Halo Legends

[sevlag]

The bits where there was no characters on screen was fantastic, characters ruined it, apart from the grunt head stab and neck snap, those bits were cool.

But like I bitched about previously, it wouldnt follow Halo's "world rules" and follow Halo, and it fucking didnt.

Halo Legends ftl.
we should all be lucky it wasn't that terrible "odd one out" they used as the trailer, the one with the 1337 SPARTAN :\

[English Mobster]

I might give it a chance, but what I've seen so far, I wouldn't like it.
Cheesy anime cliches throughout.

Even my anime freak of a girlfriend had something to say:
Jemady says (3:33 PM):
dude...
im sorry but halo...no
English Mobster says (3:33 PM):
in anime form, i know.
it doesnt work.

[Warsaw]

Biggest complaint with the trailer other than the fact that making Halo an anime changes its atmosphere too much: Spartan's head is WAY too small.

[Needles]

I didn't really like it.
But the grunts made me lol.

[Good_Apollo]

Biggest complaint with the trailer other than the fact that making Halo an anime changes its atmosphere too much: Spartan's head is WAY too small.Clearly this represents a reason to throw it out the window as a decent addition to Halo.

You guys are so pathetic. I can probably bet that more than half you naysayers actually found what you saw to be meh (don't care or no interest) or good but just to keep up with your anime-bashing traditions decided to just sandbag it anyway. :golfclap:

[Inferno]

Or maybe its just mediocre. Halo does not translate to animation. TBQH if they made a movie INSIDE the halo 3 engine (ALA TF2's Meet the ________ Videos) It would be amazing.

But they won't.

And it won't.

[Warsaw]

Clearly this represents a reason to throw it out the window as a decent addition to Halo.

You guys are so pathetic. I can probably bet that more than half you naysayers actually found what you saw to be meh (don't care or no interest) or good but just to keep up with your anime-bashing traditions decided to just sandbag it anyway. :golfclap:

Fool, I am one of the anime supporters...or did you not read the whole thread? I read mangas and watch animes on a fairly regular basis...I know when something is sub-par when I see it. I was just saying that it didn't feel like Halo and that the Spartan's head was too small (which is ironic because in anime, heads are usually bigger than normal).

I'd neg you for idiocy, but I see that you've already disabled it...already red mb?

[p0lar_bear]

You guys are so pathetic. I can probably bet that more than half you naysayers actually found what you saw to be meh (don't care or no interest) or good but just to keep up with your anime-bashing traditions decided to just sandbag it anyway. :golfclap:

I expected Halo littered with anime idiosyncracies. I got Halo littered with anime idiosyncracies.

[neuro]

am i the only one who liked it?

come on, it's made for amusement, and it amused me. MISSION SUCCESFUL!

[t3h m00kz]

we should all be lucky it wasn't that terrible "odd one out" they used as the trailer, the one with the 1337 SPARTAN :\

Based on what I saw at the ODST launch event, I doubt Odd One Out is going to have a serious tone to it.

Everyone was laughing their asses off

And I'm looking forward to it.

[Llama Juice]

I couldn't stop laughing.

At it.

[TeeKup]

am i the only one who liked it?

come on, it's made for amusement, and it amused me. MISSION SUCCESFUL!

I enjoyed it. Particularly the environments.

[Alwin Roth]

I really like the environments, the Voicing could of been a bit better, sounds like the typical animes,
Animations are decent, im a bit happier that there's gore, that surely spices it up.

I wouldn't buy it however....... Arrr time to visit the bay again...


edit: oh fiddlesticks...

[Inferno]

^^
Admowned.

So is there a offset time between Japanese and American release. Like with everything else from japan.

[teh lag]

The first ep is out today.

I was unimpressed.

The plot was just uninteresting... I felt they were being dumb by making these shorts (as opposed to at least full episodes) and I was right. The English VAs didn't do as good of a job as you would hope, and though Waypoint claims that the Japanese version is also available I couldn't find it. I would have liked to get a subtitled version, to at least see what kind of effort was put behind the project (if they just skimped on the English localization or if it's lacking everywhere).

My biggest problem was with the Spartan dying. Ugh. I'm getting the feeling that the dudes who write for Halo don't really know what good character-drama is... between this, ODST, Halo Wars, and our good friends Miranda and Johnson in H3, my faith in the universe's storytelling for anything but lore continually shrinks.

Also, I couldn't tell if the buildings they saw were Forerunner, but if they were that's one hell of a break from canon. They looked more Indian or Japanese to me, but they were supposed to be "alien ruins" that weren't human or covie. Either way, they just looked out-of-place.

On the plus side: the fight with the Brute was cool and I liked that the Spartan's face/hair was completely white and barely looked human.

[Limited]

How'd you watch it? (Under the XBL waypoint?)

[teh lag]

They're on Halo Waypoint. (http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=28075)

[Higuy]

I found it to be OK. The animation seemed a bit bad in a few places, and the overall storyline was mediocre. The environments were good. I thought the characters and how they looked pulled away from halo though. The fight scene's were pretty cool however, but the pacing of the short was slow.
One of the most things that annoyed me was the spartan. Though she did a play a good part of how the spartan acts and looks, she died pretty easily for being a spartan. Also, her hair is way to long for fitting inside the helmet, which annoyed me and is something that always annoyed me in anime. The books say the women need to keep there hair short, I recall from the first book during training.

[Kornman00]

Wtf, did this mission predate motion sensors?

and I agree, those ruins were just out of place, even for Forerunner...but whose to say the Forerunner didn't have different cultures like us?

[Delta4907]

Overall, I thought it was pretty good. The only thing that bugged me was the fact that the supposedly "Forerunner" ruins looked more Japanese-Human than Forerunner.

[teh lag]

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=949500


Who said the architecture is Forerunner? hhmmm?

Welp.

I hope they're building to something with that then, I don't care much for floating bits of lore.

[Delta4907]

Could be Precursor architecture, but we don't really know anything about them so, it might, it might not be.

[Kornman00]

Could be Precursor architecture, but we don't really know anything about them so, it might, it might not be.
That would make those ruins super duper old (hell, even if they're Forerunner too). Would they really be in that kind of shape after hundreds of years of weathering and seismic activity? Maybe Earth wasn't the only place humans were seeded 100k years ago

(wasn't trying to debunk your idea, just throwing two cents out there)

[Ganon]

haro regends

LOL that was so bad, you can't honestly tell me there are script writers that horrid. The animation was bad for the mostpart (looked old as well) and a lot of things seemed inconsistent in size. The fact that the ruins are or aren't forerunner is irrelevant, they literally HAD to make it forunner for the first episode, and that was not forerunner in the least bit. I won't even subject you to my rant about the ending other than that it just took a deagle and peaced the show in the skull.

[sevlag]

it was ok, the drama was :|

action was good

hello forerunners, stop acting japanese...kthnx

elites looking like samurais= :\

[Alwin Roth]

Animations seemed... old...

And I really really dislike how the Spartan's hair was ultra long and poofy.

[Advancebo]

I hope to see better shorts from the other studios.

[DEElekgolo]

Everything seems very static through out the shots. Almost everything dynamic in all of the shots have little to no true lighting.
How the fuck did she fit all that hair in her helmet?

[Cagerrin]

Portraying Brutes as they ought to be :neckbeard:

Am I the only one who thought the architecture looked like the stuff you see during the end of H3?

[TeeKup]

Her hair was goddamn ridiculous, I could have sworn all spartans hair had to be short or something.

And why were there ancient japanese ruins on an alien planet.
EDIT: If they weren't forerunner, could they have been the ruins of one of the species the Forerunners protected? If so why were they Japanese?

[=sw=warlord]

A part of me died inside when i saw that video...

[ultama121]

Haven't seen it, but I think I'll wait for the sub. Expecting lolcliche.

[t3h m00kz]

aw skrew u guyz dat shit was ossim

[ICEE]

That was so incredibly lame

[p0lar_bear]

Well, I appreciate more insight into the universe, but the various anime idiosyncracies bug me. The fight scenes, hair, melodrama, etc.

[Heathen]

Is the hair really that big of a deal?

Its fucking hair.

[p0lar_bear]

Is the hair really that big of a deal?

Its fucking hair.

It's more or less that the Japanese seem to have a hair fetish.

An anime or JRPG where all characters have believable hair is hard to find.

[DEElekgolo]

The only way to tell the difference between 1 anime character and another is the color of there hair, eye brows, and how they squint there eyes.
Also the UNSC hair length limit is 13-17 centimeters I think.

[=sw=warlord]

Is the hair really that big of a deal?

Its fucking hair.
I fail to see how 5 meters of hair can fit inside a helmet like the one a spartan would use.
No wonder it took the scientists so long to put the armour on the spartans, they probably took like 45 minutes get getting the hair spray to keep the hair fluffed up like that.

[Good_Apollo]

I went in expecting a Halo Anime. I walked out pleased.

Seems like you guys had some skewed expectations or something.

[DEElekgolo]

Probably because we applied the common ideas of anime to it.

[ejburke]

Pretty jarring. The Japanese influences had me completely distracted. I don't even know if it was all that bad -- I couldn't get past the stupid hair on the main characters. I'm fairly sure it wasn't good, though.

The part where the Spartan goes into the swamp and pulls out the pod was ridiculous. Even if her massive weight wasn't enough to sink her, the force she exerted onto the pod would have surely driven her straight down.

Although, I probably have a bigger problem with there being female Spartans in the first place. And I can't blame that on the Japanese.

What I can blame on the Japanese is the sexist cultural lense that this thing was meant to be viewed through. Oh, the Spartan is a girl. That changes EVERYTHING for the douche-y ODST. He hearts her now. Lame.

[=sw=warlord]

Pretty jarring. The Japanese influences had me completely distracted. I don't even know if it was all that bad -- I couldn't get past the stupid hair on the main characters. I'm fairly sure it wasn't good, though.

The part where the Spartan goes into the swamp and pulls out the pod was ridiculous. Even if her massive weight wasn't enough to sink her, the force she exerted onto the pod would have surely driven her straight down.

Although, I probably have a bigger problem with there being female Spartans in the first place. And I can't blame that on the Japanese.

What I can blame on the Japanese is the sexist cultural lense that this thing was meant to be viewed through. Oh, the Spartan is a girl. That changes EVERYTHING for the douche-y ODST. He hearts her now. Lame.You really are a berk arn't you.
There were female spartans before hand in the books.

[Good_Apollo]

You really are a berk arn't you.
There were female spartans before hand in the books.
I think that's why he said he can't blame it on them. He thinks woman aren't up to it. :allears:

[n00b1n8R]

Although, I probably have a bigger problem with there being female Spartans in the first place. And I can't blame that on the Japanese.
Spartans can be female, they're not Imperial Spacemarines you know. :downs:

[English Mobster]

Kelly and Linda from the books were both girls.
Kelly was a badass, Linda was a sniper.

[Ganon]

I went in expecting a Halo Anime. I walked out pleased.

oh good, well they gave you that!


Seems like you guys had some skewed expectations or something.

came into this knowing full well it was going to be shitty

shitty idea
shitty director
shitty plot

[ejburke]

It's not that females aren't up to it or that they couldn't be developed into "super-soldiers". It's that there's no way they should have beaten out any men as viable candidates for the program.

I mean, they're basically turning these women into giant men. Hormonally, low levels of estrogen and high levels of testosterone would almost certainly be the goal. Why not just start out with a male who's closer to what you're trying to accomplish? Why spend money and resources just to close a gap when you can start on the other side of the chasm?

That's all.

EDIT: Just to be clear, I was aware that female Spartans are "canon". I've thought it stupid for a while now.

[=sw=warlord]

It's not that females aren't up to it or that they couldn't be developed into "super-soldiers". It's that there's no way they should have beaten out any men as viable candidates for the program.

I mean, they're basically turning these women into giant men. Hormonally, low levels of estrogen and high levels of testosterone would almost certainly be the goal. Why not just start out with a male who's closer to what you're trying to accomplish? Why spend money and resources just to close a gap when you can start on the other side of the chasm?

That's all.

Look at it this way, all you need is to put those woman onto a permanent PMS and you have a fearsome fighter already.
Amirite aerowyn?

[ejburke]

Menstrual blood throughout the gel layer...

Although, mothers protecting their young are formidable. Maybe they were shown training videos where their unborn baby was represented by a caterpillar and the Covenant was represented by Kimbo Slice.

[n00b1n8R]

It's not that females aren't up to it or that they couldn't be developed into "super-soldiers". It's that there's no way they should have beaten out any men as viable candidates for the program.

I mean, they're basically turning these women into giant men. Hormonally, low levels of estrogen and high levels of testosterone would almost certainly be the goal. Why not just start out with a male who's closer to what you're trying to accomplish? Why spend money and resources just to close a gap when you can start on the other side of the chasm?
You obviously over-estimate the size of the population viable for spartan II level enhancement. :allears:

And muscles arn't all you're after with a soldier after all, women are generally more flexible and it's not like all the spartans were equal anyway vOv

[Heathen]

You obviously over-estimate the size of the population viable for spartan II level enhancement. :allears:

And muscles arn't all you're after with a soldier after all, women are generally more flexible and it's not like all the spartans were equal anyway vOv

he obviously underestimates women too.

[ejburke]

You obviously over-estimate the size of the population viable for spartan II level enhancement. :allears:

And muscles arn't all you're after with a soldier after all, women are generally more flexible and it's not like all the spartans were equal anyway vOvI don't think Eric Nylund cares about flexibility. He wanted to write about female Spartans and thus there were female Spartans. Anything in science fiction can be explained away with some bullshit reason or another. But every one of us has a line for what we'll accept and what we'll reject. It just so happens that my threshold is more easily crossed than others. To each their own.


he obviously underestimates women too.I posted what I posted knowing full well that it could be misconstrued as misogyny by a certain class of intellect. But I posted it anyway thinking that, a) people here have common sense enough to see the point I was trying to make, and b) I'd get the slightest benefit of the doubt and the smallest shred of respect around here. Wrong on both counts, I guess.

Time for me to hop back in my time machine and head back to the 1950's. No, wait, I'm going back to PRE-suffrage times. BECAUSE I'M ALL ABOUT THAT!

[Heathen]

I posted what I posted knowing full well that it could be misconstrued as misogyny by a certain class of intellect.

hurf durf I am hiding my stupidity by calling you stupid :downs:

[itszutak]

Considering the augmentation process, I don't think it matters if you start with men or women-- by the end they'd look pretty much the same thanks to the ridiculous amount of steroids and hormones pumped through them, combined with whatever else they did. I think they mention in the books how you can't really tell them apart (With the armor on, at least. That implies to me that their basic body shape (hips/shoulder proportions, overall shape, etc.) is the same.

I haven't seen the anime yet but somehow I imagine they prettied up the female spartans. Am I correct?

[p0lar_bear]

I haven't seen the anime yet but somehow I imagine they prettied up the female spartans. Am I correct?

In steriotypical anime fashion, the masked, powerful character is a female with good looks.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/File:Cal-141%283%29.jpg

[=sw=warlord]

ejburke (http://www.modacity.net/forums/member.php?u=129): im going to feel really sorry for you once you've passed school and actualy met a woman, i dare say your first experience could be extremely painfull because of your womanizing attitude.
Also.
Anyone notice Dutch being a main character same with o'brian?
O'brian was in halo 2 and died pretty quickly in the video "another day at the beach" and well Dutch was from ODST.

[itszutak]

In steriotypical anime fashion, the masked, powerful character is a female with good looks.

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/File:Cal-141%283%29.jpg
what the hell when did this turn into final fantasy

[TeeKup]

what the hell when did this turn into final fantasy

When 4C got picked to do a halo anime.

I'm hoping some of the others are better than this, the only compliment I can give are the environments.

[itszutak]

I believe the people who worked on GITS is doing one of the animes. That's pretty much the only one I have any hope for.

[TeeKup]

I believe the people who worked on GITS is doing one of the animes. That's pretty much the only one I have any hope for.

Agreed, if anything good can come out of these it should be theirs.

[p0lar_bear]

O'brian was in halo 2 and died pretty quickly in the video "another day at the beach" and well Dutch was from ODST.

He could be the same character, but it's unknown at the moment. I kinda hope it is, O'Brian was a goddamn whiner (whiny protagonist? anime.)

[ThePlague]

First episode or whatever it was that I watched on Halo Waypoint was terrible. Ruined halo for me :\

what the hell, the gurl chief died like a pussy. And what was with her having a knife? i've never seen a Spartan have to resort to something like that. Hell, even the ODST's used their hands. she can throw a damn drop pod but can't kill a grunt? :\

[Good_Apollo]

First episode or whatever it was that I watched on Halo Waypoint was terrible. Ruined halo for me :\

what the hell, the gurl chief died like a pussy. And what was with her having a knife? i've never seen a Spartan have to resort to something like that. Hell, even the ODST's used their hands. she can throw a damn drop pod but can't kill a grunt? :\
The Spartans are portrayed as having combat knives on them in the books. One of them in particular is told playing with them constantly.

[TeeKup]

Wasn't that Fred?

[n00b1n8R]

what the hell, the gurl chief died like a pussy. And what was with her having a knife? i've never seen a Spartan have to resort to something like that. Hell, even the ODST's used their hands. she can throw a damn drop pod but can't kill a grunt? :\
Spartans have never had to resort to using mele attacks to kill somebody? :raise:

[ThePlague]

Spartans have never had to resort to using mele attacks to kill somebody? :raise:
What I meant was using a knife instead of their bare hands.

[=sw=warlord]

What I meant was using a knife instead of their bare hands.
Why use bare hands when you can just stab the brute with a knife?

[Advancebo]

No need to get your hands dirty :realsmug:

[ICEE]

Hell, even the ODST's used their hands.

Unless they happen to be stabbing a brute who is about to hammer their buddy down

[Kornman00]

Maybe since she was a girl she didn't have the strength to take out a grunt with her bare hands :downs:

[Heathen]

Agreed, if anything good can come out of these it should be theirs.

same as what I said.

[n00b1n8R]

What I meant was using a knife instead of their bare hands.
:roflwtf:

[paladin]

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[Cortexian]

They did a decent job of portraying the Spartans persona's... Mission first above anything else, "get the data to Halsey" shows their complete dedicated to the Doctor.

Other than that, it was p bad, they should have made some CGI or live action short films instead. Would of been a lot better imo.

[n00b1n8R]

That was so shit :lmao:

E: no but seriously bits of it were cool but why didn't the spartan have a shield?

[itszutak]

Agh. Don't really want to watch it right now. Probably would watch it if it were japanese w/ english subs, if only because then I can't tell what parts are bad voice acting.

Either way I'll watch it tomorrow

[Kornman00]

That was so shit :lmao:

E: no but seriously bits of it were cool but why didn't the spartan have a shield?
Does this episode even have an associated Halo Date? This could be Halo Wars era, seeing as how they don't seem to have a motion sensor either...

TBQH: I think it would have been cheaper and easier (possibly even better??) to do this all in the Halo 3 (ODST) engine. MS owns those engines after all. But this was all about doing a Halo anime so vOv

[L0d3x]

I liked the action and stuff, but what's up with the japanese architecture that is supposedly alien?

[Con]

I didn't find this all that bad aside from the weird ass architecture.

[Yoko]

Anime made 15 years ago looked much better, but I guess M$ has to stretch Halo as thin as they can for the kiddies!

[ICEE]

I liked the action and stuff, but what's up with the japanese architecture that is supposedly alien?

Its not alien. Its just Japanese. There are no Asians in halo, everyone just forgot what Japanese architecture looks like and now they think its "forerunner"

[paladin]

Does this episode even have an associated Halo Date? This could be Halo Wars era, seeing as how they don't seem to have a motion sensor either...

TBQH: I think it would have been cheaper and easier (possibly even better??) to do this all in the Halo 3 (ODST) engine. MS owns those engines after all. But this was all about doing a Halo anime so vOv

That would actually be a lot of work, especially since they would have to create new environments and characters; then animated them. From the looks of it, this looks like it would faster, not necessarily easier, to hand animate.

[Hotrod]

So I just watched this on Youtube and I think I am going to cry. It's without a doubt the worst official Halo-related thing up to date. That broke canon in so many ways too, I don't even want to begin to list them.

I don't have much hope for the episode with the Spartan-1337, nor the one with the red Spartan chick with the tiny teddy bear, but the other ones may still not be horrible.

[paladin]

One thing I did notice was the the horrible changes in character volume.

[p0lar_bear]

I don't have much hope for the episode with the Spartan-1337

It's been said about a million times before that that short is a gag episode and is not canon.

[TeeKup]

That was so shit :lmao:

E: no but seriously bits of it were cool but why didn't the spartan have a shield?

If you payed close enough attention (although I can understand if you can't because it was bad). Cal was wearing Mjolnir Mark IV Armor which did not have energy shields, or motion sensors for that matter iirc.

[L0d3x]

Its not alien. Its just Japanese. There are no Asians in halo, everyone just forgot what Japanese architecture looks like and now they think its "forerunner"

Why would a prophet come to a japanes-ish place? I think those structures are supposed to represent the "alien architecture" found on that planet.

[English Mobster]

I knew Halo Anime was stupid.
Like my female friend (and anime geek!) friend said, "Halo + Anime = Bad".

[Hotrod]

It's been said about a million times before that that short is a gag episode and is not canon.
I know that. What I meant to say is that I have little hope for that episode of being any good. From what I've seen of it so far, and what I've read about it, it sounds like it'll be a really silly episode, if not just plain stupid.

[Good_Apollo]

I know that. What I meant to say is that I have little hope for that episode of being any good. From what I've seen of it so far, and what I've read about it, it sounds like it'll be a really silly episode, if not just plain stupid.Oh hi, that'd be the definition of a gag episode.

[ICEE]

Why would a prophet come to a japanes-ish place? I think those structures are supposed to represent the "alien architecture" found on that planet.

There was absolutely nothing serious about my post my friend :)

[Delta4907]

Well, Duel is on Halo Waypoint today. Thoughts?
Despite my connection being crap, and the odd water color effect that seems to be on it, I thought it was pretty damn good. The hunter is way off-scale, but it's nothing if you're willing to put it aside. I really couldn't find anything I didn't like that changed the way I viewed the episode as a whole.

[teh lag]

:ugh:

Animation irritated me. First ep was at least visually pleasing to a degree - this was hard to look at. Especially when they had still frames for like 3 seconds with no motion at all. They pretty obviously used 3D CGI for this, so they should have at least made it look good.

Voice acting was irritating as well. I've pretty much given up all hope of having decent VA for this series, as this and both versions of Babystitter were less-than-satisfactory.

What the fuck? Elites w/ normal mouths (which then seem to morph into the splitjaw at seemingly random intervals)? Female elite giggling like a moeblob? Ugh. I thought she was a prophet or something at first.

The story as a whole just seemed schizophrenic. I could barely tell what was happening (Especially in the super-horde-takedown. What are modern Covie units doing in a scene from the first formation of the Covenant?) and it seemed more like an attempt to be "deep" or "complex" by being unnecessarily disjointed. In retrospect I'm starting to piece it together... but only barely. I guess I'm too unsophisticated to get the super-depth of traditional Japanese storytelling.

The Grunt scene just pissed me off. It was a really heavy-handed attempt to inject "lol randum" humor into something that was otherwise serious, and it did not work well at all.

Also the elite shogun (or whatever they wanted him to be) was fucking ridiculous, especially his final-fantasy class sword (made of metal too - HOW is it possible to think it makes sense for one guy to have a metal sword and the other a goddamn lightsaber?).

Oh, and the high-pressure-blood that put the mass-produced Eva units to shame.

The Hunter was seriously cool though. That was the one thing I liked.

In summary: watch this if you want to sit through 12 minutes of wtfugh to see an Arbiter fight a 50-foot-tall Hunter for no apparent reason.

[Arteen]

I thought it was pretty cool overall.

[DEElekgolo]

Animation was a bit annoying. The way people talked, the girl elite. Really annoyed me. The whole Japanese samurai thing was stupid. Maybe if it didn't have that whole watercolor thing it would have been less annoying. Everything reminds me of the Protoss from starcraft.

[Hotrod]

Ok, what the fuck was that? <enter all that teh lag said here>

I was expecting this episode to be better than the first...but it was worse...far far worse...

[sdavis117]

Since when did the Covenant come from Japan?

[ICEE]

since halo became an anime

[Higuy]

well, that was horrible.

The animation, water coloring shit, the giant horde take down, the elties mouths were really bad. When there mouth moved, nothing else did. Some elites had regular, human mouths, hunters were the size of fucking 3 story buildings, the arbiter shoots out a pool of blood bigger then his body volume, and alot of other shit was just HORRIBLE.

[ExAm]

My theory about the mouths was that they look more or less "normal" with the jaws collapsed together, and the skin on the sides and bottom pulls back when they need to open their jaws wider. You can see the splits in their jaws when they aren't open wide. Still, I agree that it's stupid.

[TeeKup]

Since when did the Covenant come from Japan?

I don't know that is seriously starting to annoy the living hell out of me.

[Dwood]

My theory about the mouths was that they look more or less "normal" with the jaws collapsed together, and the skin on the sides and bottom pulls back when they need to open their jaws wider. You can see the splits in their jaws when they aren't open wide. Still, I agree that it's stupid.

That's still a massive step away from canon and butchering all things Halo.

[paladin]

Ok, what the fuck was that? <enter all that teh lag said here>

I was expecting this episode to be better than the first...but it was worse...far far worse...

Why would you expect that? This was made by a different studio.

[TeeKup]

Since when were ghost's fighter jets? Why are hunters the size of Gundams?

[Good_Apollo]

This seems to have a case of Halo: Graphic novel syndrome. I thought it was a good read and could look past the franchise put into a different medium with artistic freedoms being used. Depends if you can look past it and enjoy or rage over it I guess.

[t3h m00kz]

so that The Duel segment was p cool eh guys :mech2:

[FireDragon04]

On HBO Frankie confirmed that in the early stages of the covenant Lekogolo where deployed in different sizes and the Lekgolo colonies seen in 'The Dual' where prototype hunters. And he even hinted that there could be larger colonies still used by the Covenant but we have only seen them at work as 'Hunters' and in Scarabs.

I really liked the episode after the first few minutes of hating the art style, and while the Sangheili (elite) mouths did bother me, they still showed the 'split lip' look we are use to in a few scenes so it was okay to me. I'm really looking forward to the next episode in a couple of weeks, looks so good!

[t3h m00kz]

They did an interesting way of using the mouths to express emotion, but overall the design is kind of wtf. Some of the armor is bad ass, but as far as the organic design, such as their faces, I'm wasn't too fond of it.

heh DAers are raging over a few things that are now officially cannon :mech2:

[Ganon]

this is not an anime. this is a saturday morning kids cartoon

just so we are all on the same page now!

[Cagerrin]

what the fuck

these are the guys who did GitS.

why does the art suck so much

[Heathen]

what the fuck

these are the guys who did GitS.

why does the art suck so much

not all of the episodes are the GitS guys right?

[Cagerrin]

not all of the episodes are the GitS guys right?
Just this and the next one.

Though judging by the poster for the next episode, the art style for it is far less ugly.

[ODX]

The Duel:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/the-duel-halo-legends/59357?type=flv

Art is slightly different now, some things are like...3D looking, but still anime-ish.

[Gwunty]

OHHHH GOD WTF WTF
SHIT RAPED MY EYES GUYS:suicide::suicide::suicide::suicide::suicide:

[ultama121]

what the fuck

these are the guys who did GitS.

why does the art suck so much

At times a production studio can mean a lot for what to expect in an anime, but at others, not at all. Production IG (The guys who did GitS) have some good and bad art all around.

[p0lar_bear]

Just watched it.

The fight scenes were pretty awesome all around. Everything else, meh.

I say that bushido/samurai/whateverthefuck elite was uncalled for entirely.

[mech]

THE JOURNEY IS A LIEEEEEEEEEEEE

This was pretty stupid, but it's an anime so I wasn't suprised.

[Kornman00]

I'm beginning to think this is MS's way of bringing the Asian (gaming) community into Halo. Seeing as how they're not so much into FPSes to begin with, what better way to spark their interest than with silly anime!

God this last episode made my want to slap someone with a big fish. And those still frame shots....
W
T
F
?
Over

:ugh:

[FRain]

i just lost my virginity watching that

[Cagerrin]

'pon further consideration, I have decided to consider this a parody of samurai movies, rather than canon to the Halo universe.

[=sw=warlord]

I'm beginning to think this is MS's way of bringing the Asian (gaming) community into Halo. Seeing as how they're not so much into FPSes to begin with, what better way to spark their interest than with silly anime!

:ugh:
Frankie already said it was to get the asian gaming community into Halo.

[Kornman00]

No wonder I can't stand it :downs:

I wonder what the avg Asian gamer (located in Asia, not Asian-american) thinks of this

[Heathen]

i just lost my virginity watching that

lost mine watching my grandma make a pie.

[Kornman00]

lost mine watching my grandma make a pie.
Wait :raise:...

WTF :gonk:?

Serious :v:?

Ugh :ugh:

[legionaire45]

Terrible watercolor post processing
Stiff/bad animations
Female elite just looked...bad...snake + protoss = that thing.
Gigantic hunters (and the explanations behind them) don't make sense
Samurai elite armor at the end didn't fit in at all. They could have at least made it look something like arbiter/elite armor.

They're focusing so much on turning this into anime that they are completely missing that they are trying to make something that fits into the Halo universe, not mixing and matching parts of their culture with some Halo stuff. The thing that should stand out in these shorts is what they add to the Halo universe, not the fact that they've thrown a crappy post-processing effect on top of their "meh" worthy 3D animation and called it anime. The only thing this really added to the Halo universe was the bit regarding the reason that the position of arbiter is regarded as shameful. Everything else was just typical Bushido/misplaced Japanese culture or things we already know.

The first was definitely better than this one. Hopefully the rest will be better.

[L0d3x]

I found the underlying story ok (but no more than that). The art and animations on the other hand don't feel like Halo at all, imo. Too much chinese architecture and stuff.

Also, a guy with a plasma sword against a metal sword, hmmmmmm.

Oh and no elite can take out an entire Covenant battle force, not even the Arbiter, by himself.

[=sw=warlord]

Oh and no elite can take out an entire Covenant battle force, not even the Arbiter, by himself.
Halowars.:iamafag:

[Good_Apollo]

I thought it was decent. I liked the first one better and I absolutely hated the 'female' elite. The rest makes pretty decent sense in a canon perspective. The Elites have a pretty Samurai-esque culture and the use of metal swords as ceremonial seems to make sense as stuff like plasma weaponry was granted to them by the Prophets was it not? The giant Hunter was whatevs...never seem them in that form but doesn't mean they weren't ever created bigger afterall it's just a bunch of worms, they can make anything.

The artstyle was unique and I enjoyed it, but the long random pauses were stupid and broke the momentum. Any other quirks were just anime mainstays and were expected really.

[itszutak]

I got the limited edition of the Halo 3 game, which came with a little book describing the different Covenant races.

Somehow, when they said Elites lived in a Feudal society, I figured they meant Medieval Europe feudal, not Japanese feudal. Then again, the honor guard armor in H2 should have been a bit of a tip-off.

I dunno. I can't stand bad voice acting, so I watched the episode muted-- and even though I don't like how they completely screwed up elite mouths, I'm kind of okay with it, as long as I imagine it as some sort of retractable lower jaw (which would also solve the mystery as to how elite eat with a hole in their mouths).

Some day I'll go back and watch it with sound. Not today.

[Arteen]

Halowars.:iamafag:
Multiplayer isn't canon.

Also, I wouldn't take the samurai armor and all that at face value. The Halo Graphic Novel had some terrible art in one of the stories, but those designs aren't canon.

[n00b1n8R]

Where the hell do people go to debate what is and is not chosen as cannon. If it's presented, why shouldn't you be able to take it at face value (please note that I personally choose a "personal cannon" which includes the vast majority of the universes I care about but omits the fucking retarded shit like squats in 40K).

[p0lar_bear]

An obscure IP comes into existence and it gains popularity after a while. A sequel is needed, so the IP must be expanded upon. When this happens, there are still many blanks to be filled in. Since the official creators can only create so much, fan speculation occurs. After any initial mess, the most logical explanations eventually become accepted as fact.

When the IP owner then goes and does something that's different, the fan base doesn't like that their vision isn't true, so what do they do?

[ExAm]

When the IP owner then goes and does something that's different, the fan base doesn't like that their vision isn't true, so what do they do?
Whine. That's what.

[Needles]

I'm beginning to think this is MS's way of bringing the Asian (gaming) community into Halo. Seeing as how they're not so much into FPSes to begin with, what better way to spark their interest than with silly anime!

God this last episode made my want to slap someone with a big fish. And those still frame shots....
W
T
F
?
Over

:ugh:

I'm Asian, and I don't even like anime, much less how bad their doing with halo legends. Though the only halo I like is wars because its an RTS.

[DEElekgolo]

New halo legends came out today. "The Package"
Holy ass this is awesome.

FFFFFFFF TO BE CONTINUED

[sdavis117]

Well, that wasn't so bad. I actually liked this one a bit, even though they give very little story to it.

But then again, the explosions and firefights make up for that.

[MetKiller Joe]

..

What the hell? The production quality of this one was worse than the anime ones. Voice acting was horrible.

I keep watching these hoping the next will be better, but they just keep disappointing.

[Con]

Why was this one so different from the previous?

[Pooky]

This one was terrible. Way worse than the last one. I hated everything about it.

[paladin]

tha animation on this one was the best imo. My brother captured it and is rendering it. he has all the others on his website. if you want access send me a pm.

[ExAm]

...The hell? The voice acting and overall dub quality is absolutely terrible.

[TeeKup]

The voice acting was horrendous. I enjoyed everything else though.

[sdavis117]

Story had quite a few holes in it, voice acting was horrible, but the actions was awesome, and so were the animations.

[=sw=warlord]

They turned Halo in power rangers:gonk:

[Lateksi]

Coolest episode so far. Do the fail fonts used disturb anyone here? xD

[teh lag]

Why do these Spartans drop like flies? Why did that one have dreadlocks? Why couldn't MS at least shell out the cash to get the Steve Downes to play the Chief? (Seriously the VA on these is absolutely horrible on all counts). Why did those spacebikes have shields when the Spartans, by all canon accounts, shouldn't? I can't imagine the UNSC would be willing to waste prototype technology on throw-away equipment like that. Even the action underwhelmed me - the hog turret on the back of the spacebike made me crack up.

The Covie ships looked cool. Everything else reminded me more of Star Wars than Halo though.

[Heathen]

none of this will ever be considered or accepted as canon, thank god.

I dont think it was meant to be.

E: 7777th post!!!!~!!!!~!~!@

http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/emot-caruso.gif

[Kornman00]

At least Halo: Evolutions doesn't disappoint. However, I enjoy these Legend episodes in the fact that they're actually finished material when compared to all the would-be map teams and map ideas that never saw a real beta or the day of light. Basically, it's just like all those thousands of Star Trek/Wars books out there: Entertainment, tickles the fancy; but not seriously taken.

[Good_Apollo]

I'm pretty sure almost all of the Star Wars books out there are canon, save a few select ones and some comics.

[t3h m00kz]

none of this will ever be considered or accepted as canon, thank god.

I dont think it was meant to be.

On the contrary, Frankie stated at the ODST launch event at Seattle Center that all of the Halo: Legends stories are canon, save for one, which will be the one by Toei.

As for some of the environment and character designs which is what really has been irking some fans, I'd just like to think of them as "artistic interpretations." From what I uinderstand though, the overall silhouette of things may still be canon.

[Con]

^.

Any artistic styling or design choices are just a different interpretation. Everything important should still be considered canon, for example characters and events.

[Heathen]

Lame. Not in my canon.

[Cortexian]

Yea, none of this anime stuff actually happened.

As opposed to the games and books stuff, which actually did happen, right? RIGHT?!

[Dwood]

Yea, none of this anime stuff actually happened.

As opposed to the games and books stuff, which actually did happen, right? RIGHT?!

in MY haloverse. in my head.

[Heathen]

Yea, none of this anime stuff actually happened.

As opposed to the games and books stuff, which actually did happen, right? RIGHT?!

yes

[t3h m00kz]

I didn't particularly part 1 of The Package. Not very much happened, it seemed very shallow. The 3D art, animation and action was okay, though I didn't particularly like the character stylization. Voice acting was pretty bad, but bearable, the Elites were butt-ugly, and I can't exactly find myself sympathizing for any of the characters.

It seems like your typical "Spartans VS Covenant" story with very little plot, something I'd expect form a fanfiction or machinema. 6.5/10

[ExAm]

Lame. Not in my canon.
Giggly female elites? In my canon? It's more likely than you think!

[Heathen]

Giggly female elites? In my canon? It's more likely than you think!

there were giggly female elites? :gonk:

[t3h m00kz]

yes, there were.

DAers raged.

I sat by, laughing. Laughing oh so quietly.

[p0lar_bear]

By the way, according to Halopedia (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Han_%28The_Duel%29) (actually Frankie), the "fucking-up" of the elites, especially the female one, in Duel was intentional in order to assist in making viewers sympathize with the deaths.

Idk about you guys, but I think all that did was make a shitton of Halofags rage.

[Bodzilla]

I didn't particularly part 1 of The Package. Not very much happened, it seemed very shallow. The 3D art, animation and action was okay, though I didn't particularly like the character stylization. Voice acting was pretty bad, but bearable, the Elites were butt-ugly, and I can't exactly find myself sympathizing for any of the characters.

what is it wit chu and Animated Elites Butts :-3

[t3h m00kz]

oh hoh I see what you did there

im just sayin man dem elites had eyes that looked like jelly donuts

INFECTED jelly donuts

[TeeKup]

Are you trying to insinuate that the elites were infected with the flood?

[t3h m00kz]

if by flood you mean horribly designed eyes that look like diseased jelly donuts then yes.

Also, blinking horizontally? In Halo 3 they blinked vertically.

Another case of artistic liberties I suppose, I guess no one design is truly "canon."

[Kornman00]

By the way, according to Halopedia (http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Han_%28The_Duel%29) (actually Frankie), the "fucking-up" of the elites, especially the female one, in Duel was intentional in order to assist in making viewers sympathize with the deaths.

Idk about you guys, but I think all that did was make a shitton of Halofags rage.
Why would they make an alien race more human just to try to get viewers to "sympathize with the deaths"?

As long as the scene is carried out properly, the subjects don't have to be no where near human in order to wave an affect on the viewer. Look at god killing kittens everytime someone wanks. Not only does it create babies, but a spiteful god releases himself on a poor helpless KITTEN!

See animals can have our sympathy too. It's not the book we're looking at, it's the material we're reading which makes us enjoy it.

[Lateksi]

You know how they don't paint black people actually brown in anime? It's more like.. light beige. And both white people and Asians actually look snow white :S

Same thing with the female elite... it was kinda funny imo.

[=sw=warlord]

Is it bad, that the only episode i actualy partialy enjoyed happened to be the gimmick episode?
Also what the fuck is halsey doing with bright blonde hair, wouldnt she have grey hair by now?

[Delta4907]

Lol, the references to Cortana, with Halsey saying the exact same quotes is so cheesy. And also, is it just me, or did they apparently use the original Halo Wars trailer elite (this one (http://images.xboxyde.com/gallery/public/5572/1154_0002.jpg)). They couldn't make another elite model or something? Just odd seeing that in this short.
Edit: Scratch that, pretty much 80% of the lines are reworded quotes from other halo games. And with chief taking his helmet off in the end, but its cut off because the camera moves, that's just so obvious.

[sdavis117]

Is it bad, that the only episode i actualy partialy enjoyed happened to be the gimmick episode?
Also what the fuck is halsey doing with bright blonde hair, wouldnt she have grey hair by now?

People age half as fast in the Halo universe. Also, she has probably spent most of her life in Cryo.

But yeah, she still looks way too young.

[=sw=warlord]

People age half as fast in the Halo universe. Also, she has probably spent most of her life in Cryo.

But yeah, she still looks way too young.
In the books shes refferenced to have grey hair, and considering she was the progenator of the spartan 2 program im pretty sure she spent alot of time with her spartans as they grew up.
Plus the fack cortana modeled herself after halsey as she was literaly halsey without social inhibitions[this is why cortana is naked and the other AI have clothes].

[Warsaw]

Cortana does not look like Halsey, her mannerisms are just similar. AIs are like offspring; there is a chance they will inherit some of the traits of their "parents" but it is not a given.

And that's a canon fact, according to the Halo Encyclopedia. :v:

[paladin]

Halsey was waaaaaaayyyyyyyyy to young imo

[=sw=warlord]

Cortana does not look like Halsey, her mannerisms are just similar. AIs are like offspring; there is a chance they will inherit some of the traits of their "parents" but it is not a given.

And that's a canon fact, according to the Halo Encyclopedia. :v:
In fall of reach when cortana chooses which spartan to work with halsey remarks about cortana being almost identical to halsey but without the social inhibitions because halsey also felt the same way when cortana said she was "attracted" to john in a almost "animalistic" way.

[Warsaw]

In fall of reach when cortana chooses which spartan to work with halsey remarks about cortana being almost identical to halsey but without the social inhibitions because halsey also felt the same way when cortana said she was "attracted" to john in a almost "animalistic" way.

I remember her saying that she reminded her of herself, not that she looked exactly the same. Hell, she might look similar, but that's about as far as it goes. Also, read what I said up there again. I said that they may share some traits just like offspring share some of the traits of their parents, but they are never exactly the same as the donor.

=|

Either way, the anime has failed hard so far.

[TeeKup]

Ok. I saw the full version and not the shitty youtube version on Halo Waypoint last night.

They broke canon so many times I don't even care anymore. Fuck this.

[ExAm]

Ok. I saw the full version and not the shitty youtube version on Halo Waypoint last night.

They broke canon so many times I don't even care anymore. Fuck this.
Did another episode get released when I wasn't paying attention? Or are you talking about episode 3? If so, elaborate. I didn't like it much, but I'm not a huge canon buff.

[Warsaw]

It's bad even if you aren't a canon buff. I like anime...no, I like good anime. This isn't it.

[mech]

Do asians think this is cool or something? This is fucking stupid, I found myself laughing at this last one, it was ridiculous.

[TeeKup]

Did another episode get released when I wasn't paying attention? Or are you talking about episode 3? If so, elaborate. I didn't like it much, but I'm not a huge canon buff.

I saw the Package on youtube at first and it wasnt the whole thing. The other night I saw it on Halo Waypoint. I withdraw everything I said about this before.

Human stealth ships cannot cloak, never before in the books was it described that human ships had the ability to physically cloak.

The design architecture of that human ship was not human in the slightest, I absolutely hated it.

Since when could the Covenant disassemble their ships and eject sections like its goddamn star trek?

In several scenes I saw turrets on covenant battle cruisers where there were turrets facing each other and there was about a foot between them, That's a pretty fucking stupid design that we have never seen before.

My biggest concern was Dr. Halsey. Why did she look like she was 19 years old? She's supposed to be somewhat late middle-aged something like that. I believe our description of her in Ghosts of Onyx was a gray-silver haired woman. Not some blond cheerleader slut from high school.

I refuse to acknowledge any of the Halo Legends as canon. This is complete bullshit.

[thehoodedsmack]

@TeeKup:

You can still consider some, if not most of the stuff as canon. Just because the artists depicted the events a certain way doesn't mean that's exactly how it was. There are lots of different depictions of Jesus, or Saint Nicholas, or other historic figures, but the important thing is the events behind the people.

And since most of the hate surrounding these shorts stem from established facts in the books, a non-visual medium, you'd think most people against them would realize that it's the story that's the important part.

[Warsaw]

The books also give detailed descriptions of what happened. If it were just the story, then the summary on the back would suffice. :v:

[Kornman00]

Human stealth ships cannot cloak, never before in the books was it described that human ships had the ability to physically cloak.

The design architecture of that human ship was not human in the slightest, I absolutely hated it.

Since when could the Covenant disassemble their ships and eject sections like its goddamn star trek?

:raise:. Just because it was never stated in the books before doesn't mean it didn't happen. First, it was a (prototype?) ONI ship. Second...maybe it was a repurposed Forerunner ship :downs:? Hence the clock. Third, it was the flagship...could have had designs not seen before. Also, the flagships would be hella larger, and a component built ship would be easier to well...build. It's not just like they went "ohay, u kno wat would b cool guyz? a covie ship dat broke a part lololol!". Star Trek had reasons for their saucer section too and the fact that they referred to them as "sections" helps to the fact that they either used them as parts in the building process and/or in case of failing systems in those sections. Or, in case of intruders. Or mutany. Or, because the ship master didn't like that part of the ship and was like "f dat section"

Just think if they hadn't mentioned the SIIIs until now...then everyone would be going on and on about them being fucking non-canon along with the next game :downs:

[ExAm]

I saw the Package on youtube at first and it wasnt the whole thing. The other night I saw it on Halo Waypoint. I withdraw everything I said about this before.

Human stealth ships cannot cloak, never before in the books was it described that human ships had the ability to physically cloak.

The design architecture of that human ship was not human in the slightest, I absolutely hated it.

Since when could the Covenant disassemble their ships and eject sections like its goddamn star trek?

In several scenes I saw turrets on covenant battle cruisers where there were turrets facing each other and there was about a foot between them, That's a pretty fucking stupid design that we have never seen before.

My biggest concern was Dr. Halsey. Why did she look like she was 19 years old? She's supposed to be somewhat late middle-aged something like that. I believe our description of her in Ghosts of Onyx was a gray-silver haired woman. Not some blond cheerleader slut from high school.

I refuse to acknowledge any of the Halo Legends as canon. This is complete bullshit.
Man, I just watched the rest of it, forgot that I'd only seen a bit of it. Jesus, the density of direct Cortana quotes there just made me cringe.

Regarding Halsey's appearance, remember that everyone in japanese animation is either older or younger than they look. People under 40 are younger than they look, and people over that are older than they look. 60-somethings look 80, and 30-somethings look 20. Standard procedure, unfortunately.

That aside, everything just moved too fucking fast, and there was no emotion at all in their acting, unless you count that one five-second bit in which Halsey gets frustrated with the escape pod. At the very least in episode two there was some fucking drama, canon-butchering ridiculousness aside. This one just had no redeeming qualities about it. The animation sucked in parts, the first person bits were cringeworthy, there were absolutely pointless spartan deaths that were totally avoidable, and the voice actor they picked for the Chief sounded nothing like him. And the fucking attempts to force the idea that this woman is Dr. Halsey into the viewer's head by making her repeat multiple lines of dialogue that were made by an AI that was loosely based on her personality, all within thirty seconds of each other, and badly.

fuck.

[Warsaw]

:raise:. Just because it was never stated in the books before doesn't mean it didn't happen. First, it was a (prototype?) ONI ship. Second...maybe it was a repurposed Forerunner ship :downs:? Hence the clock. Third, it was the flagship...could have had designs not seen before. Also, the flagships would be hella larger, and a component built ship would be easier to well...build. It's not just like they went "ohay, u kno wat would b cool guyz? a covie ship dat broke a part lololol!". Star Trek had reasons for their saucer section too and the fact that they referred to them as "sections" helps to the fact that they either used them as parts in the building process and/or in case of failing systems in those sections. Or, in case of intruders. Or mutany. Or, because the ship master didn't like that part of the ship and was like "f dat section"

Just think if they hadn't mentioned the SIIIs until now...then everyone would be going on and on about them being fucking non-canon along with the next game :downs:

According to my trusty Halo Encyclopedia, Prowlers can cloak.

"Prowlers are Corvette-class stealth ships equipped with active camouflage, counter-electronic systems, and a minimal amount of weapons and armour" (page 253).

Circumference, Point of No Return, Pony Express, and several others were part of this class, though technically PoNR is not a prowler, but a stealth cruiser.

[TeeKup]

Well then I stand corrected about the cloak.

[=sw=warlord]

A prowler was also mentioned in first strike because it was how earth found out about reach being attacked, one of the officers was ordered to the wolfs lair with all the brass to debrief them.

[Delta4907]

Well, the trailer for Origins went up on Waypoint. I just watched it on youtube though, and this is really the only one I was looking foreward to. Part 1 goes live this Saturday for anyone who didn't know.
l4fozBZM1zM

[thehoodedsmack]

Great. They've gone and erased the one thing that made the games so mysterious and interesting. Anyways, looking forward to this. And I guess this puts to rest the whole "Forerunner Hand" thing.

[Kornman00]

and it was alllllllllll a dream

[Heathen]

and it was alllllllllll a dream

Seriously?

[Hotrod]

As much as it would be fascinating to see into the Forerunner culture (like what will happen with the Forerunner Trilogy of books), I'm not really interested about actually seeing any Forerunner, and especially through an anime that will most likely be horrible, and won't show Bungie's image of them.

Oh, and is it just me, or would the plural of Forerunner be Forerunner, and not Forerunners?

[Kornman00]

I'm pretty sure I recall one of Cortana's lines in Halo 1 saying "forerunners". I think HBO has all the transcripts under their story page if you're curious

They might as well show John's face while they're at it too :downs:

[Huero]

hi there i'm a generic fanboy i'm hostile to anything new that might jeopardize my precious halo

[Kornman00]

hi there i'm a generic fanboy i'm hostile to anything new that might jeopardize my precious halo
nice2meetu, my name is golem
http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/ADVGN/436N~Gollum-LOTR-Posters.jpg

[Dwood]

I'm pretty sure I recall one of Cortana's lines in Halo 1 saying "forerunners". I think HBO has all the transcripts under their story page if you're curious

They might as well show John's face while they're at it too :downs:

srs.

[Heathen]

I still don't think any of this was meant to be accepted as canon.

[t3h m00kz]

I distinctly remember Frankie himself at the ODST launch event saying every one of the shorts except Odd One Out was canon.

[AAA]

With halo, I'm still stuck at "How did Johnson survive in Halo 1 & 2?" I mean, he's like Kenny.

[n00b1n8R]

Lots of halo backstory made no sense, the books contradict the games and the books contradict themselves and the games contradict themselves too.

Pick and choose the best bits for yourself vOv

[English Mobster]

Well.
There goes all mystery about anything.

And through the eyes of Cortana? Seriously?
She hasn't been around for 10,000 years... Although she WAS in the Alpha Halo network, so I suppose she may have video...

[Huero]

jesus christ people
there's still plenty of mystery about the series; just not as much about the forerunners (and keep in mind this won't tell us EVERYTHING about them, just bits and pieces)
besides, this is a franchise; over time it fills out with information, and if you expected anything else, you're dumb.

[Heathen]

I distinctly remember Frankie himself at the ODST launch event saying every one of the shorts except Odd One Out was canon.

Well I'm not accepting it as canon. It's not what I want. :smith:

E: Someone fix :smith:

[Warsaw]

jesus christ people
there's still plenty of mystery about the series; just not as much about the forerunners (and keep in mind this won't tell us EVERYTHING about them, just bits and pieces)
besides, this is a franchise; over time it fills out with information, and if you expected anything else, you're dumb.

And because it's a franchise, every bit of information added after it became a franchise is tasteless and generally downright repulsive. :haw:

[itszutak]

And because it's a franchise, every bit of information added after it became a franchise is tasteless and generally downright repulsive. :haw:
Bingo!

[Delta4907]

Well, origins part 1 is on Waypoint. I couldn't find a youtube video, yet. Somebody will upload it eventually. Anyways:
Besides the fact that someone else is voicing cortana (wish they would've hired Jen Taylor, but whatever.) I thought it was ok. (I also seem to be an optimist cause every time I say its ok or good everyone else hates it.) I guess that this proves that there are no surviving Forerunner anywhere at all, and that Halos do kill the Flood itself and all sentient beings.

[Kornman00]

They did well with their portayal of the forerunner. They kept them hidden behind their environmental suits (remember Halo 1? GS remarks at John's suit's class). Though, it does look a little too Mcgyver-y. As the forerunner were suppose to be somehow tied genetically to humans it doesn't do any harm in how they did their autonomy.

However, it still leaves the question as exactly how we're tied. Maybe the then human race was a few evolutionary steps down from the forerunner as a species? They possibly wanted to study early human species and life and thus re-engineered the dna and had earth seeded but then the flood come and kinda messed with their R&D.


Will be interesting to see how part 2 plays out

[Kalub]

Halo animes? Any links to full episodes?

[DEElekgolo]

Forerunner energy swords. O damn.

[Delta4907]

It seems like an energy sword, but I think its some sort of beam weapon.

[sdavis117]

It's probably both.

[Delta4907]

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[DEElekgolo]

I'll shoot you with my sword.

[Kalub]

well shit... any other episodes?

[TeeKup]

I was not a fan of the design of that Forerunner leaders helmet. But I am content with everything else.

[thehoodedsmack]

Pretty cool. I wish Bungie would release an official, 3D interpretation of what a Halo firing looks like.

[Delta4907]

I liked the combat suit helmet.

[BloodyJabs]

Pretty cool. I wish Bungie would release an official, 3D interpretation of what a Halo firing looks like.
Yeah, I thought Halo killed life, not actually destroy the flood.

[Delta4907]

Well the Flood is a parasite, and a parasite is a type of organism, which is a living thing.

[Cagerrin]

:shake:

cannot stand Cortana's new voice.

[n00b1n8R]

Yeah, I thought Halo killed life, not actually destroy the flood.

Master Chief: The Flood is spreading. If we activate Halo's defenses we can
wipe them out.

Cortana: You have no idea how this ring works, do you? Why the Forerunners
built it? Halo doesn't kill Flood - it kills their food. Humans, Covenant,
whatever; we're all equally edible. The only way to stop the Flood is to
starve them to death and that's exactly what Halo is designed to do - wipe the
galaxy clean of all sentient life. You don't believe me? Ask him!

Master Chief: Is it true?

Monitor: More or less. Technically this installation's pulse has a maximum
effective radius of twenty five thousand light years, but once the others
follow suit, this galaxy will be quite devoid of life, or any least any life
with sufficient biomass to sustain the Flood...But you already knew that, I
mean, how couldn't you?

Cortana: Left out that little detail, did he?
hth.
(if you read that in their voices while imagining the actual cutscene, o/)
ht

[ICEE]

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hth.
(if you read that in their voices while imagining the actual cutscene, o/)
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[t3h m00kz]

Origins stayed pretty true to the story. Anyone who read the Mendicant Bias terminals would know.

Shame Mendicant and Offensive didn't make a cameo.

I'm also half-tempted to recreate that sword-gun thing, I've got an idea of how to tag it.

E: this thing

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[Hotrod]

I think this is the first episode of Halo Legends that I've actually enjoyed, and quite a bit at that. I take back what I've said before about it.

[Bodzilla]

so, from what i can tell everyone likes this episode?

[FireDragon04]

I liked it, but one thing bothered me.

The halo rings ended up at all of the covenant species home worlds? And all of them where 'reclaimers' too?

The whole forerunners 'saving and repopulating' species was a little under explained if you ask me.

And if the covenant species had halo's of their own, and they where 'blessed' by the forerunners like the Humans, why didn't they activate their 'great journey' themselves. Or for that matter go looking for more halo's in general.

Other then that I really liked it, art was good...etc liked the look of the forerunners too and still managed to keep the sense of mystery.

I think the whole flood dying when the halo's where activated was either killing the sentient beings of the flood hairacy or it was just for visual effect to show what would happen to the floor, for the sake of the story.

[t3h m00kz]

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I did it because I doubt anybody else would have.

[Kornman00]

I did it because I doubt anybody else would have.
the soundtrack or the animation :realsmug:?

[Delta4907]

And if the covenant species had halo's of their own, and they where 'blessed' by the forerunners like the Humans, why didn't they activate their 'great journey' themselves. Or for that matter go looking for more halo's in general.

Only the Prophet species wanted to go on this "great journey". The other species, such as the elites, just worshiped the forerunner artifacts. And while the other species "got halos", the Humans did not, they got a more important artifact, the portal to the Ark. This leads me to believe Humans are still the only reclaimers and are the only ones that can activate Forerunner technology.

[FireDragon04]

Only the Prophet species wanted to go on this "great journey". The other species, such as the elites, just worshiped the forerunner artifacts. And while the other species "got halos", the Humans did not, they got a more important artifact, the portal to the Ark. This leads me to believe Humans are still the only reclaimers and are the only ones that can activate Forerunner technology.

That's what i am now led to believe yeah, that the Humans where 'special' in the forerunners eyes and they decided to make them the reclaimers, but also still keep the population of this galaxy alive after the halo's where activated. I do appreciate it alot more now, hints at the war which i guess will be explained alot more in the new Halo novels (Forerunner).

[Kalub]

So hey, this was a pretty sweet short flick, are there any more?

[Arteen]

I liked it, but one thing bothered me.

The halo rings ended up at all of the covenant species home worlds?
I thought that was just artistic liberty, since Cortana is just "filling in the gaps". She doesn't know what the Forerunners look like, or the distribution of the Halos, or anything like that. All she knows is the general story of the Forerunners. The visuals are there just to have something to look at; they aren't canon.

[ICEE]

Also is it not possible that the halos could move after firing, or that the force of them firing would throw them off course into space somewhere, so that they wouldn't be aligned with the covenant homeworlds?

[Kalub]

Bunny asking a question here:


So hey, this was a pretty sweet short flick, are there any more?



And wtf is with all the "canon" in the posts. Wordfilters?

[sdavis117]

Canon means something that is actually in the story. It's slightly a stupid term, considering most everything except for Parodies and FanFics could be considered canon, so they should have just made a term for stuff that is not canon.

As for more of this, don't bother, other than The Package, everything else so far is shit, and The Package only gets a pass because it looked cool.

Even though I must say that other than the voice acting (Jen Taylor would have been the obvious choice for this), this new one isn't so bad. Can't wait to see part 2 of it.

[kid908]

Who reprogrammed Cortana's Voice!?:gonk:

It's progressively getting better from the horrid first 2 episode... but not alot.

E: I'm confuse about their timeline, anyone know when everything is happening and I do not like the forerunner design. *sigh*

They should have just retold the halo pc, halo 2, and halo 3 story in 3 movies. That's something I would pay to watch.

EE: Aren't bubble shields covie? when did humans get active camo? What FPS are the drawn one playing at 3 f/s, it looked quite bad. If that's what a 60 yr old looks like in the future, sign me up for the future.

I lawl'd at the First Person view in ep 3. Reminds me of doom the movie.

[Kalub]

I hate you guys. Got my panties all twisted for one episode...

[sdavis117]

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Happy Kalub?

[Kalub]

FUCK YASE YOU ARE WIN I WILL NAME PERFORM THE CEREMONIOUS "FRIENDLY-NOT-AWKWARD-AT-ALL-HUG-WHILST-CUPPING-YOUR-BALLS" CEREMONY.

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[Kornman00]

Yeah, I agree about the voice acting. If 343 was serious about this being canon, they would have coughed up the fucking halo dough you know they have to get Jen and Steve to record some gat damn lines hich they then could have given to the anime makers for final production. Jesus.

[Kalub]

Yea... the first one was ok, and the one on the forerunners... but the rest blow

[Kornman00]

Anyone else watch the DVD yet?

The "odd man out" episode was as they said...a joke. It was a mix between what I can only guess as DBZ, Pokemon and of course a little bit of Halo. It looked like a typical anime show that's for sure.

I just realized that in The Package, they all salute with their left hands...nice going. Oh and in Prototype he says "over and out"....it's just "out", no "over".

[thehoodedsmack]

Like it's been said before, if it's going to be considered canon, it shouldn't be taken word for word, movement for movement, but rather like any Hollywood movie "based on a true story". There are too many inconsistencies otherwise.

[DEElekgolo]

They all suck.
Except orgins.
That was kind of cool.

[Siliconmaster]

I liked Origins, and Prototype was sort of cool. There were some good, some bad, some bizarre. In the end we decided it would work best as a drinking game. Every time the narrator says "COVENANT" in his bold overepic voice, or every time they make a ridiculously blatant reference to one of the games, take a shot. You'll be so hammered by the end you won't care if it sucks or not. :downs:

[sleepy1212]

holy shit, i made it to pg22 before i got sick of the love/hate anime bs and went to last page 50!!? :gonk:

it's like $20 at walmart...yay or nay?

[teh lag]

I wouldn't buy it. There are so many better uses for $20 - like buying dvds of something consistently good - that unless you NEED to have this I think it would be a waste.

[Kornman00]

Unless you're a collector of Halo stuffs...I wouldn't put money into it. Unless an HD version was selling for 10$. Maybe. That may be the collector in me talking though so just ignore me.

[Heathen]

I wouldn't buy it. There are so many better uses for $20 - like buying dvds of something consistently good - that unless you NEED to have this I think it would be a waste.

or buying blank DVD's.

[sleepy1212]

well, i just got back from the store. I bought a nice warm hoodie instead - winter clothes are on sale this time of year.

Besides, it's a $3.99 rental on ON Demand.

So guess after i watch it i can answer the question: which is better...Halo Legends or a discount hoodie? :v:


E: HOODIE ftw