Check out this fucking gun

[Cortexian]

that we just bought to replace our busted ass .308 carbine. Basically the .308 stopped ejecting shells when you cycled the bolt, it's still operable and still shoots true but it would cost a stupid amount to repair or replace the bolt. So we've decided to retire it to be our "secondary" scoped shooter since it poses a high risk of jamming, and it's a bitch to reload since you've got to shake the spent cartridge out...

So we went to the new Bass Pro Shop today and found this little baby:
http://freelancer.lancersedge.com/pics/Browning%20BAR%2030-06/DSCN4198.jpg

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More pictures:

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Operational function pictures:

Magazine release:
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Magazine is then removable from the "floorplate" with a light pull:
http://freelancer.lancersedge.com/pics/Browning%20BAR%2030-06/031331x1l.jpg
(Image is from Browning website)

Bolt catch/release:
http://freelancer.lancersedge.com/pics/Browning%20BAR%2030-06/DSCN4214.jpg

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And then you just pull the cocking handle back to cycle the bolt or lock it in place depending on the position of the magazine.


It's a Browning BAR LongTrac Stalker 30-06 (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=002B&cat_id=031&type_id=331) that we've mounted a Leupold VX-II 3-9x40mm adjustable zoom scope (http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/vx-ii-riflescopes/vx-ii-3-9x40mm/) on. Maybe I'll be able to bag a third White-Tail deer (got a Doe and a Buck within a few hours last Sunday), a couple Mule deer, and possibly an Elk (3 point or larger only) this season with this bad boy... Did I mention that it's semi-automatic with a four round magazine? Basically it's as good as decked out as Canadian hunting law will allow...

Black and Gray with Gold trim!!! :downsdance:

We were originally going to get a BAR ShortTrack (Oil Finish) in .308 (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=002B&cat_id=031&type_id=534) but they broke the fucking thing while trying to mount the scope... The Stalker that we have now is better looking, more powerful, and almost $200 more because of that, but they gave it to us for the price of the ShortTrac! :D

[Advancebo]

nice

[Rook]

j/w who is we

you and (?)

[Cojafoji]

that is a very, very nice hunting rifle.

[Cortexian]

j/w who is we

you and (?)
My father, we hunt together and I tell him what guns are good and show him how they work, clean them, and maintain them.

This one is actually registered to me because when we bought the ShortTrac that they broke, they had to "buy it" back off of us and then sell us the new one. The registration system doesn't let you buy and sell firearms that quickly, for fear that someone might buy one for someone who shouldn't have one and all that. The other three guns we own (Benelli Super Black Eagle, 308 Carbine, and a 30-30 Lever-Action) are all registered to my father.


that is a very, very nice hunting rifle.
Thanks Coja! It was this or a Benelli R1 (http://www.benelliusa.com/rifles/index.php) synthetic with iron sights, since the Benelli cost almost as much as the BAR and Leupold combined...

[Aerowyn]

I like handguns/revolvers a lot better than I do rifles.... someday I will have the Smith and Wesson Model 500 magnum Q___Q

http://www.pheasantridgeguns.com/images/sw500.jpg

[Cortexian]

I like handguns/revolvers a lot better than I do rifles.... someday I will have the Smith and Wesson Model 500 magnum Q___Q

~snip~
Have you ever fired one of those? I enjoyed the Model 500 I shot at the range last year but Revolvers just aren't by thing. I much preferred the Heckler & Koch Mark 23 .45 ACP:
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:neckbeard:

$2,300.00 CAD

:ohdear:

But this thread is about rifles! Specifically hunting rifles! I can't get over how good the gold/brass/whatever trim looks on this gun...

[ICEE]

Wow very cool gun there. I like the loading mechanism... I've never seen that before

[Cortexian]

Wow very cool gun there. I like the loading mechanism... I've never seen that before
God I think I'll fall in love with it for one simple reason, here in Canada you cannot have your firearm loaded in the vehicle while you're hunting... You can see how this may be a problem if we're driving along and see something we can shoot, which is usually how we hunt, driving along trails and cut-lines and such until we see something. Now, I can't tell you how many times I've dropped my magazine or bullets in the vehicle and can't find them until we get out...

Now, this gun lets you load your magazine and keep it attached to the gun so you can jump out and fold the mag in and load it in a second or two. I can tell you that it's a pain to reload while attached to the "floorplate", but that's not a big issue for me.

[t3h m00kz]

thats a p blingin trigger you got there

[TeeKup]

Am I the only one who heard the Heavy's voice when reading the thread title?

[Cojafoji]

God I think I'll fall in love with it for one simple reason, here in Canada you cannot have your firearm loaded in the vehicle while you're hunting... You can see how this may be a problem if we're driving along and see something we can shoot, which is usually how we hunt, driving along trails and cut-lines and such until we see something. Now, I can't tell you how many times I've dropped my magazine or bullets in the vehicle and can't find them until we get out...

Now, this gun lets you load your magazine and keep it attached to the gun so you can jump out and fold the mag in and load it in a second or two. I can tell you that it's a pain to reload while attached to the "floorplate", but that's not a big issue for me.
real men hunt with grenades.

[Ganon]

real men hunt with grenades.

bare hands




HA

[Kalub]

I like handguns/revolvers a lot better than I do rifles.... someday I will have the Smith and Wesson Model 500 magnum Q___Q




Fired one of those once... wasn't the greatest thing in the world, but since you're a girl... nah jk



It was AWESOME~!!

[JERK]

BAR's alright I guess but you should have gone w/ a MAS-49/56 imo because the 7.5x54mm round is just as good w/ the kind of game you're going to be taking on w/ .30-06 (except maybe the bigger stuff but all that's probably too far north for you), + there are a lot of them that are chambered in 7.62x51mm if you don't like using weird French rounds

[Cortexian]

BAR's alright I guess but you should have gone w/ a MAS-49/56 imo because the 7.5x54mm round is just as good w/ the kind of game you're going to be taking on w/ .30-06 (except maybe the bigger stuff but all that's probably too far north for you), + there are a lot of them that are chambered in 7.62x51mm if you don't like using weird French rounds
Or I could buy a brand new gun instead of an old war era gun in some weird caliber. Now seriously, I live in Canada and constantly go hunting in northern Alberta where there are tons of Elk and Moose... To far north for me? Are you daft? :allears:

The first gun I ever hunted with back when I was 12 was a 30-06, it's a great deer gun as long as you aren't using some wonky ammunition.

[JERK]

Or I could buy a brand new gun instead of an old war era gun in some weird caliber. Now seriously, I live in Canada and constantly go hunting in northern Alberta where there are tons of Elf and Moose... To far north for me? Are you daft? :allears:

The first gun I ever hunted with back when I was 12 was a 30-06, it's a great deer gun as long as you aren't using some wonky ammunition.
I'm not trying to talk shit about the .30-06 because it's a great round, it's just that 7.5x54 is just as capable for taking every single type of game that I have seen you say you hunt as .30-06

also there's absolutely nothing wrong with an "old war era gun" unless you're one of those fools who absolutely HAS to be on THE cutting edge of technology and if so please gtfo

I don't own any guns atm (NY gun laws are shit) but I used to use a MAS-49/56 to hunt with my uncle back in Jersey when I was a kid/teenager so it's prob. just a bias there but I distinctly remember hunting with a BAR aswell and while it was a great gun in of itself the MAS-49/56 has always just seemed better to me


tons of Elf
Santa would get p. mad if he found out you were hunting his elves!

[Cortexian]

I'm not trying to talk shit about the .30-06 because it's a great round, it's just that 7.5x54 is just as capable for taking every single type of game that I have seen you say you hunt as .30-06
And I'll bet 7.5x54 is harder to find and more expensive than .30-06 as well. As you say, it's just as capable, so why should I consider the unconventional expensive round? Only reason I can think of is to be unique from everyone else, though we've now got a large collection of calibers to choose from... .270, .30-30, .303 British, .308, .30-06, and a 12 gauge Benelli Super Black Eagle for birds and slugs.

However, 7.5x54 probably isn't as bad as our buddies new gun, he just got a brand new Weatherby .30-378 as a gift from some of his friends... Guess how much a box of ammunition is?

$119.99 CAD / $149.99 for the "premium" ammunition. :ohdear:

Can't wait to see what it does to a deer, obviously it's meant for good long 700+ yard shots but we almost always hit around 300-350 yards.


also there's absolutely nothing wrong with an "old war era gun" unless you're one of those fools who absolutely HAS to be on THE cutting edge of technology and if so please gtfo
You haven't seen my computer specs have you? I love buying the latest and greatest whenever possible, why? Because it means it's most likely going to last you a long time and function great up until the point in time where you need something new.


I don't own any guns atm (NY gun laws are shit) but I used to use a MAS-49/56 to hunt with my uncle back in Jersey when I was a kid/teenager so it's prob. just a bias there but I distinctly remember hunting with a BAR aswell and while it was a great gun in of itself the MAS-49/56 has always just seemed better to me
I think you may be thinking of an older war era BAR here... Yes the one we picked up is loosely based on that rifle, and I use the word "loosely" for good reason.


Santa would get p. mad if he found out you were hunting his elves!
Congratulations you found a typo! I always make that typo for some reason as well, no idea why.

[JERK]

You haven't seen my computer specs have you? I love buying the latest and greatest whenever possible, why? Because it means it's most likely going to last you a long time and function great up until the point in time where you need something new.
computers and firearms are completely different if you apply a school of thought that really only works to electronics to other things like firearms or toasters or whatever then you need help



I think you may be thinking of an older war era BAR here... Yes the one we picked up is loosely based on that rifle, and I use the word "loosely" for good reason.
no it was one of the early 90s production BARs if I was talking about the M1918 browning automatic rifle I would have said so but I said BAR which is a different thing

[Cortexian]

computers and firearms are completely different if you apply a school of thought that really only works to electronics to other things like firearms or toasters or whatever then you need help
Really? So you're saying that buying new with the intention of using it for as long as possible without replacing it is a bad idea? And that I'd be much better off buying hand-me-down or used stuff and investing in fixing them up and maintaining them? Sounds like a gigantic waste of money to me, but if you've got the money and time to shop around for decent relics, have at it!


no it was one of the early 90s production BARs if I was talking about the M1918 browning automatic rifle I would have said so but I said BAR which is a different thing
The m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle is commonly referred to as a "BAR" (It's an acronym in, case you didn't know).

[blind]

new products generally don't last very long :-3

[JERK]

The m1918 Browning Automatic Rifle is commonly referred to as a "BAR" (It's an acronym in, case you didn't know).
what a coincidence so is the Browning BAR (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/family.asp?webflag_=002B) which is the rifle this thread is about & coincidentally the rifle I was talking about

[Cortexian]

The new ones don't stand for "Browning Automatic Rifle" (it's not automatic), I believe it's simply a designation.

[JERK]

The new ones don't stand for "Browning Automatic Rifle" (it's not automatic), I believe it's simply a designation.
doesn't change the fact that they're called the BAR and that's what I'm going to call them

[Cortexian]

:fail:

[EX12693]

BARetta rifles are better. heh. Heck, Beretta pistols are better. 93-R FTW.

[Cortexian]

No, Baretta are overpriced, just like Benelli.

Also most are restricted or prohibited.

[blind]

lol guns.
play video games :S

[JERK]

Also most are restricted or prohibited.
I would laugh @ you about how shitty canadian gun laws are but I live in new york so you probably have it better than me

[Horns]

No, Baretta are overpriced, just like Benelli.

Also most are restricted or prohibited.

Someone has never delt with Beretta.

[Cortexian]

Someone has never delt with Beretta.
Hey, I'm not saying they aren't good, we were considering purchasing a Benelli R1 rifle instead of what we did... The Browning we have is well priced and built on a tried and true design.

Haven't dealt with Beretta before, because like I said, most are restricted or prohibited and therefore not worth buying... No need to spend that much on something I could only use on a range. Though I haven't dealt with any gun manufactures before either, mainly due to the fact that I've been able to fix every single problem that we've had, or I was able to find a friend that was able to do it.

[EX12693]

Too bad. I live in Cali but I go to Oregon all the time now, and they have almost no gun restrictions. :realsmug:

[Spartan094]

Holy crap, niceeee.
I need to shoot a larger caliber sniper rifle other then a .22 :saddowns: such a recoil less weapon, they make revolvers using a .22 cal which I have and is a cheap ass weapon and jams alot.

[Cortexian]

.22 is lame, smallest I would ever use is .223

[Cojafoji]

.22 is lame, smallest I would ever use is .223
you don't own a plinker? shame on you.

[PenGuin1362]

Indeed shame. Any decent gun owner would have some kind of .22. I'm considering getting an mp5 chambered for .22. They're just fun and cheap as balls.

[Cortexian]

I'd get a .223 chambered SL8 for plinking if I could afford a plinker/varmint gun. However I can't afford a whole different range of guns so we don't have a dedicated plinker atm.

Why can't I plink with this new gun :saddowns:

[Cojafoji]

I'd get a .223 chambered SL8 for plinking if I could afford a plinker/varmint gun. However I can't afford a whole different range of guns so we don't have a dedicated plinker atm.

Why can't I plink with this new gun :saddowns:
because the plink turns into a dull thunk, and there's a big hole. a plinker is just something you wander around the woods with man. c'mon, a plinker.

[ICEE]

Indeed shame. Any decent gun owner would have some kind of .22. I'm considering getting an mp5 chambered for .22. They're just fun and cheap as balls.

That does sound fun. Also every good hitman uses a .22. They have enough power to enter the skull, but not enough power to exit it. Instead, they ricochet around inside and destroy the brain.

http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/thegurglingcod/images/2008/02/12/the_more_you_know2.jpg

[Cortexian]

That does sound fun. Also every good hitman uses a .22. They have enough power to enter the skull, but not enough power to exit it. Instead, they ricochet around inside and destroy the brain.
Every good hitman doesn't divulge the fact that he is or was a hitman, let alone the methods related to how he carries out hits...

Also, the amount of force required to enter the skull is EXTREMELY small depending on the area. Take the back of an eye socket or through an ear as an example, a friend of my dads killed a Moose with a .22 by shooting it through the ear and into the brain.

[ICEE]

Thats just common sense freelancer.

[Cortexian]

I'm just saying, unless you've killed a person by shooting them in the head with a .22 and then autopsied their head to see what kind of damage it did, you're just spewing nonsense.

[Limited]

Unless you live in the outback, and have to shoot shit to survive, I see no reason to have this rifle.

Do you at least eat what you kill?

[paladin]

Unless you live in the outback, and have to shoot shit to survive, I see no reason to have this rifle.

Do you at least eat what you kill?

I cut their head off and hang it on my wall.

Really though, the only animal I keep is deer. I give it to my girl friends dad and he butchers it and does what ever with the meat. :raise:

But fox, gopher, skunk, porky pine, and occasionally coyote; who wants to eat that shit?

[Limited]

Then why the hell do you shoot it? Personally I dont see hunting as a sport, you kill it, you eat it. If not then waste of time and waste of a life.

[Cojafoji]

Then why the hell do you shoot it? Personally I dont see hunting as a sport, you kill it, you eat it. If not then waste of time and waste of a life.
don't forget that the hides of those animals are valuable. but yes, i agree, if you're going to trudge out into the forest, hunt, and kill an animal, you better be damned ready to field strip, and eventually eat it. hunting for sport is disgusting.

[Ganon]

I'd kill so they don't overpopulate and starve. I do not hunt though, I let people who really want to do it take care of it~

[Dwood]

I'm not going to impede a person hunting but I personally typically don't like killing things unless they're in a vidja game.

[Cortexian]

Unless you live in the outback, and have to shoot shit to survive, I see no reason to have this rifle.

Do you at least eat what you kill?
We don't hunt for sport or trophies, people that do should be shot themselves. We hunt because we love wild meat, and because it significantly reduces the cost of meat groceries.