[WIP] Delta Towers

[Inferno]

Snafubar finished depoly'ing and fixing the model yesterday and I started unwrapping a few pieces today.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/images/delta_update1.jpg

Maybe Delta Halo UI is a bit closer than we all thought.

:downs:

[HDoan]

I love you guys in a heterosexual way.

[Invader Veex]

Maybe Delta Halo UI is a bit closer than we all thought.


I'm afraid to get my hopes up. :ohdear:

[Sel]

touche

[the1]

that looks like that halo 2 map :D!!! nice job. snaf and inferno FTW!

[Heathen]

Cool beans.

[Ganon]

not sure if care anymore

[AAA]

Maybe Delta Halo UI is a bit closer than we all thought.

:downs:


Ouch. Hopes are just as low as when I forgot about it.

[Timo]

oh god i'm so excited for the 10th time :downsdance:

[SnaFuBAR]

Should be a really fun, all around map. I improved the model for gameplay as Inferno suggested. What you can't see here are all the cover items.

[n00b1n8R]

Snaf can't release a finished map guys, Delta UI is never coming out, don't kid yourselves.

[SnaFuBAR]

oh it's happening, man, it's happening.

[TeeKup]

I want to get excited. But there's a tumor over the excitement sensors in my brain preventing that. I got said tumor from the aforementioned 10 times by Timo.

>_>

[English Mobster]

This mean you're going to start to get back to work on the rest of the Infernal Map Pack? :saggy:

[Inferno]

This mean you're going to start to get back to work on the rest of the Infernal Map Pack? :saggy:

At long last. Correct.


edit-

I NEED REFERENCE PICTURES! I'm a bit lost trying to texture the support structures under the map. There complex and I can't figure out where to put the strips.
Can someone with H2V get a high rez video and send it to me or just a bunch of screenies of the section of delta halo where you fight the 2 hunters that come out of the space ship and land on the thing floating in the water. The place right before you get on the boats that go across the water and you do the boss battle.

edit 2-

It's friday. I think a gameplay test is indeed necessary.

[Sel]

I can upload it to the hcel if you need a server.

Unless you'd rather use gaylancers!

[Jean-Luc]

edit 2-

It's friday. I think a gameplay test is indeed necessary.
I'll play! :neckbeard:

[SnaFuBAR]

Let's do this.

[Cortexian]

Can participate?

Can provide server, as Yuki so avidly pointed out!

[ThePlague]

ohey?

[Inferno]

Beta coming soon. Get on xfire and AIM guys.

I just finished running ultra low lightmaps.

[Cortexian]

Well, that was horrible.

[Ganon]

map layout is really bad, had some fun to it though.

[Inferno]

Yeah I'm already making massive changes. Adding a few doors and teleporters. Etc Etc Etc.

[Sever]

I can already tell you that it needs some height variance. The whole playspace is all on the same level.

[Ganon]

ssɐɯ: in my opinion the best maps make proper use of vertical spaceQFT people

[Inferno]

I've got something planned.

[Inferno]

Changelog:

-Red base removed and moved to the building connecting it to the rest of the map.
-2 doors added to the new red base. The original door was widened to make room for players to actually get through it.
-Teleporters added at the corners between bases. They take you across the map to the symmetrical side.
-Removed 2 useless hallways.
-Fixed left entrance to blue base.
-Added a middle entrance to blue base. So there are now 3 in total.
-Fixed small other things and various model issues.

[Inferno]

I need beta testers. We've hopefully fixed the main game play issues and I've also smoothed the flow around the temples a lot.

[Advancebo]

Ill beta :-3

[chrisk123999]

Ill beta :-3
.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

I'll test, maggot.

[sevlag]

willing to if not playin ODST or your favorite game

[Timo]

I'm available for the next couple of hours.

[Ganon]

ok all vs me to balance teams

[Inferno]

If your going to beta you have to talk to me on xfire hurf. That's where you get the map and server.

[Hunter]

I wil beta :P Xfire: martynball

[Timo]

Xfire: Timo1245


e: Neat I just crashed the server with my awesome connection

[Ganon]

Xfire: Timo1245


e: Neat I just crashed the server with my awesome connection

http://zgaming.net/zgshack/images/2d9t9o2u9h4a5nxrytkc.jpg

get back to me on how the fuck you managed that pose.

[Hunter]

Someone send me the map damit :( I feel left out, I just setup Halo:CE so it is playable on my computer lmao.

[chrisk123999]

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/eb63a264001fc95d82e1c9091ec68c8995fc823c.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/screenshots/chrisk123999/ss_file-eb63a264001fc95d82e1c9091ec68c8995fc823c.jpg)

Happened during the lag at the end, one second I'm shooting inferno (I think) the next I'm on the bottom of the map looking up.

[Jean-Luc]

Kicked some ass in KOTH just a minute ago. Won by over a minute :realsmug:

[Higuy]

server sucked horribly, use a dedicated next time please. if you don't have one, contact me, I have one you can use that dosent suck.

The map seemed kinda weird in balance ways to be honest. the gameplay wasn't great in slayer, everyone was too close to each other when I spawned, and Koth seemed like the only good gametype while i was there. but seriously next time use a better server for proper testing.

[Inferno]

I normally do use my dedicated server but it's broken. When I load any version of my haloceded it says my strings.dll is missing. Even though it isn't...

[Higuy]

Re-install CE. None of your maps or tags will be lost.

[paladin]

looks bad.

[Ganon]

Re-install CE. None of your maps or tags will be lost.
or just have someone send a stock dll

[Higuy]

or just have someone send a stock dll
He said it was there but CE said it wasn't. You could try that I guess but I think you'd have better luck doing a reinstall.

[Inferno]

So anyways... After snaf finishes this last change to the model I'm going to unwrap it.

I finally got back to delta halo on halo 2 xbox so I can actually do the unwrap properly. :downs:

[Disaster]

No credit for my ground skint thing you needed?

:saddowns:

[Inferno]

2Pro2Credit.

None of the UV's are final so I didn't mention it.

But yea disaster is pro texture guy.

[Disaster]

2Pro2Credit.

None of the UV's are final so I didn't mention it.

But yea disaster is pro texture guy.

:realsmug:

[Con]

http://zgaming.net/zgshack/images/2d9t9o2u9h4a5nxrytkc.jpg

get back to me on how the fuck you managed that pose.
girugamesh?

[ThePlague]

girugamesh?
Holy shit yes

[TeeKup]

girugamesh?

NO, GOD NO!

[Ganon]

CgdvhmV3Je0

i play snafuterrorism, alluhu ackbar~

[EvilLilElmo]

girugamesh?

BREAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKKKK DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

[Inferno]

Snafuterrorism > Terrorism

Snafuhrer > Fuhrer

Changelog:

More massive changes to the map.
Fixed stray spawns and removed spawns that were terrible in the beta.
Lightmaps. Real lightmaps. Lightmaps that make the map look orgasmic even though the unwrap is horrible.
Changed the sniper platform at blue base.
Added delta on top of red base.
Instance geometry? With working collision? And BSP lightmaps? In my halo? What?
Skylights in blue base. It was dark and scary in there. :saddowns:
Moved some weapons around.
Probably other stuff I forgot.

[SnaFuBAR]

Oh yeah i'll make that other geometry for the middle and the pathways, iirc with lag there is no way up. Also vines.

[Inferno]

http://video.xfire.com/154215-4.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/video/154215/)

I know what's wrong its just so damn weird looking. :raise:

INTERDIMENSIONAL CUBE ATTACK


Also. UVW and shader work has begun. The UV's shown in that vid are not final. The next beta will be soon.

[Sel]

Maybe Delta Halo UI is a bit closer than we all thought.


lmao thats a funny one inferno :) :)

[Siliconmaster]

http://video.xfire.com/154215-4.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/video/154215/)

I know what's wrong its just so damn weird looking. :raise:

INTERDIMENSIONAL CUBE ATTACK


Also. UVW and shader work has begun. The UV's shown in that vid are not final. The next beta will be soon.

Heh. Looks like something odd in the skybox. Lol. Yay for bizarre rendering errors.

[SnaFuBAR]

forerunners enjoyed magic, too~

[p0lar_bear]

Hey, great idea:

If Lightning can hurry the fuck up and do what he needs to do to floodlab (all lighting stuff, ball's out of my park, people, sorry), we release this and Floodlab as the lost map pack. :v:

[Timo]

Hey, great idea:

If Lightning can hurry the fuck up and do what he needs to do to floodlab (all lighting stuff, ball's out of my park, people, sorry), we release this and Floodlab as the lost map pack. :v:

Don't worry, as per usual the DH UI won't be included :iamafag:

[Inferno]

Don't worry, as per usual the DH UI won't be included :iamafag:


You better release DH UI when I finish this unwrap. :maddowns:

[Cortexian]

Don't worry, as per usual the DH UI won't be included :iamafag:
You better release DH UI when Inferno finishes that unwrap. :maddowns:

[Sel]

hahahaha

no timo

dont

it's not perfect enough to release ok

[SnaFuBAR]

fuck you gays :saddowns:

[FRain]

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1671/foahsfhcopy.png

[Kalub]

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1671/foahsfhcopy.png

[Kalub]

DAMN IT MECH YOU WHORE >:|

[FRain]

Just becasue I have a bushwhacker as my avatar doesn't mean i'm mech hth

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

:mech:
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1671/foahsfhcopy.png

[Ganon]

http://zgaming.net/zgshack/images/gcmbq7dpc45oviro3n4p.png

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

http://zgaming.net/zgshack/images/gcmbq7dpc45oviro3n4p.png <- Hey look, its snaf!

[FRain]

http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/customavatars/avatar155_25.gif

[SnaFuBAR]

alright alright, enough of that :|

inferno, you still want me to make that piece of scenery for the middle? get me a screen of it. either that or i can make some shit up for it.

[Inferno]

I have a picture of it but its small... Talk to me tommarow.

[SnaFuBAR]

Testing went pretty good, it looks fantastic, and we're doing some more changes to it to enhance it more.

[p0lar_bear]

Some suggestions:

1. Slice the level geometry where a pool of water is. Apply a shader with a water material to the parts underneath. It felt wierd with no splish-splash as I walked through them.

2. Put some playerclip at the itty bitty ramps where the small pools of water are. If you try to strafe out of one you get caught on the ramp.

[Inferno]

Some suggestions:

1. Slice the level geometry where a pool of water is. Apply a shader with a water material to the parts underneath. It felt wierd with no splish-splash as I walked through them.

2. Put some playerclip at the itty bitty ramps where the small pools of water are. If you try to strafe out of one you get caught on the ramp.

Already did the 2nd thing and I plan on the 1st one. That beta we played was just for game play. The map is much sexier now. As snaf has seen.

Sorry about the lack of pictures. I want to make a nice epic trailer of the final unwrap when we get there. :v:

[=sw=warlord]

I want to make a nice epic trailer of the final unwrap when we get there. :v:
I hope you let someone else choose the music because all the video's ive seen you do for trailers had horrid music.:gonk:

[Ganon]

dont worry i'll pick something nice!

[Inferno]

I've got a really good song by sabrepulse. It's tech/break. If you don't like a good tech song then your messed up.

[=sw=warlord]

dont worry i'll pick something nice!
Halo themed music mb mb?

I've got a really good song by sabrepulse. It's tech/break. If you don't like a good tech song then your messed up.
Fuck techno with a 10 foot bardge pole.
Closest thing i can stand to techno is Du Hast by Rammstein.

[Delta4907]

Halo themed music mb mb?

Fuck techno with a 10 foot bardge pole.
Closest thing i cant stand to techno is Du Hast by Rammstein.
Heh, my German teacher played that for us in class.

[p0lar_bear]

Might I recommend Blood Sugar by Pendulum?

[Ganon]

Might I recommend Blood Sugar by Pendulum?

overused

taking no further suggestions from modacity~

[Inferno]

Tech is the purest form of music IMO.

[p0lar_bear]

overused

taking no further suggestions from modacity~

blow me away by breaking bejamin it is the best song and was in halo tooo!!!!!!111

I want to fucking shoot anyone who still uses that in Halo videos.

[=sw=warlord]

Tech is the purest form of music IMO.
Tech was born from people who got addicted to listening to their dial up modems dial out.
I would suggest Halo insurrection for the music.

[Inferno]

You can trash any kind of music with logic like that.

Tech is (IMO) somewhat like classical music. You have a single person composing 3, 4 or even 7 or 8 channels of audio. This is even done in real time at chip shows (never been to one but would love to). There is plenty of mainstream tech out there but people don't generally think of it as tech. There is also hardcore tech and people stereotype it as "nerd music" which is bullshit. I have a freind who is a complete metal head who likes tech because some of it is pretty intense and well written and he doesn't trash it for being "nerdy".


edit-


blow me away by breaking bejamin it is the best song and was in halo tooo!!!!!!111

I want to fucking shoot anyone who still uses that in Halo videos.

:gonk: :gonk: :gonk:

I hate that song almost as much as public schools. As soon as I hear the intro I close the youtube tab I'm watching regardless of how good/bad the video is.

[Sel]

inferno can you change the topic title

the current one you have is misleading

I was expecting something better than revelations :smug:

[Inferno]

Inferno can you change the topic title?

The current one you have is misleading.

My mind is too tiny to comprehend how much better it is than revelations so I don't understand it.

Smug-Rebound.

:smugsome:

[Sel]

Smug-Rebound.



comin from the guy who can't comprehend why a 4 sided water plane is bad :realsmug:

[Inferno]

Hey kid. Maybe if your graphics drivers worked as well as mine we wouldn't have this problem.

:realsmug:

[Ganon]

inferno: 3
selentic: 2


first down inferno, 2 mins left in 3rd quarter.

[Sel]

Hey kid. Maybe if your graphics drivers worked as well as mine we wouldn't have this problem.

:realsmug:

Hey kid, maybe if your ability to accurately name threads was as good as mine we wouldn't have this problem.

:realsmug:

[Ganon]

interception by selentic, game tied at 3 going into the 4th quarter

[Dwood]

bookmarkin' dis thread.

[Cortexian]

Use Halo Insurrection as the UI song.

[Timo]

They're both pretty awesome considering they'll both have a bitchin' pause menu :ohboy:

[Inferno]

Hey kid, maybe if your ability to accurately name threads was as good as mine we wouldn't have this problem.

:realsmug:

My accuracy is just fine. In fact, those head shots I landed on your over sized melon must have damaged what little logic you have. The thread title makes perfect sense. Your just to incompetent to understand it.

Am I speaking clearly enough for you?

[Ganon]

inferno scores and goes for a successful onside kick. plays later he goes long for the score.

inferno leads 5 to 3 with 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter. what will sel try and pull off to take home the victory or push this into overtime?!?

[Dwood]

They're both pretty awesome considering they'll both have a bitchin' pause menu :ohboy:

Pause menus are the only reason I play new maps these days.

[Sel]

My accuracy is just fine. In fact, those head shots I landed on your over sized melon must have damaged what little logic you have. The thread title makes perfect sense. Your just to incompetent to understand it.

Am I speaking clearly enough for you?

no

:realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug:

[Ganon]

selentic goes offsides, 10 yd penatly repeat 1st down.

[Timo]

Pause menus are the only reason I play new maps these days.

What people see when they quit a map can really make or break gameplay.

[Inferno]

no

:realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug: :realsmug::realsmug::realsmug::realsmug:

o rite i fergot u talke lik ths... i hop u cun red thus bettar!

[Dwood]

What people see when they quit a map can really make or break gameplay.

FINALLY! Someone who sees the light! If you don't have a good menu for people to Exit the map, how do you know they'll come back? The menus are one of the most essential parts of any map!

I can't believe anyone would leave such key modifications out of any custom Map!

[t3h m00kz]

I hate that song almost as much as public schools. As soon as I hear the intro I close the youtube tab I'm watching regardless of how good/bad the video is.

holy shit I do that for any video that has the Halo 2 theme with the fucking electric guitar

we're so much alike

Honestly I don't think Blow Me Away is too bad... just the lyrical version :gonk:

Incubus' Movements of the Odyssey (ALL OF THEM NOT JUST THE FIRST) were probably my favorite songs from the Halo 2 soundtrack, and nobody uses those :(

[Sel]

o rite i fergot u talke lik ths... i hop u cun red thus bettar!

you should learn to spell faggot!!

man I bet you taste like ciggarettes~

[Con]

remove the leave game option from the menu so they have to keep playing

[Cagerrin]

o rite i fergot u talke lik ths... i hop u cun red thus bettar!
Maybe if you worked on the map rather than wasting time translating to monkey you could prove it better than Revelations.

:raise:

[t3h m00kz]

remove the leave game option from the menu so they have to keep playing

i liek this idea give this man a raise

[Sel]

remove the leave game option from the menu so they have to keep playing

oh my god

hahahahhaha

Doing this.

[Cagerrin]

remove the leave game option from the menu so they have to keep playing
god dammit I can't rep you.

but that is fucking genius.

[t3h m00kz]

They should have done that in that RickRoll box map I heard about


assuming that they didn't

[Siliconmaster]

They should have done that in that RickRoll box map I heard about


assuming that they didn't

They didn't. I still have that map. :P

[English Mobster]

Fuck. That is the best idea I have heard in a long time.

[FRain]

also, disable devmode so they cant just (quit

[Cortexian]

Or just make the "Leave Game" button take you to another menu that says something like "'Are you really sure you want to stop playing such an awesome map?' Yes/No".

[Sel]

Or just make the "Leave Game" button take you to another menu that says something like "'Are you really sure you want to stop playing such an awesome map?' Yes/No".

That might be an option for Revelations, but definitely not this map. No one should have to be forced to have issues quitting this.

[Cortexian]

That might be an option for Revelations, but definitely not this map. No one should have to be forced to have issues quitting this.
Oh, I was referring to Revelations....

Someone fix this threads title, ugh. :ugh:

[Inferno]

Change it to "Better than Selentic"

[n00b1n8R]

(the OP can do that himself, just edit the OP in advanced options :downs:)

[English Mobster]

No, you can't change the thread title. I've tried with my own threads.
It's an option which is THERE, but there must be a bug in Modacity's permissions because while it says you've changed it, it doesn't actually change it except in the title you see when you go into "Advanced Mode".

I don't even think anyone can actually even SEE every reply's title.
E: Nope. I can't even see the changed title in my own post.

[p0lar_bear]

There's a grace period where users can edit their own topic titles. I forget how long it is.

[Cortexian]

There's a grace period where users can edit their own topic titles. I forget how long it is.
Extend that to infinite, problem solved.

[Sel]

this thread title is still misleading me???

[Inferno]

this thread title is still misleading me???

:realsmug:

[p0lar_bear]

dere we go i fixed it

[AAA]

dere we go i fixed it


=/ Rename it to something more funny and misleading like you guys usually do.... That's funny.

[Inferno]

Name is "Another map that will never ever ever ever ever be released"

edit-

NVM. Name it "Snafubars triangulation on the blue base is horrible"

[sleepy1212]

where's all the cool stuff? all i see is "lol wut?"


magic box reminds me of ATHF.

[teh lag]

13 deleted shitposts later,

A+ post quality in here.

[Heathen]

Might I recommend Blood Sugar by Pendulum?

I recommend "Lets Go" by Apples in Stereo.
:realsmug:

[Gwunty]

Or I can donate some of my awesome music
btw did I mention :iia:

[Inferno]

Since snaf is doing work on the harbinger model and I'm waiting on a UI element for yoyov2. I decided to begin work on vertigo.

This is about 2 hours worth of modeling for me heh.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/goatse.PNG

Not a bad start I'd say. The upper area of the map is half way and the ladder rooms are done. The under area hasn't been started though.

[Inferno]

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/dark.PNG

That was fast.

:realsmug:

[n00b1n8R]

That's what she said :smugsome:

[t3h m00kz]

thats what HE said. :mech2:

[Alwin Roth]

:gonk:

[Inferno]

Oh you guys. :v:
When I get it lighted I will need kiddies to help beta. I think that little ganon kid want to beta. Amirite?

[sevlag]

Oh you guys. :v:
When I get it lighted I will need kiddies to help beta. I think that little ganon kid want to beta. Amirite?
vertigo looks nice, alot of CQC expected or what?

[Inferno]

vertigo looks nice, alot of CQC expected or what?

Remind me what CQC is.

The map will be a lot of close range and a good bit of mid range. Hopefully some good CTF oddball and slayer.

[Ganon]

Oh you guys. :v:
When I get it lighted I will need kiddies to help beta. I think that little ganon kid want to beta. Amirite?

naw

[sevlag]

Remind me what CQC is.

The map will be a lot of close range and a good bit of mid range. Hopefully some good CTF oddball and slayer.
Close Quarters Combat, basically shotty fest

[Inferno]

Well it's got a mix. There are areas where shotguns + ARs will dominate and sections where snipers and pistols will be your weapons of choice.

[.Wolf™]

Put Codes spray in there...

[sevlag]

Well it's got a mix. There are areas where shotguns + ARs will dominate and sections where snipers and pistols will be your weapons of choice.
dont forget the flamethrower with the mix

what ever happened to omega station? you let that die or something?

[Inferno]

All of the maps I've made excluding SP and yoyov2 are part of the Infernal Map Pack. Which is going to be done EVENTUALLY.

Flamers = bad gameplay.

[Ganon]

Flamers = bad gameplay.

not at all, they work well in some maps.

[Inferno]

not at all, they work well in some maps.

I meant for this map.

Flamers are fine on maps that are large enough to support them. Like hangemhigh.

[Inferno]

Vertigo Open Beta! The map will be publicly up for download later today. And I'll have a server running it on a map cycle.

Check back in about a hour.

edit-

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/pills%20layout.PNG

Current layout.

for fucks sake, what do people find so hard about using shot tags? ~con

[Inferno]

Beta time! Download the map and talk to me on AIM (infernoxpyro) or Xfire (wankzta) Were going to set up some betas.

DOWNLOAD
(http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/3000%20Polys%20vs%20The%20Persian%20Army.rar)

[Lateksi]

Looks interesting. Make sure it's still up tomorrow when I can actually test it :)

[Higuy]

Reminds me of Ivory Tower, I like it alot. Download now, will check it out.

[English Mobster]

Alpha was fun, I'll take a look at this one.
Owai- You're banned.
Was it because you liked the teal?

[SnaFuBAR]

Should be some updates tomorrow. :woop:

[SnaFuBAR]

beta soon. contact Inferno for the map!

[Kalub]

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/1671/foahsfhcopy.png

[Sever]

Fix the stairs - they have no player clip. I'd also say fix the map, its gameplay and function are lacking (though the form is done quite nicely in some areas) but I'm saving my monthly mapping rant/commentary for bigger better things.

[Timo]

Some shots of what it looks like so far:

http://timo.modacity.net/pix/harbringer/1.jpg
http://timo.modacity.net/pix/harbringer/2.jpg
http://timo.modacity.net/pix/harbringer/5.jpg
Red Base (edit: it's is actually blue base):
http://timo.modacity.net/pix/harbringer/4.jpg
http://timo.modacity.net/pix/harbringer/3.jpg


Not sure how gameplay will pan out - there's not too much head cover anywhere, easy pickings for pistol whores.

[Dwood]

Looks pretty good, visual-wise. Get gameplay more now. :)

[Sel]

looks cool

shame it plays horribly!

[Siliconmaster]

Wow. Looks beautiful. I'd download it just to run around in it. :D Of course, that's my viewpoint with every map. If that contributes to the Delta Halo UI, that's going to be one damn nice UI.

[Timo]

Ok, so people that got to look at the map today, Inferno wants to know:
-What should be retextured or added to (other than what's obviously unfinished).
-What they thought of the atmosphere of the map

The textures are nice as is, the only thing I don't like is that the tile texture for the floors are too repetitive.
Personally think the atmosphere of the map is good, although it needs more plant life. If it's supposed to look brand new, there would be plants or something in those extruded parts around the center, and the very center patch of dirt would be a center piece of some kind. I think a massive tree would be awesome. Or put glass down and have random covenant AI duke it out in a box since it looks like it's an arena of some kind. Something.

The blue base needs something added to it, it's too empty as is. Covenant barrels maybe, or just add in some extruded blocks like there are in the AotCR rooms.

It'd be cool if the structures that aren't bases had the massive flares like the bases in infinity as well.


oh, and the skybox isn't finished if you hadn't realised :x

[p0lar_bear]

Some shots of what it looks like so far:

Not sure how gameplay will pan out - there's not too much head cover anywhere, easy pickings for pistol whores.

Are you kidding? I ran a test solo with snaf and there's plenty of cover outside of the bases, though only from one or two directions.

[Timo]

I guess i'm just too used to hilly terrained maps where you can hide without crouching :F

[Con]

Are you using some ripped textures? I know the tile texture I made doesn't look like that.

[jcap]

You should add weapon drop pods and covenant computers and weapon pods things.

Also, I was thinking about this. This doesn't really make sense if it takes place in the same lake as the one in H2. What might be a better idea is if the Halo 2 location is expanded on, taking place in an adjacent lake. I think at the beginning of The Sacred Icon, you can see more than one lake, but I'm not entirely sure. Even so, a little extra could be injected.

With the surrounding land, just make it look better. Add trees and bushes, much what you see at the beginning of the level Delta Halo.

Hell, what might even be more awesome is to have the covenant cruiser as an actual model (low poly, though) way in the distance, but not just a silhouette since it could take closer to it. Most could stay the same except for the wall and cruiser positions. Hell, you could even animate the covenant fleet slipspaces in the air. Too bad we can't have animations in the main menu though... :smith:

[Siliconmaster]

Too bad we can't have animations in the main menu though... :smith:

:smith: Tis a sad thing.

[English Mobster]

This is a silly and probably much too laggy of faking it, but you can run scripts from the main menu, correct? Just place a separate piece of scenery for each individual frame of the animation, then, using scripts, delete them all at the UI startup. Once they are supposed to begin "animating", you object_create_anew one individual frame, then delete it and object_create_anew the NEXT, and so on.

It would be laggy, probably, and I am more than likely overestimating Halo's engine, but it WOULD be a way to fake animations in a UI, short ones at least.

[Timo]

Actually, could OS enable animations in a UI :?

[Con]

Does a UI permit an animated sky? You could simply put the models in the sky if that's the case.

[FRain]

This is a silly and probably much too laggy of faking it, but you can run scripts from the main menu, correct? Just place a separate piece of scenery for each individual frame of the animation, then, using scripts, delete them all at the UI startup. Once they are supposed to begin "animating", you object_create_anew one individual frame, then delete it and object_create_anew the NEXT, and so on.

It would be laggy, probably, and I am more than likely overestimating Halo's engine, but it WOULD be a way to fake animations in a UI, short ones at least.

I've had this idea before, but as CAD has told me, it would be alot easier to just object_set_permutation instead of create_anew

[Siliconmaster]

The sky option is nice. I like that. Would have to be extremely small to show up as the "right" size in the map though. I'm also foreseeing render errors. o_0

[p0lar_bear]

Does a UI permit an animated sky? You could simply put the models in the sky if that's the case.

Anything texture scroll-based is a yes. model_animations tags are a no.

[Higuy]

Looking great. Only problem I have it the unwrap/texture on the backround hills and mountains. I downloaded the beta yesterday but never got a chance to go play it. Guess I'll go do that now and tell you what I think.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

"Free inferno with the purchase of 2 beta maps! Get on xfire people cause we be testing both vertigo and harbinger today."

[Boba]

needs more vegetation

[Inferno]

Guess who's back?

:iamafag:

[Gwunty]

Guess who's back?

:iamafag:
fuck
someone ban him quick!!!!

[Inferno]

We are getting to the point where harbringer eggplant is nearly done. I need someone to up-rez or remake the sky and I need foliage for the planter boxes.

[Inferno]

Okay I need a pole.

Do I add the covie capital ship to the BSP and have awesome bumped cubes and shaders. Or do I make it a scenery and use normal shaders.

It's about 2.5k polys and I already have some clipping on the map.

Is it worth having a little clipping but getting a awesome shader on the ship?

[Dwood]

Okay I need a pole.

Do I add the covie capital ship to the BSP and have awesome bumped cubes and shaders. Or do I make it a scenery and use normal shaders.

It's about 2.5k polys and I already have some clipping on the map.

Is it worth having a little clipping but getting a awesome shader on the ship?

Idk test it. :iamafag:

[Gwunty]

Okay I need a pole.

Do I add the covie capital ship to the BSP and have awesome bumped cubes and shaders. Or do I make it a scenery and use normal shaders.

It's about 2.5k polys and I already have some clipping on the map.

Is it worth having a little clipping but getting a awesome shader on the ship?
or you can stop being lazy and add more portals to the map :downs:

[Inferno]

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/shippy.PNG


Like dis.

[p0lar_bear]

Apply a render-only flag to the ship's shader and cut out the polygons on the top that nobody would be able to see. You'd probably drop a good number of polygons.

[Inferno]

Apply a render-only flag to the ship's shader and cut out the polygons on the top that nobody would be able to see. You'd probably drop a good number of polygons.

Yeah I already made it render only. I'm too damn lazy to debug the collision on that thing.

Also anything that's back facing won't render anyways so I don't need to bother with it.

[chrisk123999]

It's funny, I'm using that same exact ship on my next map...

[Ganon]

when I played it I didn't actually see any clipping

[Inferno]

It's there just not noticeable from most parts of the map.

[Inferno]

I suck at portalling.

*tries again*

[English Mobster]

Sir, if it is THAT hard, send it to me for portalling.
I managed to portal that clipping clusterfuck Snowtrap, I'll portal this one.

[SnaFuBAR]

So I've got a terrible headache right now and that might be the cause of this idea but, random bipeds, yes or no?

[p0lar_bear]

So I've got a terrible headache right now and that might be the cause of this idea but, random bipeds, yes or no?

Hell no.

Terrible headache makes terrible ideas.

[Inferno]

Random bipeds. Wut?

[SnaFuBAR]

like armor permutations and shit y'know.

[Inferno]

Probably not. I'm planning on backpack weapons and delta halo UI.

Also the lightmaps are done. Giant ship + portals are ingame.

[Ganon]

Delta lake isn't a very intricate name

[Sel]

snafubar is a dumb fuck

dont ever listen to him

[Inferno]

It's called eggplant. Get it right.

[Sel]

Probably not. I'm planning on backpack weapons and delta halo UI.

Also the lightmaps are done. Giant ship + portals are ingame.

its never getting released dumbass!!!

[Inferno]

Shut up Mr. Pessimist!

[.Wolf™]

It's called eggplant. Get it right.
TBH Eggplant is one awefully ghey name for a map. Inferno - You officialy suck at naming things.!

[Ganon]

May I suggest Delta Basin?

[Inferno]

How about HALO 3 MAP WITH HALO 3 GUNS.map

[Higuy]

Delta Towers... Regret.... Delta Basin? (i like the last one)

[Inferno]

Let's call it map.map.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/e631cb6f43849d6298b02ff1dd53bd8f8398bebc.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/0eff5015012295a59c1220eb60f3d1266b841a17.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/07d5c765830021df1f87b8e41e4fcd69b0d0c8b7.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/944146bacf1e04b72164182a0c14bd1565c3e4a5.png

That catwalk in the first picture isn't unwrapped yet. I'm too lazy ATM. I'll get it done in the next build.

[Higuy]

I think I just died from the ugliness of that ship. I think with it being in the sky (as the bitmap), was looking alot better. (no offence, just sayin~)

[.Wolf™]

Isnt Covenant ships purple-ish?Cause purple-ish is hotter.

[Inferno]

Halo 2 covie ships aren't as purple.

[Timo]

Yeah, the underside of that ship is pretty ugly, detracts from the quality of the map imo :x

[Cagerrin]

tbh they look quite ugly when they aren't purple.

also, "Penance"?

[Higuy]

Use the Halo 1 ship. Looks better, and is higher poly, might not be Halo 2, but I think it look a bit better then the h2 ship.

[Inferno]

K.

[.Wolf™]

Yeah, All maps that uses Covenant ships always bugged me, the fact that they use that ulgy piece of model that is.

[jcap]

I said before that I the map should be in an adjacent lake to the one you see in Delta Halo and Regret. I thought it would be cool if you take a page out of Halo 3's book and have the flagship model coming out of the clouds, which would indicate that it is the same ship as the one in the Halo 2 Delta Halo/Regret sky, but you're just closer to it. Also, you would be able to use a much lower-poly model since it would be so far away and half would be covered, so that's 1/2 the polygons right there.

Check out the level Coastal Highway from ODST when the assault carrier starts coming out of the clouds.

Also, make it look good. Shouldn't it be purple?

[SnaFuBAR]

capitol ships are silver.

[Ganon]

I like the silver better than purple :haw:

[jcap]

Oh right, I forgot about the H3 Prepare to Drop scene.

Make it look shiny.

[.Wolf™]

If you add those white/grey ships make them like this http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=l4SjwOa_TrM#t=276
When the Ships jumped out of slip space and lay in orbit ,Also add High Charity maybe?

[Sever]

Yeah, it's not that it's a specific color, it's that it's very reflective, and thus takes on the color of the surrounding area.

[Inferno]

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/a42e0fbcf4c022ad8968553a247a9a1a26e4c490.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/ee9ab1c6b1965fcf80216f0dbe2303a75cc3d993.png

Better?
Worse?

I like it personally.

Also I'm going to animate it to move slightly.

[Dwood]

Make it fly at a slow rate around the map mb?

[Horns]

I like the ship.

[Con]

I think it'd be cooler to just have it floating there. There's no need for the ship to be flying around unless it's glassing something ;p

[Ki11a_FTW]

that tree in the first pic needs a new detail map or something, it doesnt fit in, but the rest is :downs:

[Inferno]

Well I don't want it flying around but having it perfectly static is kind of weird looking. I'm going to have it tilt and drift very very slowly. Like as if the wind was moving it around a bit.

[jcap]

God dammit just have coming out of a cloud in the distance.

Like in this part of ODST: http://fc09.deviantart.com/fs51/f/2009/278/f/c/fc561f7e3e6af3484e685e9b1c191acd.jpg

(except before it fully comes out of the cloud)

[Inferno]

Unless someone paints a damn sky then I can't. Halo can't do volumetric shit properly and I like having the ship close enough to see detail.


And now for something completely different.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/95d2a89b8bf0c1b84ecdfca2c37f8f2a0a4fe966.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/6afad645d5e32c513c33b37afe7f9b67f7b78111.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/c91f75be022fb1979e2b0b6619d9fbd69eafd986.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/9a7d3c231a387cfced0b90efe355aa0ed7ca402a.png

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/77f0846ca33f8d0674acb67cf7fd84563d71ad9b.png

Yeah yeah, I know its not very detailed but I can barely model. It's only 3k polys total so even polar can run it on high settings.

[Sel]

what the fuck is that trash

it's worse than delta lake

[Inferno]

Both of which are better than revelations.

At least I can actually see my maps. Unlike clipvelations.

[Ki11a_FTW]

I like the Teal.

[Inferno]

The gun. It's weel.

[jcap]

Unless someone paints a damn sky then I can't. Halo can't do volumetric shit properly and I like having the ship close enough to see detail.
What? All you have to do is have Con put the model in the sky...he made it anyway. Hell, that would even prevent any portalling problems.

As for detail, you'll see plenty. I don't think the distance should be any greater than the one in ODST, and that came out fine. But fuck, you should worry about the details of the surrounding hills and shit more than the capital ship.

[Inferno]

I need someone who can paint a nice texture for it.

[Ki11a_FTW]

I made the sky in this map >_>

[Inferno]

You mean bungie made the sky in this map.

[Ki11a_FTW]

well bungie did the textures which is the least important part of a sky!!!

[jcap]

I thought you were using the custom version Con made for the map at first...

Whatever, you should still make it part of the sky and have it coming out of a cloud.

[Inferno]

It's scenery right now.

And I don't like the thought of a animated sky TBH.

[SnaFuBAR]

you should use gel maps for your lights.

[Con]

I thought you were using the custom version Con made for the map at first...

Yeah, I'm not sure why you wouldn't go with custom content when it's available.

[Ki11a_FTW]

no

[jcap]

It's scenery right now.

And I don't like the thought of a animated sky TBH.
Why would it be animated?

[Inferno]

Yeah, I'm not sure why you wouldn't go with custom content when it's available.

You have a sky? Gimeeeeeeee.

Also if we put the ship in the sky then it will require me to animate the sky. Which is annoying + probably not going to render and cleanly as a scenery object.