placed a light in that too. anyway it looks cool but I think it needs to be more complex.
I'll draw a picture.

Sever
September 9th, 2007, 11:49 AM
Way too simple, yet if it gets the job done, go with it.

PenGuin1362
September 9th, 2007, 03:37 PM
sometimes the simplest of things are the best >_>

DaneO'Roo
September 9th, 2007, 06:01 PM
If this is 3ds max, then you could have placed a light somewhere, just to give us a general idea how it would look ingame. Other than that, looks great!

There is a light, obviously.

SnaFuBAR
September 10th, 2007, 03:48 AM
oh hey, i decided to drop by and give a lil update on the pk machine gun.

http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/8831/pkm3fp9.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9947/pkm2sm4.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/4209/pkmwt6.jpg

ExAm
September 10th, 2007, 10:18 AM
You call that update little? Also, needs more bipod.

SnaFuBAR
September 10th, 2007, 12:47 PM
4700 triangles at this point (remember it has internals). bipod is coming up, soon as i finish a couple of details.

ICEE
September 10th, 2007, 01:16 PM
damn its incredible

Tweek
September 10th, 2007, 01:33 PM
damn its incredible
nah, not rly.

PenGuin1362
September 10th, 2007, 01:53 PM
shut up mr. i draw mechanical machines with penis parts. go back to work on your sucky box modeled machine <:mad:>

:) <3

Tweek
September 10th, 2007, 02:09 PM
:awesome:

ExAm
September 10th, 2007, 11:14 PM
shut up mr. i draw mechanical machines with penis parts. go back to work on your sucky box modeled machine <:mad:>

:) <3I box model :(

legionaire45
September 10th, 2007, 11:24 PM
I box model :(
MY METHOD OF MODELING IS BETTER THEN YOUR METHOD OF MODELING ~:hyper:>.

Here is something else I started:
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25300372687.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6572743)

Obviously not done yet, I'm still working on smoothing and the front grip is a temporary piece of epic fail. I should probably finish some of my stuff some day xD.

kenney001
September 10th, 2007, 11:47 PM
Wow nice...I like the shape. Its very origional. Nice work....

Cant really give real criticism until you think its done. Besides the front grip and few smoothing errors in the back grip, it looks pretty good.

ExAm
September 11th, 2007, 12:02 AM
MY METHOD OF MODELING IS BETTER THEN YOUR METHOD OF MODELING ~:hyper:>.

Here is something else I started:
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25300372687.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6572743)

Obviously not done yet, I'm still working on smoothing and the front grip is a temporary piece of epic fail. I should probably finish some of my stuff some day xD.I'm trying to learn Max, but it's just not coming to me :(

Con
September 11th, 2007, 12:07 AM
Here is something else I started:
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25300372687.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6572743)

Obviously not done yet, I'm still working on smoothing and the front grip is a temporary piece of epic fail. I should probably finish some of my stuff some day xD.
Beautiful :D

SnaFuBAR
September 11th, 2007, 12:41 AM
Its very origional. Nice work....
actually it exists.

PenGuin1362
September 11th, 2007, 02:36 PM
actually it exists.

yea it's a new american smg >_> but looks ok. kinda of a small render

Leiukemia
September 11th, 2007, 04:23 PM
Yeah, I think you need to switch to photobucket or something legionnaire, putfile blows it out the ass.

Tweek
September 11th, 2007, 04:42 PM
you could.. like... CLICK THE IMAGE :awesome:

use www.xs.to (http://www.xs.to) for iamges.

fatso784
September 11th, 2007, 06:07 PM
That looks like an Uzi and a pistol combined. Great job though!

Leiukemia
September 11th, 2007, 06:09 PM
What? It always just goes to error page whenever I click the picture.

ExAm
September 11th, 2007, 06:47 PM
yea it's a new american smg >_> but looks ok. kinda of a small render
Found it: Kriss Super V (http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg96-e.htm)

f2kEg8rEPl8

legionaire45
September 11th, 2007, 07:39 PM
I'm trying to learn Max, but it's just not coming to me :(
Fellatio (http://tutorials.moddb.com/291/creating-a-weapon-for-source/) and furfaggotry. (http://tutorials.moddb.com/16/beretta-9000-video-tutorial/)
Those 2 vids show all the workflow/ui stuff that really helps when working in max, those 2 vids really really helped me with my modeling. You already have a modeling method that works for you, but hell, they will give you a little insight on plane modeling if you don't already know.

Yeah, I think you need to switch to photobucket or something legionnaire, putfile blows it out the ass.
Once I figure out the whole website-design without tables (xD) thing imma make myself a portfolio website and not use poopfile D=.

Found it: Kriss Super V (http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg96-e.htm)

f2kEg8rEPl8
Thanks for the vid, that actually is really really helpful there. <3.

ExAm
September 11th, 2007, 08:27 PM
Fellatio (http://tutorials.moddb.com/291/creating-a-weapon-for-source/) and furfaggotry. (http://tutorials.moddb.com/16/beretta-9000-video-tutorial/)
Those 2 vids show all the workflow/ui stuff that really helps when working in max, those 2 vids really really helped me with my modeling. You already have a modeling method that works for you, but hell, they will give you a little insight on plane modeling if you don't already know.I can't even box model in Max. My method only works with Wings.

Leiukemia
September 11th, 2007, 09:14 PM
<3 Kriss. I remember some guy on cdg modelled one, I watched that vid, fell in love. lol.

Ingulit
September 11th, 2007, 09:25 PM
I can't even box model in Max. My method only works with Wings.
I only model with Wings. You can do pseudo-plane-modeling in Wings, but it takes a lot of practice with the concepts behind it... I'll write a tutorial when I get time, because I get asked how to do this a lot. I had to teach myself, basically.

The premise is to set up an image plane of that which you wish to plane model, move it back in the X-axis about 50 units, and Scale>Uniform your image until it's absolutely ginormous. Now lock your image plane so you can't select it. Now change your viewing mode to Orthographic and view down the X-axis (Default Hotkey "X"). Create>Cube, and select the face facing you. Press "F" or "+" once to select the four attached faces, and use Face>Dissolve to leave yourself with only one face. Then select the body of your plane and Body>Auto-Smooth it to give it all hard edges. You can then use this plane to make the basic shape of the part you are modeling by cutting the edges and moving the verticies freely while you are viewing down the x-axis (Tip: I made "T" a hotkey for both Edge>Cut>2 and Vertex>Move>Free; note, however, if you decide to do this, that the Turn plugin sets your "T" hotkey to Edge>Turn whenever you restart Wings. To get around this, either turn of the Turn plugin when you aren't using it or use another hotkey). Once you've made the basic shape, you can select one of the faces and Face>Extrude>Normal to make your primitive. There are more advanced things you can do with this, but this makes up the general idea.

Yay random off-topic tutorials!

PenGuin1362
September 12th, 2007, 07:16 PM
i like the look. besides, it pwns Australians anyway so, it wins all the same

ExAm
September 12th, 2007, 10:20 PM
Ugly, but it does the job and does it well :awesome:Ugly? You would think so. You and your smooth, wood-framed guns.

Con
September 12th, 2007, 10:23 PM
Ross is too old school.

DaneO'Roo
September 13th, 2007, 02:02 AM
Legion, that gun is win D:

I've never seen that gun before.

DaneO'Roo
September 13th, 2007, 02:57 AM
http://img103.imageshack.us/img103/9477/chokerender1xp8.jpg

Whole thing is like a weeks work so far, not far off being finished either. I just finished the ground terrain and unwrapping the cliffs today. This is just to get my head around max and the editing kit. I can stuff this map up first, then get my proper map (Retina) ingame much easier, with less fuck ups along the way, considering it has alot more shaders and textures and hard stuff to deal with.


Btw, the map is not tilted in favor, it's just the perspective angle I have it at, for those of you confuzzled. Right now the whole map including the bases is 8000 triangles.

Sever
September 13th, 2007, 06:20 AM
What is it with everyone and conventionally low and uniform cliffs?

DaneO'Roo
September 13th, 2007, 07:11 AM
Well i dunno how you do it in Max, but Maya it was:

Nurbs > draw outside perimeter line of the ground, about 20 seconds.

Convert to poly, it becomes a plane.

tessellate to fuck.

Sculpt tool, interchange between heighten and lower, changing the softness and size, start sculpting the geometry like clay (similar to zbrush and mudbox, but less accurate settings). 1 hour.

Extrude the cliffs upwards from the outer perimeter.

Tessellate to fuck.

Sculpt tool again. 30 minutes.


Select the whole model. Reduce poly (till desired ratio of poly amount - detail)


Walah.


Oh sever, this is a test map, to learn the hek. I really couldn't be fucked varying the cliff geometry, therefore making unwrapping all the more of a hassle.

Sever
September 13th, 2007, 09:59 AM
I fully understood that it was a test map. I know that you care less about the cliffs and terrain than the fact that it will be a completed and running map, and that you will have the HEK experience. I'm just saying this about all maps in general. Even Blood Gulch and Danger Canyon are way to simple and unnatural for my tastes. I hope to get some awesome cliff modeling NOT using the displace method done in a few weeks.

Llama Juice
September 13th, 2007, 10:14 AM
my first gun model

http://www.llamajuice.com/renders/ppk/20.jpg


http://www.llamajuice.com/renders/ppk/24.jpg


http://www.llamajuice.com/renders/ppk/25.jpg

OmegaDragon
September 13th, 2007, 11:07 AM
I can barely see the model while you have those skins. Please, put a skylight on that scene and render with lightracer and no textures (preferably a gray-ish color).

Hunter
September 13th, 2007, 11:08 AM
XM8 Carbine Rifle. It isnt finnished yet, but this is my first weapon i have made and its the first model i have made using plane modeling. its a simple weapon with not much detail so i couldnt add much:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/xm8_carbine.png
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/xm8_carbine_2.png

OmegaDragon
September 13th, 2007, 11:21 AM
That carbine looks a bit too blocky for my taste >.>
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/97/250px-20059114333SYMPOSIUMXM8MARINE.jpg

Notice how the back and the handle have more a more smooth and curved look, while yours looks blocky and has chamfered edges.

Scooby Doo
September 13th, 2007, 02:09 PM
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/Scooby_Doo_Dog/marine-smg.jpg

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/Scooby_Doo_Dog/smg_d-04.jpg

smg wip


http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e189/Scooby_Doo_Dog/007.jpg

sniper wip (idea from huxley)


~Scooooooby

Patrickssj6
September 13th, 2007, 02:13 PM
I fucking love the sniper :awesome:

Tweek
September 13th, 2007, 04:42 PM
the sniper is wrong from the concept :awesome:

also:
http://xs219.xs.to/xs219/07374/quake-4-20050923081444230.jpg
you using the original normalmap?
would look pro in h2v, when weapons become an option.

DaneO'Roo
September 13th, 2007, 04:49 PM
^ Nah, those look baked to me...

Scoooooooooby D: why did you not mirror the sides of the sniper :'( Wasted uv space makes me sad panda.

Also, the sponge filter is waaaaaaaaaay too evident on that sniper. It'd look much better if you painted the detail.

Tweek
September 13th, 2007, 04:50 PM
:/ that's the original high res cage. (exept for the scope)
i've got the wireframe of it.
and if you think those look baked, you have a fail-eye

Mass
September 13th, 2007, 05:20 PM
This BSP is a work in progress of mine, it was oringinally going to be a UMT map but following my "resignation" I don't know where it's future lies.
So what the hell. BTW I will smooth it, so you don't have to mention that.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender9.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender10.jpg
There is much more to it but I have yet to make some updated renders.

DaneO'Roo
September 13th, 2007, 05:59 PM
As said before, looks awesome. Now you don't have those UMT bastards to shit it up.

Scooby Doo
September 13th, 2007, 07:01 PM
the sniper is wrong from the concept


wtf r u talking about? i didn't follow a concept, the original idea was from huxley. notice how i said "(idea from huxley)"? and how can u tell me that an idea is wrong?

~Scooby

DaneO'Roo
September 13th, 2007, 07:37 PM
:/ that's the original high res cage. (exept for the scope)
i've got the wireframe of it.
and if you think those look baked, you have a fail-eye


Nope, those are baked lighting and bumps. I'm sure scooby will tell you himself. If they aren't then, those are the worst bumps I've ever seen.

Btw, I'm talking about scoobys sniper and SMG, not the render you posted Tweekie.

Rob Oplawar
September 13th, 2007, 07:48 PM
This BSP is a work in progress of mine, it was oringinally going to be a UMT map but following my "resignation" I don't know where it's future lies.
[pics]
So what the hell. BTW I will smooth it, so you don't have to mention that.
There is much more to it but I have yet to make some updated renders.

Like i said in rep, not bad, I like!

Tarzan
September 13th, 2007, 07:53 PM
Wow!! where'd you get the 1337 idea for the bases [grin]... I'm interested to see what becomes of this project sans UMT...

Teh Ganon
September 13th, 2007, 08:40 PM
As said before, looks awesome. Now you don't have those UMT bastards to shit it up.

i love you too.

SnaFuBAR
September 13th, 2007, 08:53 PM
just swallow your pride and admit it looks better without the team, because it does.

Teh Ganon
September 13th, 2007, 09:57 PM
Oh i have accepted it will look better, but it doesn't excuse my love for dano. He thinks up the nicest and most intelligent things to say.

Mass
September 13th, 2007, 09:59 PM
tbh, what it looks like at this point is not really dependent on the team, snaf, but thanks for what I assume is a back-handed compliment.
also, unfinished like rest of map, base interior
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/baseinterior.jpg

Teh Ganon
September 13th, 2007, 10:01 PM
the insets in the floor look a bit deep?

SnaFuBAR
September 13th, 2007, 10:03 PM
looks like there's a glass plane over them to me.

Mass
September 13th, 2007, 10:05 PM
Bingo.

Teh Ganon
September 13th, 2007, 10:11 PM
Ahh i see it now. I mistook it for a shadow. Now im wondering what purpose it servers to have an inset there and a glass plane above it? Its different... hmm

Mass
September 13th, 2007, 10:16 PM
Ahh i see it now. I mistook it for a shadow. Now im wondering what purpose it servers to have an inset there and a glass plane above it? Its different... hmm
It looks pretty, are you foreign to the concept of something being aestetically pleasing? ;)

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 07:54 AM
Now you don't have those UMT bastards to shit it up.

Actually it can't possibly be better than it did when he was part of UMT, other than the improvements he himself did since then. We didn't do anything with the BSP anyway, it was all Massacre's project.

Also, D4NO, why do you have to be so ignorant to others? There ARE other people outside of CMT that have skillz, just because they aren't in CMT doesn't mean they suck.

Tweek
September 14th, 2007, 07:59 AM
Actually it can't possibly be better than it did when he was part of UMT, other than the improvements he himself did since then. We didn't do anything with the BSP anyway,
then it was fail, because teams are about TEAM EFFORT AMIRIGHT?


Also, D4NO, why do you have to be so ignorant to others? There ARE other people outside of CMT that have skillz, just because they aren't in CMT doesn't mean they suck.

people outside CMT, being the rest of the world population.
i can bet half the world population have more "skillz" than cmt has.

you post fails, because everyone knows CMT sucks, and 80% of "cmt" have no "skillz"

also, umt sucks too, so thats double fail :haw:
ps. cocks.

Killerelf
September 14th, 2007, 08:04 AM
you post fails, because everyone also, umt sucks too, so thats double fail :haw:


UMT barely exists anymore... More than half the team left...

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 08:05 AM
Tweek, don't twist my post around to what you want it to say. Stay out of this. D4NO needs to wake up and smell the Mocha. He may be the best texturer, but that doesn't mean he can put down others.

Killerelf
September 14th, 2007, 08:20 AM
Theres people in this world that are like that. We just have to deal with em sometimes. =\

Tweek
September 14th, 2007, 08:29 AM
Tweek, don't twist my post around to what you want it to say. Stay out of this.

*twists words :v

also, no.

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 09:32 AM
I'm not jumping to conclusions. D4NO has done this multiple times before. I know more shit about this than you know, rossmum. Don't jump to conclusions.

Pooky
September 14th, 2007, 09:34 AM
This BSP is a work in progress of mine, it was oringinally going to be a UMT map but following my "resignation" I don't know where it's future lies.
So what the hell. BTW I will smooth it, so you don't have to mention that.


There is much more to it but I have yet to make some updated renders.

I can't tell from those angles but the outside looks a bit flat. Other than that it looks nice.

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 10:06 AM
Wow you are a cruel and horrible flamer. :downsgun:

I'm sorry you took my post the wrong way.

Rob Oplawar
September 14th, 2007, 10:07 AM
Ross, dammit, stop doing that. Don't make me -rep you.

Con
September 14th, 2007, 10:10 AM
Also, D4NO, why do you have to be so ignorant to others? There ARE other people outside of CMT that have skillz, just because they aren't in CMT doesn't mean they suck.
http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-supaburn.gif
yeah not really

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 10:19 AM
In rossmum's world: This isn't a democracy... http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs19/f/2007/237/e/7/THIS_IS_SPARTA_v2_0_by_DoooM.gif

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 10:27 AM
Sorry, care to enlighten me as to the purpose of that post


Yes, I will enlighten you. But you should get it by now. You don't try to sway others opinions through diplomacy. You just use your experience to force people into believing you. And if they don't see your point, you'll get majorly pissed, like you are now.

Btw, the spartan reference is to spartan democracy, where a bunch of old guys screamed their opinions at the top of their lungs, and the loudest would have their say on a spartan issue for the day. :hist101:

Plus I'm not even arguing witnh you about CMT anymore rossmum. I don't feel it'll amount to anything, just a bunch of needless posts and this topic getting locked. (praying for someone to post a picture of a WIP..please...anyone?)

Tweek
September 14th, 2007, 11:50 AM
rossum wins.

/thread

Killerelf
September 14th, 2007, 12:26 PM
Maybe, just maybe, it's because of the sheer volume of bullshit that I see?

Your post took Dane's comment, a mere chip at UMT for being known as a ripping team (which they were, with the exception of one or two members)


We ripped? In what way ripped? Ripped as in from HCE maps, or as in stolen from H2... Because I never heard of the latter going on, and as for the former... I have no clue...

Scooby Doo
September 14th, 2007, 12:40 PM
rossum wins.


gosh u teh nooblet! it's spelled rossmum* ...DUH! /sarcasm

anyways, i could care less about this bickering, control your egos and please take it to IM or PM or something. thx

back on topic:

it looks pretty good, Massacre. Although the ceiling in your render is flat and somewhat bland and boring. try spicing things up with gruves and shit. and the floor looks ok, but with everything else having a much smoother and rounded look, i would only expect the floor to have the same flow. so round off the corners of those squares a bit (45 degree angles at least).

other than that, great work! it's comming along very nicely. :]


~Scooby

Agamemnon
September 14th, 2007, 12:41 PM
Btw, the spartan reference is to spartan democracy, where a bunch of old guys screamed their opinions at the top of their lungs, and the loudest would have their say on a spartan issue for the day. :hist101:
Oh, you were there to document that, huh?

Tarzan
September 14th, 2007, 12:51 PM
Some of CMT's BSP's are taken from other maps. For example, Snow Grove was really Grove_Final before they took it. I have no idea who modeled Grove_Final - it might be a CMT member. But from what I've heard, Tensity is their only original BSP. I might be wrong about that tho. Any CMT member want to clear that up?

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 01:05 PM
I don't know where that UMT ripping thing came from. If anyone has any evidence of this, let me know so we can deal with it.

SnaFuBAR
September 14th, 2007, 01:07 PM
just go look in any of their :awesome: topics /sarcasm

Teh Ganon
September 14th, 2007, 03:08 PM
I'll be honest with you people, jay and deep are no longer in umt. However they are in a mapping team now called sigma l33t. Feel free to give them hell. as for fatso, i'm a bit disappointed. stop with the spamming.

Tweek
September 14th, 2007, 03:21 PM
from failure to failure.

Killerelf
September 14th, 2007, 03:36 PM
To get back on topic...

How do I make like a thumbnail of a pic that brings up the link?


Some of CMT's BSP's are taken from other maps. For example, Snow Grove was really Grove_Final before they took it. I have no idea who modeled Grove_Final - it might be a CMT member. But from what I've heard, Tensity is their only original BSP. I might be wrong about that tho. Any CMT member want to clear that up?

I'm pretty sure Arteen made Grove Final...

Pooky
September 14th, 2007, 03:43 PM
Arteen made almost if not all the CMT maps released recently...

Tensity is just a remake of another Arteen map, Tension. (http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=1076)

Mass
September 14th, 2007, 04:51 PM
You see, this is the crap that made me leave. chill out, its not like he's ripping on your mother, or race, or any of those other things that it's just to be pissed about.
And Aggy is right, too much know-it-all.....everywhere.

Tarzan
September 14th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Ah - I suppose I stand corrected.... assuming Arteen is CMT...

Masterz1337
September 14th, 2007, 05:48 PM
Just because of the sense argueing here I ma locking down CMT forums until next friday, rather than wednesday. Congradulations guys.

fatso784
September 14th, 2007, 06:06 PM
How do I make like a thumbnail of a pic that brings up the link?

You wrap a URL around an IMG, like so:
[URL.=(put url here)](put image url here)[/URL.]

Just dont put the periods in.

teh lag
September 14th, 2007, 06:07 PM
You wrap a URL around an IMG, like so:
(put image url here) ((type url here))

Or [shot], if the image is fairly large (over 800x600). [wshot] is better for wide images - it preserves the aspect ratio to some extent.

Timo
September 14th, 2007, 06:16 PM
How do I make like a thumbnail of a pic that brings up the link?


For a thumbnail use [thumb] tags like this: http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender9.jpg
Will produce this: http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender9.jpg

Or if you're wanting a larger thumbnail use [shot] or [wshot] tags like teh lag said.

Killerelf
September 14th, 2007, 07:54 PM
tyvm guys. Now as for back on topic...

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x192/killerelf12/shinypick.jpg

Is that screwed up? Because it is on my comp... Maybe something to do with it saying HTML is disabled at the bottom of the page.


Ohh yea, its a guitar pick. Its a model!

Bastinka
September 14th, 2007, 10:59 PM
This BSP is a work in progress of mine, it was oringinally going to be a UMT map but following my "resignation" I don't know where it's future lies.
So what the hell. BTW I will smooth it, so you don't have to mention that.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender9.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender10.jpg
There is much more to it but I have yet to make some updated renders.
Oh my god. You need to cut down on the bevels/insets/extrude if thats what I am seeing. If it is then.. well it doesn't make the map look any better. Doesn't really make it look more detailed or more forerunner styled.. just plain annoying.

Mass
September 14th, 2007, 11:06 PM
Back to the topic at hand, though... Loving the design, Massacre, hope to see more of it soon :)

can do.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender12.jpg

hehe shmooth da whooth or something, idk.
Anyway, as you see, I made some teleporter bases, the building from the last render is the thing on the right as you can see, it occupies the center.

EDIT:

Oh my god. You need to cut down on the bevels/insets/extrude if thats what I am seeing. If it is then.. well it doesn't make the map look any better. Doesn't really make it look more detailed or more forerunner styled.. just plain annoying.
yeah, I don't know how to explain this but those are like place holder details, to break it up until the real details and textures come in. don't worry your pretty little head about it.

Bastinka
September 14th, 2007, 11:12 PM
:words: don't worry your pretty little head about it.
:-3
Alright.

Jay2645
September 15th, 2007, 06:14 AM
I'll be honest with you people, jay and deep are no longer in umt. However they are in a mapping team now called sigma l33t. Feel free to give them hell. as for fatso, i'm a bit disappointed. stop with the spamming.
*Clears Throat*
The only UMT thing I EVER posted on anywhere besides the UMT forums that was ripped in any way was the UMT ATV, and I gave full credit to KiLLa for it (And I STILL got ripped to shreds).
Deep did rip from Halo 2, and I'm not to get involved with that, but I NEVER rip anything that is related to mapping teams without:
A. Never having it become public and sitting on my Hard Drive for all eternity.
B. Giving full credit where it is due.

Ganon, why have you suddenly turned against me? One day you're one of my best buddies, the next you're unleashing H2V's wrath on me and telling me to go to hell.
At least get your facts straight before wrongfully accusing someone.

P.S. Also, just for the record, the A-Wing was NOT a UMT thing, so that doesn't count for the whole ripping thing.

PenGuin1362
September 15th, 2007, 09:04 AM
*Clears throat*
IMA GUNNA RPG ALL YOU FUCKING INFIDELS!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/RPG-7.jpg

ok i win. new argument.

DaneO'Roo
September 15th, 2007, 09:18 AM
and I get to skin that :3

Mass
September 15th, 2007, 09:25 AM
yay tele bases ^_^
is that a ladder to that ledge ontop I see?
why yes it is

TeeKup
September 15th, 2007, 09:46 AM
I don't care what anyone else says, Massacre I love the whole damn thing. Can't wait till thats finalized.

DaneO'Roo
September 15th, 2007, 11:28 AM
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7913/chokebasekj6.jpg
.

Archon23
September 15th, 2007, 11:34 AM
Looks nice but ....whatever happened to that other map anyway?

LlamaMaster
September 15th, 2007, 11:34 AM
Looks fugly right now, but I know you will fix that. :) (might just be the lighting)

DaneO'Roo
September 15th, 2007, 12:10 PM
The lighting and the fact that there are no detail maps...

Besides, as I've said like 3 times allready, it's just a simple test map to learn the HEK. No way am I using the fucking tutorial map, and no way am I making a huge complex pos to start off with.

Mass
September 15th, 2007, 12:27 PM
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender13.jpg
interior space. more later.

Tarzan
September 15th, 2007, 03:27 PM
interior space of WHAT exactly?? The same BSP as those other pics? And where would you hide something like that in there....

legionaire45
September 15th, 2007, 04:01 PM
interior space of WHAT exactly?? The same BSP as those other pics? And where would you hide something like that in there....
Inside that big fucking building of his maybe =3.

fatso784
September 15th, 2007, 05:11 PM
Looks good but I can't really see much from that pic. The ginormous columns are blocking my view.

Botolf
September 15th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Sort of reminds me of the interior of Truth and Reconciliation, nice :)

Kiwibird
September 15th, 2007, 05:52 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/SkinnedST.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/SBSkinned.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/uplaod.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/image6.jpg

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/In-Game.jpg

Full Scale V
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/SDG.jpg

Kiwibird
September 15th, 2007, 07:35 PM
Hahaha, I remember you from Halomods. That fire extinguisher was lulz :p

I liked making silly things that no one else would. :downs:

demonmaster3k
September 15th, 2007, 08:16 PM
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o97/nate-the-great_photos/newrender13.jpg
interior space. more later.
kinda looks a little like the outside balcony on gassgiant (aka arbiter from halo 2)
also, closely related to epitaph's interior, just add a bunch of holograms and a couple grav lifts
also, nice clonetrooper
too bad for me, suria's at a stand still (haven't got the time college keeps getting in the way)

nice work on those WIPs it's good to see some fresh creativity separating life from the dull box levels with ripped content

Teh Ganon
September 15th, 2007, 08:23 PM
kinda looks a little like the outside balcony on gassgiant (aka arbiter from halo 2)

looks like a part from the map fissure falls

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/SBSkinned.jpg

thats awesome!

Pooky
September 15th, 2007, 08:53 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/SkinnedST.jpg



I would love you forever if this thing got ingame working the same way it did in jk2

Kiwibird
September 15th, 2007, 09:36 PM
I would love you forever if this thing got ingame working the same way it did in jk2

I tried. It was going to be my first gun I ever got into Halo before. I made it in Blender and I did not know the rules of Halo at the time. When I brought it into 3DS Max to animate and skin, it had way too many polies and errors. If I were to remodel it now, I would be able to get it in game. I might do that. I even have laser tags made, WITH sound effects.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/BlasterIG2.png

See? (Sorry for small picture)

Bastinka
September 15th, 2007, 09:44 PM
It looks pretty low poly, but then again..

PenGuin1362
September 15th, 2007, 10:13 PM
KIWI! the good ol days :(

Kiwibird
September 15th, 2007, 11:26 PM
KIWI! the good ol days :(

Hey there Penguin! Ah yes, those days were fun. But guess what! I'm currently working on something new for CE, so the ol days might come back!

PenGuin1362
September 15th, 2007, 11:48 PM
woo! i'm too busy to play around with ce anymore :( maybe one of these days.

Kiwibird
September 16th, 2007, 12:42 AM
woo! i'm too busy to play around with ce anymore :( maybe one of these days.

Then who's going to test with me!?

legionaire45
September 16th, 2007, 03:34 AM
http://img2.putfile.com/thumb/9/25804322656.jpg (http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6617884)
Meh, I just finished UVW'ing it, it's my first time so it isn't very good =(. Also working on texturing it, which I'm also not very good at =(. I haven't put all that much time in to it yet, I'm not going to post any more images of it until it's done and not quite as shitty D=.

PenGuin1362
September 16th, 2007, 09:43 AM
Then who's going to test with me!?

no one said anything about not being able to test :) i just can't make my ridiculously retarded crap anymore :( like my halo 2 cars :p

Tweek
September 16th, 2007, 10:14 AM
http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07370/bridgepic1.jpg
http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07370/bridgepic2.jpg
http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07370/bridgepic3.jpg

wtf?

iunno :v

Killerelf
September 16th, 2007, 10:20 AM
Very nice....

DaneO'Roo
September 16th, 2007, 10:28 AM
fuck yeah :awesome:

Teh Ganon
September 16th, 2007, 10:30 AM
wow nice bridge?

Love De Lux
September 16th, 2007, 10:32 AM
Oh, please, dear Tweek, tell me this will end up by a map. :(

Lonking awesome.

Tweek
September 16th, 2007, 10:45 AM
Oh, please, dear Tweek, tell me this will end up by a map. :(

Lonking awesome.

yes


also, Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia

Patrickssj6
September 16th, 2007, 11:40 AM
Full Scale V
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/SDG.jpg
I remember you from somewhere...:)

And Tweek :awesome:

PenGuin1362
September 16th, 2007, 11:41 AM
sucks. :)



:awesome:

Tweek
September 16th, 2007, 12:36 PM
it shall be pro when it's textured, because textured stuff = win.

FRain
September 16th, 2007, 12:45 PM
*Clears throat*
IMA GUNNA RPG ALL YOU FUCKING INFIDELS!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/RPG-7.jpg

ok i win. new argument.



We have a term for this.

Epic Win.

SnaFuBAR
September 16th, 2007, 01:12 PM
woop woop welcome to modern combat.

Mass
September 16th, 2007, 01:31 PM
looks win tweek.
Narrows-ish.

ExAm
September 16th, 2007, 01:42 PM
*Clears throat*
IMA GUNNA RPG ALL YOU FUCKING INFIDELS!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/RPG-7.jpg

ok i win. new argument.Awesome. Now reopen the Modern Combat forum and give us some goodies dammit!

Botolf
September 16th, 2007, 01:57 PM
Looks like you're aiming to make a Narrows port, Tweek :awesome:

Rob Oplawar
September 16th, 2007, 02:15 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a269/DarthKiwibird/SBSkinned.jpg

Needs to be skinned, tbh


http://xs119.xs.to/xs119/07370/bridgepic1.jpg



... i love you.

Edit: aug! "You must spread some reputation around before giving it to Tweek again"

Bad Waffle
September 16th, 2007, 02:19 PM
good use of the bend modifier, NOOB

;)

get dano to slap some skinz on that when you're done.

PenGuin1362
September 16th, 2007, 02:23 PM
Awesome. Now reopen the Modern Combat forum and give us some goodies dammit!


you'll get some in october

Bad Waffle
September 16th, 2007, 02:29 PM
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2593/highres1ut8.jpg



http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2331/highres2zs1.jpg



http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/775/highres3rr6.jpg


:o

about 80% done, gotta do the scope, trig and the mag.

fatso784
September 16th, 2007, 02:35 PM
:awesome:

But I'm concerned about poly count, especially with the grip.

Mass
September 16th, 2007, 02:47 PM
:awesome:

But I'm concerned about poly count, especially with the grip.
rofl

SnaFuBAR
September 16th, 2007, 02:58 PM
:awesome:

But I'm concerned about poly count, especially with the grip.
:lmao: i don't know if i should -rep or +rep you for that one!

Bad Waffle
September 16th, 2007, 03:08 PM
:awesome:

But I'm concerned about poly count, especially with the grip.

seriously, get off the internet.

DaneO'Roo
September 16th, 2007, 05:12 PM
:awesome:

But I'm concerned about poly count, especially with the grip.

Lmfao

WOL I'm concerned, your gun is green and red for sum raison please dont make it green and red its like christmas gun LOL!!! Why dont you put some textures on it and make it cool and then put it ingame with pelicans and tanks an we can make the bestest map in CE evar adn wel call it Hotsnap cause its like coldsnap wich is cool and hte best map ever.

WHoooooooooooooooooo!!!

fatso784
September 16th, 2007, 05:24 PM
D4NO just had a great idea everyone! Time for Hotsnap, a Coldsnap variant that takes place in a desert on Christmas! And everyone could be a Santa biped, and we could make a sleigh vehicle, and you can shoot Santa right outta the sky! Oh and the oddball'l be a giant cookie! Yeah Christmas in July! :highfive:

SnaFuBAR
September 16th, 2007, 06:51 PM
no, everyone is making fun of YOU. you don't get to make jokes with us :rolleyes:

PenGuin1362
September 16th, 2007, 08:14 PM
no, everyone is making fun of YOU. you don't get to make jokes with us :rolleyes:


you all hear that?...bitch got served

looks like shit WOL besides what's with the poly count! zomg it concerns me! learn to not concern me you jew!

Bad Waffle
September 16th, 2007, 08:21 PM
tri count: 111684

Tarzan
September 16th, 2007, 08:41 PM
correct me if I'm wrong.... but isn't that a little on the icky side for a weapon? I have BSP's that aren't that many triangles...

Dole
September 16th, 2007, 09:02 PM
Evo stopped being a H2V mod like forever (not Stealth's interpretation) ago. It stopped being a CE mod like... infinity forever ago.

WOL, you've made the most gorgeous standard issue weapon never made. And now to cut right to what matters: what's the deal with the bolt catch?

LlamaMaster
September 16th, 2007, 09:03 PM
I think he might be jokeing, if not thats pathetic.

Edit: @ poly count

Bad Waffle
September 16th, 2007, 10:09 PM
im not sure about what you mean about the bolt catch. Explain more so i can fix D:

ExAm
September 16th, 2007, 10:41 PM
It's all round and stuff. Doesn't look like it can hold anything in place. Maybe i'm looking in the wrong place...

Leiukemia
September 17th, 2007, 01:53 AM
Bored and fucking around with photoshop/max.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/mountainscene.jpg

SnaFuBAR
September 17th, 2007, 03:50 AM
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9601/sightshandless2.jpg

Tweek
September 17th, 2007, 07:32 AM
good use of the bend modifier, NOOB


so? :v

Bad Waffle
September 17th, 2007, 08:03 AM
it was sarcasm, i actually meant that you put the bend modifier to a good use

:v

Bad Waffle
September 17th, 2007, 08:19 AM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4066/highres1di2.jpg



http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2591/highres2zu9.jpg



http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9794/highres3dz6.jpg


!!UPDATE!!

80% done, gotta do some touching up, gotta do the clip, and add a vew other minor details

FRain
September 17th, 2007, 09:15 AM
D4NO just had a great idea everyone! Time for Hotsnap, a Coldsnap variant that takes place in a desert on Christmas! And everyone could be a Santa biped, and we could make a sleigh vehicle, and you can shoot Santa right outta the sky! Oh and the oddball'l be a giant cookie! Yeah Christmas in July! :highfive:

OH THE HUMANITY!

Tarzan
September 17th, 2007, 11:18 AM
That's not the worst one... This came up on Halomaps: that church map converted to a SP where MC marries cortana, and the covenant burst in on the wedding, and you have to fight your way out with the now-dead-best-man-sergeant-johnson's ceremonial magnum...

Granted it was my idea making fun of some noob who wanted to make AI in hogs that obeyed traffic signals and you could own a shop in some utopia halo city....

Bad Waffle
September 17th, 2007, 12:54 PM
hey, the noobiness in this topic has to stop NOW. Its for posting wips and stuff, not for talking about nubs D:

LlamaMaster
September 17th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Whats the poly count on that thing? Some parts look high and others low.

SnaFuBAR
September 17th, 2007, 03:07 PM
that's how it should be.

Dole
September 17th, 2007, 03:47 PM
80&#37; done, gotta do some touching up, gotta do the clip, and add a vew other minor details
Holy moley, I completely didn't realize I hadn't seen a magazine. :o

Also, what ExAm said about the bolt catch was what I was referring to.

OmegaDragon
September 17th, 2007, 04:27 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4066/highres1di2.jpg



http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2591/highres2zu9.jpg



http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9794/highres3dz6.jpg


!!UPDATE!!

80% done, gotta do some touching up, gotta do the clip, and add a vew other minor details

I don't know what it is, but something in those renders look funky to me. Great job though :D

Leiukemia
September 17th, 2007, 06:22 PM
It's probably cause of all the crazy shadows going everywhere, at least that's what it looks like. Try only having shadows on one of your light WOL. Also, looks amazingly hot. Only thing is, why are some parts really high poly and others not?

TeeKup
September 17th, 2007, 06:58 PM
Jesus Christ, that gun is amazing. How did you do that bump effect on the grip?

Bad Waffle
September 17th, 2007, 07:31 PM
It's probably cause of all the crazy shadows going everywhere, at least that's what it looks like. Try only having shadows on one of your light WOL. Also, looks amazingly hot. Only thing is, why are some parts really high poly and others not?

I have 3 color lights all casting shadow, and a spotlight thats blasting pure white. In previous renders they looked odd because the shadows cast were standard Shadow and not mental ray .


Jesus Christ, that gun is amazing. How did you do that bump effect on the grip?

I made a highres mesh of a sphere cut in half and flattened that i Arrayed, laid a plane under it, rendered to texture at 512 to get a normal map with bumps, and then i box uved the grip/buttstock and applied the bump.


ZOMG CHRISTMAS GUNZ LOLOLOLOL

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3703/highres2lv3.jpg

yeah, i was messing around with some material properties




http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9612/highres1jb7.jpg

Use that sucker as your BG!



Rep me now, guise

ICEE
September 17th, 2007, 07:42 PM
rep? id HUG you if i knew where you lived. but i need to spread some rep around first...

Funions
September 17th, 2007, 08:23 PM
Looks fantastic, but where does the mag go?

ExAm
September 17th, 2007, 08:47 PM
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/4066/highres1di2.jpg



http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2591/highres2zu9.jpg



http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9794/highres3dz6.jpg


!!UPDATE!!

80% done, gotta do some touching up, gotta do the clip, and add a vew other minor detailsThat looks nothing like a picatinny rail. Nowhere for the clamps to clamp onto. Needs redoing.

Bad Waffle
September 17th, 2007, 08:52 PM
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6262/highres3sf8.png


http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/7960/highres1yc5.jpg




http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2347/highres3lr0.jpg


almost done here. just gotta fix up odd edges, then ima start unwrapping the lowres cage. When im done with that ill start tweaking with things if they arent looking right. I'm going to unwrap these things separately for their own bitmaps, for a special reason:
barrel
scope
stock

Funions
September 17th, 2007, 08:53 PM
Ah, very interesting concept! Did you design this?

Jay2645
September 17th, 2007, 08:55 PM
THE POLY COUNT! IT BUUUUURNS!!
146,637 polys?

Bad Waffle
September 17th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Yessir, this weapon is 90% my own design. The first draft (four versions ago) looked like this
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/waveoflag/hunterrifle1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/waveoflag/hunterrifle2.jpg

and was modeled from a concept done by Scooby.

PlasbianX
September 17th, 2007, 09:39 PM
THE POLYCOUNT IS OVER
9000!!!!

ExAm
September 18th, 2007, 12:56 AM
Please! Fix the rail! I'M BEGGING YOU!

Bad Waffle
September 18th, 2007, 01:17 AM
Please! Fix the rail! I'M BEGGING YOU!

theres nothing wrong with the rail. If you're talking about the missing polies on the bottom, remember that this isnt a viewmodel but a highres mesh. i just deleted it because i knew i wasnt going to add detail there.

Also, im probably gonna delete it on the lowres FP as well, because there will be no chances whatsoever that you'll be able to see those polies in FP.

ExAm
September 18th, 2007, 01:32 AM
Ah, missing polies. That explains the look of it from the top down.

legionaire45
September 18th, 2007, 01:38 AM
theres nothing wrong with the rail. If you're talking about the missing polies on the bottom, remember that this isnt a viewmodel but a highres mesh. i just deleted it because i knew i wasnt going to add detail there.

Also, im probably gonna delete it on the lowres FP as well, because there will be no chances whatsoever that you'll be able to see those polies in FP.
I think he means that your rail is completely wrong. In fact, that rail there isn't going to do too good of a job of holding your stuff on :x.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/M1913A_Rail_CrossSection.gif

Leiukemia
September 18th, 2007, 01:54 AM
Gaying around, obviously not up to spec with any real rims or anything. First two I made up, though are probably similiar to some other rims out there, last one I sort of used a referance from ones I've seen like it. Even though this stuff is pretty simple, it's damned fun to do.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/wheels.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/rims.jpg

DaneO'Roo
September 18th, 2007, 02:53 AM
^ nice



also WOL, that is awesome you are awesome :D

SnaFuBAR
September 18th, 2007, 04:13 AM
That looks nothing like a picatinny rail. Nowhere for the clamps to clamp onto. Needs redoing.

because i'm sure hundreds of years from now a picatinny rail is going to be the way to go :downs: i'm sure we'll never think of another way to mount attachments because picatinny is the definative end all solution! magnetic attachment rail mb?

Tweek
September 18th, 2007, 04:17 AM
http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6262/highres3sf8.png

OH dude, didn't anyone ever tell you to work with quads when building a high res cage? >_< GAH!

SnaFuBAR
September 18th, 2007, 04:21 AM
and won't affect the bullet?
think before you post.

SnaFuBAR
September 18th, 2007, 04:33 AM
uh... no?

DaneO'Roo
September 18th, 2007, 09:07 AM
Some more work on my Learner map.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/7015/chokerender1pu2.jpg

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3741/chokerender2gu3.jpg

Massacre modeled me the middle interior section, which has pretty much helped me realize how in fact you do interiors properly now. Thanks buddeh :D

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3268/chokerender3fd5.jpg

It's still renders so It's only base maps no detail maps yet. Once I get it all done, rather than using that suck tutorial map to learn with imma learn with this one, considering it's very basic and won't require many shaders and such, but not so basic that it fails. I still want people to play it, though maps rarely ever get played these days unless they have nukes or CMT weapons in them.

ExAm
September 18th, 2007, 09:15 AM
I think he means that your rail is completely wrong. In fact, that rail there isn't going to do too good of a job of holding your stuff on :x.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/66/M1913A_Rail_CrossSection.gifThe angle on the shot is bad. He doesn't have that lower part in yet. Notice the blank space under them in some of the underside shots.

fatso784
September 18th, 2007, 01:42 PM
D4NO, is this map going to have lots of tunnels or is it mostly outdoor?

Scooby Doo
September 18th, 2007, 02:24 PM
I made a highres mesh of a sphere cut in half and flattened that i Arrayed, laid a plane under it, rendered to texture at 512 to get a normal map with bumps, and then i box uved the grip/buttstock and applied the bump.


O.o i wonder who first taught you the basics for that??? :]

btw, looks quite amazing. you sure have come a LONG way from my original design. GEEZ!! i love it though. the scope is very cool, as well as the barrel. great work so far.


~Scooby

Bad Waffle
September 18th, 2007, 05:45 PM
O.o i wonder who first taught you the basics for that??? :]

btw, looks quite amazing. you sure have come a LONG way from my original design. GEEZ!! i love it though. the scope is very cool, as well as the barrel. great work so far.


~Scooby

o y tenk u :d


http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/6262/highres3sf8.png

OH dude, didn't anyone ever tell you to work with quads when building a high res cage? >_< GAH!

yeah, but i just meshsmoothed it afterwards because im lazy. Shoulda used nurbs :D

Every area where there's still triangles are places where there's just no detail anyways, so i didnt even bother cleaning up the mesh. Its served its purpose.

PenGuin1362
September 18th, 2007, 05:50 PM
the rail is fine. if you look at it it's built the way it should be.

Mass
September 18th, 2007, 09:38 PM
HAI!

Dane gets all the credit and I get none D:
w/e not his fault.

Also, WoL, That is an utter beast.

ExAm
September 18th, 2007, 11:54 PM
Bullets aren't ferrous.

Also, looking good, Dane - we should brainstorm some ideas for our own custom weapons, maybe :pAnd neither are casings :P

Bad Waffle
September 19th, 2007, 08:31 PM
YOINK! update time. I took some time today and finished unwrapping the main gun. I was then able to bake the normals to the gun, and even though there are still errors on the normal map, its looking damn good.

http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/3970/render2kt8.jpg
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2374/render1jt0.jpg

After i finish cleaning up some of the more time consuming things to fix in PS by messing with the low res cage a bit, im going to render the normal map at 4096x4096. It comes without AA, so when i scale it down it should also blend some of the edges a bit. For everything else, i can fix it up in PS.

Dano, ready to skin this puppy?

DaneO'Roo
September 19th, 2007, 08:41 PM
Yes sir :D

ExAm
September 19th, 2007, 11:24 PM
The location of the magazine makes it look like it'd have a really low capacity, with the caliber it appears to be, and fire through a submachine-gun like length of barrel, the stock looks like it would collapse right into the firing mechanism, and the rail still doesn't look like it can hold shit. Also, not entirely fond of the pattern on the barrel. Am I the only one who doesn't really like this thing? :(

Bad Waffle
September 20th, 2007, 12:15 AM
The location of the magazine makes it look like it'd have a really low capacity, with the caliber it appears to be, and fire through a submachine-gun like length of barrel, the stock looks like it would collapse right into the firing mechanism, and the rail still doesn't look like it can hold shit. Also, not entirely fond of the pattern on the barrel. Am I the only one who doesn't really like this thing? :(

lol silly nub. The bullets do not go straight up, they go back, loop around INTO the firing mechanism, and then are chambered and fired, with cartridges being expelled from the side. The stock does not fully collapse into the weapon as that would be silly, but can be adjusted for different users, or if you're rambo, easier one handed use.

Do you really doubt the power of magnets? my dad has some twist knob magnets that are holding 200 lbs of overstacked wood against a wall. He trusts those magnets so much that he parks his acura TL in front of it.

And im glad you're not fond of the 'pattern' on the barrel, it shows im doing my job at creating something original.

Leiukemia
September 20th, 2007, 12:23 AM
I demand an internal animation of how the rounds looping back works!

Dole
September 20th, 2007, 12:27 AM
The bullets do not go straight up, they go back, loop around INTO the firing mechanism, and then are chambered and fired, with cartridges being expelled from the side.
As in P90 style?

ExAm
September 20th, 2007, 12:59 AM
lol silly nub. The bullets do not go straight up, they go back, loop around INTO the firing mechanism, and then are chambered and fired, with cartridges being expelled from the side. The stock does not fully collapse into the weapon as that would be silly, but can be adjusted for different users, or if you're rambo, easier one handed use.

Do you really doubt the power of magnets? my dad has some twist knob magnets that are holding 200 lbs of overstacked wood against a wall. He trusts those magnets so much that he parks his acura TL in front of it.

And im glad you're not fond of the 'pattern' on the barrel, it shows im doing my job at creating something original.
Wow, hostile much? Magnets, okay. They'd better be neodymium, because neodymium is awesome. The cartridge feed system sounds a bit farfetched, but hey, look at the P-90 or the SMG from Halo 2! The adjustable bit of the length of the stock still appears as if it would go straight into the firing mechanism if shortened to the end of the ticks on the side. Also, my comment about the barrel is my own aesthetic opinion. Doesn't matter if it's original or not, I don't have to like it.

DaneO'Roo
September 20th, 2007, 03:57 AM
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3474/stripsangularrenderedpk6.jpg

Diffuse, Bump and Spec

sup Halo 3-ish :D

DaneO'Roo
September 20th, 2007, 07:59 AM
Well, personally all the forerunner stuff is the same sort of style, it all uses the same kinds of lines and same angles into each other, but I think the style evolves as the civilization grows. Just like we have Egyptian and all that, they had different styles of that stuff. Realistically, it's not all forerunner style. Forerunners are just the race that we call them. Back in those days in the halo story line, that style would have had a specific name, to the forerunners, maybe different clans or time periods. Who knows. The halo 3 stuff looks like a more recent forerunner style.

Rob Oplawar
September 20th, 2007, 11:21 AM
@Exam: I'm glad to hear someone going against the bandwagon. I personally like the gun, but I do agree with you that some parts of it seem silly, but come on, it's realistic enough that it could work, and the point by now is to make it look really, really cool. But I guess you can't win them all.

@Dane: Dude, that inspires me to continue working on my forerunner map. With your textures on it, it could be friggin amazing.

Tweek
September 20th, 2007, 12:03 PM
too bad dano's already got a job.

LinkandKvel
September 20th, 2007, 02:50 PM
This is just me experimenting with rendering.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7777/uzihighresim0.jpg

DaneO'Roo
September 20th, 2007, 06:04 PM
I swear, I need 8 fucking arms and 4 computers. Then I could do all the work I'm supposed to be doing for everyone at the same time :X

Link, that is awesome :D

fatso784
September 20th, 2007, 06:50 PM
Yeah I don't know how you do it. With all that work, I'm beginning to think this is your job. As in work-and-get-paid-a-little-more-than-an-illegal-immigrant work.

How do you find time to do this stuff? I can't even find time to model a map anymore...

SnaFuBAR
September 20th, 2007, 07:26 PM
been at it some more
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6307/pkmgsr5.jpg

Leiukemia
September 20th, 2007, 08:44 PM
Ya'll is bitches.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/colt1911-5.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/colt1911-4.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov20.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov21.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov22.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov23.jpg

Con
September 20th, 2007, 08:45 PM
all you guys ever model is guns :awesome:

Bad Waffle
September 20th, 2007, 09:54 PM
Wow, hostile much? Magnets, okay. They'd better be neodymium, because neodymium is awesome. The cartridge feed system sounds a bit farfetched, but hey, look at the P-90 or the SMG from Halo 2! The adjustable bit of the length of the stock still appears as if it would go straight into the firing mechanism if shortened to the end of the ticks on the side. Also, my comment about the barrel is my own aesthetic opinion. Doesn't matter if it's original or not, I don't have to like it.

Foo, i love you man...dont take it that way...herre come here and give me a hug. Thats right...all better now!


This is just me experimenting with rendering.

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7777/uzihighresim0.jpg
Good render.



been at it some more
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/6307/pkmgsr5.jpg
The detail like those pins and the lines on the magazine the receiver shield thing and can be done with a normal map quite easily :o

Ya'll is bitches.
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/colt1911-5.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/colt1911-4.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov20.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov21.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov22.jpg
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/Duncgs/dragunov23.jpg

Damn, you model quickly. Also, some details like the cylinders (screws) on the barrel, things that dont pop out that far, can be done in a normal map. But hey, if you've got the tris, use em!

Pooky
September 20th, 2007, 10:47 PM
all you guys ever model is guns :awesome:

I agree with this post :(

Leiukemia
September 20th, 2007, 10:53 PM
That's what's necessary for us to model right now, we have a list of things that need to get done whether you guys like guns or not, lol.

ExAm
September 20th, 2007, 10:57 PM
It's just a fluted barrel, they're not that uncommon on precision weapons...
Looks kinda oppositely fluted to me, kind of a pillowy look.

Pooky
September 20th, 2007, 10:58 PM
That's what's necessary for us to model right now, we have a list of things that need to get done whether you guys like guns or not, lol.

Meh. I've just seen so many damn gun models, especially on these boards, that they're not exciting at all anymore. I'm only interested when some kid posts a horribly bad one and acts like hot shit, cause it's funny.

Bad Waffle
September 21st, 2007, 12:23 AM
Finished UVing the scope, now im just going to tweek the uv's a bit and then render a better normal map tomorrow or something.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7606/lowres3pp1.jpg
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3069/lowres2js6.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8968/lowres1fl8.jpg

Rob Oplawar
September 21st, 2007, 12:32 AM
I have to say, while it still has a lot of errors that need to be fixed, I fucking LOVE the way it looks in FP. It looks absolutely amazing from that angle, and it isn't even skinned yet! Bravo, keep up the good work!

Kalub
September 21st, 2007, 12:54 AM
it is sex and really really want

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/551/117685733699ft8.jpg

ExAm
September 21st, 2007, 02:11 AM
Finished UVing the scope, now im just going to tweek the uv's a bit and then render a better normal map tomorrow or something.

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3069/lowres2js6.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8968/lowres1fl8.jpgYes, you're still awesome. Yes, the gun is cool. I like the design, but a few parts just bug me.

DaneO'Roo
September 21st, 2007, 02:41 AM
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1800/oshibrutesqt7.jpg

/cmtupdated

Only just started the amour bitmaps, that biped has 3 different amour bitmaps that make it up so it's only partly finished. Anything white/dark gray isn't finished and some parts are only just bump maps at this point..

SnaFuBAR
September 21st, 2007, 03:45 AM
wave, although the models may look super complex, they only fall in the 6k triangle range for long guns and 2k for handguns. no big deal. i'm sure that later on, we can map details on (especially on magazines) but that's besides the point.

Bad Waffle
September 21st, 2007, 08:58 AM
wave, although the models may look super complex, they only fall in the 6k triangle range for long guns and 2k for handguns. no big deal. i'm sure that later on, we can map details on (especially on magazines) but that's besides the point.

Thats not what i meant specifically, because i did say if you had the tris use em, but i've just been on a normal mapping FRENZY. lol.

OmegaDragon
September 21st, 2007, 09:04 AM
That brute looks a bit too short >_>

DaneO'Roo
September 21st, 2007, 09:58 AM
In comparison to what?

You have no sense of scale because there is nothing in the scene to refer to. Brutes aren't short and fat, but they're not tall and thin. They're tall and bulky. If you seen MC in the scene you'd see.

also

http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5756/oshibrutes2zj1.jpg

Just bumps atm.

fatso784
September 21st, 2007, 02:21 PM
Those 2 pics look much better than your last update. Looks like your updated the body texture, though I could be mistaken.

Con
September 21st, 2007, 06:14 PM
Looks great Dane :)

Pooky
September 21st, 2007, 07:04 PM
Those brutes are going to be scary D:

DaaxGhost
September 21st, 2007, 11:46 PM
awesome brutes dano. the bumps look really good.

Rob Oplawar
September 22nd, 2007, 02:23 AM
The models aren't all that great, but I'm not one to talk, cause I can't model bipeds to save my life. But yah, dang, the skin looks like it's comin along pretty well. That, plus the animations, could take that model from meh to :awesome:. Who's gonna animate it? Also, you say bumps- is this for H2V then?

WaЯReN
September 22nd, 2007, 09:58 AM
^^lawl^^

Tweek
September 22nd, 2007, 11:45 AM
http://xs319.xs.to/xs319/07386/lafflecakies.jpg

cocks

Stormwing
September 22nd, 2007, 11:59 AM
oh wow.

LlamaMaster
September 22nd, 2007, 12:19 PM
Holy fucking shit.

Oh my fucking god.

Jesus tap dancing christ.

Wow, just wow.

Thats the best model I've ever seen for any game, EVER.

Please, teach me your ways.

Also, that model just made me feel like shit. :(

Edit: I can't +rep you! :( :( :(

Also, did you pull that entire concept from your brain? Did you just sketch down this masterpiece and model it? I'm so far from this imaginative it pathetic.

I'm going to go cut myself now.

Botolf
September 22nd, 2007, 12:23 PM
:awesome:


If that doesn't become a map, my little inner man will become severely depressed and die.

FireDragon04
September 22nd, 2007, 12:24 PM
Also, did you pull that entire concept from your brain? Did you just sketch down this masterpiece and model it? I'm so far from this imaginative it pathetic.

I'm going to go cut myself now.

It's tweeks remodel of 'Narrows' from Halo 3.

LlamaMaster
September 22nd, 2007, 12:26 PM
It's tweeks remodel of 'Narrows' from Halo 3.
Oh, I feel much better now. :)

Tweek
September 22nd, 2007, 12:47 PM
It's tweeks remodel of 'Narrows' from Halo 3.

uhhh not rly.
i just took the bent bridge idea from it, and the big thingys above it a bit.

that's where similarities end tbh.
it's like 3/4 times as large as narrows.

it's a must-have vehicle-map really. no shortcuts for people on foot, but seperate paths, with similar perils :o
(there's a warthog there for scale)

LlamaMaster
September 22nd, 2007, 12:52 PM
This is going to be your map you said you wanted to make?

Tweek
September 22nd, 2007, 12:53 PM
dunno

Mass
September 22nd, 2007, 02:07 PM
first off :awesome:

And even though its looking epic, I'm wondering about what the rest of the map will be, or even if there will be more? are the bases like *shudder* gephy's? or what? also, please put in some teleporters, all-vehicle maps aren't really too fun.

Tweek
September 22nd, 2007, 02:17 PM
you dont need vehicles, you can walk too. just takes a bit longer.

my point was, this map can't really go without vehicles, due to it's size.

i can guarante you it won't be everyone runnning to the warthogs when a game starts.
should propably start betatesting in not too long from now, since the model is nearly complete.

ill yell when that time comes though.

PenGuin1362
September 22nd, 2007, 02:41 PM
Soviet SKS Simonov & AK-47

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/PenGuin1362/SovietSKSSimonovKalashnikovAK-47.jpg