Stating the obvious

[Rob Oplawar]

You know, Left 4 Dead and Team Fortress are all well and good, but,

HL2 Episode 2 Spoiler:

YOU KILLED ELI FUCKING VANCE AND THEN LEFT US HANGING NOW LET US SEE THE GODDAMN CONCLUSION TO THE GODDAMN STORY.

FUCK.

tl;dr: Valve should focus on appeasing those select few fans with attention spans long enough to follow a story arc instead of selling out by making hugely popular games.

still tl;dr: WHERE THE FUCK IS EPISODE 3

[EX12693]

^This
But you beat me to making this thread. lol. :nsmug:

[n00b1n8R]

YOU JUST SPOILED EPISODE 2 FOR ME YOU CUNT!
no but seriously, WHAT HAPPEND TO BARNY

[Rob Oplawar]

Oh yeah I should warn you guys that there were serious ep 2 spoilers in the post you just read.

In all seriousness, I assume anybody who cares already knows.

[Reaper Man]

I didn't know :smith:

[BobtheGreatII]

Yeah, what the hell indeed. I'm a little pissed at valve about this. They better have a freaking amazing Source Engine upgrade to show off for this game. : /

[Sel]

uh whatever, I'd rather see team fortress 3.

[Ifafudafi]

Don't worry, they probably are releasing Team Fortress 3 next

It's just Team Fortress 2 with all the custom maps and class updates, but also on X360 and has some new hats

[Higuy]

I enjoyed Half Life 2's storyline alot. I'd like to see an ending as well.

[Hotrod]

Is it a bad thing that I've never played any Half Life game, ever?

[Higuy]

Is it a bad thing that I've never played any Half Life game, ever?
yes.

[BobtheGreatII]

Is it a bad thing that I've never played any Half Life game, ever?

Double Yes.

[klange]

Is it a bad thing that I've never played any Half Life game, ever?
Triple yes, you have just failed the Internet.

[EX12693]

I haven't played Half life either, but I have every game. I'm got going to play them until Black Mesa comes out.

[cheezdue]

I never got to finish Half Life 2. Man I miss that gravity gun.

[Amit]

Is it a bad thing that I've never played any Half Life game, ever?

Go slit your wrists. Go quick.


Also Rob, your spoiler bubble can be read from just hovering over the title of the thread in the Tech Talk forum. That's bad.

[Hotrod]

Oh...it seems that I should go die now...or play Half Life 2...I have failed the internet :(

[Amit]

Oh...it seems that I should go die now...or play Half Life 2...I have failed the internet :(

That's alright, I've only played up to a quarter of the way through Episode 1. Haha, I don't care much for spoilers with the Half-Life series.

[n00b1n8R]

That's fine though, episode 1 was shit. :cool:

(also don't wait for BMS if you've got HL2, I played them out of order and it was still lots of fun (: )

[ICEE]

I don't get why people say Half life has a great story line. To be honest its kind of confusing shit. The only thing I find of real interest is the mystery of the G-Man. I don't think gordon is a very good hero tbh.

[Higuy]

I don't get why people say Half life has a great story line. To be honest its kind of confusing shit. The only thing I find of real interest is the mystery of the G-Man. I don't think gordon is a very good hero tbh.
It's great becuase its expansive, and thats why its confusing. It's not hard to really figure out though.

[Con]

Moving this from tech talk to the source section.

[n00b1n8R]

It's not great but it's good and people say it's great because it pulls you into the world like few other games do. Yes I'd honestly prefer it if gordon opend his mouth once in a while to express some emotion but it still makes you feel like you're there (and infuriates you that you can't slapabitch whenever alyx is on-screen).

[Siliconmaster]

It's not great but it's good and people say it's great because it pulls you into the world like few other games do. Yes I'd honestly prefer it if gordon opend his mouth once in a while to express some emotion but it still makes you feel like you're there (and infuriates you that you can't slapabitch whenever alyx is on-screen).

I like Alyx. :saddowns:

[JackalStomper]

Don't worry, they are putting alot of work into EP. 3!!! Like this amazing feature called

SIGN LANGUAGE!!! (http://kotaku.com/5332698/valve-studying-sign-language-for-deaf-half+life-character)

Fucking awesome that they make us wait for these features right?

[Con]

I think it's great that they're experimenting with signing and adding it to future games. Valve already has colour blind mode for some of their games.

[.Wolf™]

I don't get why people say Half life has a great story line. To be honest its kind of confusing shit. The only thing I find of real interest is the mystery of the G-Man. I don't think gordon is a very good hero tbh.YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

[Rob Oplawar]

While I love that Valve is experimenting with new technologies and simultaneously catering to crowds that often get left out of various aspects of gaming, I have to say they're doing it all wrong.

Half Life 2 episodes: episodic. As in rapid releases on the same engine. As in, save your tinkering for the next engine, and finish the goddamn storyline you've started. They could have finished episodes 1 through 3 on virtually the same engine as Half Life 2 years ago, and then worked in secret on Half Life 3 which when finally announced would have blown us away with all its new features.

I understand that Valve has a very user-centric development process which means they test a few new technologies at a time by releasing them and seeing the reaction, but imho they're taking this to the illogical extreme by insisting on interrupting their episodic releases in order to stick their new technologies into them as soon as they have the idea.

Compare this to Greeble and Bridge CE. Stop adding new features and just release the first release! Maybe that's why I find it so appealing to work at Valve. We both suffer from paralyzing feature creep.

[n00b1n8R]

Gabe needs to stop playing Magic: The Gathering. :allears:

[Aerowyn]

I don't think gordon is a very good hero tbh.

:gtfo:

[BobtheGreatII]

I don't think gordon is a very good hero tbh.

:nsmug: Remove yourself. From life.

[LlamaMaster]

Hey.

Hey guys.

I think Half Life is boring.

[Heathen]

honestly, I agree. Gordon is completely uninteresting.

[EX12693]

He's less interesting than Chief, but the fact that he's just some random physicist who decides to pick up a shitload of weapons and start killing aliens makes him awesome.

So fu. :saddowns:

[Siliconmaster]

See, when I think of Half Life, I don't actually think of Gordon. I love those games because it creates a vacuum where how other characters interact with you dictates who you are, not the person himself. I can understand wanting to have more character development, but I actually enjoy it. It makes me feel like I can place more of my emotions into the game. In Halo, I feel like I'm playing as someone, so sometimes I don't feel as personally connected.

[n00b1n8R]

Gordon is really a pretty lame Garry Sue. He shouldn't be good at combat but he rapes everything in this universe, he never says a peep but everyone loves him, there is always, always a way to push forward no matter the odds, etc.

Halflife games are awesome, just not because of Dr Freeman.

[ICEE]

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

umad?


:gtfo:
umad?


:nsmug: Remove yourself. From life.

umad?
:realsmug::realsmug::realsmug:

[=sw=warlord]

Gordon is really a pretty lame Garry Sue. He shouldn't be good at combat but he rapes everything in this universe, he never says a peep but everyone loves him, there is always, always a way to push forward no matter the odds, etc.

Halflife games are awesome, just not because of Dr Freeman.
And yet the most his masterfull mind does in terms of tech is put a plug back into a socket.:realsmug:

[n00b1n8R]

Right because he got a job in an underground top secret research facility through good looks alone. :downs:

[ultama121]

I find Gordon to be interesting... perhaps it's just because he's a person.


He's less interesting than Chief,
Seriously?

The chief is really straightforward and has a beyond stereotypical hero personality.

[BobtheGreatII]

I found the Rooky in ODST more fascinating than the Chief. Also I have to agree with Silicon. You don't think much of Gordon, other than you know a touch of his back story. The rest is putting you in the drivers seat and letting you interact with the characters. But as for myself, I pretty much think that Gordon is awesome. Don't know for sure why though.

[EX12693]

I find Gordon to be interesting... perhaps it's just because he's a person.

*ex quote here* "gordon isnt interesting"


Seriously?

The chief is really straightforward and has a beyond stereotypical hero personality.
Gordon by himself is not interesting. What makes him interesting is how you interact with the world through him. He doesn't NEED to talk, because he is only how you use him to interact with the characters.

[ultama121]

Yeah... that's true. At least Gordon's character is creative in that right though. The chief just kinda feels like a copy paste hero to me I guess... idk.

[Bodzilla]

Yeah... that's true. At least Gordon's character is creative in that right though. The chief just kinda feels like a copy paste hero to me I guess... idk.
he is.

the walking tank hero has been done a billion times.

[t3h m00kz]

Honestly, Chief does not fascinate me in the slightest. Since Halo 1 I kept getting the feeling "Man who's this random guy I'm playing as"

Ooooh he's a silent bad ass who has no personality and just kills a lot of shit hes soo cooool

That only worked in GTA3 man, Claude Speed will fucking cut you

[n00b1n8R]

I found the Rooky in ODST more fascinating than the Chief.
Doomguy had more personality than rook. Atleast he got excited when you picked up a new gun.

[ICEE]

The best hero is duke nukem FYI.

[neuro]

FOREVER!...

[=sw=warlord]

The chief is really straightforward and has a beyond stereotypical hero personality.
Yeah but the chief also never gets the chick. [not that anyone would want a annoying as hell dwarf stuck in his head who would probably know hes about to cheat before he would]
The chief is more tool of destruction than hero, he doe's what he doe's because he is ordered to, in halo 1 theres a point where he has no orders and needed cortana to tell him what to do.

[ultama121]

So where are you going with that? That doesn't really justify the fact the Chief is a crappy character...

[Rook]

Doomguy had more personality than rook. Atleast he got excited when you picked up a new gun.

:tinfoil:

[=sw=warlord]

So where are you going with that? That doesn't really justify the fact the Chief is a crappy character...
Still better than a suppoed M.I.T scientist who never talk's and runs about in a top military suit using crowbars.
At least the chief is ment to be a soldier unlike gordon.

[Rob Oplawar]

Freeman probably did things like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR3JKveEVLo) in his free time.

[n00b1n8R]

Still better than a suppoed M.I.T scientist who never talk's and runs about in a top military suit using crowbars.
At least the chief is ment to be a soldier unlike gordon.
The HEV suit is not military though???

[=sw=warlord]

The HEV suit is not military though???
What kind of suit is bomb proof and uses shields?

[EX12693]

A shielded, bomb-proof hazard suit. Used in areas where resonance cascades and dimensional rifts are possible. Even then, Gordon must have hated the suit. He lost the helmet.

[Rob Oplawar]

The helmet looked totally gay anyway. If I were Gordon I would have thought "gee, I'm in the midst of an alien invasion. On the one hand, I could really use armor over my head to protect myself from those headcrab things. On the other hand, this is my one chance to look totally badass! I think my decision is clear."

[Warsaw]

The Chief isn't a hero, he's a soldier. He does what he does because he's ordered too or because it's the right thing to do.

[legionaire45]

The Chief isn't a hero, he's a soldier. He does what he does because he's ordered too or because it's the right thing to do.
After playing Halo 2 and 3 I got the impression that Master Chief is Jesus himself.

[Bodzilla]

theres enough references in the game i can understand that lol

[=sw=warlord]

After playing Halo 2 and 3 I got the impression that Master Chief is Jesus himself.
More like anti-christ, Masterchief destroyed the ark and defeated the flood as well as destroyed a halo or two.