Windows 7 launch day is finally here

[InnerGoat]

Yeah Windows 7 is finally out for the rest of the world. Some new netbooks launched with it too if you're in the market for one~

Hey there's also an official OS-tan for windows 7 if you're into that weird stuff!

Well, cya!

[Ganon]

well shit, i'll have to find a way to get my grubby mits on a copy

[Wakeboy1337]

Mine should be here this afternoon :)

[CN3089]

Hey there's also an official OS-tan for windows 7 if you're into that weird stuff!
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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Animes/d0137e428f3ff38709fd721144d1f037.jpg

[Cojafoji]

If I wasn't scrapping money together for rend, I'd buy this and a new cpu...

[BobtheGreatII]

Got mine with the student thing. Waiting on the email. And then my disc to come next week.

[Rook]

the price of all the versions need to be dropped by about 50%, but otherwise gonna have to get it sooner or later beta runs out eventually. :ugh:

[BobtheGreatII]

the price of all the versions need to be dropped by about 50%, but otherwise gonna have to get it sooner or later beta runs out eventually. :ugh:

Lol, you had two chances for that bro. One when it was only half the price, and the second with a student discount. Both are gone now.

[Rook]

Lol, you had two chances for that bro. One when it was only half the price, and the second with a student discount. Both are gone now.

Yeah, had no money during the sale, and I'm not a student.

[Dwood]

tags.

[paladin]

I just drove past MS Millennium. There's actually a lot of people there I know group f people from my school are taking off t go to it in a few.

[Cortexian]

I'll get myself a copy of Professional 64-bit OEM some time this month, it's only $150

[flibitijibibo]

FUCK.
CLEAN.
INSTALLS.

Other than that, Windows 7 is great so far. If anyone would like to donate a copy of SONAR 8 Producer Edition that would be great for Podacity... >.>

Also: Does anyone have a fix for Virtual Audio Cable's unsigned driver? Win7 seems to think unsigned drivers are the devil and won't let me keep them.

[Timo]

oh my god tags. Yay windows 7 ^____^

[hobojoe]

Not sure if anyone saw this but........

If you are a student currently enrolled in school and have .edu E-mail (In usa)
You qualify to purchase Windows 7 HP Upgrade for $30.

Linky: http://windows7.digitalriver.com/store/mswpus/en_US/DisplayHomePage?resid=ercYEgoBAkcAAC7nEWUAAAAU&rests=1256246178772

E: Just finished installing my copy for $30

[flibitijibibo]

Not sure if anyone saw this but........

If you are a student currently enrolled in school and have .edu E-mail (In usa)
You qualify to purchase Windows 7 HP Upgrade for $30.

Linky: http://windows7.digitalriver.com/store/mswpus/en_US/DisplayHomePage?resid=ercYEgoBAkcAAC7nEWUAAAAU&rests=1256246178772

E: Just finished installing my copy for $30
Good catch. (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18146) No, seriously. They didn't advertise a deal like that for a good reason. I'd-a Billy Mays'd my thread if I had the time at the... time.

[InnerGoat]

FUCK.
CLEAN.
INSTALLS.

Other than that, Windows 7 is great so far. If anyone would like to donate a copy of SONAR 8 Producer Edition that would be great for Podacity... >.>

Also: Does anyone have a fix for Virtual Audio Cable's unsigned driver? Win7 seems to think unsigned drivers are the devil and won't let me keep them.

turn off driver signing

[English Mobster]

I've had my (legit) copy of Windows 7 for almost a month now.
No, not the beta. The full version.

Won a contest Microsoft's having. The only requirement is that I have a Windows 7 Party (with at least 7 people) and take pictures.
Microsoft has sent me balloons, gift bags, coupons for Zune and Dell products to put inside said gift bags, a Windows 7 puzzle (with a picture of a turtle on it), a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, and napkins with Windows 7 and the Windows logo on them.
The napkins are probably going to be used at every party I ever have, ever, because how often do you go to a party and all the napkins say Windows 7 and have the Windows logo on them?

Will make new topic/post pics when the time comes.

[flibitijibibo]

turn off driver signing
Is there a way to do it other than...
- DDisable_INTEGRITY_CHECKS,
- gpedit.msc (Home Premium doesn't seem to have this anyway),
- Test mode,
- F8 method?

The first one didn't work, the second brings up a watermark, and F8 will get old fast.

[paladin]

I've had my (legit) copy of Windows 7 for almost a month now.
No, not the beta. The full version.

Won a contest Microsoft's having. The only requirement is that I have a Windows 7 Party (with at least 7 people) and take pictures.
Microsoft has sent me balloons, gift bags, coupons for Zune and Dell products to put inside said gift bags, a Windows 7 puzzle (with a picture of a turtle on it), a free copy of Windows 7 Ultimate, and napkins with Windows 7 and the Windows logo on them.
The napkins are probably going to be used at every party I ever have, ever, because how often do you go to a party and all the napkins say Windows 7 and have the Windows logo on them?

Will make new topic/post pics when the time comes.

Lol, I know some people that have had it since August.

[flibitijibibo]

Yeah? I'VE HAD IT SINCE WINDOWS 98 CAME OUT.

I just felt like being fair to the tech scrubs around here, being as generous as I am. :realsmug:

[InnerGoat]

Is there a way to do it other than...
- DDisable_INTEGRITY_CHECKS,
- gpedit.msc (Home Premium doesn't seem to have this anyway),
- Test mode,
- F8 method?

The first one didn't work, the second brings up a watermark, and F8 will get old fast.

Don't know of other ways myself, sorry. I was faced with that problem when deciding between my old usb xbox controller and a 360 controller :smith:

[Cortexian]

I use a combination of test mode and fake driver signing when I want to use my original Xbox controller with Windows 7.

[legionaire45]

I have joined the cult of 7*

* Caveat: I also joined the cult of Ubuntu :3

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

build 7229 here
:v:

[justin108]

Don't know of other ways myself, sorry. I was faced with that problem when deciding between my old usb xbox controller and a 360 controller :smith:
i got a driver for both, lemme know if you want the old ctrller driver, it worked fine as well.

[InnerGoat]

Oh i'm fine with the x360 controller now. The old controller went to the other pc that still runs XP. Thanks though :)

[Futzy]

My winrar trial ran out today, meaning I've already had it for 40 days.
Not a huge difference but it's definitely got a faster boot/shut down speed and has never chugged on me once like it did with Vista.
Only thing I don't have a driver for so far is my speakers, so my bass doesn't work yet :C

[Lateksi]

^Get 7zip. I'm gonna move to Windows 7 when I have the money. So far everyone has told me it's better than Vista.

[legionaire45]

I'm having a bitch of a time getting wifi to work on this...

Right now it "works", but only when I have the ethernet plugged in...as soon as I unplug the ethernet my wifi goes.

If you're upgrading to Win7 make sure that drivers are available for all of your hardware first.

[jcap]

I think Vista is better than W7. With Windows 7...



the taskbar is counter-productive and buggy as fuck.

Windows can be dragged behind the god damn taskbar.
The FUCKING BLINKING ICONS HOLY SHIT. You need to click and remain on the window for 2-3 seconds before it stops flashing. Now try instant messaging...



Twice my taskbar magically teleported to the top of my screen. It was locked. I could not drag it back down without first unlocking.
Windows can frequently be dragged on top of the taskbar. Clicking on the taskbar brings it back into focus.

Explorer crashes daily for me and InnerGoat.
more than 2 monitors are handled like shit. Renaming an icon for "all users" will cause it to suddenly disappear.
on a screen with 1050 height, the icons don't fill up the entire height of the screen by default, even though they can manually.
libraries suck. I want access from my start menu directly to my documents. I want my real folder path in the address bar.
the search field is buggy in any Explorer window.
each time you open a new Explorer window, it stacks on top of the old one leading to clutter. Each window position is not stored.
once a week, Windows will wake itself from sleep and bluescreen.
twice in the past week my network adapter keep resetting every 10 seconds when I had several Youtube tabs open. Had to disable and re-enable.
Media Center doesn't record a series schedule even though it says it will. You need to manually choose what you want to record and when.

Windows 7 is pure hype. It's not better than the current state of Vista and the only reasons Windows Vista 2.0 doesn't have as much flack now are because it doesn't bear the same name as Vista and because Windows Vista took the hard hit of having no drivers ready when released that W7 doesn't have to deal with. Windows Vista drivers work fine on 7, but XP drivers didn't work well on Vista.

[Ganon]

*waits for sp1*

vista supremacy

[Timo]

I think Vista is better than W7. With Windows 7...

the taskbar is counter-productive and buggy as fuck.

explorer crashes daily for me and InnerGoat.

more than 2 monitors are handled like shit.

on a screen with 1050 height, the icons don't fill up the entire height of the screen by default, even though they can manually.

libraries suck. I want access from my start menu directly to my documents. I want my real folder path in the address bar.

the search field is buggy in any Explorer window.

each time you open a new Explorer window, it stacks on top of the old one leading to clutter. Each window position is not stored.

once a week, Windows will wake itself from sleep and bluescreen.

Media Center doesn't record a series schedule even though it says it will. You need to manually choose what you want to record and when.

Windows 7 is pure hype. It's not better than the current state of Vista and the only reasons Windows Vista 2.0 doesn't have as much flack now are because it doesn't bear the same name as Vista and because Windows Vista took the hard hit of having no drivers ready when released that W7 doesn't have to deal with. Windows Vista drivers work fine on 7, but XP drivers didn't work well on Vista.

rage

I don't have any of these problems, but I do hate libraries.

[flibitijibibo]

A lot of jcap's problems I ended up fixing the second I installed Win7. Thanks to you guys running RTM and such, I was able to get a list of shit to do on the OS to prevent such frustration.

Taskbar can be VERY easily modified by right click > properties. This should solve stacking/shit like that. Also, come on. Pinning to taskbar fucking rules.

To avoid libraries, I change all my shortcuts to be the actual directory, not the library herpderp. So, at the bottom left of quick launch, instead of it being "explorer.exe", I run "C:\Users\Yeah yeah\My Documents". Seems to work rather well.

So far, I haven't experienced any bugs/crashes, so I can't say much about that. I'll have to get back to you on Media Center too. I have to say though, the Media Center gadget was the best fucking addition to sidebar/gadgets.

Performance hasn't been a huge change, which concerns me because I moved from 32 to 64-bit with this upgrade. It's nice to have all my RAM now, but it seems not much has changed on memory usage and speed, in game and out.

I expect to have SONAR/Sampletank back by Thanksgiving, so I'll also post about my audio in Win7 when that happens.

[InnerGoat]

Outside of the explorer.exe blowing up some days and being happy on others, and creative's awful posting drivers it's all good :-3

[jcap]

Taskbar can be VERY easily modified by right click > properties. This should solve stacking/shit like that. Also, come on. Pinning to taskbar fucking rules.

To avoid libraries, I change all my shortcuts to be the actual directory, not the library herpderp. So, at the bottom left of quick launch, instead of it being "explorer.exe", I run "C:\Users\Yeah yeah\My Documents". Seems to work rather well.
Yeah, I know of the ungrouping option, but it still doesn't fix the other problems with the shitty taskbar like the flashing. Also, I hate how when you show the names of each open window, there is crazy spacing between groups of the same app and different apps. Ugh. Plus, then you can't have any "quicklaunch" items in your taskbar because opening up one app on the left will push everything to the right. Ugh again.

As for the shortcut, yeah, I changed my one Explorer icon in the taskbar to go straight to my local user profile folder, where I can then access my documents, music, appdata, whatever. I wish I could change the target of my start menu link without screwing a lot of things up.

[TheGhost]

The only thing I don't like is the Libraries. Everything else works well for me.

[justin108]

Everything works great here except that when I install some programs, it causes nothing to show up under the all programs menu of the start bar. Weird and frustrating. I also have to Ctrl-alt-del at startup and run explorer.exe...but i'm sure thats user error not windows. I probably d/l a couple viriii late nights surfing. When i am less lazy I will do a fresh install and see if i still have issues.

[Futzy]

Everything works great here except that when I install some programs, it causes nothing to show up under the all programs menu of the start bar. Weird and frustrating. I also have to Ctrl-alt-del at startup and run explorer.exe...but i'm sure thats user error not windows. I probably d/l a couple viriii late nights surfing. When i am less lazy I will do a fresh install and see if i still have issues.
You're doing it wrong.

[Cortexian]

Yea, I've had none of the issues posted in this thread, with the exception of the entire libraries shit pile. I'm still trying to find a way to modify the start menu links (via the registry or something) so they open in the actual file path I want.

[justin108]

I just got Win7 x64 Professional here for 29.99, but i bought the disk for 13 bucks too. Already got the key, and I am d/l it now. Its a sweet deal but you must have an email ending in .edu.

http://win741.com/
http://windows7.digitalriver.com/store/mswpus/en_US/DisplayHomePage
http://www.microsoft.com/student/discounts/theultimatesteal-us/default.aspx

After confirming your email be sure to choose the other link on purchase (to get Pro instead of Home Premium) otherwise you wont have the option of changing pro/home later.

*now I can rid myself of this old ass pirate version*

[BobtheGreatII]

Old news bro.

[p0lar_bear]

For like the 30 minutes I was running W7, I thought it was fucking awesome.

[InnerGoat]

You can run W7?

[BobtheGreatII]

You can run W7?

I had Windows 7 installed on my Mom's old Dell Dimension 2400. Has a Pentium 4 and a gig of ram. Worked pretty smoothly. Just didn't have Areo because of the onboard graphics and all.

[p0lar_bear]

You can run W7?

I'm sure I can install it on my Dell shitbox, hell I can run Vista on it with little issue past TF2 being totally unplayable, but I was talking about the frankenstein machine I was working on. After I figured out that my issues were with the processor, I now find that my video card and chipset don't get along, so the GPU crashes while I run a game, and sometimes at random while poking around my desktop.

But while it was running, I was loving every second of it.

[Bodzilla]

oh chris you poor bastard :smith:

[jcap]

Windows 7 is a piece of shit operating system.

"The PlayReady update was incomplete." Blacks out TV at random, then it bitches and says that the update was incomplete.......and when I retry, it immediately says it can't, and it prompts to retry again and again and again.

http://izanbardprince.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/microsoft-windows-7-cable-television-and-the-so-called-playready-drm-scam/

[Con]

oh my god tags. Yay windows 7 ^____^
Vista has tags :raise:

[Jean-Luc]

Windows 7 is a piece of shit operating system.
Says you. I've never had any problem with it :raise:

[jcap]

I doubt you've used it inside and out to its full potential, too.

It should do more than turning on and running third party programs.

[MetKiller Joe]

I doubt you've used it inside and out to its full potential, too.

It should do more than turning on and running third party programs.

To be quite honest, I want my OS to stay the hell out of my way. I want to get work done without interruption or worry that the OS managing the program is unstable. I don't want to think about driver compatibility or how a program is going to run if I don't have the correct patch for the OS. So far, Windows 7 does all of the back scenes work, and that's what I like about it.

[Cortexian]

I doubt you've used it inside and out to its full potential, too.

It should do more than turning on and running third party programs.
Just because you're bad at troubleshooting doesn't mean that it's a horrible OS.

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[jcap]

You mind troubleshooting those problems for me? I dare you.

You can't. I've already done searching. The operating system is too new. Not much of the public has been building bug lists while using it for several months like me. Even if a problem is found, it's too new for a good solutions. To make matters worse, many of the search terms you could use are too broad.

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[Cortexian]

Again, it's not our fault that you can find alternate solutions to the problem. How about you find research around and find an alternate program that works for whatever (useless) thing you're trying to accomplish with TV? People moan and complain when an application runs into compatibility issues instead of looking around and finding a program that actually works in the mean time.

You're complaining about minor issues that only effect a small percentage of users, and you're doing it immediately after the OS was released. Microsoft might be a large company with thousands of employees, but it takes time to fix issues.

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[p0lar_bear]

Who the fuck watches cable TV anyway.

[Rook]

Who the fuck watches cable TV anyway.

^

^^^6^6^^

[Ganon]

SP 1 HTH

[jcap]

So it's MY FUCKING PROBLEM that the "PERFECT, NEW, BETTER THAN WINDOWS VISTA" operating system can't work the way it's supposed to?


REALLY?

My gripe with this operating system is not just related to Media Center. It goes back to that other post where I mentioned all those bugs in the RTM version. I know this OS is new, but there's no reason these problems should have developed after Windows Vista (IT'S A FUCKING CLONE FOR FUCK'S SAKE) and then make it through beta, RC, and then into RTM. Perhaps it's my fault for not reporting bugs...but it's their fault for not providing any method of reporting bugs in the RC.

As for my Media Center problem, please give me some other free application which will let me watch, record, and schedule series recordings of live TV. Also, this is native to Windows. It's not a "compatibility issue" I'm having here. If it is, it's pretty fucking pathetic that Microsoft can ship Windows 7 with software that isn't compatible with itself.

A small percentage of users is millions. Even if it is just one person using a feature, they shouldn't have problems with it. It is never "OK" to let a problem go because it's not going to be as used as something else.

What I'm mainly pissed off about is how everyone talks about Windows 7 like is a god damn religion. Jesus fucking Christ people, this OS is not perfect. If you install Windows Vista today, it's much more stable and bug-free than this.

[Rook]

jcap, the problems seem to be all on your end, I have a buddy who uses a tv tuner card and records tv with his windows 7 machine, and myself still on build 7100 haven't had any problems.

*shrug*

[jcap]

I can record fine with W7. I've actually run into the PlayReady problem only 3 times, all which were in the past 3 weeks. I once ran into it while I tried watching a movie (it would show for 5 seconds, then go to the PlayReady screen), another time while watching CSI, and another time while while watching commercials on Discovery.

I believe my schedule problem only occurs when I have it set to record only new episodes of a series under the recording settings.

[TheGhost]

Sounds like problems with third party software and drivers than anything else. That doesn't mean Windows 7 is bad.

Of course there will be compatibility issues this thing just came out.

I can't stand all of those people yelling "there's no reason to upgrade from Windows XP, it's more stable and is more hardened blah blah blah". These people stand in the way of progress. People said the same fucking thing about XP when it came out too. You have to take these kind of things in steps, and you can't expect the first version to be fucking perfect for your individual needs. Similar things can be said for Vista.

[Cortexian]

A friend of mine has had 0 problems with Windows 7 Media Center and TV tuner recording or watching... Must be some unique issue with your hardware.

[Bodzilla]

Results may vary.

i hated vista with a passion and stuck with XP throughout it all but i myself have looked around and i'm really happy with windows 7.
I think it's what vista should have been and jcap your problems seem isolated, because i dont see or hear about other people jumping up and down about these kinds of issues like we did with vista.

[justin108]

Well, I have an HP media center PC with a Hauppage HD tuner, I haven't had any problems with it; not to say i have not had other problems with 7. I do think Windows 7 feels more like a real launch than Vista did; they have had a while now to fix shit. My entire proprietary PC worked out of the box; 64 bit to boot; damn nice from Microsoft I would say.

Honestly I paid 29.99 for it, so if it wasn't to my liking it cost me no more than a 3 year old game would; I am OK with losing that amount of money on a testbed if I don't like a product.

[jcap]

It's not an isolated problem if none of you are even using it the same way I am. I'l tell you 100% that it is not a hardware issue. It just isn't logical. Why can I watch TV and manually record if it is hardware-related?

EDIT: Right now, I'm messing around with recordings. Yesterday, I tried scheduling a one-time recording of a two hour long program and it began recording one hour and 30 mins into it. So, I cleared out my entire schedule now and set just one program to record. It started recording at the set time. That would explain how I managed to pull off some scheduled recordings back when I had only one. Maybe the bug comes from having too many (I had like 5...not many at all) scheduled programs. None conflicted, but none recorded.

And I do believe the recording problem is independent of the PlayReady problem.

[justin108]

No, I believe it may be some half baked DRM, I just have yet to run into it as I do not have a digital subscription. I do realize that you may need a Cable Card to access some things, but this has all been covered so may not be your issue. There are several folks out there right now building DRM friendly Cable Card setups, but it is an ugly world.

edit: also, if you had been having trouble with HBO, or Cinemax I wouldn't be as surprised as having one of your Locals blacked out....that's just fucked up.

edit again:seems like a lot of play ready issues I am reading about now. Be glad to test out tomorrow further after school.

[jcap]

With regard to the DRM crap, yeah, local channels get blocked out. It's happened twice while watching CBS. It also happened one time when I was channel surfing to TBS which was running a movie.

To make it shittier, all the times I've experienced it have been with live TV. It'd expect it to maybe pop up and say I can't record the program if I attempt to, or maybe pop over recorded video, but it doesn't do that.

[TheGhost]

I think we can all agree: fuck DRM

[flibitijibibo]

Why couldn't you have made that post when I was writing an article about it? XP

That actually does blow. Quite a lot. I'll have to see how it works with my tuner card at home.

[jcap]

I just got a blue screen coming out of sleep again. I'd say this has a 1/8 chance that it will BSOD after resuming from sleep.

KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

And if you are so quick to pin it on just my computer, it happens on my netbook too.

[TheGhost]

Wait you did a clean install right

[jcap]

Of course.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

I love Windows 7! Home Premium...

I can't change the language to English but oh well it's fine like this. Am I the only one that loves the Library? :-3

[Cortexian]

I just got a blue screen coming out of sleep again. I'd say this has a 1/8 chance that it will BSOD after resuming from sleep.

KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

And if you are so quick to pin it on just my computer, it happens on my netbook too.
I've never had any issues with the Sleep function on any version of Windows 7. And I've been using the Sleep function for months every time I'm finished with the PC for the day.

With the exception of the past few weeks, because I've been folding 24/7...

[Spartan094]

Just got mine in the mail today...but have to wait to talk to my Dad for setting it up on the family computer and such to make sure its right and .etc. complicated with the parents to make sure nothing screws up :ugh:

[justin108]

I've never had any issues with the Sleep function on any version of Windows 7. And I've been using the Sleep function for months every time I'm finished with the PC for the day.

With the exception of the past few weeks, because I've been folding 24/7...

Yeah, the sleep issue was one I had as well, but since I have done a fresh install now, and d/l all updates, (knocking on wood here) it has woken up ok every time now. I don't know what the cause was, but I as well as several friends had the same issue since installing the original RC. Whatever glitch was there either went away with the fresh install/or a windows update i payed no attention to.

I have been running fine and atm am recording "The Mentalist" with absolutely no issues under 64bit win7.

[Good_Apollo]

What's the benefit of 64-bit and is it viable or still lagging behind in compatibility?

[Futzy]

What's the benefit of 64-bit and is it viable or still lagging behind in compatibility?
I highly doubt you will run into any problems with x64.

[justin108]

I have had no issues going 64bit, but really unless you have 4 gis or more of ram, no reason to change atm.

to answer; yes it is a viable option now, most compatibility issues are ironed out. Windows actually found all of my drivers including tv tuner all by itself....man that was nice.

[TheGhost]

Yeah plus you can install 32-bit programs anyway.

[Bodzilla]

I've never had any issues with the Sleep function on any version of Windows 7. And I've been using the Sleep function for months every time I'm finished with the PC for the day.

With the exception of the past few weeks, because I've been folding 24/7...

always had problems with sleep on any windows OS we've ever had, my dad uses some alternative hibernate functions or someshit.
pretty similar but doesnt seem to break the OS

[CrAsHOvErRide]

You can set which Hardware should not go into sleep mode. Most of the time it was the Hardware's fault and not the OS.

[Rosco]

'tis awesome, I definitely wont be downgrading.

[Con]

Why did they remove the mini mode taskbar toolbar for WMP?

[jcap]

Because WMP12 blows.

[Amit]

I kinda like WMP12, but it seems to use more CPU power than WMP11. I currently use Foobar 2000.

[Futzy]

Foobar 2000.
The best.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

I heard a lot of good things about Foobar. If you want something visually nice but DX and RAM overkill go for the Zune software.

[Futzy]

I heard a lot of good things about Foobar. If you want something visually nice but DX and RAM overkill go for the Zune software.
You can make foobar look like anything you want - http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9638/84262536.jpg

I used fooava as a base and changed a few things on on my own to make it look how i want.
Only fully functioning player I've used that is this versatile.

Uses <2% cpu and 68,000 k at all times

[jcap]

Hey guys, check out this video I made of Windows 7 sucking some massive dick! (SFW)

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/personal/windows7fuckingsucksyoufaggots.wmv

8-lssIde2AE

[CrAsHOvErRide]

Nah it's not the design that makes the Zune software special :-3

http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/f97h0s/Zune.jpg

[jcap]

Zune software is awesome.

[StankBacon]

Hey guys, check out this video I made of Windows 7 sucking some massive dick! (SFW)

http://jcap.h2vista.net/files/personal/windows7fuckingsucksyoufaggots.wmv


i never had any problems with media center using my tv tuner, except for the occasional low bitrate error, which is fixed by switching channels.

what tv tuner do you have?

try manually installing playready?



If you install Windows Vista today, it's much more stable and bug-free than this.

LMFAO, no sorry.




i can't help but think that all your problems are user error... in fact, im willing to bet on it.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

or your Windows 7 installation was corrupt...

Either way Windows 7 has a lot of less bugs than Vista and I had Vista for 4 years.

[jcap]

i never had any problems with media center using my tv tuner, except for the occasional low bitrate error, which is fixed by switching channels.

what tv tuner do you have?

try manually installing playready?

Some Hauppauge card from 3 years ago. But that's completely irrelevant. It's not the channel or card that it causing this - it's the shitty software.

Manual install doesn't fix it. The PlayReady download from Microsoft is version 1.3 and it is probably the same as retail. Either that, or it is a Windows Update that was released shortly after RTM.

I've never experienced your low bitrate issue. I'm willing to bet that is isolated between your card and media center.


LMFAO, no sorry.

i can't help but think that all your problems are user error... in fact, im willing to bet on it.
You have to be ignorant to not realize that Vista is to W7 as XP was to Vista when it was first released (minus driver bugs). Sure, maybe some of Vista's bugs were a little more severe and seen by everyone, such as it hanging on shutdown or random COM Surrogate and Explorer crashing (heh, some things still don't change with W7), but overall, I'd still say that there was a fair tradeoff with W7. And if you want to argue about my problems being insignificant, you're a jackass since the features which are broken out of the box are extremely important to me.

None of this is user error, because if it was they would already be fixed and they would not be recurring upon two reinstallations of Windows. Going back to Vista, everything performs fine. Heck, I even have a chat log with Dr about when I reinstalled and began experiencing the same problems without installing any drivers or additional software. I ultimately ended up restoring windows.old (original W7 installation) because that proved that it wasn't any problem with me.

[InnerGoat]

Windows 7 plays borderlands great btw

[CN3089]

Windows 7 is just plain great :)

[Rosco]

Sucks to be you jcap, because it seems you're one of the only people who has to fall back on Vista.

[jcap]

Sucks to be you jcap, because it seems you're one of the only people who has to fall back on Vista.
Yeah, would be better if the operating system could do everything it was advertised to do...right.

[StankBacon]

funny, it does for everyone else.

[Phopojijo]

Yeah random people have random glitches... that's just unavoidable in software.

MacOSX Snow Leopard deleted peoples' whole accounts, data and all...
Xbox360 has countless errors...
My Satellite receiver has been known to freeze up and delete random shows off it's harddrive randomly.
My iPod Touch locks up occasionally.
My Linux installer destroyed the boot loaders of every operating system I had on my PC when it failed to install properly.

Shit... just... simply... happens.

That said, yes it's annoying that it's caused by DRM... but frankly it's better for Microsoft to support the DRM than to not support the content that's protected at all. Ideally they would push the content providers to NOT use DRM... but ultimately it's not their call to use it... and with all the set-top boxes that does what MediaCenter PCs do... Hollywood can simply say "Don't support us? Fine... people will just use a Tivo or a BluRay player".

[Con]

Can someone tell me how to only use mp3s in a set of folders above a certain filesize in my library? It was easy in WMP11. I have a lot of music mixed with sound effects, and the easiest way to distinguish them is by file size.

[Con]

shameless bump

[Spartan094]

I am going to install Windows 7 after I backup all my files to my external 500 GB hard drive (literally all my files from my laptop's hard drive, hidden and not hidden) to wipe out all the files for a clean start when I put in 7. So I can pick and choose what I like since I only have 23 GB's left out of 250 :p

It's going to be a long 20 hours..

[Con]

Why would you back up every single file? Most of it you don't even need or will never use again.

[Spartan094]

Why would you back up every single file? Most of it you don't even need or will never use again.
I am to lazy to pick out the folders and files I need. Then again your right, just a waste of time but meh its a Saturday. I tried installing Windows 7 twice just doing the normal thing without wiping my stuff off, and it never finished upgrading for some unknown reason just froze, so that's why I am backing up every file even thou I'll delete it after I am finished picking out what I need.

Kinda stuiped but meh I got nothing better to do except watch cartoons or movies.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

Install Windows 7 on a different drive. Then you copy the files you need WHEN YOU NEED THEM. After a month you will realize you haven't touched your old HDD for ages => your old files are old => reformat.