3rd Person animations...

[t3h m00kz]

Okay so I'm trying my hand at some 3rd Person animations (basically I'm sick of the spin-around headshot animation, makin my own), but I'm not 100% sure how to stick the new .JMA files into the already existing .Model_Animations tag. I have some HaloAnimationEditor by Kornman, but every time I try to use it, errors occur.

Suggestions?

[Love De Lux]

Okay so I'm trying my hand at some 3rd Person animations (basically I'm sick of the spin-around headshot animation, makin my own), but I'm not 100% sure how to stick the new .JMA files into the already existing .Model_Animations tag. I have some HaloAnimationEditor by Kornman, but every time I try to use it, errors occur.

Suggestions?

Try to use BlueStreak's animations importer.

It can export source animation data files for re-compilation with the HEK. ( Should be cleaner.)

Edit : Link : http://ghost.halomaps.org/bluestreak/animation/

[t3h m00kz]

Ooh, I missed that feature. I'll try it and let you know how it goes. Thanks bro.

E: Well, now I'm getting an error saying the nodes are wrong. I'm pretty damn sure they're not. fffffff Seems to be the IK solve > HI solve I added... I don't know how I'd animate this without an IK of some sort.

Any way to get this through exported properly?

[Roostervier]

You need to animate it with an actual biped I'm pretty sure.

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=1938

TheGhost released that, use it to animate.

Also, if you wanted, you could use this (http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=577) to add in specific animations.

[t3h m00kz]

Oh, I've got the biped.. I've imported the GBXmodel with the GBXModelImporter maxscript. Unless you're talking about a 3DS Max Biped bone structure. If that's the case, I'll give that biped a shot

As for that app, I've tried it, and it keeps giving me errors, don't know why. I've just extracted all of the .JM# animation files to recompile.

E: Just animated with the biped file you linked me too. Still getting that error: "not all animation were using the same node graph! import failed. ask jason to push you around in a wheelchair if you need it."

[Inferno]

Halo Animation Editor only lets you inject 1 animation at a time. If you try to do 2 or more it crashes.

[Hunter]

I think I will wait until I have access to the motion capture room at university before I do the 3rd person animations for my tag set Lol. Should be easier.

[Roostervier]

It's because you've got a different node list checksum. I forget what to actually do (in this case), but I think you actually open the JMA and change the checksum yourself. The (proper) checksum should be listed in both the default cyborg.gbxmodel and .model_animations.

[t3h m00kz]

Okay I'll look into it. In the mean time, this is the situation at the moment, if anyone sees anything fucked up with this let me know.

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/m00kz/wtfanimations.png

[Rentafence]

Overlays are .jmo's bre.

E: Are you exporting the animations with the IK shit in the scene? Try hiding them before you export.

[t3h m00kz]

I tried hiding them, same result. I even tried animating using TheGhost's Biped from Halomaps, no IKs or anything, and I got the same thing.

And those overlays extracted that way when I used the animation importer thingy, should I fix those, or will it not matter? I've tested it, the overlays are not causing the node error, my custom animation is.

I wish I could just attach the .max files here..

[Gwunty]

you need to link you biped to pelvis bro.

[Rentafence]

The only other idea I would have is to get rid of the actual biped model before you export. I think that the animations for the cyborg consist only of markers/nodes, so having the model would screw it up. Same with the IK stuff. Make sure the only shit in the scene on export is whatever is in the original animations.

[t3h m00kz]

I tried hiding the biped model as well.

Also this is the problem I'm having with Kornman's animation editor. Whenever I click "Load Animations" I get this:

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/m00kz/wtfhaloeidtorthing.gif


you need to link you biped to pelvis bro.

What do you mean exactly? The model itself or all the bones? If it's the latter, they are already, I just don't have them displayed in subtree in that previous picture. Here's their heirarchy
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/m00kz/heirarchy.png

[Roostervier]

He meant the model. At least, you have to if you were going to export a .gbxmodel anyway. Maybe the same applies here?

[t3h m00kz]

Don't think so, I've tried that as well.. same result.

Someone says it may be a few other overlays or something, I'll look into it

[t3h m00kz]

Sorry for the bump. I figured out what was wrong, it was the little number signature in the fifth or so line that I had to manually edit in Notepad++.

That's all well and good, my animation's working properly. However.

http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/m00kz/wtf.jpg
http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu279/m00kz/wtfbipedanimations.jpg

What the christ.

[Inferno]

He's sniffing his armpit...

Also that's because you fucked the looking overlay. I've had that same problem.

Use animation importer. I'll teach you on xfire. You did that wrong too.

[FRain]

Also, because you did not setup the looking screen bounds. Open up your "cyborg.model_animations" tag and then yours, go to the tab Units and set the screen bounds, which for the most part should read either:

0
0
1
1
0
0
1
1

OR

70
70
1
1
45
45
1
1

[t3h m00kz]

Got this shit workin. Legit.

I'll mess around more with biped animations in the future. The structure seems pretty complex compared to FP animations, but I'm sure I can get it down.