Halo PC/CE now just that bit more safe from piracy!

[Cortexian]

So you know that "Halo Keygen" that's been floating around? The one that cycles through eight legit cd keys that were shared way back when? Well I was finally able to get all eight globally banned via the gamespy master server, take that you cd-key-already-in-use-join-spamming-cheatersfaggots!


thanks for the tip! Gamespy sent me the URL to ban keys way back when, but I never used it. Looks like they banned 6 of these on their own shortly after we shipped, but I was able to ban the other 2 for the first time, along with a few others that Gamespy reported were being abused.

If you've got more shared keys that you'd like globally banned, post them here and I'll let Sawnose know!

THIS THREAD IS ALSO HELPING CEREBRUM. POST ANY ILLEGAL KEYS TO KEEP THE STATS CLEAN!

[Ganon]

http://alltopmovies.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/batman.jpg

[Jelly]

ganon can I borrow your key?

Also I'm fairly sure that all the pirate servers have the cd key check disabled.

[Inferno]

Why are you so butt hurt over pirates FL?

[Higuy]

why ban them, that just means less players.. :smith:

[cheezdue]

why ban them, that just means less players.. :smith:

.

[Heathen]

why ban them, that just means less players.. :smith:

I'd rather not play than play with poor pieces of shit.

Halo PC at my local walmart is 5 dollars.
$5

If these broke ass stoolpies cant even pay that to play the game, they don't deserve to dominate a terrible player like me.

[flibitijibibo]

Heh, stoolpies. Haven't heard that before.

Heathen's totally right though. Even near-broke college students (many of us now) can afford to get a game for 5 stupid dollars. Food costs more than that, man.

[Dwood]

Heh, stoolpies. Haven't heard that before.

Heathen's totally right though. Even near-broke college students (many of us now) can afford to get a game for 5 stupid dollars. Food costs more than that, man.

I'll start eating my Halo Disks now then!

[Needles]

I'll start eating my Halo Disks now then!
Still $20-30 at my local wal-marts and targets and gamestops :saddowns:
Going on my 4th copy now, my little brohter keeps breaking my CDs but then 1.8 came out :)

[jcap]

Ask if they can prohibit clients 1.0 and 1.04 (THOSE ONLY!) from querying the server list. Heh.

Actually, just block the servers from talking to Gamespy on those versions. Then you don't need to worry about clients since there will be no list.

[dark navi]

Still $20-30 at my local wal-marts and targets and gamestops :saddowns:
Going on my 4th copy now, my little brohter keeps breaking my CDs but then 1.8 came out :)

Start selling those CD keys.

[Cortexian]

Ask if they can prohibit clients 1.0 and 1.04 (THOSE ONLY!) from querying the server list. Heh.

Actually, just block the servers from talking to Gamespy on those versions. Then you don't need to worry about clients since there will be no list.
Will do!

I asked him if he could ban via hash so that I could give him some hashes from my Devicator database that have a bajjillion names associated with them:

I need to figure that part out; I don't currently know how to correlate the key with the hash that appears in the ban file, so I'll have to dig through the source.

I have to be careful about that from a policy perspective, though: if someone files an official complaint with Microsoft that they were banned, I don't think I can cite "community volunteers" as a legally valid source of ban data. When you give me the CD key, that's actual proof (or, put another way, if posessing the CD key makes you its owner, then you just asked me to ban 8 copies that you own, and I obliged :-)

anyway, the Gamespy site automatically tracks keys that are being used from multiple IPs and I can continue to ban the notable offenders based on that, so don't trouble yourself over it.

thanks,

Roger

Also, I'm testing the waters with my latest message to him... Lets see what kind of a reaction he has to what we, the community, mainly Rec0, Kornman, etc, have been able to do to the dedicated server in terms of the Devicator. I'd like to see if he's for researching the game like this or not, though since Halo CE is mainly Gearboxes game I'm not sure he'll much care.

[n00b1n8R]

I was just about to get the update changer too. :mad:

[Dwood]

Lancer, I asked him something like that, and he said that he isn't allowed to help the community with things like Opensauce, Devicator, etc.

[jcap]

Thanks for asking about blocking the versions. They can effectively eliminate probably 95% of the piracy by doing that. I'm not saying that everyone who plays the game uses those older versions, but rather that most of the people who DO pirate the game play on those versions.


Lancer, I asked him something like that, and he said that he isn't allowed to help the community with things like Opensauce, Devicator, etc.
We're not asking for support here. It's not his job to support third-party "hacks" (if you want to call them) for the game. Freelancer was asking more for his opinion on them. I'm curious as well of his reaction to these things, especially with regard to OpenSauce. (PS: Hire Kornman)

[Inferno]

Freelancer don't be a idiot. If you get him to disable 1.00 and 1.04 you would be the sole person responsible for killing Halo CE.

You would not only eliminate 95% of the pirates. You would eliminate 95% of the player base.

[Heathen]

like I said, I'd rather play with 3 or 4 people than play with a bunch of shithead pirates.

[Higuy]

like I said, I'd rather play with 3 or 4 people than play with a bunch of shithead pirates.
Thats you, I bet more people would rather have more then a 100 player base. There's over a 1000 in 1.00 and 1.04 combined, and getting rid of those would drop. Halo CE is still 20 dollars at my Gamestop, and my local walmart dosent even sell it.
e: just opened 1.00 in version change, still almost 900 players.

[Hunter]

Why should people deserve to play a game and have fun when they have not earned it?

[sdavis117]

Some of the people playing 1.00 and 1.04 actually own the game and are only playing the older versions so that they can play with other people. Removing the option to play in 1.00 or 1.04 would force those people to update to 1.08.

Also, I once reinstalled HCE and decided to put in a UI that didn't check for updates before I updated it to 1.08, just to see what the 1.00 community was like, and I must say, it is full of people who either don't speak English or those who are asses. Also, I did not spot ONE custom map in the server browser (after selecting the option to show maps I don't have), so you might as well play HPC.

Edit: Yeah, I meant 1.00 between "the" and "community", not 1.08. Thanks Polar.

[Sel]

OH GOD FORBID

THEY HAVE TO UPDATE TO THE PROPER FUCKING VERSION WHICH IS NO CD AND OFFERES NO REASON FOR ANY LEGIT PLAYER TO NOT BE ON IT

[Cortexian]

All the people that legally own the game that are playing on a version other than 1.08 are only doing it because the other versions have more players due to piracy. If said versions are disabled all the people who legally own the game will update to 1.08 and increase it's player base by that much more. Legally and ethically this is the best way to go about this, if I kill Halo PC/CE in the process, awesome.

Also, no response yet to my latest message, it takes him a couple days to respond usually.

[Dwood]

Why should people deserve to play a game and have fun when they have not earned it?

Agreed.

[Omega]

They could use the version changer to get in 1.08 with their old cracked 1.00 exe. Server side they download the fixed 1.08 server executable that fixes the current exploits in halo.. which additionally also disables version check and cd key check. All of these are public programs/tools that already exist. You're only forcing them to use these tools.

In short you're welcoming pirates to 1.08. Maybe to 1.09 as well if these programs get updated.

I'm against pirating halo - it's cheap. So don't just suddenly block these versions without thinking of all the consequences, since halo ce dying is not the only one.

[Dwood]

Why aren't there more people in 1.08 then?

[Omega]

Why aren't there more people in 1.08 then?

Because they're lazy and what they have now is a lot simpler. They probably think there's also no advantage at all to move to 1.08. That's partly true because it is more difficult from them to play on 1.08 (they have to know about the workarounds - and I think most don't even have a clue they exist). Plus server operations would need to host the modified exe.

[Rosco]

Well perhaps if the playerbase was combined CE would get the support they promised if the game ever reached 1k players? :|

[p0lar_bear]

We had proven that CE had over 1000 players. the HIV server logged many, MANY unique product IDs. However, this was AFTER the window of opportunity had closed.

[Cortexian]

The publicly available patch for 1.08 by BrandiniMP that fixes the additional security holes DOESN'T include the cdkey nullification stuff, at least that's what he told me.

[chrisk123999]

Most dedicated servers on 1.00 are 1.08 dedi exe's modified to show up on 1.00 instead of 1.08. It also is set to not send the player cd-keys to gamespy. So blocking them on gamespy will probably do nothing.

[jcap]

Most dedicated servers on 1.00 are 1.08 dedi exe's modified to show up on 1.00 instead of 1.08. It also is set to not send the player cd-keys to gamespy. So blocking them on gamespy will probably do nothing.
Yeah, and that's why they should block those versions. Freelancer, make that another point. The majority of the servers don't even have the Gamespy validation, so blocking the keys is pointless. It's best to render those servers completely useless.

[Cortexian]

Alright, I sent him another message detailing that most 1.00 and 1.04 servers are cracked 1.07/1.08 servers displaying as 1.00/1.04. I also included the facts about cracked servers now sending cdkey information to gamespy for validation, so the only way to thwart them is too block 1.00/1.04 server listing.

[Cortexian]

Sorry, no.

People who didn't purchase the game don't deserve to play, sorry!

[Dwood]

Meh... Idk at this point... I would rather them play 1.08 and be legal but some of us are grabbing at people to expand the player base.... The only person losing money is Bungie so why do we care? Oh yeah that's because people with legal keys play in 1.00//1.04...

Idk tbqh.

[jcap]

The reason the outdated versions have players is not because of piracy. It's because everyone would have to move at once or else they won't be playing with their friends, and the faggots are just too lazy to do that. If they're forced to all migrate at once, then the same population you see on the old version will be on the new one.

[Donut]

is it just me or does it seem like there is a high concentration of spanish people in 1.00 with stolen copies of halo pc and ce? it kind of throws the ping imo

[Sel]

is it just me or does it seem like there is a high concentration of spanish people in 1.00 with stolen copies of halo pc and ce? it kind of throws the ping imo

Because everyone on 1.00 is a mexican.

[Kornman00]

Because everyone on 1.00 is a mexican.
Careful, if one melees you you could get swine flu :ohdear:

[Cortexian]

I've been playing this game since release, the people playing on 1.00 and 1.04 shouldn't be. If I can be of assistance to the last remaining "dev" we have in banning these pirates (which I'm sure he's not a fan of) I will be. Why are you guys complaining that I'm wasting my time? I've put (maybe) 10 minutes of total time into my messages to him, it's not like I'm wasting my life away devoting it to vanquishing evil-doers from the internet.

[Sel]

Because everyone on 1.00 is a mexican.

I was completely serious with this statement, and if you don't believe me go play on 1.00. I'm not fucking joking around here at all, the entire playerbase is mexicans.

So hry why don't you get your shit straight before you even touch the rep system again. Ok, thanks.

[Kaishounashi]

I'm not fucking joking around here at all, the entire playerbase is mexicans.

well.. more like mexican+south american if you want to nitpick.


It'd be nice to have a bigger playerbase, but we'd be sacrificing quallity for quantity (and the quality of the current players is dubious at best). I like HCE as much as anyone here, but the only people left are either elitist fuckheads (you know, the ones that type 'headshot' every chance they get or can't stop ROFL'ing anytime you might actually kill them since they can only attribute their deaths to a lucky shot) or people who love to play nothing but stock maps.

I still can't figure out what it is about BG that never fails to attract people like flies to stink...

[king_nothing_]

Freelancer don't be a idiot. If you get him to disable 1.00 and 1.04 you would be the sole person responsible for killing Halo CE.

You would not only eliminate 95% of the pirates. You would eliminate 95% of the player base.

I don't really care about people pirating, but...

Why would we give a shit about killing the player base of the old versions? Almost everyone here and in the various other CE communities plays on 1.08. Also, as already pointed out, killing the old versions would actually result in an increase of the 1.08 player base. How would disabling them kill CE? You think the life of this game relies on those old versions? What...? The state of the game has always been gauged based on the player base of the current version.

[SnaFuBAR]

Why would we give a shit about killing the player base of the old versions? Almost everyone here and in the various other CE communities plays on 1.08. Also, as already pointed out, killing the old versions would actually result in an increase of the 1.08 player base. How would disabling them kill CE? You think the life of this game relies on those old versions? What...? The state of the game has always been gauged based on the player base of the current version.

this man is right. all arguments for 1.00 are null and void.

[Timo]

So you can't DC to pirated servers when you're banned from the master server?

[jcap]

You'll always be able to direct connect to a server. That's why I made mention about not listing any of the 1.0 and 1.04 servers. The game would still work for directly connecting and LAN, but it would not provide a server list.

I really want to change the direction of this thread back to finding CD keys. If you can find a LEGIT Halo CD key that is not on that list, post it here. (+rep for posts)

I was planning on making a thread similar to this eventually. We need to blacklist all the CD keys ourselves from our system (and to add to the global banlist). Then, no keys can slip through the cracks.

[sdavis117]

I'm more for getting rid of people using 1.00 and 1.04 being able to retrieve a server list so that we can get some of the legit owners of CE from those versions to 1.08.

[klange]

I'm more for getting rid of people using 1.00 and 1.04 being able to retrieve a server list so that we can get some of the legit owners of CE from those versions to 1.08.
This.

I think it would be awesome if they replaced the real server list with a list of fake server entries that said "PLEASE UPGRADE TO 1.08"

[Higuy]

hi
can we just force make them all go to 1.08 somehow instead of banning them
bye

[.Wolf™]

I got a better idea

Everytime they try to pirate it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI - This happens!







DONT COPY THAT FLOPPY!

[Kornman00]

No, they should play the poop version

4udYSxuyszo

[n00b1n8R]

Or you could do TCTF2 when it comes out in a few days :v:
fHaAFqoVLtI

[the1]

I payed AU$24 just today... it seriously isn't that expensive XD

[Phopojijo]

Or you could do TCTF2 when it comes out in a few days :v:
fHaAFqoVLtI
Wow, they were serious...

[Higuy]

lololol
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff260/showbizfluffy/version100ce.jpg

[Heathen]

Why should people deserve to play a game and have fun when they have not earned it?
or even fucking bought it.
They have nothing to lose by updating if they legitimately own the game.

OH GOD FORBID

THEY HAVE TO UPDATE TO THE PROPER FUCKING VERSION WHICH IS NO CD AND OFFERES NO REASON FOR ANY LEGIT PLAYER TO NOT BE ON IT

[jcap]

Ugh just cut the debate already.

Search for CD keys that aren't listed in my post. We need it for the stats project.

[king_nothing_]

I really wish you wouldn't have posted those. Someone joined our server yesterday who was probably using one of them. He joins with one of those fucked up names that breaks the server app (puts parts of his name in his score on the F1 screen). He has no other names in the DB, yet knows all about the server app and that it's called Devicator. I tell him he needs to change his name because he's going to break the app. He ignores me, and keeps rejoining with different name variations, trying to break the app. I tell him to change his name or I'm kicking him. He replies "Ban me, I have no key :)". Then he finally breaks the app, and I have to restart the server.

Hilarious.

[StankBacon]

wow nice...

[supersniper]

gotta luv dose nubs

[Rosco]

I really wish you wouldn't have posted those. Someone joined our server yesterday who was probably using one of them. He joins with one of those fucked up names that breaks the server app (puts parts of his name in his score on the F1 screen). He has no other names in the DB, yet knows all about the server app and that it's called Devicator. I tell him he needs to change his name because he's going to break the app. He ignores me, and keeps rejoining with different name variations, trying to break the app. I tell him to change his name or I'm kicking him. He replies "Ban me, I have no key :)". Then he finally breaks the app, and I have to restart the server.

Hilarious.

oh

lol server trollers, you'd think people have more to do than join servers on a random key just to be a moron.

[tythespy]

He joins with one of those fucked up names that breaks the server app (puts parts of his name in his score on the F1 screen). He has no other names in the DB, yet knows all about the server app and that it's called Devicator. and I have to restart the server.

happens once a month on my sever, just ban and restart - not a big deal to go without apps for a day

-e lol theirs 17 Haloallnames hack in my app database, taged and banned

[Limited]

If said versions are disabled all the people who legally own the game will update to 1.08 and increase it's player base by that much more.You cannot assume users will do anything. Your leading yourself down a dark alleyway doing so.


The publicly available patch for 1.08 by BrandiniMP that fixes the additional security holes DOESN'T include the cdkey nullification stuff, at least that's what he told me.
Um, it did contain it because I found it in your server and the exe. The way I found it in your server is irrelevant, but thanks to Brandini even more people are getting into 1.08 servers with no CD keys.


If I can be of assistance to the last remaining "dev" we have in banning these pirates (which I'm sure he's not a fan of) I will be. Why are you guys complaining that I'm wasting my time? I've put (maybe) 10 minutes of total time into my messages to him, it's not like I'm wasting my life away devoting it to vanquishing evil-doers from the internet.
No, but you are probably irritating and wasting Rogers time. Hes not a dumb person, he understands it alot more than you. The only difference is "community knowledge" that we have over him. But its not his job to fix our faults.

[Cortexian]

happens once a month on my sever, just ban and restart - not a big deal to go without apps for a day

-e lol theirs 17 Haloallnames hack in my app database, taged and banned
Can you pass those over, it's annoying me greatly.