My First Brush Map

[Inferno]

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/my%20first%20brush%20map.PNG

So yeah. I've got a layout very roughly based around damnation. It's symmetrical and is basically a couple of outdoor areas connected by large underground tunnels and passages with a massive chasm in the center. There are tunnels leading around both sides of the chasm and a big bridge. The entire layout is multi level and my drawing of it is nearly impossible to comprehend unless you know what the hell it's supposed to be. So there's not point in posting it. ( plus my drawings are fucking shit :v: )

I'm using the UT3 NEC packages to make this map specifically the ones used in the map "Sanctuary".
I'll post more as I get it done. Go ahead and crit the stuff above. I think I want to make the cliffs higher on some sides and find a better grass deco layer.

Update #1

Started on interiors.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/my%20first%20brush%20map%202.PNG

[Dwood]

Looks all right to me... Then again I'm used to seeing Halo's engine so :P

[Inferno]

Update.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/my%20first%20brush%20map%202.PNG

Interiors have been started on.

[BobtheGreatII]

Looking good, can't say much though, I'm still making box maps in UE3.

[MetKiller Joe]

Break up all of those similar looking rocks. It'd make the scene a lot more interesting.

Looks really good though.

[Limited]

Looks great, keep up the good work.

[Inferno]

:iamafag:

I've figured out how intersect and deintersect work. Makes things a lot easier.

[FRain]

What does intersecting/deintersecting do?

[Inferno]

Takes the shape of surrounding brushes and modifies your brush accordingly. You would have to see it to understand.

- edit -

Also this.

http://forums.beyondunreal.com/showthread.php?p=2391957#post2391957

[JackalStomper]

I hope that's not the entire map.

The layout doesn't look like it would work very well with Unreal's gameplay at all, much too open. It seems as if your mind is still stuck in Halo map design mode, with large open areas and little breaking up the lines of fire. That doesn't work with Unreals instant hit - infinate range weapons.

Despite what MetKiller Joe said about the rocks, you really shouldn't be putting that much detail into a map like that at this point anyway. You should just get the basic layout made up in brushes, test the gameplay, and see if it's worth anything. After that you can focus on the visuals.

While on the topic of visuals I'll say a thing or two about how you plan on using Necris meshes... with arboreal styled terrain?
While Terra is a very lush planet, you won't find any Necris structures on it. And the Necris homeworld itself is almost entirely desrt based. hmmm...

Perhaps you can just go with the "I don't give a fuck" method and do it anyway, but it adds depth to the theme of the map if you actually put some thought into where it takes place.

What gametype is this supposed to be for?

[Inferno]

CTF and DM. That is only 1 corner of the map. There are a lot more close quarters interior areas but the top left and bottom right of the map will be those large open fields.

And since when is open bad in unreal? Lol most of the good maps are pretty open. Small maps end up being completely dominated by flak cannons.

[t3h m00kz]

and bio rifles.

For good indoor design ideas that would work well with Unreal, think of maps that have multiple rooms with multiple entrances. IE Chillout, Longest or Rat Race, but something like Damnation may work. Hang Em High and Carousel wouldn't work as well due to the overall open-ness. It would turn into an upper-ground campfest.

In the case of Halo 2 and 3, good maps would be The Pit, Midship, Lockout, Guardian, and probably Citadel or Epitaph.

Quake III (or Quake Live) had good indoor designs. Campgrounds was a good one. Unreal's maps have some good designs too, Deck, Rankin and some of the 1v1 maps.

As far as good outdoor designs go, I suppose Halo-style maps would work well with something like VCTF, considering the fact that it's pretty much Halo's CTF, just, you know.. for Unreal. I'd suggest if there's any indoor areas as "alternate routes" keep them a similar layout as something like Chillout or Lockout, the whole "multiple rooms" thing.

[Sel]

looks like shit

you're such a shit mapper

also ths game sucks

[t3h m00kz]

sel's just mad he can't do this

ZIJEPM5ztlU

:realsmug:

[Inferno]

Yeah poor selentic. Not only does he make terrible maps but now hes making one for a Terrible Fortress 2.

edit-

Oh and btw. The entire map will consist of transfers from low to high ground. Dun worry. It all gun b k.

[Sel]

gameplay

Sorry I think you have the wrong section, posts pertaining to gameplay belong in the Tf2, and CE forums.

[Inferno]

LOAWL!

TF2 has gameplay? I couldn't tell since the entire server was pyros and soldiers!

Oh and Pistols: Custom Edition.

[Sel]

LOAWL!

TF2 has gameplay? I couldn't tell since the entire server was pyros and soldiers!

Oh and Pistols: Custom Edition.

I can understand that being an unreal tournament kiddy, you wouldn't understand what gameplay and balance were, don't worry it's not your fault, it's how you were brought up. :)

[Jean-Luc]

Sorry I think you have the wrong section, posts pertaining to gameplay belong in the Tf2, and CE forums.
Unreal Tournament has some of the strongest gameplay out there. Get out :maddowns:

As for the map, I'd suggest making the bottom of the rock/cliffs blend into the grass more. Right now, they stand out in an almost comical way.

[JackalStomper]

Sorry I think you have the wrong section, posts pertaining to gameplay belong in the Tf2, and CE forums.

Trolling are you? You can't have much gameplay with the lag in CE now can you?

It's why I laugh at "pro" players in Halo PC.


ANYWAY....

Just one corner eh? So is that supposed to be a base for a team? No allot of structures at this point. Is it going to be a straight port from CTF to DM? Or will you make some changes to make it play better?

[Inferno]

Well this is my first time designing for unreal game play. Don't judge the layout by this. There is a lot more to come.

And how should I do the cliff blending?

[Jean-Luc]

And how should I do the cliff blending?
Taking advantage of lighting will help you immensely as a start.

I'll look through some maps later to give you some better advice.

[Inferno]

The map is coming together slowly. I've almost finalized the layout. Then there will be testing. And then there will be cake.

edit-

Pictures in a second. I'll just add them to this post.

edit 2 -

I mirrored the map so I can actually have things all line up properly but I will variate the terrain and cliffs once I get everything in place.

http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/decesndent%20WIP%201.PNG
http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/decesndent%20WIP%202.PNG
http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/decesndent%20WIP%203.PNG
http://dedi-servers.net/ftp/dmt/decesndent%20WIP%204.PNG

[Inferno]

Uhhhhh Crit?

[neuro]

cook the bugger and let's try it.

[SMASH]

I like. Better than I can do currently. Are those rocks static meshes?

[DEElekgolo]

Where you get those rocks?
What is brushed and what is a static mesh?

[neuro]

that's ut3.

it's got all the stuff from the game in it.

[Sel]

why dont you finish working on a good map (revelations :) :) ) with a decent layout before trying and failing at making your own!

[Inferno]

Revelations is so terrible that bots don't path properly on it.

But besides the bot pathing problem it's totally playable.

BTW

Beta soon.

[Sel]

:)

[Inferno]

So baddie. When we play dis map you want to play get combo raped by me and m00kz?

[Inferno]

Map layout is done. I'm adding the giant death pit in the center then I'll start working on weapon/teleport/jumpad/bot path/spawn/etc layout.

Because what's a map without a giant pit of death to knock people into with the rockets?

[Jean-Luc]

Because what's a map without a giant pit of death to knock people into with the rockets?
You are a wise man; I love DM - Gael! :neckbeard:

[Inferno]

Maps pretty much done. I need to add interior lights of some kind and then set up the gametype shit.

After that it's beta time. Possibly Friday.

[Sel]

So baddie. When we play dis map you want to play get combo raped by me and m00kz?

I'm down to play whenever lol.

[.Wolf™]

Need to get this game before friday........

[t3h m00kz]

you won't regret the money you spent.

Pick up a Shock Rifle and enjoy the fuck out of it.

http://www.snipersparadise.net/images/emoticons/s-shock.gif

[Sel]

you won't regret the money you spent.


Yeah games you play once, and then just leave on your steam account are great :downs:

[Inferno]

Map is lighted. Beta tomorrow.

:iamafag:

[Gwunty]

cant see the images bro

[Bastinka]

Image links are dead.

[Inferno]

Yeah uh...

Dedi-servers.net is down.

Uh.

Yeah. Fuck my life.

[Cortexian]

pl_revelations

go

[Inferno]

Okay prosefs. I tested the map with my freind on LAN and it played pretty well so I started texturing and detailing today. So far it looks good. I'd post pictures but my FTP is down.

:saddowns:

[=sw=warlord]

Okay prosefs. I tested the map with my freind on LAN and it played pretty well so I started texturing and detailing today. So far it looks good. I'd post pictures but my FTP is down.

:saddowns:
www.tinypic.com?
The site all the Pr0 MLG use yo.

[Inferno]

Too lazy. I have some hope that dedi-servers might come back.

:saddowns:

[t3h m00kz]

dude you gotta use protobucket, I'm seriously

[Inferno]

Loawl.

I'm going to find a new upload spot soon.

[Inferno]

Fuck yes my luck is good. Dediservers is back up.

[Inferno]

Ladys and Mentlegen! I am proud present my first brush map DM-CTF-Transcendence. (desaturation filter not included)

I was going to write a lengthy game play review and description but I'm tired and lazy. I'll upload a game play video tomorrow since I plan on playing it on LAN for some serious testing.



http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/02129721f4e9893084c9907321cde826991eb0d4.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/c72df199c934a76e504d488c2728837423816d48.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/fcba67d4e18adbccd9f2f9efad2c8b0689fa3f3d.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/f91e4169751b89f08edb2872ebdfe1a85b55e801.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/6fd5d41591b61f7a9429f85623f9e80ca5c7d997.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/fd50b8134c108c309fdd69bddcb53c984911e147.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/73a4de8ad51a40d4ae14097f775975838ecb1ebf.png
http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/653f1c87d5881160dd25a94f62204bc2bc9898d7.png




( Please rename the thread :v: )

[neuro]

looks rather empty.

[Anton]

looks rather empty.

Agreed.

[Malloy]

looks like a damnation influenced forge attempt,

purdy though :)

[Inferno]

It plays well IMO.
The range is varying since a lot of areas have great sniper coverage but easy ambush spots.

edit-

Who wants to beta?

[Anton]

I'll beta, just give me a time. (I'm on winter break now, so anytime is okay.)

[Inferno]

We are playing like right now. Me mookz and a freind on LAN.