AT&T Blacklists /b/. Internet currently flipping the fuck out.

[ExAm]

I don't go to /b/, but what the shit (http://www.reddit.com/r/reddit.com/comments/94pf2/att_is_now_blocking_all_access_to_img4chanorg/).

This does not bode well.

[CN3089]

Good. :realsmug:

[Roostervier]

what the fuck, i use att : |

brb switchin isps (dont care about 4chan but this is going to go down a bad road)

[ThePlague]

Heh. Finally someone's taking charge. /mobileporn

[flibitijibibo]

What did they filter it under (http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=websense)?

[teh lag]

SAVE US TED STEVENS

(this is bull****)

((preparing myself for the era of internet censorship))

[Limited]

I dont use AT&T. I dont use /b/, and personally dont care for /b/.

However this fucking sucks, who the hell do AT&T think they are? Its not up to them to censor the Internet.

I mean, theres more than just porn on /b/, right?

[n00b1n8R]

Hey guys, I go to /b/ several times a day. :iamafag:
Also, fuck internet censorship hurf durf

[Ifafudafi]

I'm guessing there's a little clause in the AT&T contract that its users accept which states that they have the authority to deny access to sites, which pretty much makes any argument invalid, unless you can throw a 1st Amendment at them, which'll take forever to properly affect anything.

Likely, /b/ will spam the shit out of AT&T representatives until they get bored or AT&T changes something. Guess which one will happen first.

Of course, I do indeed think this is bullshit, and am currently composing a well-written, angry e-mail to send off.

[English Mobster]

I saw the thread on /g/ (Technology) a few minutes ago. Bunch of /b/tards going in there right now and whining about it.
Thread going on about it on /b/, too. Iphone users and anyone using AT&T 3G can get on, but landlines are a no-go. Not sure how much longer it'll be until it spreads to 3G, too.
Basically, any servers filed under img.4chan.org (the infamous /b/ and the actually not bad /r9k/) are blocked.

I'm glad they chose 4chan first, not because I hate the guys on /b/ (I pop in there every now and then, too, mostly to try to get a quick laugh), but because I know /b/ is most likely to launch a counterattack. Bunch of threads flying around right this very moment, actually, all planning some sort of retaliation. Most are promoting diplomacy and angry letters, surprisingly. I only count 1 thread trying to get people to DDOS the AT&T site.

[ultama121]

This is pretty terrible. +1 hoping for AT&T to lose this battle.

[Masterz1337]

Good.

[English Mobster]

This is pretty terrible. +1 hoping for AT&T to lose this battle.
Oh, they will. /b/ is not to be trifled with.

@ Masterz:
You may not like /b/, but this is the first step towards them censoring anything they want. Someone is publishing stuff which AT&T doesn't want you to hear about? They get blacklisted. Competitor websites (Verizon, for example)? Blacklisted.
Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile.

[NullZero]

messing with the internet hate machine on their internet?
it's more likely than you think actually, it was quite inevitable, owell, go 4chan

e:strikethrough fail :|

[ExAm]

Good.
No, it's not. If this is allowed to continue, they'll start blocking other sites we don't hate.

[Ifafudafi]

Really, all the internet needs to do in order to convince AT&T that they're being idiots is to send them a bunch of e-mails that they're changing services due to the implications of this blacklisting. If they're threatened with a large enough loss of potential profits, they'll pull back.

[Limited]

You may not like /b/, but this is the first step towards them censoring anything they want. Someone is publishing stuff which AT&T doesn't want you to hear about? They get blacklisted. Competitor websites (Verizon, for example)? Blacklisted.
Give them an inch, and they'll take a mile.

Yeah, whats next? Blocking Google because you could get porn from it? Ridiculous.

[Roostervier]

i actually want to switch isps but all i get here is att or comcast and im not switching to comcast <_<

[=sw=warlord]

if it ends in a era of censorship then i hope they ban pokemon and teletubbies...

[teh lag]

Oh, they will. /b/ is not to be trifled with.

yeah just like that time all the anonymousesses took scientology the fuck down

wait hold on

[paladin]

Thats like saying, if the US government killed all the neo-nazis or white supremacists.


Guys, there /b/neo-nazis. They deserve to censored die. AT&TUS government are heroes and we should send them thank you letters.

You're not /b/tardsnazis, are you?


NO, CN. NO.

[CN3089]

Thats like saying, if the US government killed all the neo-nazis or white supremacists.




NO, CN. NO.

First they came for the Nazis...

[sdavis117]

4chan isn't going to counter this. Everyone on 4chan who cares about this can't go to img.4chan anymore (and will probably get banned for spamming the other forums), and everyone who can still go to /b/ and /r9k/ won't do anything because they don't care.

[Boba]

i just told my parents that our isp blocked my porn site

they didn't seem to care :(

[Good_Apollo]

As much as I can agree that 4chan produces nothing of worth aside from making people believe they are eCool and ePowerful while gaining plenty of extra eWit to sprinkle on it all, I don't like censorship. Probably the biggest step backward a free society can make.


yeah just like that time all the anonymousesses took scientology the fuck down

wait hold onYou mean like ten thousand people wearing goofy masks protesting and DDoSing their website won't bring down a multibillion dollar, multimillion member organization? :smith:

Neckbeards and armchair politicians are going to need to try harder, if their numbers even allow much more effort.

[Ganon]

I'd feel so cockblocked If I had at&t

[legionaire45]

Ma Bell is watching you.

It doesn't matter who AT&T targets; just the fact that they are actively censoring the internet is bad. I hope somebody files a lawsuit over this -any company or group that engages in censorship should not be allowed to exist.

[Aerowyn]

I get my internet through a company that basically answers to AT&T but I can access /b/ perfectly fine.

But still, censorship is bad, kids.

[Masterz1337]

So do any of you think the government should not block kiddie porn sites?

[Heathen]

I dont go but thats damn fucked up.

[Phopojijo]

So do any of you think the government should not block kiddie porn sites?No...

They should take the legal route with judges and fucking horizontal/vertical accountability.

And it should honestly be about fuckin' child porn... else we'll creep ever closer to China's no-disguise blackout of CNN and other things they find "bad".

Seriously, watch CNN in a Chinese hotel... story occurs they don't like? It goes black... 2 minutes later it's back...

*****

And this isn't about blocking Child Porn... AT&T didn't do it nationally... they didn't claim Child Porn... they just did it because they could.

[ExAm]

/b/ isn't billed as a child porn board, and isn't dedicated to such. It does appear on it occasionally, but it hardly warrants blocking the entire thing.

[NullZero]

If someone was really after CP, it's incredibly easy to find using the Tor networks. They post CP on 4chan to troll and gain more attention

[Phopojijo]

If I'm not mistaken 4Chan bans/removes Child Porn anyway.

[Masterz1337]

Where did I say /b/ had child porn? I'm just asking if you think it's alright for that to be censored.

[Roostervier]

Why don't you actually read the post phopo made as an actual response to your question, i think thats your answer

[Ifafudafi]

Updoot

Some /b/tard found out that they didn't block it because of CP (that's just the official story).

In reality, all the newfags who have been downloading viruses and inadvertantly DDoSing 4chan are the problem. It's wrecking AT&T's bandwidth; they're blocking it to prevent that.

Whether that's better or worse, I don't know.

[Aerowyn]

Actually, so I heard that it's just Reddit being a bunch of trolls.

[Roostervier]

huh? if you mean its fake, i actually tried going to /b/ and it didnt work. |:

[Donut]

just a general fyi for everyone, since alot more people than i expected dont know this, but 4chan was originally created just to be an image upload site, and all of the /<letter here>/ parts of the site denote what kind of pictures can be found there. /b/ is for "random", and for example, /k/ is weapons

censoring a "random image" section of a site means they are censoring anything that can be considered "random". last time i checked, if i generate a random number, it can be any number. if im going to censor random numbers, then im censoring all of the numbers. and what logical reason could they possibly have for censoring 4chan's random image board? to stop kids from being desensitised? thats fine, shut down the idiots at 4chan while thousands of raunchy porn sites are free to contaminate the minds of the children, who are quite possibly those same little assfucks who backtalk their parents for half an hour asking fordemanding a chalupa.

tl;dr whats the fucking point?

[Phopojijo]

Dude, it's not a chalupa -- it's Chocolate Milk.

[InnerGoat]

Where did I say /b/ had child porn? I'm just asking if you think it's alright for that to be censored.You're getting good at this :golfclap:


huh? if you mean its fake, i actually tried going to /b/ and it didnt work. |:
4chan is always under denial of service attacks so you can't be so sure

[Donut]

Dude, it's not a chalupa -- it's Chocolate Milk.
i was making a reference to a thread i posted a few weeks ago. the "fuck kids" one that inferno thinks i stole from his "fuck dogs" thread even though i didnt :realsmug:
E: this one
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16054

[Heathen]

Where did I say /b/ had child porn? I'm just asking if you think it's alright for that to be censored.
then they should also censor limewire, torrents, and any other p2p prog by that logic.

Honestly, make a movement to do something about the site, but don't stick your head in the sand and pretend its not there.

[Syuusuke]

I think that the majority might agree to have that censored actually =P

$chan isn't under DDoS, at least not anymore (not using A tee and Tee)

4chandoesn't look as bad as I thought, but I'm not going into its depths D:

[rossmum]

Personally I'd be glad to see 4chan wiped off the internet entirely, but censorship is a terrible idea thought up by terrible people. IF this is legit and IF it's because of bandwidth issues, then fine - it's understandable and they'll probably resolve it at some point. It's not likely to spread to other sites. If it's actual censorship, though, I really hope something forces AT&T to back down. Maybe it'll help drive another nail into the coffin of Conjob Conroy's own little internet filter...

[Heathen]

http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=973

http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=974

[Ganon]

next were gonna see our homeland security turn red with this warning:

watch out for pissed off pale white nerdy pizzaface kids walking the streets near AT&T stores.

[Gwunty]

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/1/1a/Rageoriginal.jpg
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/3/3b/RAGE.jpg


http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/c/c4/Fffuuu.gif

[Sel]

Good. :realsmug:

Yeah, this.

What's the issue here?

[n00b1n8R]

Loving how most of the people who hate 4chan have hardly ever been there themselves. :allears:

4chan isn't going to counter this. Everyone on 4chan who cares about this can't go to img.4chan anymore (and will probably get banned for spamming the other forums), and everyone who can still go to /b/ and /r9k/ won't do anything because they don't care.
You have no idea how 4chan works, do you?

So do any of you think the government should not block kiddie porn sites?
They should take them on via the usual legal system, not block them.

In reality, all the newfags who have been downloading viruses and inadvertantly DDoSing 4chan are the problem. It's wrecking AT&T's bandwidth; they're blocking it to prevent that.
Why wouldn't they just come out and say that then, I'd accept that as a much more legitimate reason than the usual OMGTHEYHAVECP crap.

Personally I'd be glad to see 4chan wiped off the internet entirely
That happens for a few days, every other month.
4chan doesn't go away though, the community just moves elsewhere (/b/ shits on /x/ if it's just /b/ that's down, or everyone goes to other *chans if the whole site is offline).
4chan's legacy is here to stay, like it or not. As it stands, 4chan is actually containing the mess (I'm mainly talking about /b/ here, most of the other boards are pretty good).

PS:

Basically, any servers filed under img.4chan.org (the infamous /b/ and the actually not bad /r9k/) are blocked.
:dieslaughing:

[Heathen]

They should take them on via the usual legal system, not block them.

your becoming my favourite member fast.
I agree to the fullest extent of the word.

[Phopojijo]

You know I said that like, top of 2 pages ago, right?

[English Mobster]

:dieslaughing:
I like /r9k/. There isn't any of the normal copypasta shit there. Things get done.

[n00b1n8R]

I like /r9k/. There isn't any of the normal copypasta shit there. Things get done.
If by that you mean page 1 has 5 different but disturbingly similar "baaw" threads, then yeah it's great. :neckbeard:

[Roostervier]

Why wouldn't they just come out and say that then, I'd accept that as a much more legitimate reason than the usual OMGTHEYHAVECP crap.

I'd see it as a more legitimate reason too, but think about most of the common internet userbase. They hear at&t blocked a kiddie porn site. Not only does that sound like a "good" reason to block the site, it actually gets people on their side rather than staying neutral. Now some (stupid) people can be like, "hey my isp blocks kiddie porn what does your shitty isp do? :realsmug:" Or if someone brings it up on some news show they can ask a normal person, uneducated about any of this (read: damn near everyone), and they'd be like, "oh yeah sounds like a great thing at&t is doing."

[Heathen]

Hey, they unblocked it.

[Higuy]

Uhhhh am I supposed to not be able to see porn on 4chan or something? Because I just tried it with my iPhone (which is using at&t's 3G network atm) and I could see every damn thing on that site.

[Ifafudafi]

From the 4chan statusblog:



Here's what happened:


For the past three weeks, 4chan has been under a constant DDoS attack. We were able to filter this specific type of attack in a fashion that was more or less transparent to the end user.


Unfortunately, as an unintended consequence of the method used, some Internet users received errant traffic from one of our network switches. A handful happened to be AT&T customers.


In response, AT&T filtered all traffic to and from our img.4chan.org (http://img.4chan.org/) IPs (which serve /b (http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html)/ & /r9k (http://img.4chan.org/r9k/imgboard.html)/) for their entire network, instead of only the affected customers. AT&T did not contact us prior to implementing the block. Here is their statement regarding the matter (http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=4800&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=26970).


In the end, this wasn't a sinister act of censorship, but rather a bit of a mistake and a poorly executed, disproportionate response on AT&T's part. Whoever pulled the trigger on blackholing the site probably didn't anticipate [nor intend] the consequences of doing so.


We're glad to see this short-lived debacle has prompted renewed interest and debate over net neutrality and internet censorship—two very important issues that don't get nearly enough attention—so perhaps this was all just a blessing in disguise.


Aside from that, I'll also add that there is some big news due later this week. Keep an eye on the News (http://www.4chan.org/news) page, Twitter (http://twitter.com/4chan), and global message for updates.


As always, I can be reached at moot@4chan.org (moot@4chan.org).


---


PS: If any companies would like to hook us up with some better hardware, feel free! The architecture we've got powering this large and influential beast is really quite embarrassing. ( ._.)

[StankBacon]

lol, all the over reacting and crying for nothing.

[Terin]

Oh hell yes.

[Dwood]

/b/tard: What happen ?

/arcanine/: Somebody set up us the null'd packets.

moot: We get signal.

/b/tard: What !

moot: Main screen turn on.

/b/tard: It's You !!

AT&T: How are you gentlemen !!

AT&T: All your internets are belong to us.

AT&T: You are on the way to Great Firewall of North America.

/b/tard: What you say !! You'd best be trollin'

AT&T: You have no chance to survive make your time.

AT&T: HA HA HA HA ....

/b/tard: Take off every 'anon' !!

/b/tard: You know what you doing.

/b/tard: Move 'anon'.

/b/tard: For great justice.

[Dwood]

Oh come on.

[Heathen]

nah

[teh lag]

i'm sorry we don't find the oldest meme on the internet funny anymore

[NullZero]

rofl, you bumped your own joke

[rossmum]

:ohdear: