Okay Mother Cluckers...

[Inferno]

I need 2 or 3 fucking textures painted and I'm sick of waiting on them. Mobster or Jean-Luc or someone needs to PM me or some shit so I can fucking release these maps.

I'm patching them up right now so they will be ready for release when I get the textures.

I want them done. I really really want them done. I want to be done with Halo CE once and for all and I have to get these maps out before I can be.

That is all.

[Limited]

If you had to, could you use photos?

[teh lag]

okay

how can we help?

[BloodyJabs]

k...
What can I do, and what kind of textures are we talking about?

[Jean-Luc]

Give me about...two hours then I can do some work.

[Inferno]

okay

how can we help?

Delta Lake

Terrain is unwrapped by needs a texture. Probably 1024x1024 or 2048x2048. There is a example in there of the halo 2 texture.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/Delta%20Lake.rar

This texture is for high ground. I painted it and it is the shittiest texture ever made. Needs to be redone.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/highground%20ground.tif

I just finished the new glass texture for omega. It turned out fine so that's not a problem.

I may post some more up if I come across anything else I want to fix.

edit-

Night school. Be back in 2 hours.
...
Well if my house doesn't stop smelling like smoke that is. That's kind of scary.

[LlamaMaster]

You expect other people to finish stuff for you? Let's see how many months this takes.

[flibitijibibo]

You expect other people to finish stuff for you? Let's see how many months this takes.

It's already taken several. Listen to Podacity/spam disaster for details.

[Dwood]

No wonder yoyov2 took so long.

[Disaster]

spam disaster for details.
:saddowns:

I've been busy with alot of shit lately. I actually found some time to work on it yesterday. Right after I wasted about 2 hours playing MW2. :-3

[Inferno]

You expect other people to finish stuff for you? Let's see how many months this takes.

1 person can't do everything.

[LlamaMaster]

1 person can't do everything.
I am.

[Inferno]

So your saying you could texture, model, unwrap, script, gameplay test, shade, and set up beta's for 11 maps all on your own without any help from anyone else?

I could do the textures myself but they would look like shit.

[LlamaMaster]

So your saying you could texture, model, unwrap, script, gameplay test, shade, and set up beta's for 11 maps all on your own without any help from anyone else?

I could do the textures myself but they would look like shit.
Everything but script, because i've never needed it. It would take me like 15 years for 11 maps though....

Wtf do you have 11 maps in WIP for?

Edit: I really have no idea what your working on....

[Inferno]

The biggest MP map pack for Halo. Ever.

Been working on it since I was like 13. Every map in it has gone through hundreds of versions and tests and I've reverted the tag set twice. Big shit.

[Con]

Edit: I really have no idea what your working on....
Know when those kids come along every once and a while and pitch some project then get discouraged by challenges, laziness, and Modacity members?

Inferno actually went through with it.

[Sel]

11 shit maps doesn't take a lot of work llamamaster, thought I would clear that up for you :) :)

[Heathen]

OH, thats why I am so confused!!!

Cucumbers is really inferno!

[Inferno]

11 shit maps doesn't take a lot of work llamamaster, thought I would clear that up for you :) :)

Lol. Says the guy that took like 6 months to make 1 shit map.


Know when those kids come along every once and a while and pitch some project then get discouraged by challenges, laziness, and Modacity members?

Inferno actually went through with it.

Who remembers the original thread? Back when my user name was like wankzta or something.

200 poly maps with random textures slapped on and fucking retarded weapons.

[ShadowSpartan]

200 poly maps with random textures slapped on and fucking retarded weapons.
Your maps haven't changed much since then have they? :p

[Inferno]

At least I make my own content.

:realsmug:

Oh yeah I went there.

[Gwunty]

http://www.modacity.net/forums/images/albumpics/thumbs/0/6162b6f4b8b468f150cbaea2669dcac7_3.gif?dl=12314565 94

[blind]

nobodys going to play any of the maps for more than one day
just saying. its halo's way.

[Heathen]

no, its CE dieing.

[English Mobster]

OH.
THERE YOU ARE.

Had to check my User CP to figure out where the fuck you went.

Yeah, I'll get on that texture for you. I've been on Xfire all day, you know. You can compare mine and Disaster's, see which you like better. It'll be an experiment in making good terrain.
E: THIS TEMPLATE IS 12 MB. HOLY FUCKING SHIT.
Why the HELL is this picture that big?
And actually, your example you have in here isn't that bad. It could go for a few contrast changes, yes, but it really isn't too bad at all.
EE: Oh. That's not the actual use of the template. That's what you want the template to LOOK like.

[ICEE]

wait, CN does things?

[Heathen]

wait, CN does things?

Its Inferno.

Gawd.

Put it somewhere that he is formerly Inferno.

But dont change it back until the agreement is over.

[ICEE]

Oh yeah because I'm supposed to know that shit.

[Inferno]

L2Modashitty Trends

Also. CNumbers. Being useful?

Lol like that will ever happen.

[Corndogman]

Oh yeah because I'm supposed to know that shit.

You should at least know that CN#s changed to Kyon ages ago. :eng101:

[Heathen]

Kyon is Cucumbers?

Kyoncumbers?

[Dwood]

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaat my world has turned upside down.

[English Mobster]

Still working on it, the canopy is the result of about 2 hours of playing with colors and filters, the beach a result of about 15 minutes of playing with colors and filters. The beach is the part I am currently working on.
Once I'm done with the beach, I'll put less-dense areas of foliage scattered about.
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq80/Mudkipz47/LakeUVWTemplate.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq80/Mudkipz47/examplerender.jpg
The canopy, IMO, doesn't seem dense enough (I don't think it appears that there is any depth at all), and the beach area needs some work, although I am totally clueless on what Inferno wants me to do there. This is Harbinger, right? So where's the Harbinger?

Also, where should I go with this from here? Scrap it and start over?

[Inferno]

There is a water plane over the middle "pit". Sorry I didn't include that because the models are separated (since I made the rar public I didn't include the BSP).

I can send it over. But I would suggest working on the mountains sides. Add some detail like cliffs or some shit. IDK look at some google images of mountains or open up halo 2/halo 3.

I like the general canopy so far. Keep it up.

[English Mobster]

Yes, I was considering cliffs, but I wasn't sure what exactly to do.

At this resolution, I might as well add tiny little details, like scattering some flowers in the grass I have strewn about.
And yes, I do indeed have grass strewn about. It's just hidden by the canopy, lol.

[Inferno]

1. Look at the wire frame layout I put in the folder.
2. Overlay it on the texture your painting.
3. Compare the wire frame with the model.
4. Paint cliffs accordingly.
5. ???
6. PROFIT!

That's what I would do at least. I'm no texture artist though.

[Con]

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3019/66607095.jpg
this is my old one

I know it looks pretty shitty, but this was for the UI version jcap and I talked about where the background would be tinted blue and filtered so it didn't matter much what the ground map looked like. However, these colours, when compared to the reference screenshots I was using, look pretty close so I would sample mine for some of the overall texture variance and colour.

For something like this map and not a silhouetted UI, you're obviously going to need a higher resolution map and much more attention to detail.

[English Mobster]

Yes, I was going to pay close attention to the detail that this map deserves, but I am looking at the very real possibility of losing my computer for a week or so currently, so I might not be able to work on it for a while.

[Con]

I'm going to add that you need to make a canopy detail map, not try to add it to the base texture like you are now (if that's what those scraggly lines are).

[Inferno]

Okay Mother Fuckers...

Gimee a update on shit. And get on xfire mobster.

[azjesse]

Lemme know when the next beta test is.

[Inferno]

I ain't no mother fucking chicken you fucking fuck faced fuckers. You best be renaming my thread to something more offensive before I get more offensive.

[Heathen]

You offended?

[Inferno]

:maddowns:

[ICEE]

It looks like that mod
:caruso:
ruffled your feathers

[Dwood]

It looks like that mod

ruffled your feathers

:caruso:


ftfy.

[Inferno]

Ass fucks. Tell me if you've made any progress on the textures so I can decide to let you live or not.

:maddowns:

[LlamaMaster]

Ass fucks. Tell me if you've made any progress on the textures so I can decide to let you live or not.

:maddowns:
lol, you expect progress? :haw:

[Cortexian]

Yoyorast Island V2 took four years and you're bumping your thread after only four days? Just sit back, relax, and wait for nothing to get done!

Seriously though, it's going to take a long time to get anything, you should know this!

[Kornman00]

Yeah, chill out and go eat some chicken

Or would that be canniblism in your case :ohdear:?

[Inferno]

Does it matter? I want this done for fucks sake.

[=sw=warlord]

Does it matter? I want this done for fucks sake.
Do it yourself then.:allears:

[Inferno]

I've done everything but texture.

I'm not omnipotent with modding. I have my weaknesses. The main one being that I can't paint textures to save my life.

[Gwunty]

you forgot to mention all that other stuff
like modeling
unwrapping
map design
and don't forget modeling !
:allears:

[English Mobster]

I'll get back on the ball, I've had some IRL issues to take care of as of late.

Pester me over Xfire some and I'll get it done.

[Lateksi]

Just to keep you motivated: many people are waiting for the Infernal map pack! :)

[Pooky]

Do it yourself then.:allears:

Put a lot of thought into that post, did you?

[=sw=warlord]

Put a lot of thought into that post, did you?
No more than any other comment i make to inferno.

[Inferno]

No more than any other comment i make to inferno.

Umad?


Also mobster. Talk to me on AIM about the texture.

[=sw=warlord]

Umad?


Also mobster. Talk to me on AIM about the texture.
Not really, i just figured seeing as your in such a rush to get the map done you might as well dip your toes into what you said yourself are weak in.
Im doing the same thing, trying to learn all aspects.

[Inferno]

It's more important to master what your good at than be mediocre at everything.

[Higuy]

It's more important to master what your good at than be mediocre at everything.
You may be a master at one thing; doesn't mean you can't learn to do other things as well.

[Inferno]

I've never had interest in learning to paint textures. It's just not my thing and I'm exceptionally bad at it.

:v:

[=sw=warlord]

I've never had interest in learning to paint textures. It's just not my thing and I'm exceptionally bad at it.

:v:
Jcap is a exceptional example of where failure leads to win, he's terrible at posting and yet he's a admin on this site, just because your bad at something dosn't mean you should let it hold you back, work against the flow and excel yourself to gain a better grip at what your doing wrong.
Unless of course your user intials are SVG.
[Who makes a thread about a broken stapler...]
E:See what i mean.

[Inferno]

Jcap is a exceptional example of where failure leads to win, he's terrible at posting and yet he's a admin on this site, just because your bad at something dosn't mean you should let it hold you back, work against the flow and excel yourself to gain a better grip at what your doing wrong.
Unless of course your user intials are SVG.
[Who makes a thread about a broken stapler...]

Read the last post. I do not have any interest or skill in painting textures. So no.

Also. Jcap. :-3

edit-

LMAO. Infraction.

[=sw=warlord]

Read the last post. I do not have any interest or skill in painting textures. So no.

Also. Jcap. :-3

edit-

LMAO. Infraction.Yeah but sometimes you gotta learn everything to do with your project to get it done, im just trying to help and i find the whole infraction and no comment rather amusing thanks Jcap you proved my point.:-3
E: tell me how was this post trolling? im not going to lie just for you Jcap.

[Heathen]

warlord, do you know what a pissing contest is?
Just get out of it.


Inferno, you have been working on this as long as I have known you, back when you were wanksta whatever. Just wait, the longer it takes, the better it can be.

[Inferno]

Lol Jcap.

Umad?


@Heathen

The longer it takes the more forehead shaped dents appear in my desk.

[Gwunty]

sorry ill stop making those

[Dwood]

Lol Jcap.

Umad?


@Heathen

The longer it takes the more forehead shaped dents appear in my desk.

And the more desk-shaped dents that appear on your forehead!

[teh lag]

This texture is for high ground. I painted it and it is the shittiest texture ever made. Needs to be redone.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/highground%20ground.tif


I'm not going to pretend this is anything other than a few minutes with h1 ground textures and clone stamp, but I figure I may as well put something down since you seem a touch desperate. Maybe someone who actually knows what they're doing will make it worth a shit - though then they'd be able to make something from scratch. Or maybe you've already got someone working on that and I'm just posting feces in .tif form to no real purpose - oh well.

tehlag.modacity.net/one/notpix/lookit/test_01.tif

[English Mobster]

I should have it done later today; I haven't had the same time to work on things as I used to.

[Inferno]

ATTN ENGLISHMOBSTER: GET ON XFIRE FOR ONCE IN YOUR RUDDY LIFE.

That is all. MMFBF.

[Ganon]

I'm not going to pretend this is anything other than a few minutes with h1 ground textures and clone stamp, but I figure I may as well put something down since you seem a touch desperate. Maybe someone who actually knows what they're doing will make it worth a shit - though then they'd be able to make something from scratch. Or maybe you've already got someone working on that and I'm just posting feces in .tif form to no real purpose - oh well.

tehlag.modacity.net/one/notpix/lookit/test_01.tif (http://tehlag.modacity.net/one/notpix/lookit/test_01.tif)

I still love you, Teh Lag

[Gwunty]

ummmmm
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5061
explain

[Dwood]

ummmmm
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5061
explain

:smith: :gonk: :nsmug:

[hry]

:smith: :gonk: :nsmug:
Leaked:C

[blind]

Just to keep you motivated: many people are waiting for the Infernal map pack! :)
lol

[SnaFuBAR]

ummmmm
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5061
explain

son of a bitch

[Inferno]

Mature.

You know what. I'm about to give up.

[blind]

Mature.

You know what. I'm about to give up.
just do it bud

[DarkHalo003]

I wondered why everything in the map was plastered with Ripped Zteam weapons and sadly attempted CMT HUD. The worse part is that the lights (which are blank and drive me insane) and the Elite Hologram weren't finished looking at the map. Damn leakers. :gonk:

[Inferno]

Yeah srsly. If your going to leak at least fix the obviously broken stuff.

Hell the tags for the light shaders and tree are in the fucking map file. Why not just fix it yourself.

:gonk:

[Timo]

ummmmm
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=5061
explain


who the eff

[SnaFuBAR]

yo upload a screenshot that says "this is created by snafubar and inferno"

[Inferno]

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?page=topic&topicID=30155

I swear to god if Dennis doesn't do this...

[English Mobster]

Poor Inferno.
I hate to tell you, but Dennis doesn't do shit.

On the bright side:
You got more kills as Inferno in the last round.
I finally got you your texture. :p

[Inferno]

Make those touch ups on the texture that I'm trying to send you on xfire. Then we will be on to final lightmaps. Woooooooooooooo.

[Inferno]

ATTENTION CONSCARS: I NEED THE MODEL FOR THE DELTA TEMPLE SKY. IN MAX FORMAT. GBXIMPORTER DOESN'T GET THE MATERIALS RIGHT WHEN I IMPORT IT TO EDIT.

[Con]

ATTENTION CONSCARS: I NEED THE MODEL FOR THE DELTA TEMPLE SKY. IN MAX FORMAT. GBXIMPORTER DOESN'T GET THE MATERIALS RIGHT WHEN I IMPORT IT TO EDIT.

I never had the model, I only made some textures for it. Hope this helps (it doesn't really).

[Inferno]

Fuck. Well I need to rotate the skybox about 120 degrees...

How does I do this?

[Con]

Just extract the model, rotate it, and make sure the regions and materials are fine.

[English Mobster]

Inferno:
Will be at dad's around 3:00 Pacific.
Then I'll make your edits, because I'll have my source files and Photoshop.

[Inferno]

Alright. Until then I will be working on a Christmas release of some sorts. And going to get my parents some gifts and stuff.

[SnaFuBAR]

no leaked spv2 content in it? awww

[Inferno]

no leaked spv2 content in it? awww

Pshhhhhhh zteam ripz are better. Everyone knows that.

[Inferno]

Just extract the model, rotate it, and make sure the regions and materials are fine.

You obviously don't know what GBX importer does to material libraries.

:saddowns:

It hurts.

[English Mobster]

Yeah, GBX model importer hates skies, from my experience.

[Con]

That sky has at most 6 materials. Suck it up :|

[Inferno]

That sky has at most 6 materials. Suck it up :|

Every poly is assigned to 1 or 2. I have no idea how to fix it.

[Higuy]

Every poly is assigned to 1 or 2. I have no idea how to fix it.
wat

Just open the gbxmodel and create a new material for every shader. The only thing you need to make sure of is the same name. Attach the entire model together to 1 object, then use the region select or whatever its called in editable mesh to select certain parts. Apply the appropriate material to it by looking through sapien at the same time to see where what goes. Its really not that hard :smith:. By the way, this can be a much easier process by unslecting the import materials button when importing, then doing what I said.

The only thing it might not import is #sun, I've had countless origional Halo skys do that, so I suggest making your own when doing so, and making your own sun.lens_flare tag.

[Inferno]

wat

Just open the gbxmodel and create a new material for every shader. The only thing you need to make sure of is the same name. Attach the entire model together to 1 object, then use the region select or whatever its called in editable mesh to select certain parts. Apply the appropriate material to it by looking through sapien at the same time to see where what goes. Its really not that hard :smith:. By the way, this can be a much easier process by unslecting the import materials button when importing, then doing what I said.

The only thing it might not import is #sun, I've had countless origional Halo skys do that, so I suggest making your own when doing so, and making your own sun.lens_flare tag.

So just guess?
Sounds like fun.

[teh lag]

eeuuuueeaagh whiny whiny whiny

Christ, just do it.

back in the day we didn't even have a proper gbxmodel importer you had to export the model from hmt and re-uv it yourself through 21 feet of snow

[=sw=warlord]

Christ, just do it.

back in the day we didn't even have a proper gbxmodel importer you had to export the model from hmt and re-uv it yourself through 21 feet of snow
Back in my day we had to use spark edit to move spawn points one by one in SP-MP conversions.:mech2:

[Higuy]

So just guess?
Sounds like fun.
:ugh:

No, It should be obvious which ones go where if your not a retard.

[Inferno]

With a sky like this it's hard to tell. I already tried random guessing once then I got anoyed and went to play MW2.

Also. I used to mod with HMT haaha.

Gathering Exception Data...

[teh lag]

random guessing

...What is there to guess about? You put the bitmaps on their materials in 3ds, you change the material index of each region until it looks right. Seems pretty straightforward to me.

[Inferno]

I can fix the material ID's on a regular model but skys are complex. And 3ds 8 has problems with models that size.

[=sw=warlord]

I can fix the material ID's on a regular model but skys are complex. And 3ds 8 has problems with models that size.
No.
I've been able to import much larger models before and i've never had a issue with 3ds max 8.

[FRain]

Sky models aren't that complex inferno.

It wasnt that hard to recompile them every 30 seconds when I say, changed a bitmap, or moved a planet.

You're doing it wrong

also,

back in my day we had to walk through a 8ft of snow to get to school
with one shoe
and no sock for the other foot

and it was uphill both ways.

[Inferno]

Sky models aren't that complex inferno.

It wasnt that hard to recompile them every 30 seconds when I say, changed a bitmap, or moved a planet.

You're doing it wrong

also,

back in my day we had to walk through a 8ft of snow to get to school
with one shoe
and no sock for the other foot

and it was uphill both ways.

What are you guys? My collective mother?

Also Frain. Back in your day you were 3 years old. :v:

[Inferno]

Ran some low quality lights on delta lake. I'm working on a nice shader for the back ground terrain. (thanks to english mobster) After that I'll attempt to re material the sky and get it lined up with the sun. And then final lightmaps.

After that It's a straight shot to release.

:neckbeard:

[il Duce Primo]

Just dont leave a beta watermark on it this time...

[Inferno]

Just dont leave a beta watermark on it this time...

Sorry but masterz already made that joke. Try again.

[Inferno]

Lighting delta to 0.25.

12 hours later...


0.666250
0.665642
0.665034
0.664430


Yawn...

[Inferno]

Light maps are done though I did cheat a little. :downs:

Sky is also fixed and terrain and other components have been adjusted. I can smell the release thread almost.

[Con]

Sky is fixed? Does this mean I don't have to make you a high res bitmap anymore? :downs:

[Inferno]

If you want to. I'm just using the ones you gave me before.