Halo Reach leaked shots! (spoilers?)

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

My buddy sent me these.
http://i34.tinypic.com/iqv6tg.jpg
http://i37.tinypic.com/1zntr3d.jpg
http://i33.tinypic.com/taldzk.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/e8k12a.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/2z6gm5g.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/2r3ed8y.jpgp
http://i33.tinypic.com/2q9vwgn.jpg
Discuss.

[ultama121]

Neat. :o

[Saggy]

it is a one shot battle rifle with 12 rounds, pretty powerful and effective long range http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif

and now for the bad part...
http://i34.tinypic.com/e8k12a.jpg
This is what the HUD looks like. In the bottom left, you can see your squadmates health and names. Right above the radar shows what perks you are carrying. When I played there were 3 perks-sprinting, cloaking, and halogram. The sprinting makes you run when you hold LB, cloaking makes you invisible (when you cloak your radar jams and you can't really hear anything around you). The halogram creates a halogram of yourself, so enemies will shoot at both.

Taken from the MLG Boards (http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=280142)

[teh lag]

Hate the laser, hate the "BR", hate the HUD. Also not really digging the "cloak" or "hologram" perks.

I hope to god these are fake. That art style really rubs me the wrong way.

[Daishi]

Did anyone else notice the needler that got buttfucked by the bastard child of a carbine and a FRG?

[Cagerrin]

Anybody else think Mass Effect when they saw this?

e@daishi: needler/splazer?

[=sw=warlord]

Health bars for the win....

[Delta4907]

The second to last pic seems sort of like a spartan laser\needler crossover type weapon, at least, that's what it looks like.

[Lateksi]

Why would anyone want that ugly ass scope for a BR? Rest looks really cool imo.

[ODX]

So uh, why is it using the Halo 3 engine? >_>

[teh lag]

One more thing :

http://i38.tinypic.com/2r3ed8y.jpgp

I'm probably paranoid and coming up with any reason to believe this isn't real, but am I the only one who thinks that looks a hell of a lot like the H1 hog's textures?


So uh, why is it using the Halo 3 engine? >_>

Uh... how can you tell the engine from poop-cam pics? ">_>"

[Delta4907]

You can't really tell it's the engine from Halo 3 just by a few externally taken screenshots. Keep in mind its obviously still in development, and they might've just used some halo 3 assets as place holders until the new ones are complete. Remember the original halo 3 spartan laser screenshot, that was using the halo 2 first person arms? This (http://www.bungie.net/images/games/halo3/screenshots/H3_MPAlpha_LaserFP.jpg) one.

[Limited]

Why would anyone want that ugly ass scope for a BR? Rest looks really cool imo.
BR looks fucking hideous my god. I like the other things, lazer looks cool, does any one else see this as a new attachment for hog?

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/6340/hog.png

Looks cool, although just looks like Halo 3 + 1, I thought reach was going to be CRAZY different.

Cool pictures though, so its already in testing phase? They let some random douche in to play.

[CodeBrain]

I'm probably paranoid and coming up with any reason to believe this isn't real, but am I the only one who thinks that looks a hell of a lot like the H1 hog's textures?

Don't worry, you're not paranoid. I see that as well.

Either this is one hell of a trollfest, or it could be real.

......

Someone is gonna ask Bungie what these screenshots mean, I just know it <_>

[Cagerrin]

I'm probably paranoid and coming up with any reason to believe this isn't real, but am I the only one who thinks that looks a hell of a lot like the H1 hog's textures?
Keep in mind this is set before H1. It's entirely possible that they're using similar textures, and you can't exactly tell how detailed they are.

[teh lag]

Keep in mind this is set before H1. It's entirely possible that they're using similar textures, and you can't exactly tell how detailed they are.

It's just I would have expected them to stay more with the h2/3-era aesthetic design.

Also the pretty glaring hard-edge of the wheel right next to the gun.

[ODX]

Uh... how can you tell the engine from poop-cam pics? ">_>"Not quite sure, but it just doesn't look any different from Halo 3, even seeing it through poop-cam pictures.

[Darqeness]

For everyone complaining about the look of the BR, I don't think it's the same BR as in Halo 2 and 3 or if it's a BR at all. There was a wide range of prototype BR's going around the UNSC before the final design seen in the games. This could just be one of them.

Everything's obviously in Alpha stage. You can see the UV stretching in the cliffs in the first pic as well as a bunch of reused Halo 3 assets. I really hope the HUD is a placeholder. Doesn't look too good to me.

Also I think I spy a new type of rocket launcher in the 3rd pic. Look like a cross between the standard rocket launcher and the missile pod. Return of the target seeking rockets from Halo 2?

[English Mobster]

So... This is NOT going to be class-based, as many had been predicting, but more of a Rainbow 6/COD/H3 hybrid?

I'm reserving all judgments until Bungie gives us some official pics; I suggest you do the same.

Also, H1 hog textures may be placeholder, or it may be heavily inspired by the H1 'Hog.
This IS set directly before the events of H1, after all...

[Delta4907]

The guy who took the pics and posted them on MLG forums, says that it holds 12 shots per magazine, and fires one shot at time, but has a longer range than the battle rifle. The needler\carbine thing fires needles (obviously), and causes a superdetonation when 3 needles contact a target. With only 3 needles requireing an explosion, it most definately fires slower than the normal needler, or the carbine for that matter.

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6005717#post6005717

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6006083#post6006083

[Good_Apollo]

Perks...in my SP? :smith:

[Advancebo]

Cool

[TeeKup]

This is...interesting to say the least. I have high hopes, but I'm reserving final judgment.

[Advancebo]

Get this over to Darkshallfall or Zteam or something :realsmug:

[ShadowSpartan]

Get this over to Darkshallfall or Zteam or something :realsmug:
This. I would love to get my hands on a copy of it.

[Heathen]

another fps :[

[Advancebo]

Original images
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176784

http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/839.jpg
http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/840.jpg
http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/841.jpg
http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/842.jpg
http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/843.jpg
http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/844.jpg
http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/845.jpg

[FRain]

Also, the BR I think the model just got jacked and theres some messed up stuff.

Also, baww your eyes out if it's not class based.

No one leaked or promised it was going to be class based shooter, I would have liked it to be, but bungie seems to have found what kind of game appeals to the public. If you had a stunt that you pulled, that everyone liked, but you know sucked, and you got lots of money, and there was another one that some people liked, but was really good for you, would you do the one taht would get you more money, or the one you would like more?

E: and as far as i can see, I can't even fuckin tell if it's a class based or not.

EE: this shouldn't turn into a "aww its not class based like i expected fuck bungie boycott them destroy you h3 disk, cancel your preorders" like MW2 was.
Your choice, man.

PS: I am not against class based shooters, but I didn't bet $1,000,000,000,000,001 on it and all of my hopes and dreams on it, either.

[Heathen]

I like the BR.

Looks cooler.

[t3h m00kz]

Safe to say that's not a BR. Don't know what the hell it is. Look at the ammo counter, the bullets are pretty big, it holds less shots? Maybe they're bringing back single-fire to please all the Halo 1 fans.

I like the needle weapon, it's out of the box of the normal stuff. The ammo counter's making it look like some sort of slow-firing type of weapon. Judging from the crosshair I'd say a long-range weapon?

I also see an AR behind the pause menu lol

[Delta4907]

Safe to say that's not a BR. Don't know what the hell it is. Look at the ammo counter, the bullets are pretty big, it holds less shots? Maybe they're bringing back single-fire to please all the Halo 1 fans.

I like the needle weapon, it's out of the box of the normal stuff. The ammo counter's making it look like some sort of slow-firing type of weapon. Judging from the crosshair I'd say a long-range weapon?
Sigh..

The guy who took the pics and posted them on MLG forums, says that it holds 12 shots per magazine, and fires one shot at time, but has a longer range than the battle rifle. The needler\carbine thing fires needles (obviously), and causes a superdetonation when 3 needles contact a target. With only 3 needles requireing an explosion, it most definately fires slower than the normal needler, or the carbine for that matter.

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6005717#post6005717

http://www.mlgpro.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6006083#post6006083

[t3h m00kz]

sorry that was a page back and I didn't read it all because I'm lazy?

[Heathen]

Uh, a grade system?

Is that like a level system?

[BobtheGreatII]

Uh, a grade system?

Is that like a level system?

More than likely...

I don't know... by the looks of the shotty pictures, the engine has quite a few improvements. I actually like it. Until we see some better pics though, that will be hard to tell. But still awesome. Whatever the BR hybrid thing is, I like it. And I like the spartan laser too.:golfclap:

[Kornman00]

The fact that it says "Start solo game" instead of just "Campaign" makes me raise an eye.

Also, the "Reset Level"...I could have sworn it was "Reset Mission" in H3/ODST?

Those two changes don't make much sense to me with the Bungie Way

I'm skeptical about these being real right now. However, there appears to be some console debug messages in one of those images...which favors these being authentic; if they could actually be read anyway.

[StankBacon]

Original images
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3176784


http://media.1up.com/media/03/7/6/8/lg/840.jpg







looks like the :iamafag: smiley in the reticle.


-edit- am i the only one who is hoping this isn't class based?

[paladin]

My buddy at bungie just said... wtf

[=sw=warlord]

The fact that it says "Start solo game" instead of just "Campaign" makes me raise an eye.

Also, the "Reset Level"...I could have sworn it was "Reset Mission" in H3/ODST?

Those two changes don't make much sense to me with the Bungie Way

I'm skeptical about these being real right now. However, there appears to be some console debug messages in one of those images...which favors these being authentic; if they could actually be read anyway.
Little bit of advice, don't look at that ship shot too much.:realsmug:

[ICEE]

Hate the laser, hate the "BR", hate the HUD. Also not really digging the "cloak" or "hologram" perks.

I hope to god these are fake. That art style really rubs me the wrong way.

with you on this 100%

This stuff looks gross

[BobtheGreatII]

I just want some confirmation on these.

[Arteen]

I hope that new needle-based weapon is like a needle sniper. I love needler snipers in CE. So much fun!

[Heathen]

The fact that it says "Start solo game" instead of just "Campaign" makes me raise an eye.

Also, the "Reset Level"...I could have sworn it was "Reset Mission" in H3/ODST?

Those two changes don't make much sense to me with the Bungie Way

I'm skeptical about these being real right now. However, there appears to be some console debug messages in one of those images...which favors these being authentic; if they could actually be read anyway.
if your talking about the 3 or 4 lines of text:
Objective number 1(2, 3, 4) goes in this space here.

But while typing this I noticed the little green text and you are right it does look like debug text.

E: and the needles look so much more badass when they are jagged.

[Limited]

Placeholders? Probably yet game art should be nearly done. So most work should be nearly at final stages, just not all pretty yet...

You guys seem to forget Reach is before Halo 1. So vehicles will look like old tech and weapons won't be as refined because they have had little contact with the covenant.

Menu is weird it's at wrong angle it terms of parelell to the screen and it's on right hand side usually it's on left.

[UnevenElefant5]

Little bit of advice, don't look at that ship shot too much.:realsmug:
:(

[Heathen]

:(

what? Why? also, I tried to clean them up a little :/

http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1360
http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1361
http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1362
http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1363
http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1364
http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1365
http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1366
All I did was saturate a little to get rid of that washed look, reduce noise and sharpen :/

[t3h m00kz]

I must be one of the only dudes who likes how the new stuff looks.

[Heathen]

I must be one of the only dudes who likes how the new stuff looks.

fuck I love it.

Brb, going call CSI to get that magic ZOOMENHANCE bullshit to read the text.

[ODX]

"Objective number 1 goes in this space here..."

Well, seems like something Bungie would put there, may very well be legit then.
If not, whoever made this didn't have too bad of an idea of what it could have been.

[Heathen]

and if they can make shit of this quality, who cares if its fake?

[Advancebo]

That AR reticle is lol huge...

[Heathen]

they are all lolhuge.

[=sw=warlord]

:(
im talking about that capital ship in the valley in the mlg forums.:gonk:

[Heathen]

im talking about that capital ship in the valley in the mlg forums.:gonk:

Uh...what?

[Needles]

Looks interesting.

I just really want to see how good the spartan allies are =P.

[StankBacon]

looks like the :iamafag: smiley in the reticle.



noone has any comments about this?

[Advancebo]

noone has any comments about this?

I dont see it :iamafag:

[Heathen]

I see it, its facing the other way.

Its clear as day

[thehoodedsmack]

It's actually not there. That's just stuff getting in the way, making it look like the :iamafag: face.

[Heathen]

Obviously.

[Arteen]

You guys seem to forget Reach is before Halo 1. So vehicles will look like old tech and weapons won't be as refined because they have had little contact with the covenant.
Reach is immediately before Halo 1. It would be the same tech. All the Halo games take place within a period of few months in 2552, at the end of a decades-long war. There's no story reason for the diversity of weapons within a two-month span. The only reason we're only seeing them now is because no one at Bungie thought of or implemented them before.

[Heathen]

Reach is immediately before Halo 1. It would be the same tech. All the Halo games take place within a period of few months in 2552, at the end of a decades-long war. There's no story reason for the diversity of weapons within a two-month span. The only reason we're only seeing them now is because no one at Bungie thought of or implemented them before.

Yes, I was about to mention this. The halo games take place within like...3 months or so. I heard it today on Halo Waypoint.

[Cagerrin]

Reach is immediately before Halo 1. It would be the same tech. All the Halo games take place within a period of few months in 2552, at the end of a decades-long war. There's no story reason for the diversity of weapons within a two-month span. The only reason we're only seeing them now is because no one at Bungie thought of or implemented them before.
The UNSC seem to have used Reach as a testing ground for a lot of experimental stuff(see HIGHCOM Armoury Omega), so I'm not entirely surprised at the variety of weapons.

[Advancebo]

http://i36.tinypic.com/mkhvlu.jpg

[Kornman00]

are those fingers I see in the monitor's frame's reflection :q:??

[Lateksi]

Yeah, why's the guy publishing a shot of his keyboard? I came up with all kinds of stuff in my head. But it's XBox.

[Heathen]

gee thanks

[Kornman00]

Seeing has how there is a dual monitor setup this can mean:
1. This is a development setup. Left view is for the target xbox while the right is for the development pc. Keyboard is for 360 input.
2. The user has two xboxes, so both monitors could be hooked up to both machines.

Also, the power sockets are conveniently setup with the desk space (IMO). This could be by luck or by actual design...as in a studio or home testing area.

My best assessment is that a friend of an employee or tester (as all of Bungie recently took the game home) used their shotty cell phone to raise the size of their epeen.

[SilentChaos]

what? Why? also, I tried to clean them up a little :/

http://www.modacity.net/forums/picture.php?albumid=70&pictureid=1364

All I did was saturate a little to get rid of that washed look, reduce noise and sharpen :/

Did anyone else see the resemblance of this and a50 (The Truth and Reconciliation)?

Also, don't forget people have made believable leaks in the past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OnCCJ4vuBE

[t3h m00kz]

this guy is such an idiot for taking pictures of the monitors.

All Bungie has to do is watch security cam footage on that monitor. This guy's fucked.

Assuming this isn't take-home, which I wouldn't think it is.

[Kornman00]

It looks like there is a window close by on the left (possibly also causing the light source on the monitor too). I don't recall there being windows in the main play test area at Bungie's Kirkland Way studio. All the more support that this is a development terminal or someone's home setup.

If I was the studio, I would put hard to remove labels on the kits to act as a watermark in these cases. That or have on visual record where each box is setup at, office or home :downs:

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Frankly I think the fake mainmenu looks better than the real one.

[Advancebo]

It looks like there is a window close by on the left (possibly also causing the light source on the monitor too). I don't recall there being windows in the main play test area at Bungie's Kirkland Way studio. All the more support that this is a development terminal or someone's home setup.

If I was the studio, I would put hard to remove labels on the kits to act as a watermark in these cases. That or have on visual record where each box is setup at, office or home :downs:

Havent ya read last weeks Bungie update? Every Bungie employee recieved a playtest copy of Reach.

[Limited]

Havent ya read last weeks Bungie update? Every Bungie employee recieved a playtest copy of Reach.
Havent ya read korns posts?


My best assessment is that a friend of an employee or tester (as all of Bungie recently took the game home) used their shotty cell phone to raise the size of their epeen.

:D I agree though, what fool would take pictures of it in-shop?

[Advancebo]

Havent ya read korns posts?



:D I agree though, what fool would take pictures of it in-shop?

bungie fools :realsmug:

[Heathen]

Tom Morello[sp?] is too stupid to fake things well.

[ejburke]

At the end of the day, it's just a videogame. Nothing of value was gained or lost from this leak. I don't see it as a security problem anyone needs to go out of their way to solve with radio isotope signatures or retinal scans.

Sure, Microsoft's PR cycle for Reach just took a slight hit, because they can no longer dole out every measured morsel of information leading up to the release in order to generate maximum hype and secure optimal levels of pre-orders. Boo hoo for them.

And sure, if any of this leaked stuff gets cut, Bungie will be held accountable by fanboys for some impassioned, poorly thought-out reason or another. But ultimately, this information is unimportant.

[Kornman00]

I would laugh if this was the 'shit that was cut' build and none of it makes it to release :downs:

[Limited]

Tom Morello[sp?] is too stupid to fake things well.
Its been proven he didnt release them, he just stole them and bashed on his name, in paint.


At the end of the day, it's just a videogame. Nothing of value was gained or lost from this leak. I don't see it as a security problem anyone needs to go out of their way to solve with radio isotope signatures or retinal scans.
Its a big problem. Companies dont want their "trade secrets" shown, they dont want other companie seeing and idea, then bashing it out quicker and releasing it before Reach comes out. It HAS happened in the past many times, therefore its a real threat.

People might see these shots, and be like "oh that looks crap, I'm not buying". Some people are that stupid.

Then again people do say, any publicity is good publicity.

[Heathen]

Its been proven he didnt release them, he just stole them and bashed on his name, in paint.
oh, then that makes him even more :downs:



Its a big problem. Companies dont want their "trade secrets" shown, they dont want other companie seeing and idea, then bashing it out quicker and releasing it before Reach comes out. It HAS happened in the past many times, therefore its a real threat.

People might see these shots, and be like "oh that looks crap, I'm not buying". Some people are that stupid.

Then again people do say, any publicity is good publicity.
I do agree that it does do some damage, but I was becoming completely uninterested in this game until I saw those shots.

[=sw=warlord]

Im curious when the first official mentioning of this is announced because so far all bungie has done was banned anyone even mentioning the leak and made a mock of it in the update.
And even that wasn't really talking about it more of "excuse us while we clean the mess in the kitchen"

[Kornman00]

And even that wasn't really talking about it more of "excuse us while we clean the mess in the kitchen"
:saggy:

[Heathen]

link?

[Advancebo]

:saggy:

Keep it clean

[English Mobster]

I'm betting Halo: Reach beta deployment (or first news of when the beta deployment will be) is going to be Bungie's Valentine's Day present to us.

I don't expect much Reach news until then.

[FireDragon04]

I was hoping for a little christmas present for Bungie to do with Reach, we can wish right :allears:

The leaked screens do get me excited but they look mid-alpha stages so alot of this stuff could be very different by the time we get to play it.

[Lateksi]

Even though I have the beta key to this the more I look at these pics the more I'd want to have this game on PC. I bet it would work really well, maybe better than on Xbox, assuming the pics aren't fake and we're talking about a more tactical and teamwork-based shooter.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

The halo games are slowly getting a pc based game look to them.

[p0lar_bear]

AFAIK Reach is still early in development. If the images are real, nobody should believe anything shown in them, besides the fact that the game is coming along. Everything is subject to change and anyone to pass judgement on the game because of these shots is a fucking moron.

Being a community of mod developers that tend to take our hobby a little TOO seriously sometimes, this SHOULD be common sense.

[=sw=warlord]

AFAIK Reach is still early in development. If the images are real, nobody should believe anything shown in them, besides the fact that the game is coming along. Everything is subject to change and anyone to pass judgement on the game because of these shots is a fucking moron.

Being a community of mod developers that tend to take our hobby a little TOO seriously sometimes, this SHOULD be common sense.
Unless they did what they did with halo 2 this should be a sign of things to come though.
Even though things are subject to change they do usualy have some resonance to what will come in the final product even if it isnt exactly the same.

[p0lar_bear]

Still, everything should be taken with a grain of salt.

Think about it, they seem to be experimenting with perks. What if the perks turned out to be useless, or break gameplay somehow? What if, in response to that, they cut perks entirely? Hell, what if the concept of perks in Halo was simply fan speculation that started with a rumor and snowballed entirely from there, and is yet accepted as fact?

Well, everyone who looked at these images and read those posts would be disappointed when they get an official update detailing game features and the perks are missing. This would cause an unnecessary negative reaction from the fan base, because they didn't stop to think, "Wait, this is a leak of a game in development. Everything here might not be there later."

[Con]

This looks pretty damn nice IMO, and I'm curious to see how perks work. I don't doubt that it will be a quality game, and they have to add something new each game so I'm open to perks and these new weapons. Also, yay for health.

[Kornman00]

Think about it, they seem to be experimenting with perks. What if the perks turned out to be useless, or break gameplay somehow? What if, in response to that, they cut perks entirely? Hell, what if the concept of perks in Halo was simply fan speculation that started with a rumor and snowballed entirely from there, and is yet accepted as fact?

Yeah, I think the poster must not have been an educated Halo player...pretty sure they meant equipment (power-ups) which have been around since the dawn of the game, but didn't let you carry them until Halo 3

[Heathen]

Yeah, I think the poster must not have been an educated Halo player...pretty sure they meant equipment (power-ups) which have been around since the dawn of the game, but didn't let you carry them until Halo 3

I think they were set. Like a custom loadout. Not picked up as you go.

[English Mobster]

Well halo thar. (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378966)
This first mission was just like Halo 1's 2nd mission where you had to find the marines that crash landed throughout the map, but in halo reach you are finding spartans. It's a pretty big map, and the worthog was very useful for getting places. The worthog can carry as many as 5 people (the driver, the front passenger, the gunner, and two seats below the gunner that face left and right, not forward)

The second mission was pretty action packed. You start out getting dropped off, and the action immediately begins. You are with squadmates. Throughout this mission you have to cover your spartan friend (whos a girl) and give her coverage so that she can hack into the computer. There are 3 big guns on the map that she has to hack into. Hacking into them gains control of the gun, and I guess it gives them control of the air (you see banshees and hornets flying throughout the entire level)

The third stage is very similar to Truth and Reconciliation (the 3rd stage on Halo 1). You and another spartan have snipers. You have to get into the enemy base from the cliffs (you start out on the cliffs). While you go in the base, your spartan friend covers you from the cliffs above. At the end of this level, you save a bunch of scientists or marines (not really sure who they are actually). They are humans who refused to leave their site even though they ordered everyone to get out. At the end of the level you save them and get picked up by a pelican.

Those were the first 3 stages. As for gameplay, everyone on those forums are talking about the perks. I guess I kinda used the wrong word. It's not really a perk, but rather a device that you can pick up. You can only carry one at a time. I found 3 different devices in the first 3 missions-Halogram, cloak, and sprint. So it's not really a perk, like you would think from call of duty. They are just devices you pick up and that have cooldowns.

The new BR is the 12 round, 1 shot with the scope. I think it's more powerfull than the burst fire BR from halo 3.

The sniper rifle has a longer delay between shots (I was upset with this).

The gameplay seem VERY similar to the other halos. It still has that "slow" feeling. The enemies also fight the exact same way, even the hunters.

The new needler carbine gun is cool. It takes three shots to make the needles explode on someone. However, if that person has a shield, you have to take out the shield before the needles can stick. So this gun can be effective if you shoot grunts and jackals, that way they explode and do more damage. You can't just shoot an elite three times, you have to bring his shield down first, then when you shoot him 3 times when he doesnt have a shield, the needles explode.

When you cloak, your radar is jammed, so you see red dots everywhere. Also, you can't hear anything going on. It's like trying to hear someone say something when you are underwater.

There is a new worthog that shoots volley missles. It seemed very overpowered, but fun. It would shoot about 4-6 shots and they explode upon contact. Then there is about a 5 second wait. Then you can shoot again (basically a 5 second cooldown for every time you can fire).

I found something really extraordinary. In the middle of mission 3, you encounter a bunch of covenant fighting this big ass monster (it had tusks, it seemed like some sort of prehistoric animal)

When you see the covenant fighting the monster, you are told not to engage combat, but to just go by unnoticed. You stand and watch the covenant fighting the monster, only to see the covenant get owned.

You must understand that this game is still LOOONG from being done. People on the forums are making too early judgments, like saying the graphics were horrible. Well I played the game and the graphics were pretty bad. That's because they havn't finished it yet... In fact, they didn't even have human voice overs when someone would talk in the game.

Overall gameplay was about the same as the other Halos.
Enemies battles are similar too.
I don't know if you can dual wield.
They made me play through the first 3 missions.
The first mission was on a pretty big map, and I had to find other spartans on the map (similar to Halo 1's second stage where you have to find the crash landed marines).
Second stage was pretty action packed, main goal was to take control of several huge missile guns throughout the map, and provide coverage to a spartan that would hack into the guns and control them.
Third stage was very similar to Halo 1's 3rd stage, Truth and Reconciliation. You start with a sniper and cloaking perk, you sneak into an enemy base at night, and you shoot from cliffs.
This game WILL be on the circuit I KNOW IT FOR A FACT, I am an mlg 50 and was a level 40 in h2 hardcore and know what competitive IS!

[t3h m00kz]

god put it in spoilers plz

[English Mobster]

Thanks, Lag.
I thought I did spoiler it, but then again, if you were one to look at leaked shots of Reach, wouldn't you not care about potential spoilers, anyway?
There isn't even any plot revealed, just gameplay.

[Kornman00]

Kinda sounds like they are trying to do the Halo they originally intended for (especially with that animal thing)

[Good_Apollo]

Yeah one thing they never really talk about is the types of indigenous animals found on habitable worlds like Reach.

Color me intrigued.

[Heathen]

I didn't read it, but from what you guys have said in the last two posts, LOLHALOANIMALS?!

cool.

[Kornman00]

Yeah, hate to be a spoiler, but one of the achievements is "Gotta Ketchum All" which you unlock after killing each LOLHALOANIMAL type

[Warsaw]

Why is the female soldier ALWAYS the hacker?

[k4is3rxkh40s]

Why is the female soldier ALWAYS the hacker?

Because it's as close to the kitchen they can get on the battlefield :realsmug:

[English Mobster]

Actually, that would be the Galley.

[itszutak]

Why is the female soldier ALWAYS the hacker?
I thought one was a snoipah

[Warsaw]

Yeah, the female is always either the Sniper or the Spy/Hacker (TF2 notwithstanding).

[Inferno]

Or the pyro.

:eng101:

[Cortexian]

Or the pyro.

:eng101:

(TF2 notwithstanding).
hth~~

[annihilation]

I hope we fight elites here and not just brutes, grunts and jackels.
I'm so sick of brutes.

[Kornman00]

shit, I'd rather have brutes over buggers

fucking buggers

fuck :gonk:

I mean the character type is cool and all...but holy shit they rape you in swarms :ugh:

[English Mobster]

Elites WERE confirmed in that post I quoted.

[ICEE]

I wouldnt mind a combination of elites and brutes. Its what I was expecting in ODST.

[annihilation]

I wouldnt mind a combination of elites and brutes. Its what I was expecting in ODST.


Me neither. I liked it in Halo 2.
I didn't like the overpowered brutes though.

[Arteen]

shit, I'd rather have brutes over buggers

fucking buggers

fuck :gonk:

I mean the character type is cool and all...but holy shit they rape you in swarms :ugh:
I liked how they were done in Halo 2. They could fly around and all, but they had more health, came in smaller groups, and weren't nearly as frustratingly jittery. They were more interesting that way.

[Sever]

I especially liked the buggers in the sniper sections - it was like shooting clay pigeons and pop-up targets, but they would evade your potential shots if you trained your line of sight on them for a moment too long. I feel that in those sections they were never intended as a threat, but as interesting and effective target practice.

[t3h m00kz]

I used to practice no-scoping drones on Outskirts

Ah, fun shit

[Warsaw]

Hm...I would always play Outskirts with triple M6Cs, so it was a real shooting gallery for me. One of the challenges is trying to hit that camo elite with a flying canister...that is hilarious.

[t3h m00kz]

I don't think triple M6Cs would work well on Legendary, hehe

[Warsaw]

No, but Legendary in Halo 2 was never fun either. :realsmug:

[TeeKup]

Halo 2 Legendary was bullshit.

[t3h m00kz]

No, but Legendary in Halo 2 was never fun either. :realsmug:

Halo 2 Legendary was bullshit.

This is the talk of people who obviously aren't MLG :realsmug:
my head is soooo far up my ass right now <3

[=sw=warlord]

Am i the only one who is reminded of the odd assault rifle in first strike that will finds while in the castle base?
"Unlike the MA5B, this rifle had a longer barrel and stock, with a cutdown muzzle shroud.
A scope was mounted on an optics railing along the top of the rifle."
P133
http://i34.tinypic.com/iqv6tg.jpg

[Warsaw]

n u

:mech:

In all seriousness, I've never had any interaction with MLG in my life.

Fake E: ninja'd by =sw=warlord...

[AAA]

This is the talk of people who obviously aren't MLG :realsmug:
my head is soooo far up my ass right now <3

Mr. Looking Goods?




.

[annihilation]

http://i34.tinypic.com/iqv6tg.jpg

This looks like some kind of shotgun/BR combo.

[Kornman00]

Maybe they're Borderlandsing their weapons :realsmug:

[annihilation]

Maybe they're Borderlandsing their weapons :realsmug:

One could only hope.

[Disaster]

Oh. This would be bad ass with weapon customization.

[Warsaw]

Heh. That would be pretty cool, scraping together experimental parts to make a rifle.

Though from the shots, it looks more like they are Rainbow Six-ing the guns...

[Heathen]

Heh. That would be pretty cool, scraping together experimental parts to make a rifle.

Though from the shots, it looks more like they are Rainbow Six-ing the guns...

tacticool?

[Cortexian]

tacticool?
http://freelancer.modacity.net/pics/tacticool.jpg

http://freelancer.modacity.net/pics/Tacticool-gun.jpg

[FRain]

http://www.black-talon.org/RKBA/SG/Tacticool_870_bling.jpg

[ICEE]

such a bad shop.

that is also off topic

[Amit]

Am i the only one who is reminded of the odd assault rifle in first strike that will finds while in the castle base?
"Unlike the MA5B, this rifle had a longer barrel and stock, with a cutdown muzzle shroud.
A scope was mounted on an optics railing along the top of the rifle."

That was the completed BR, was it not?

[=sw=warlord]

That was the completed BR, was it not?
I don't think so as the battle rifle was in contact harvest 20 years before hand.

[Amit]

I don't think so as the battle rifle was in contact harvest 20 years before hand.

The one in contact harvest was a prototype. It was a prototype all the way up to the full production of the weapon in 2551 or 2552.

[=sw=warlord]

The one in contact harvest was a prototype. It was a prototype all the way up to the full production of the weapon in 2551 or 2552.
20 years of development seems a little long when you have a whole alliance of aliens wanting your extermination.:smith:
More over why would a bunch of farmers have a experimental rifle that would have little chance to be field tested?

[Amit]

20 years of development seems a little long when you have a whole alliance of aliens wanting your extermination.:smith:
More over why would a bunch of farmers have a experimental rifle that would have little chance to be field tested?

Yeah, that would be mind boggling. Either way, I'm quite sure this ugly looking gun is nothing we've heard about before.

[Kornman00]

Well if you think about it, Harvest marked the start of a very nasty war. If the BR was in development then, development/research could easily have been pushed aside or halted. Resources would have been pushed to other areas and weapons depots would have been tapped with blueprints of already approved weapons. In order for a weapon to not only finish the prototype phase and get pushed out, materials need to be allocated for the production and also assembly lines need to be built in order for those resources to be put to use.

During a taxing war like this, you wouldn't have all the time in the world to send the shipments (of which could easily be attacked by the more advance Covie forces) of supplies and personel to create such assembly lines in each part of the galaxy where their is a major UNSC outfit.

Just because it's the future doesn't mean everything is all George Jetson

[Heathen]

Well if you think about it, Harvest marked the start of a very nasty war. If the BR was in development then, development/research could easily have been pushed aside or halted. Resources would have been pushed to other areas and weapons depots would have been tapped with blueprints of already approved weapons. In order for a weapon to not only finish the prototype phase and get pushed out, materials need to be allocated for the production and also assembly lines need to be built in order for those resources to be put to use.

During a taxing war like this, you wouldn't have all the time in the world to send the shipments (of which could easily be attacked by the more advance Covie forces) of supplies and personel to create such assembly lines in each part of the galaxy where their is a major UNSC outfit.

Just because it's the future doesn't mean everything is all George Jetson
I doubt the writers had the ideas of wartime economy in their heads when writing this ;)

[=sw=warlord]

Kornman i seem to remember reading somewhere that technology tends to speed up in war's not slow down, look at the manhattan project for instance, if we hadn't been in such a desparate need to end the war soon we wouldn't have even looked into nuclear weapons.
Many modern technology used these days were made during war time.

[Warsaw]

Kornman i seem to remember reading somewhere that technology tends to speed up in war's not slow down, look at the manhattan project for instance, if we hadn't been in such a desparate need to end the war soon we wouldn't have even looked into nuclear weapons.
Many modern technology used these days were made during war time.

Advances speed up in areas that need them. For a service rifle, you aren't going to ditch your entire setup for a new gun when your current one works just fine for killing your enemy. Case in point, the Lee-Enfield; the Brits intended to replace it with a new rifle just before the First World War, but because they entered the war (:downs:), they couldn't do that. They needed to equip their men right then and there.

[=sw=warlord]

Advances speed up in areas that need them. For a service rifle, you aren't going to ditch your entire setup for a new gun when your current one works just fine for killing your enemy. Case in point, the Lee-Enfield; the Brits intended to replace it with a new rifle just before the First World War, but because they entered the war (:downs:), they couldn't do that. They needed to equip their men right then and there.
20 year's is a long stretch by anyones imagination.
And im pretty sure by the point of reach their going to be desparate and so will have long implemented the prototypes, even if its because they've run out of resources to keep repopulating old ammunition.

[Kornman00]

I doubt the writers had the ideas of wartime economy in their heads when writing this ;)
You underestimate the Bungie writers ;)


Many modern technology used these days were made during war time.
However, there is nothing really "unmodern" about the weapons seen in Halo 1. The BR didn't really had anything new to the mix except a different kind of fire power.

Also, the military sometimes doesn't have the right mind where it puts its money. Example? In the middle of two fucking over buget wars, the Army (not sure about other branches) changed its Class A uniform (the formal uniform, used for funerals and shit). That shit is in no way cheap to produce or buy. What was wrong with the old one? Nothing that required it to be changed right now.

[paladin]

Good thing you have only months left...

[Kornman00]

Yeah, I'm tired of working for a corporation who wastes money left and right.