[WIP] Halo Shotgun

[Hunter]

Yeah, note it doesn't say Halo 3.
What does that mean? Well, it won't be some stupid replicate.

Anyway, does anyone have a side referance image of the Halo 3 shotgun - which basically shits on what I said above - which I can use to the basic shape and style for my shotgun?

I have got red rings on my xbox so I can't get one, I have done the towel trick, 8 times to be precise. Think I melted the graphics card or something because it only lasts 2 minutes when i do the trick now.

(Will update this post with renders when done, need reference first!)

Waits for someone to reply saying no... if you do I will beat your ass :)

29/08/2009;
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_1.jpg

30/08/2009;
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_2.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_3.jpg

What can I do with the pump Snaf? And can anyone thing of ways to make it look better. And please don't tell me to change the sights too much, I like them Lol. That is the first custom thing I have ever done. Btw, I think I will put a red cross in the middle of the sight like the ODST SMG has.

[SnaFuBAR]

i guess you forgot your own post :lolugh:


http://www.modacity.net/forums/showpost.php?p=418831&postcount=20

[Inferno]

Why the fuck would you do that stupid ass towel trick. It's probably the worst thing you can do. Overheating it will not reflow the fucking GPU/CPU. Hurf.

[Hunter]

I don't like those black and white reference pictures, I preffer game footage.

And is there another way Inferno?

[Rentafence]

Why the fuck would you do that stupid ass towel trick. It's probably the worst thing you can do. Overheating it will not reflow the fucking GPU/CPU. Hurf.

I've done it. Didn't have problems for 2 straight months. It's better than buying a new one because your warranty expired.

[Hunter]

Requested a repair order anyway. Lets end this discussion here Lol. I aint posted pictures yet for crit and getting close to two pages.

[Inferno]

Ah. If your in warranty then it's fine but if you were out of warranty you would want to get the board reflowed. And if you can't do that then you would want to heatgun it. The heatgun thing is as close to a reflow as you can get without the machine.

[Hunter]

3 years warrenty with red rings.

[Limited]

I'll go in game and get some if you want.

Heres one for now:

http://images.wikia.com/halo/images/e/e6/M90_Shotgun_%28Torch_Side%29.jpg

You sure it will be custom?

Edit: So what views do you want? Front, Side, Top?

[Hunter]

Partly, and as much as I can or see fit. Lol.

When its finished you can always give me some things to change, as long as it looks good. 4K limit.

[Roostervier]

If it's a halo shotgun and not halo 3, then why don't you use the h1 or h2 shotguns for reference instead?

Anyway, I'll upload the ones I took a long time ago. I'll post later

[Hunter]

Using Halo 3 one because it has better detail and stuff.

[Limited]

Link didnt work >_>

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Screenshots.aspx?player=Limited55

[Roostervier]

http://refs.projectiris.net/h3_shottie/

the refs i took

[Hunter]

Cheers guys. That should do. :)

[Hunter]

Check first post.

[Advancebo]

Add a grenade launcher

[Limited]

Holy crap you modelled that quickly, looking good so far. By the way, what modelling technique do you use.

[BobtheGreatII]

Holy crap you modeled that quickly

:ugh:

[SnaFuBAR]

Nice incomplete halo 3 shotgun. The pump looks terrible btw.

[paladin]

The handle looks too small.

[Hunter]

I plane modelled it. And yeah, looks like Halo 3 Shotgun atm. Maing it more custom wgen I have a decent basic shape.

I will work on the pump and the grip area needs seriouse work.

[Hunter]

30/08/2009;
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_2.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_3.jpg

What can I do with the pump Snaf? And can anyone thing of ways to make it look better. And please don't tell me to change the sights too much, I like them Lol. That is the first custom thing I have ever done. Btw, I think I will put a red cross in the middle of the sight like the ODST SMG has.

4,040 Triangles. Parts can still be optimized though.

[ODX]

I'd suggest doing something like a Spas12 pump, where it's not completely even underneath:
http://althouseonline.com/websitephotos/shootingvideos/spas12.JPG

[Hunter]

I can't see that looking good with the design of the halo shotgun.

[Roostervier]

the pump isnt the only thing you have to worry about. the gun looks okayish in 3p save for the pump, but in fp it looks terrible. especially the loading port and back end of the receiver (not sure if thats the right term) that comes before the stock.

[ODX]

I can't see that looking good with the design of the halo shotgun.I suggested the general shape, not the actual pump itself.

[Hunter]

Didnt really work on the back end because you won't see it much, but I could do with adding afew polies in near the "loading port?" because of the siloutte.

[teh lag]

The transition from the gun to the stock is... not ok. You can do better than that. Maybe the lighting is making it look worse than it actually is; I think you need to clean up that area and make the transition smoother though.

[Hunter]

Instead of one thick bar going through the stock and the main gun, how about having 2 bars, and the stock a bit further back, and maybe the stock being a tad bit smaller?

[teh lag]

I'm referring to the actual modeling implementation rather than the design. It's very rough and uneven. I hesitate to say "unnatural" as it's not a "natural" object, but that's the only word I can think of to describe it. In real life, most objects don't have sudden angles jutting out of surfaces that are otherwise smooth (I am referring specifically to the bottom of the area that connects the gun to the stock). "Poorly defined" would also work.

I have no problem with the concept you have now (or what you just proposed for that matter) but it needs to be done cleaner, whatever you do.

[Hunter]

Smoothened it out, have I understood what you ment correctly?

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_4.jpg

Got it down to 3574 triangles as well.

[ThePlague]

imo it looks bulgy. You should put it on a diet and thin it out like h1's shotgun. The trigger area looks kind of weird too.

[Ganon]

Besides being "bugly" lol...(It actually looks heavy) this is very cool.

[Hunter]

I want it look bulky. :) Makes it look meaner.

And I need to do something about the trigger gaud, its ugly.

[Inferno]

Yeah. The halo 1 shotgun is a bit small. Hunters shotgun looks like it would take your fucking arm off when you fired it.

Which is a very good thing.

[Hunter]

The sights look okay?
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/test2.jpg
With glow (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_5.jpg)

Ignore the smoothing errors, I think its the shadows.

[Roostervier]

get rid of the light, so we can see. from what i can manage to see, though, they look bad.

e: and import the h1 model so you can see how the loading port is actually supposed to look. you never fixed it, and with the way its modeled, you seem to not understand what its supposed to look like.

[Advancebo]

Do it a bit like this one
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc292/Advancebo/bit.jpg

Yours looks like it would block the view.

[Limited]

E: Who edited my post?

[Hunter]

Dunno, and :( I like them Lol. And how do they block your view? Shotgun sights, well, Halo shotgun sights don't really need to be accurate seems as the gun isnt accurate as well.
Just needs a basic aim.

The one you posted Advancebo blocks your view more than mine does Lol, Mine doesn't have a big ring over the top. It has half of one.

[Advancebo]

But I like the front of it ):

[SnaFuBAR]

The pump action doesn't look like something you could really hold onto. It's very awkward and i suggest you just start it over. Way too many ribs, way too close together, and way too large.

[Mass]

I agree with snaf, the pump looks too fat and way over-padded

[Hunter]

Dam it, I just got the scene ready to unwrap. Then refreshed the page and saw your posts Lol. I will remodel the pump.

Edit: I have actually got a nice looking pump coming along here, will add pictures soon. It goes with the style of the ribs above the pump.

[Hunter]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/Shotgun_h3_6.jpg

How does that look? I think it makes it look weaker though, anything I could add or change?

Also, is it really a good idea to have the flash light and laser sight attachments attached to the pump?

And yes, adding trigger and fixing trigger guard now. Forgot about that Lol.
3,888 Triangles.

[ODX]

I still think your handle looks a bit too small in comparison to the other gun.

Can I make a quick origin with the gun to see?

[SnaFuBAR]

Looks a lot better this way. The pump is unique but try and work on it a bit more.

[Hunter]

I still think your handle looks a bit too small in comparison to the other gun.

Can I make a quick origin with the gun to see?
I will render a side image so you can compare it with images, because I don't want to start uploading it and stuff.

Edit:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/sideview_shotgun_h3-1.png


Looks a lot better this way. The pump is unique but try and work on it a bit more.

Cheers. What else can I do to it though?

[SnaFuBAR]

You could play with the proportions.

[Hunter]

Okay. Watching "Outlander" first :)

[jngrow]

I just want to say, this is one of the best "changes shit, gets crit, changes shit, gets crit, model slowly gets better, nobody has a hissy fit" thread I have ever seen (or maybe i havent been paying enough attention). Keep up the good work. This thread should serve as an example for all studio threads.

[Hunter]

Final Renders:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/top_final_shotgun_h3.jpg (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/top_final_shotgun_h3.jpg)http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/side_final_shotgun_h3.jpghttp://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/front_back_view_shotgun_h3.jpg (http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/front_back_view_shotgun_h3.jpg)http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/perspective_final_shotgun_h3.jpg

First Person:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/h3_shotgun_fp.jpg
(Not the best origins)

Wireframe:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/shotgun_h3_wireframe.jpg

And 2d render thingy Lol:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/flat_render_shotgun_h.jpg

3942 Triangles.

[ODX]

First Person:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g268/martynball/h3_shotgun_fp.jpg
(Not the best origins)The loading port looks strange, curved I believe. Make it flat, and study a bit more on the Halo 3 shotgun (if you have the beta model). I know it'll have a skin (right?) but it still will be noticeable, because most every shotgun origin shows it.

However, I really do love the bulky feel of it.

[Hunter]

Cheers, and I wanted the loading port to look curved, I should add another edge actually to make it smoother. And I will add the ejection port when unwrapping because I will need to unwrap half then add it to the other half.

[NuggetWarmer]

It should be flat. :)

[Cortexian]

Try something like:
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/350/flatrendershotgunadjust.jpg

Only less bad.

(It's an adjustable/collapsible stock)

[Hunter]

Wouldn't really suit it, well, it might. Will give it a go, want to add some things to this pelican first :)

[ODX]

The actual design is nice, but it looks a bit weak so it kind of takes away one of the possible melee methods (which I do most of the time).

[Huero]

Well, if you add the collapsible stock it'll mix up the design, which,
even though yours looks pretty damn good to the untrained eye, it'll make it look less like a generic M90.

[Advancebo]

Did you use boolean for the indentations on the front part of the shotgun?

[Hunter]

Did you use boolean for the indentations on the front part of the shotgun?

No, shift and drag and chamfer.

[Advancebo]

k.