FRIENDSHIP ENDS IN ONE DAY

[Sel]

thought you ought to know

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3219

[thehoodedsmack]

So what, Soldier and Demoman double-update? Sounds cool.

[sdavis117]

Soldier update?

[Heathen]

Lolol, its very funny too.

[Dwood]

I'm waiting for my engineer and/or medic update.

[Heathen]

Incidentally, this will be the first update I am a part of as it comes out.


I am excite.

[English Mobster]

Medic update came out a long time ago.
It was one of the first.

Meanwhile, I've been a part of pretty much every class update. I remember when the first class update was released, actually.

[sdavis117]

Wasn't the Scout the first one to be updated, or was it the heavy?

[Heathen]

I just started playing :[

and yeh medic update is done.

Just Demo, Soldier, and Engie.

[CN3089]

It was the medic.

[ICEE]

I like the way their doing this, with the comic and what not

[sdavis117]

Comic is non-cannon. Because we all know the Pyro is the announcer.

[InnerGoat]

I can't wait to see what new nerfs the Spy gets in this update!

[Heathen]

W9uvQ_k8gqs

[thehoodedsmack]

Some of the new voice-overs almost make it sound like some sort of end-game team-killing going on.

[Inferno]

TF2 has the closest thing to a "backstory" that a MP game will ever get.

And it's awesome.

[sdavis117]

TF2 has the closest thing to a "backstory" that a MP game will ever get.

And it's awesome.

The "cartoony" style of the game and the uniqueness of each class is what lets Valve create these backstories.

[CN3089]

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/administrator/freewig


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-siren.gif only 200 left! http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-siren.gif

[Timo]

404 :[

[Sel]

:[

[CN3089]

404 :[

Looks like you missed out buddy :[

[Heathen]

free wig?

[DEElekgolo]

RED SPY IN THE BASE!

[Heathen]

FREE WIG?

[DEElekgolo]

Spy round here...

[Heathen]

gfys

Whats with the freewig?

[Inferno]

Blue spy in the green base!

[DEElekgolo]

GREEN BASE IN THE BLUE SPY!

[ExAm]

Fuck fuck why don't I ever come down here to this part of the forum?

[Sel]

Fuck fuck why don't I ever come down here to this part of the forum?

Because you're a stupid fuck who doesn't pay attention to the only section worth reading??

[ExAm]

I am sad!

[Jelly]

got my wig.

Jelly has found: Fancy Fedora

Oh well thanks TF2 now I can look badass while I battlespy!

[InnerGoat]

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/administrator/freewig


http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-siren.gif only 200 left! http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/emot-siren.gif

are you serious? only 200? I can't believe I actually got that when you spammed me in game :neckbeard:

[Inferno]

Lol look at these kids and there hats.

[Bodzilla]

valva release this shit at the most inconvinient times :|

[n00b1n8R]

FUCKING HAT CUNTBERRYS :maddowns:

Also, it's obviously a soldier/demo update.

I like how for the first official image of the announcer (administrator?), Valve used the look the community had already settled on :o

[Needles]

Liking how whatever class kills more of the other gets a 4th item :D.

Time to go demoman with my fro and do some sticky spam + kritzkreg.

[Ifafudafi]

fuck that

soldier supremacy

[n00b1n8R]

Liking how whatever class kills more of the other gets a 4th item :D.
??

[Cagerrin]

??
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3225

[Phobias]

fuck that

soldier supremacy

Quoting for maximum effect.

[n00b1n8R]

MUST
KILL
DEMOMANZ

[BobtheGreatII]

Soldier.

[Sever]

Dear god I'm gonna have fun playing as Pyro the next few sessions!

[Cagerrin]

Dear god I'm gonna have fun playing as Pyro the next few sessions!
This.

If I understand correctly, what matters is which class you obtain more kills with, not how many you obtain. All I really need to do is get one Soldier kill and just not use the Demoman, which is what I do anyways.

scratch that I'm dumb

[Ifafudafi]

The problem isn't the influx of rocket/grenade spam; it's the fucking medics who give preferential treatment to a single class; you'll have a medic on an all-demo team sitting on his Kritz when it could win the game because he's waiting for the shitty soldier with no points to waste it.

[CN3089]

The problem isn't the influx of rocket/grenade spam; it's the fucking medics who give preferential treatment to a single class; you'll have a medic on an all-demo team sitting on his Kritz when it could win the game because he's waiting for the shitty soldier with no points to waste it.

Good, fuck demomen, soldier supremacy

[Ifafudafi]

Actually I was trying to not be biased, but I see the problem more with medics preferring demos over soldiers, which is particularly frustrating since I'm always the soldier in that case

Valve is either actively trying to divide the community further (because TF2 forums are funny) or they're just massive idiots. I can't tell :gonk:

[Sel]

Spent the last 3 hours healing soldiers, and ignoring demomen. There is nothing sweeter than the sweet sound of a darky cryin and dyin to a boomin rocket.

[Heathen]

naw, they like the [group] vs [group]

Medals, Halos, Gibuses, and now whatever the 4th weapon is.

[n00b1n8R]

Actually I was trying to not be biased, but I see the problem more with medics preferring demos over soldiers, which is particularly frustrating since I'm always the soldier in that case

Valve is either actively trying to divide the community further (because TF2 forums are funny) or they're just massive idiots. I can't tell :gonk:
You've been playing their games how long without realising that Valve are professional trolls???

Also, what kind of shitty medic will heal a demo over a soldier? The same as one who'll buddy up with heavys? :allears:

[Phobias]

So how goes the war efforts?

I just played a round, +18 for the soldiers.

[Bodzilla]

Good, fuck demomen, soldier supremacy

i'm down so i decided i should quote this.

[CN3089]

also if one of the soldier unlocks is not the SCREAMING EAGLE then Valve is terrible

[n00b1n8R]

So I was playing tf2 for a bit and I realised that I'm seriously out of practice with this whole "Pee See Ef Pee Es" thing and apparently there are people who like demoman, crazy huh?

[ExAm]

Crosspostin' dis
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/SVD5.png

FUCKING POSING JESUS CHRIST
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee6/TheExAm/prog3.jpg

K, now back to doing this in my teamfortress.com tab.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9590/pressf5.gif

[n00b1n8R]

K, now back to doing this in my teamfortress.com tab.
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9590/pressf5.gif
No, gb2 killing demoscrubs!

[ExAm]

I kill soldierscrubs, mate.

[n00b1n8R]

I kill soldierscrubs, mate.
IT'S ON LIKE A BURNING JAPENESE FLAG YOU COMMUNIST GREESEBAG!

[Phobias]

81 dead black people later and I feel like a member of the ku klux klan.

[Jelly]

Yeah guys just keep ignoring my stickies. Keep piling on the point. aww yeah keep going oh yes ok 12 people *right clicks*

Doing my part for the community.

[Aerowyn]

From what I can tell, this will be extremely easy to rig to favor one over the other, if enough people had the resolve.

Get a server full of people supporting the Demo, half go soldier and let themselves get killed over and over and over again until the count is through the roof.

I rarely play as either (though I play Demo more...) so I don't care who gets the weapon. I almost hope it ISN'T demo because as a very avid Engineer player, this would upset me to give them something else to fuck up my sentries with :(

[Sel]

I'm willing to bet valve will ignore servers reporting extremely skewed data like that.

[Ganon]

I'm willing to bet the demoman's weapons are based off some the gaming worlds worst weapons, are a terrible class and will be blown away in this contest by the soldier.

[Jelly]

http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3230

So demomen are losing by less than I expected; 1,290,988 soldiers killed and 1,390,017 demomen killed.

A not-inconsiderable 100k to go my brethren! What we lack in numbers we will make up for in persistence!

[Chainsy]

I like their wording and bolding.
A EXCLUSIVE, ONE OF A KIND WEAPON FOR THE SOLDIER THAT THE DEMO DOES NOT GET.
no shit, all the classes weapons are exclusive and one of a kind to their kind, so of course the soldier and demo could both get their weps and both would have a one of the kind weapon that neither one got.
That's just my view on it. /buzzkill :allears:

[English Mobster]

SOLDIER SUPREMACY.

Soldier was the first class I ever played.
That and I'm an engie. A new Demo unlock would fuck with everything I build.

[n00b1n8R]

At this rate the entire population of Australia will be dead within 5.8 days of the latest blog post~


I'm willing to bet valve will ignore servers reporting extremely skewed data like that.
Valve has said that they're going to catch cheaters (yeah right but it's the thought that counts :downs:).

PS. Anyone who openly admits to maining engineer is a bad kiddy who needs to uninstall TF2, hth~

[Heathen]

I like their wording and bolding.
A EXCLUSIVE, ONE OF A KIND WEAPON FOR THE SOLDIER THAT THE DEMO DOES NOT GET.
no shit, all the classes weapons are exclusive and one of a kind to their kind, so of course the soldier and demo could both get their weps and both would have a one of the kind weapon that neither one got.
That's just my view on it. /buzzkill :allears:

eh, you dont get it. Its a one of a kind weapon that the demo does not get. Meaning, instead of him getting it, which is a possibility as you know, the soldier gets it.

[Aerowyn]

PS. Anyone who openly admits to maining engineer is a bad kiddy who needs to uninstall TF2, hth~

Engineer is an important class, equally as important as any other. Running into a sentry's line of fire doesn't make the engineer stupid--it makes YOU stupid.

[Dwood]

PS. Anyone who openly admits to maining engineer is a bad kiddy who needs to uninstall TF2, hth~

I main engie.

[n00b1n8R]

Engineer is about as important as sniper, on a good day.

[Sel]

101 dead demomen, maybe 30 kills given to demomen!

And countless hours of healin soldiers!

[English Mobster]

And Snipers help clear the map of potential issues, like Medic/Heavy teams!
:downs:

[Phobias]

Getting a kritz when playing blu sol vs red demo is like watching the last 5 minutes of a game show. Jump in the middle of them with a crocket; DING DING DING DING DING

[Phopojijo]

Heh... I actually ubered an engineer recently.

Saved the position... it was worth it.

[ICEE]

Engineer is about as important as sniper, on a good day.

:allears:

Want to explain your theory there?

[Phopojijo]

:allears:

Want to explain your theory there?They're both primarily defensive classes?

[ExAm]

no shit, all the classes weapons are exclusive and one of a kind to their kinder... pistol and shotgun, man. those are shared between several classes.

[Sel]

er... pistol and shotgun, man. those are shared between several classes.

They're not the same gun.

Well they are, but they're not, if you get where I'm going with this.

[sdavis117]

They're not the same gun.

Well they are, but they're not, if you get where I'm going with this.

Technically the first person arms are part of the weapons, and they each have slightly different damage attributes.

[Heathen]

and different animations :eng101:

[ICEE]

They're both primarily defensive classes?

and? Maybe I'm a primarily defensive player.

[ExAm]

FUCKING CHEATERS
rx2MutERBC8

[Sel]

They're only hurting the soldier team by doing that shit, but then, I'm gonna bet that there's demomen doing that too, so it all evens out!

[Jelly]

They're only hurting the soldier team by doing that shit, but then, I'm gonna bet that there's demomen doing that too, so it all evens out!
Demomen run on pure honour and camaraderie. You will not find a true demoman cheating the system.

[CabooseJr]

Funny thing is that Valve isn't counting those kills.

[Dwood]

I bet Valve has something that pegs servers that do stuff like that.

[Aerowyn]

Funny thing is that Valve isn't counting those kills.

Funny thing is that valve probably doesn't have the time to check and see which kills are legit and which aren't.



FUCKING CHEATERS
rx2MutERBC8

Oh my god. Someone from my TF2 clan is in that video. I am so full of shame.... :(

[Heathen]

Oh my god. Someone from my TF2 clan is in that video. I am so full of shame.... :(

Someone from my TF2 clan is in that video. I am

my TF2 clan is in that

TF2 clan

[hurf durf I am in a] clan
:fail:

[Aerowyn]

:fail:

You're on my Steam friends list, dude. You've seen that CnB tag on my name for months now. You're only noticing that I'm in a clan NOW???

:fail:

[Darqeness]

New WAR update!

http://www.teamfortress.com/crafting/

Crafting...looks interesting. So it looks like we'll have to find blueprints and the appropriate items to make new items. I am intrigued...

[Phopojijo]

Looks to be items that you could get other ways though... oh well. Would have been awesome to have at least a few new uber-unlocks to need to work to achieve.

Though wouldn't this fit better on the Engineer update?
Oshi!?! :p

[Aerowyn]

New WAR update!

http://www.teamfortress.com/crafting/

Crafting...looks interesting. So it looks like we'll have to find blueprints and the appropriate items to make new items. I am intrigued...

All I know is that I am not crafting jack shit until I know recipes for hats. I'm not even wasting my time to put 3 FANs in and a bunch of shit and come out with a backburner. :\

[Phopojijo]

All I know is that I am not crafting jack shit until I know recipes for hats. I'm not even wasting my time to put 3 FANs in and a bunch of shit and come out with a backburner. :\Knowing Valve's cruel, trollish humour -- they'd only let you have the blueprints for the sandvich...

... you know... the Pyro really should be able to buff the sandvich like he does the flaming arrow.

[Darqeness]

Toasted Sandviches :iamafag:

Maybe the blueprints are related to those leaked beta weapons like those heavy gloves that had a speed increase or something like that. Maybe you'll be able to craft different versions of the weapons with different buffs

Also, my lowly attempt at the propaganda competition:

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/Delinquin/Watermarkversion.jpg

[Sever]

Space monkeys, lightning-fast karate, taking ownership of Florida, a hit out on Fred Astaire, and more! (http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/poopyjoe.htm)
(Linked to from the fifth page of the Saxton Hale comic (http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/05.htm), where he says 'poor monkey'.)

So, who else's gonna drop a line to PO Box 857, Saratoga NJ?

This is what people got last time when sending in for the Dead Ringer and Cloak & Dagger (http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/day04_english.htm):


This Mailbox Just Got Dominated by Saxton Hale

http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/ape_small.jpg (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/ape.jpg) http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/barbershop_small.jpg (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/barbershop.jpg) http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/sharks_small.jpg (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/sharks.jpg) http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/mild_small.jpg (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/mild.jpg) http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/girlscouts_small.jpg (http://www.teamfortress.com/images/posts/001/girlscouts.jpg)

Those of you who sent in money along with a coupon cut from Gentleman Scoundrel Magazine (http://www.teamfortress.com/sniper_vs_spy/day04_english.htm) from our Sniper vs. Spy update recently received a handsome collection of postcards from Valve's other resident Australian strongman, Saxton Hale.

The money you sent has been donated to gamer charity Child's Play (http://www.childsplaycharity.org/). Our legal department wants us to remind you that, in the future, please do not send us money (no matter what it says in the fake fictional advertisement). A friendly letter is enough to get potential free stuff sent your way.

[Phopojijo]

I'm just gonna call it right now... Engineers will get updated too...

They're the last one...
Seems like a Valve move...
Soldier and Demoman without Engineer would be *cruel*...
And the Blueprints thing seems sooo Engineer Update.

Also -- Meet the Pyro :p

[Heathen]

I'm just gonna call it right now... Engineers will get updated too...

They're the last one...
Seems like a Valve move...
Soldier and Demoman without Engineer would be *cruel*...
And the Blueprints thing seems sooo Engineer Update.

Also -- Meet the Pyro :p

I disagree.

I don't know why, but I disagree.

I find it doubtful.
And yes crafting!!!



You're on my Steam friends list, dude. You've seen that CnB tag on my name for months now. You're only noticing that I'm in a clan NOW???

:fail:

I just noticed that one of my friends on the internet has died :/ His status on AIM has been <I>"I'm sorry, but Steven (MusicMadness86) has passed away. He will be sorely missed"</I> has been his status for like 4 months. I was wondering why he never came online.





E: just saw the newspaper phopo, and I am eating my words :haw:

I do hope engie gets updated.

[English Mobster]

My war contribution: 0.
I've been trying.

(It's actually more along the lines of -7, should I switch to Demoman so I can get killed a lot by soldiers? Because I suck at both. :p)

[ExAm]

65 for the ranks of the demomen!

[Bodzilla]

DIAF EXAM

[Phobias]

I'd trade both the soldier and demo update for a Meet the Medic vid.

[n00b1n8R]

WoW Fortress 2~

My war contribution is probably negative, but I have learned that i need to relearn to tf2 at everything except medic and spy :saddowns:

[Good_Apollo]

Crafting now? I miss old, simple TF2.

Just give us the damn Meet The videos and release new weapons the old fashion way.

[Phopojijo]

If the Engineer does get updated... totttallly hope it's with Portal sentries.

[Sel]

how about, engineer doens't get updated because it's a shitty class?

[Phopojijo]

C'mon now -- wouldn't you like to have the limited-angled but movable, head-fucking sentries of Aperture Science?

[sdavis117]

how about, engineer doens't get updated because it's a shitty class?

Look at this scrub who's mad he can't get past Sentries.:realsmug:

[Ganon]

heat seeking rocket sentries

[Sel]

Look at this scrub who's mad he can't get past Sentries.:realsmug:

uh lol you're right it's very hard now that I refuse to heal demomen! :)

[Aerowyn]

how about, engineer doens't get updated because it's a shitty class?


Engineer is an important class, equally as important as any other. Running into a sentry's line of fire doesn't make the engineer stupid--it makes YOU stupid.

.

[Sel]

.

Why would I care what a scrub like you has to say???

[Phopojijo]

Why would I care what a scrub like you has to say???Oh take it like a man, shorty.

[ICEE]

Why would I care what a scrub like you has to say???

Do they beat you? Do they beat you like a rented mule?

[Heathen]

heat seeking rocket sentries

the have those :/

[Ganon]

the have those :/

shows how much I play this game

[Sel]

Oh take it like a man, shorty.

1v1


Do they beat you? Do they beat you like a rented mule?

1v1

[Inferno]

Engineer - AKA - Hey look guys I suck at FPS's so I'm going to a play a class that takes no skill!

At least with pyro you have to hit 2 keys to play it effectively.

:realsmug:

[Needles]

I've killed about 170 soliders :)

[Sel]

Engineer - AKA - Hey look guys I suck at FPS's so I'm going to a play a class that takes no skill!

At least with pyro you have to hit 2 keys to play it effectively.

:realsmug:

wow inferno is right about something in tf2 lol!!

[Ganon]

that's amazing lol!

[Aerowyn]

Engineer - AKA - Hey look guys I suck at FPS's so I'm going to a play a class that takes no skill!

At least with pyro you have to hit 2 keys to play it effectively.

:realsmug:

While you're on fire crying for a medic, you should be thankful that an engineer has a dispenser up to save your sorry ass. Engineers are more credit to team than most--their dispensers heal the team (medic's job, btw) and replenish ammo. Engies set up teleporters so you can defend your shit more effectively and get to the battle faster.

Not to mention building sentries to defend the point when you're too busy staring at some spray of ass and titties.

But hey, just because you can't be an effective engineer automatically means it's stupid, right?

[ICEE]

1v1



1v1

The very prospect of 1v1 matches in a class based multiplayer game is ridiculous, you know that right?

[Sever]

Yeah, it is TEAM Fortress after all. Also, a great Engineer can turn a Heavy into the perfect defensive machine with just one well-placed Dispenser.

[Aerowyn]

The very prospect of 1v1 matches in a class based multiplayer game is ridiculous, you know that right?

What do we know, we're just "scrubs," right? :allears:

[n00b1n8R]

itt: Yuki trolls forum BK's.

PS: Where is today's update Valve? >:U

[Heathen]

While you're on fire crying for a medic, you should be thankful that an engineer has a dispenser up to save your sorry ass. Engineers are more credit to team than most--their dispensers heal the team (medic's job, btw) and replenish ammo. Engies set up teleporters so you can defend your shit more effectively and get to the battle faster.

Not to mention building sentries to defend the point when you're too busy staring at some spray of ass and titties.

But hey, just because you can't be an effective engineer automatically means it's stupid, right?

you know they are just trolling, right?

[Ganon]

you know they are just trolling, right?

weren't

engis literally are the sleeper class

[Heathen]

weren't

engis literally are the sleeper class

lolol

[Heathen]

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/saxtonhale/poopyjoe.htm

[Sever]

Yeah, I posted that yesterday (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showpost.php?p=496791&postcount=97) - you know, WHEN IT CAME OUT.

[Heathen]

Yeah, I posted that yesterday (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showpost.php?p=496791&postcount=97) - you know, WHEN IT CAME OUT.

gfys :3

my post was better written.

[ExAm]

I've killed about 170 soliders :)
Demo supremacy!

*fistbump*

[ExAm]

Demo supremacy!

*fistbump*


itt: Yuki trolls forum BK's.

PS: Where is today's update Valve? >:U
Because it's SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY, THE DAY WHEN MOST PEOPLE DON'T WORK AND STUFF

[Bodzilla]

it most certainly is fucking NOT SUNDAY

[n00b1n8R]

Because it's SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY, THE DAY WHEN MOST PEOPLE DON'T WORK AND STUFF
THEY DO WHEN THERE'S A GOD DAMN WAR ON!!

also, ^

[ExAm]

it most certainly is fucking NOT SUNDAYIt was until an hour and twenty minutes ago, where I live and in Kirkland, Washington. You know, that place where valve is :downs:

[p0lar_bear]

It was until an hour and twenty minutes ago, where I live and in Kirkland, Washington. You know, that place where valve is :downs:

You should know by now that Valve is its own time zone.

[Darqeness]

Uh, the blog says "Weekend Update"...

[English Mobster]

IS EVERY FUCKING GAME DEVELOPER IN KIRKLAND?

It's like the Hollywood of video games...

[ExAm]

TAVISH DEGROOT SUPREMACY (http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3238)

[itszutak]

TAVISH DEGROOT SUPREMACY (http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3238)
Oh, neat.

[ExAm]

A fucking broadsword isn't just "neat", you understating bastard. It's fuck-awesome.

[Phobias]

hahaha, but the combo will never get used. Why?

It replaces your precious stickies.

Edit: the Targe, that is.

[n00b1n8R]

Demomen still suck and are going down but I will play it after the update for epic mele lulz.

[p0lar_bear]

...okay, I don't like where this is going. They just gave a player class a name. I'm all for naming the supporting characters, but seriously? In my eyes, part of the appeal of the TF2 universe is how each class, while retaining a background to add to the point of what each class does and why, is still just an empty, nameless, expendable stereotype. It adds to the game's comical design.

Also, I thought the whole point of breaking up the friendship was to prevent the Demoman and Soldier from talking about the Administrator, thus making them realize that they're working for the same person, yet Miss Pauling goes and openly admits that they went and made the same offer to the Soldier. I don't get it. Never mind they fixed it.

What I'm most afraid of is that Valve is going to get TOO serious with making something out of the universe's characters. I like how nonsensical TF2 is, but it isn't the same when you fill in the blanks with logic while still making logical fallacies.

[Sel]

They're removing stickies from the game if soldier wins

then it will become perfect :allears:

[ICEE]

...okay, I don't like where this is going. They just gave a player class a name. I'm all for naming the supporting characters, but seriously? In my eyes, part of the appeal of the TF2 universe is how each class, while retaining a background to add to the point of what each class does and why, is still just an empty, nameless, expendable stereotype. It adds to the game's comical design.

Also, I thought the whole point of breaking up the friendship was to prevent the Demoman and Soldier from talking about the Administrator, thus making them realize that they're working for the same person, yet Miss Pauling goes and openly admits that they went and made the same offer to the Soldier. I don't get it.

What I'm most afraid of is that Valve is going to get TOO serious with making something out of the universe's characters. I like how nonsensical TF2 is, but it isn't the same when you fill in the blanks with logic while still making logical fallacies.

Im with you 100% here. The name is taking the comic strip a bit too far.

[n00b1n8R]

...okay, I don't like where this is going. They just gave a player class a name. I'm all for naming the supporting characters, but seriously? In my eyes, part of the appeal of the TF2 universe is how each class, while retaining a background to add to the point of what each class does and why, is still just an empty, nameless, expendable stereotype. It adds to the game's comical design.
Yes, this.


Also, I thought the whole point of breaking up the friendship was to prevent the Demoman and Soldier from talking about the Administrator, thus making them realize that they're working for the same person, yet Miss Pauling goes and openly admits that they went and made the same offer to the Soldier. I don't get it.
I didn't notice this... :v:

Though they never explicetly stated that the fact that both teams were run by the same organisation was what they were trying to cover up..
Or the demo may have already known (soldier and he talk vOv)..

[Good_Apollo]

Yes, this.


I didn't notice this... :v:

Though they never explicetly stated that the fact that both teams were run by the same organisation was what they were trying to cover up..
Or the demo may have already known (soldier and he talk vOv)..But see that's the point, wasn't the game just fine believing you have these two random companies RED and BLU just fighting each other? I liked the random silliness, damn the backstory!

[ExAm]

Fuck you guys. Ungrateful bastards, the lot of you. I am quite enjoying this.

[n00b1n8R]

But see that's the point, wasn't the game just fine believing you have these two random companies RED and BLU just fighting each other? I liked the random silliness, damn the backstory!
I always prefered to think it was 2 teams of ignorant merc's, hired by the sadistic announcer for her own entertainment. vOv

[ExAm]

That idea of the premise felt a bit hollow to me.

[p0lar_bear]

Though they never explicetly stated that the fact that both teams were run by the same organisation was what they were trying to cover up..
Or the demo may have already known (soldier and he talk vOv)..

It's not stated, yes, however, it seems implied.

The Administrator says that it's not acceptable because they "might talk about work... they might talk about us," leading me to think that RED and BLU mercs are kept in the dark about RED and BLU being the same.

The motive behind this war is unclear. Right now it feels like a bad fanfiction, where the writer was going in one direction with it and decided to suddenly change it.

[CN3089]

i'm mad about my multiplayer only video game backstory guys




better post about it

[Sel]

Whoa kyon, you're pretty agreeable today!

[CN3089]

Whoa kyon, you're pretty agreeable today!

thanks bud :)

[Dwood]

I bet that this is going to lead into the updates of the others.

[Heathen]

Demo gets a sword and shield. (http://www.teamfortress.com/demomanupdate/index.htm#item_1)

AHHH.

Awesome.

The Eyelander and the Chargin' Targ.

[ICEE]

The last horse crosses the finish line

[Heathen]

wat, I knew since this morning but I was in school.

Where ye be discussin' this if not in this thread?


E: ahh, I see. Well, I don't really like the giving the name thing, but if you consider that its not a name for the CLASS, its a name for that specific demoman. My demo's name is usually heyifucktrees, lolololimgay, or heathen.

[ICEE]

wat, I knew since this morning but I was in school.

Where ye be discussin' this if not in this thread?

Quiteinthisthreadindeed


TAVISH DEGROOT SUPREMACY (http://teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3238)

[Heathen]

lookitma post up thar^

E: for those too lazy
http://temple.fpsbanana.com/ss/sprays/54194a.jpg

[n00b1n8R]

Nobody who cares is that lazy Heathen, hth.

[Rook]

Of all the things that could have been implemented a sword and shield, valve are have pretty badass ideas!

[Jelly]

Rook when this update comes out I will stomp you with these weapons only.

[Phopojijo]

Why do I expect L4D is rubbing off on the rest of Valve?

[Yoko]

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/demo/images/01.jpg
-I just wish your poor ol' da could take a morning off. From spinnin' in his grave at your idleness!
-spinnin' in his grave at your idleness!
-your idleness!
-idle!

oh valve,

[Phopojijo]

Lol, World's Easiest Class vs. The Demoman... awesome.

[Sel]

Lol, World's Easiest Class vs. The Demoman... awesome.

Uh demoman is piss easy, so obviously it is a joke, soldier takes skill

sorry!

[Phopojijo]

Which is why it's nearly my least (by far) played class, with my largest best score-per-death (though to be fair only about 20% of my total ever playtime appears to count... because when I achieve a new record -- it appears for about a day then reverts)

[Heathen]

Lol, World's Easiest Class vs. The Demoman... awesome.

demo vs demo wut ???

[Phopojijo]

Don't blame me, blame Valve.

[Aerowyn]

From http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_1

A high precision version of the standard-issue rocket launcher, the Direct Hit has been engineered from the ground up for Soldiers who have mastered the art of shooting at their targets instead of vaguely near them. Those of you looking to deal splash damage, stop reading now: the Direct Hit has a 70% smaller blast radius than a traditional rocket launcher. But the rockets that come out of this thing move fast and hit hard: 80% faster and with 25% more destructive force.Way to ruin my life as an engineer, Valve. I am hoping this comes with a slower reload time, seeing as that would mean that one soldier could destroy a level 3 sentry in under 5 seconds if he lands even 3 rockets (even with an Engineer sitting on it, wrench ablazin'), if I'm estimating damage and that properly. I'm calling BS on that.

I'm praying for the Engineer update now. Seems like they're giving us a bit of a raw deal, especially considering servers are going to be jam-packed with soldiers and demos (remember sniper v. spy? How EVERYONE was a sniper or spy? yeah. This is worse.). It is a bad time to be an Engie. :(

[Sel]

Good, I hope it forces engies to learn a real class.

[Aerowyn]

Good, I hope it forces engies to learn a real class.

Well when you start crying that there are no teleporters to the point, and your fat Soldier ass is too slow to get there in time to save it, remember an Engie needs to be there to build one for you.... :realsmug:

[Heathen]

It will most likely reload a lot slower.

[p0lar_bear]

Good, I hope it forces engies to learn a real class.

Sorry can't hear you over the sound of my sentry mopping up the morons! :iamafag:

[sdavis117]

I'm someone who aims my rockets at people when I play as the soldier, not at their feet. This comes as a nice update for myself, even though I can see myself getting annoyed by this if I were to play as the Heavy.


From http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_1
Way to ruin my life as an engineer, Valve. I am hoping this comes with a slower reload time, seeing as that would mean that one soldier could destroy a level 3 sentry in under 5 seconds if he lands even 3 rockets (even with an Engineer sitting on it, wrench ablazin'). I'm calling BS on that.

Reminds me of this game once on 2fort where two engies built a sentry (both Engies collaborated on the single sentry for some reason) in our own base (not in the Intelligence room, but in that room outside of the Intel room). My team, being composed of idiots, decided to ignore the sentry, and instead kept attacking the enemy. Myself, realizing that at some point in this game we would have to deal with these Engies, picked the Soldier and went to confront them. Now before you tell me that I should have gone as a Demo and stickied their asses, this was probably the third game of TF2 I had played, so I didn't actually know my way around completely, but where was I? Oh right, soldier. So I rushed down to our base, and turned the corner to see the sentry. I ducked into the nearest spawn room (which happened to be in the Sentry's line of fire, but out of the range of the targeting thingy), and for the next 5 minutes, I shot at the sentry with my rockets, ducking back into the spawn room every time the sentry shot back, while the Engies repaired the thing. I eventually chose the Heavy, shot at the thing, scared the Engineers away, and destroyed the sentry with rockets while they ducked out, but yeah, moral of story, maybe the sentry could use a little more threat from a soldier.

Second moral: I have come a long ways since my early days in TF2.

[Heathen]

I cant help but read all the soldiers dialog in Sgt. Hatred's voice.

[Aerowyn]

moral of story, maybe the sentry could use a little more threat from a soldier.


Even so, this smacks of being overpowered, especially considering that this could kill a sentry faster than it can take an engineer to actively repair it. It really make it seem useless, because not even being vigilant near your sentry can save it.

People are talking about a possible Engineer update to end the war/close to it, seeing as it is the last class that needs updated (and Valve is looking to get the updates out to the 360 users). It seems as if it would make sense. The newspapers are also dropping subtle hints that perhaps the Engineer is watching the war (he seems to appear in every paper, if you'll notice).

I'm hoping this is the case.

[Inferno]

Can't wait to get my hands on the direct hit. Sounds like rockets in unreal except your moving at 1/3 the speed of unreal. Making it all the easier.

:realsmug:

[Cagerrin]

Hooray, now I can actually play Soldier without remembering to miss.

[sdavis117]

Even so, this smacks of being overpowered, especially considering that this could kill a sentry faster than it can take an engineer to actively repair it. It really make it seem useless, because not even being vigilant near your sentry can save it.

First off, I doubt this will affect Sentries. I don't even remember any time where a rocket damaged one of my Sentries and it wasn't splash damage. If they have a clear line of site to your sentry, they either are almost dead from being shot at continually by dual mini-guns and rockets, or it is a special situation (like the one in my story, where they only way I actually survived was by ducking into a spawn room and just popping my head out every 2 seconds to shoot off a couple rockets).

Second off.....actually, I only had one point. Fuck it, I don't know why, but I keep always saying "First off", even when I only have one point to get across.

[ExAm]

From http://www.teamfortress.com/soldierupdate/index.htm#item_1
Way to ruin my life as an engineer, Valve. I am hoping this comes with a slower reload time, seeing as that would mean that one soldier could destroy a level 3 sentry in under 5 seconds if he lands even 3 rockets (even with an Engineer sitting on it, wrench ablazin'), if I'm estimating damage and that properly. I'm calling BS on that.

I'm praying for the Engineer update now. Seems like they're giving us a bit of a raw deal, especially considering servers are going to be jam-packed with soldiers and demos (remember sniper v. spy? How EVERYONE was a sniper or spy? yeah. This is worse.). It is a bad time to be an Engie. :(I'm thinking that the rockets will not do additional damage to sentries, somewhat like how crit damage boosts don't affect sentires.

EDIT: DAAAAVIIIIIIIIIS

[Aerowyn]

First off, I doubt this will affect Sentries. I don't even remember any time where a rocket damaged one of my Sentries and it wasn't splash damage. If they have a clear line of site to your sentry, they either are almost dead from being shot at continually by dual mini-guns and rockets

What if the sentry is visible and the Soldier is out of the firing range? There's no defending it that way. You could be on top of your game sitting at your sentry and not even that would save it. When you see a soldier shooting that thing at your gun the best thing to do would just be to walk away and find a new place, because there's just no contesting this new gun.

It's overpowered, as stated, not just towards Engies, but towards slower moving targets like Heavies (who I feel a lot of sympathy towards, they get a bad hand as well). This weapon is either going to need nerfed after release or they are going to need to give the Engie something to counter with.

THE GOOD NEWS is that this sounds like rocket jumping is going to be a bad idea for soldiers--with 25% more damage on top of the 60% damage a solider takes when he rocket jumps, it doesn't really seem smart.

[ExAm]

Don't count on increased damage against sentries. Seriously. Valve would not do that, because it is very clearly game-breaking.

[Yoko]

THE GOOD NEWS is that this sounds like rocket jumping is going to be a bad idea for soldiers--with 25% more damage on top of the 60% damage a solider takes when he rocket jumps, it doesn't really seem smart.
It's decreased splash damage, so rocket jumping could very well be impossible with it :v:

[Aerowyn]

Don't count on increased damage against sentries. Seriously. Valve would not do that, because it is very clearly game-breaking.

The update says "25% more destructive force" which is why I assumed it meant towards Sentries/buildings. If it had 25% increase in damage, it would've just said so instead of using the wording it did. And don't put it past Valve.

I guess we'll need to wait and see how this works out.

[Heathen]

The update says "25% more destructive force" which is why I assumed it meant towards Sentries/buildings. If it had 25% increase in damage, it would've just said so instead of using the wording it did. And don't put it past Valve.

I guess we'll need to wait and see how this works out.

besides, you will be able to fire off more shots faster and they will all hit your little sentry. Faster than you can build it up.

Even without the extra damage, this is game over for sents.

[ICEE]

hopefully the splash damage decrease will make it easier for the engi to hide behind his sentry and repair it without getting hit

[Aerowyn]

Even without the extra damage, this is game over for sents.

Which is why a lot of people are suspecting a "surprise" Engineer update with all of this. It seems unfair to boost the two classes strongest against Engineer, especially now that there will be soldiers and demos EVERYWHERE after the update.

There's gotta be something else to it.

[ICEE]

I would like to see a magnet or something that the engie can use to throw any demoman/soldier projectiles off course. Being a target it would probably die quickly, and because of its purpose the engineer would probably be to far from it to do anything about it except rebuild it when it blows up.

[Cortexian]

http://www.teamfortress.com/war/demo/images/05.jpg

SCO
RES

SCOTTISH
RESISTANCE

?

[Phopojijo]

What if the sentry is visible and the Soldier is out of the firing range? There's no defending it that way. You could be on top of your game sitting at your sentry and not even that would save it. When you see a soldier shooting that thing at your gun the best thing to do would just be to walk away and find a new place, because there's just no contesting this new gun.

It's overpowered, as stated, not just towards Engies, but towards slower moving targets like Heavies (who I feel a lot of sympathy towards, they get a bad hand as well). This weapon is either going to need nerfed after release or they are going to need to give the Engie something to counter with.

THE GOOD NEWS is that this sounds like rocket jumping is going to be a bad idea for soldiers--with 25% more damage on top of the 60% damage a solider takes when he rocket jumps, it doesn't really seem smart.
1) Move your sentries so it's always in range.

2) Self-damage is tweaked independent of enemy damage.

[flibitijibibo]

SCO-TCH
RES-ERVES

Molotovs?

[Aerowyn]

1) Move your sentries so it's always in range.


On some maps that's just not possible.




SCO
RES

SCOTTISH
RESISTANCE

?

http://shellgames.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/mel-gibson-braveheart-photograph-c101019223.jpg
FREEEEEDOM!!!!!

[Ifafudafi]

THE GOOD NEWS is that this sounds like rocket jumping is going to be a bad idea for soldiers--with 25% more damage on top of the 60% damage a solider takes when he rocket jumps, it doesn't really seem smart.

Likely, it won't be a simple 60% + 25%; the rocket by default does 60% of the base rocket damage. The base damage is the one increased; so it will be 60% of the upgraded damage (i.e. 60% + 25% of 60%, i.e. 75% damage.)

So new rockets will do 75% damage of a standard rocket when rocket jumping. It's still a sizable increase, however.

As for sentries, from my experience, they already go down quite easily if the attacking soldier is out of its firing range. The most successful building takedowns that I've seen have been done through splash damage; now that this is heavily lessened, the soldiers will have to rely on having a straight shot. Also, with the decreased radius, the surrounding buildings/engie will be a little better off, and providing you've got a well-placed L3 dispenser and are whacking accordingly, it shouldn't be that much of a difference. In fact, the biggest draw of the launcher (80% increased rocket speed) has considerably negligible impact, as the sentries are stationary.

E:
besides, you will be able to fire off more shots faster

Where does it say the new RL gets an increased rate of fire?

[Rook]

now the direct hit, this is much better than the sword and shield.... should be p easy to kill demoman using it. :allears:

[Aerowyn]

now the direct hit, this is much better than the sword and shield.... should be p easy to kill demoman using it. :allears:

Keep in mind that the shield grants a 65% decrease in damage taken from projectiles. Nevermind the fact that the demoman now has the capability to move faster than a scout.

They obviously made the two weapons to balance one another out.

Oh, and on another note for everyone:
REMEMBER, when something is charging at you, and you don't want to get hit, running in a line along with that charging thing WILL GET YOU KILLED!

90-degree angles people. RUN AT 90 DEGREE ANGLES.

[Sel]

Well when you start crying that there are no teleporters to the point, and your fat Soldier ass is too slow to get there in time to save it, remember an Engie needs to be there to build one for you.... :realsmug:

Hey there's this part of the game called rocket jumping, you would know about it if you were any good at the game :)

[Cortexian]

Because rocket jumping increases your speed across great distances! GENIUS!


Oh wait it just makes you jump higher, not run faster, guess that was a bad retort. Also, Engineer supremacy! I've been maining it for awhile now!

[Bodzilla]

Because rocket jumping increases your speed across great distances! GENIUS!


Oh wait it just makes you jump higher, not run faster, guess that was a bad retort. Also, Engineer supremacy! I've been maining it for awhile now!
you really are terrible at everything.

[Phobias]

The soldiers new launcher is the perfect unlock.

[CN3089]

Well when you start crying that there are no teleporters to the point, and your fat Soldier ass is too slow to get there in time to save it,

hi hello perhaps you have heard of.. rocket jumping??

e:f,b, also freelancer is dumb


also if you're one of those engineers who sits in one place with a level 3 and a dispenser and just turtles up then you are a Bad Engineer, hth.

[Good_Apollo]

What if the sentry is visible and the Soldier is out of the firing range? There's no defending it that way. You could be on top of your game sitting at your sentry and not even that would save it. When you see a soldier shooting that thing at your gun the best thing to do would just be to walk away and find a new place, because there's just no contesting this new gun.

Why are you putting sentries down in places where it can be destroyed so easily out of it's range? :allears:

Also, sword and shield thing is gay, new rocket is win.

[Jelly]

Because rocket jumping increases your speed across great distances! GENIUS!


Oh wait it just makes you jump higher, not run faster, guess that was a bad retort. Also, Engineer supremacy! I've been maining it for awhile now!

Co9VmUFPFGM

edit: but yeah in larger maps I'd probably prefer a level 3 teleporter to a medic (or a soldier heh scrubs)(also talking about pubs not mixes).

[Aerowyn]

also if you're one of those engineers who sits in one place with a level 3 and a dispenser and just turtles up then you are a Bad Engineer, hth.

Which is why I Battle Engie on the side. :)

[Cortexian]

also if you're one of those engineers who sits in one place with a level 3 and a dispenser and just turtles up then you are a Bad Engineer, hth.
People play like that? Always battle Engie.


Co9VmUFPFGM
Shows how much I know about bad classes! That better be nerfed soon!

[Rook]

Shows how much I know about bad classes! That better be nerfed soon!

Been like that forever so I don't think they're gonna change it, however on a regular map where your health goes down it's not smart to do crazy shit like that.

[Sel]

Because rocket jumping increases your speed across great distances! GENIUS!


Oh wait it just makes you jump higher, not run faster, guess that was a bad retort. Also, Engineer supremacy! I've been maining it for awhile now!

You are fucking retarded.

[Yoko]

Shows how much I know about bad classes! That better be nerfed soon!
Nerf what? Do you see soldiers flying around the map rocket jumping in ordinary servers like that?

Soldier is getting 4 new weapons, he won't be nerfed anytime soon, play something other than engie.

[Cortexian]

I don't know, I've played Soldier like 10 minutes and never rocket jumped. The only other time I pay attention to Soldiers is when they're threatening my buildings!

And if they can't do that in normal servers the original argument is irrelevant, teleporters are still by far the more efficient method of crossing the battlefield.

[Ganon]

You are fucking retarded.

ITS BAFFLING

rocket jumping has been standard in many FPS

quake 3 supremacy

[ICEE]

Because rocket jumping increases your speed across great distances! GENIUS!


Oh wait it just makes you jump higher, not run faster, guess that was a bad retort. Also, Engineer supremacy! I've been maining it for awhile now!


People play like that? Always battle Engie.


Shows how much I know about bad classes! That better be nerfed soon!


I don't know, I've played Soldier like 10 minutes and never rocket jumped. The only other time I pay attention to Soldiers is when they're threatening my buildings!

And if they can't do that in normal servers the original argument is irrelevant, teleporters are still by far the more efficient method of crossing the battlefield.

You are wrong you are wrong you are wrong.

You continue to get wronger. :ugh:

[Inferno]

You are wrong you are wrong you are wrong.

You continue to get wronger. :ugh:

Nothing new.

HtH.

[teh lag]

shut

up

yes all of you

[Sel]

Wait wait, so Freelancer gets to shit up threads with uninformed statements now, and it's against the rules to call him out on it?

Christ this site is great :downs:

[teh lag]

You are fucking retarded.

[Con]

If you people have a problem then keep it to yourselves. There will be no more offtopic discussion. If you wish to comment further, take it to PMs with either teh lag or myself.

[CN3089]

And if they can't do that in normal servers the original argument is irrelevant, teleporters are still by far the more efficient method of crossing the battlefield.
Baffling how you continue to show absolutely no knowledge of TF2.
A soldier can rocket jump in any map, on any server. He can get to the fight faster than any other class except the demo.
Not that demomen aren't terrible :realsmug:

Furthermore, teleporters are really only of use to heavies and scrubs who can't rocket jump, you should probably play on servers where the population is less terrible.
Really, engineers in general really need to remember they have a shotgun. Far too often an engineer just stands still next to his buildings and whacks away at them not really contributing anything to his team.
Excellent engineers know how to drop a teleporter on the way to the front and then set up a nice level 1 in a spot where you can surprise scrubs and shotgun them in the face.
Educate yourself about the game before you reveal yourself to be utterly uniformed in these threads.
Let's get back to discussing the real focus of this update, the demoman and the soldier. Engineers are terrible and you should feel terrible.
A sword isn't really fitting for somebody specializing in explosives but hey anything that takes away those fucking stickies is OK in my book.
Now we just need to find out what's SCO? RE? is. I bet the first word is Scottish :-3
Crafting better include hats, I need my fuckin fire brigade helmet to properly spread ~chaos~ <http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/extra/maddowns.gif>
Easily the best part of this update is the comics because they're making p0lar_bear so mad :allears:
Really awaiting this update so I can get back to spreading chaos as a pyro instead of helping the war against the demomen :ohdear:

[Aerowyn]

Stop shitting up the thread guys sheesh.



Soldier is getting 4 new weapons, he won't be nerfed anytime soon, play something other than engie.

That's like saying "Play something other than medic."

Engie is still a part of the TEAM. Last time I checked, it was called TEAM Fortress 2. Some people in this thread are trying to diminish the role of the Engineer on the team (not saying you, Yoko, I'm going on a general rant here). But just because he's not out there on the front lines like the pyro, or the heavy, doesn't make him useless.

It's like arguing that the sniper is useless because he's not up in the heat of battle. It's not the sniper's JOB to be out in the front--he's SUPPOSED to be in the back, picking off other snipers and possible threats headed towards the front line. And the Engie is similar.

An engineer is meant to sustain control points until the team has moved forward to the next point (to which he then moves his gear), or to defend the intelligence when everyone else cares more about their k/d than the objective. They provide health and ammo when a medic is too busy chasing a heavy around, and they offer a faster route to the front lines. An engineer has an important job. Just because you take dispensers and teleporters for granted doesn't make the entire class worthless.



Furthermore, teleporters are really only of use to heavies and scrubs who can't rocket jump
yeah, scrubs like heavies medics pyros snipers engineers scouts and spies. Team Fortress 2 just needs to be Demo and Solider Fortress because rocket/sticky jumping is the only requirement to being a good PRO player.

lol u trollin? :allears:

[flibitijibibo]

I think I posted this before, but in case it's buried under shit:
SCO-TCH
RES-ERVES
Molotovs?

And Aerowyn, yes, the engineer is going to be screwed for the next month or so. Let the plummeting playtime for the engie give Valve a clue.

And as for the war itself: I suck balls at both classes, but sniping/stabbing during all of this has been a blast.

[ICEE]

Usually I engoy playing engie (lolseewhatidid) but lately its just been pointless. Being a spy is so much fun now. If there are many soldiers on the enemy team, disguise as a friendly demoman and run into view momentarily. just watch the soldiers all bugout for a chance to kill a demoman. Works the other way around too, but not quite as well.

[ExAm]

The update says "25% more destructive force" which is why I assumed it meant towards Sentries/buildings. If it had 25% increase in damage, it would've just said so instead of using the wording it did. And don't put it past Valve.

I guess we'll need to wait and see how this works out.Not going to happen. Really. It's so obviously overpowered that there is no way that they'd make the damage increase apply to sentries, let alone sentries only.

[Heathen]

engineers in general really need to remember they have a shotgun.

this.

Plus if your sent is any good, you get mad crits.

Aerowyn, they are trolling hard and don't even care.

[Cortexian]

Baffling how you continue to show absolutely no knowledge of TF2.
A soldier can rocket jump in any map, on any server. He can get to the fight faster than any other class except the demo.
Interesting how you keep trying to discredit my opinion even though it's perfectly legitimate and rational.

Teleporters are a faster method of moving entire teams strategically across much larger distances than any Soldier or Demoman could hope to achieve on a regular server due to the amount of health you use while projectile jumping. That said, the Engineer is an extremely important requirement for successfully taking and holding capture points and fortifying key locations on other game types. Any statement contrary to that is simply immature "my class is holier than thou" trolling and/or flaming.

I myself constantly venture short distances away from my Sentry/Dispenser fortress and take the fight too the enemy, luring them back to my Sent and taunting if I have to to lure them around that final corner of doom.

[Aerowyn]

Aerowyn, they are trolling hard and don't even care.

I realize, but I'm relating this all in regards to this new update. You can't just say "just don't be an engineer" because that doesn't solve the problem of this weapon quite potentially being class-breaking.

I'm really eager to see this thing in-game and see exactly how it works.

[ICEE]

If it is initially class breaking I have faith that valve will nerf it. I mean theyve nerfed every other damn thing. To be honest, whenever I play engie, a soldier is never really a huge threat to my encampment as long as I am close enough to respond in time. Of course they always show up when im being a battle engie of greatness.

[English Mobster]

I like the new soldier weapons. Sounds like a shitload of fun, actually, considering how I never (ever) take splash damage into effect when shooting things.

I will NEVER be able to unlock it, though, just like how I've never unlocked the FaN and how the Sandvich took FUCKING FOREVER to get.

[Aerowyn]

I will NEVER be able to unlock it, though, just like how I've never unlocked the FaN and how the Sandvich took FUCKING FOREVER to get.

You can have one of my 6 FANs if you want one. :ugh:

[Yoko]

Don't worry, Valve will release trading and crafting soon

In 2015

Besides FaN is terrible bad and we've been through this already in another thread~

[Heathen]

do I have like...a lot of weapons for only having the game a few months?

I get weapons super often...

[Rook]

do I have like...a lot of weapons for only having the game a few months?

I get weapons super often...

they're easy to get I don't see why people b bitchin.

[p0lar_bear]

Easily the best part of this update is the comics because they're making p0lar_bear so mad :allears:I am so mad right now.

Where is my boy.

I could murder my boy.

[Cortexian]

Eyelander makes me want to play Demoman more now. Me loving my Scottish heritage and the fact that I'm a bagpiper and dress up in manly man kilts all the time not withstanding...

[Phopojijo]

2015Valve Time...

[Heathen]

ItxeFoAM8a0

[BobtheGreatII]

Lol, wow, Crazy.

[CN3089]

:synpe:


Interesting how you keep trying to discredit my opinion even though it's perfectly legitimate and rational.

Teleporters are a faster method of moving entire teams strategically across much larger distances than any Soldier or Demoman could hope to achieve on a regular server due to the amount of health you use while projectile jumping. That said, the Engineer is an extremely important requirement for successfully taking and holding capture points and fortifying key locations on other game types. Any statement contrary to that is simply immature "my class is holier than thou" trolling and/or flaming.

I myself constantly venture short distances away from my Sentry/Dispenser fortress and take the fight too the enemy, luring them back to my Sent and taunting if I have to to lure them around that final corner of doom.

just won five bux, thanks bro :v:

[Heathen]

Live In about an hour.

[Bodzilla]

been waiting 15 minutes >:U!11111111

[InnerGoat]

updates been out for 10 minutes you morons!!

[Bodzilla]

read it :smug:

P coo shit i must say.

equalizer looks bad ass and that war banner. very very handy

[Aerowyn]

Lovely. Just when I think, "You know, the shield takes the place of the sticky gun, at least the engie will be safe from that..."

They put out a fucking sticky bomb gun with MORE STICKIES PER CLIP. GREAT JOB, VALVE. WAY TO FREAKING GO. No one in their right mind will substitute the sticky gun for a shield. Not with an upgrade like that. :(

Valve hates Engineer. :(

[CN3089]

Baffling how you continue to show absolutely no knowledge of TF2.
A soldier can rocket jump in any map, on any server. He can get to the fight faster than any other class except the demo.
Not that demomen aren't terrible :realsmug:

Furthermore, teleporters are really only of use to heavies and scrubs who can't rocket jump, you should probably play on servers where the population is less terrible.
Really, engineers in general really need to remember they have a shotgun. Far too often an engineer just stands still next to his buildings and whacks away at them not really contributing anything to his team.
Excellent engineers know how to drop a teleporter on the way to the front and then set up a nice level 1 in a spot where you can surprise scrubs and shotgun them in the face.
Educate yourself about the game before you reveal yourself to be utterly uniformed in these threads.
Let's get back to discussing the real focus of this update, the demoman and the soldier. Engineers are terrible and you should feel terrible.
A sword isn't really fitting for somebody specializing in explosives but hey anything that takes away those fucking stickies is OK in my book.
Now we just need to find out what's SCO? RE? is. I bet the first word is Scottish :-3
Crafting better include hats, I need my fuckin fire brigade helmet to properly spread ~chaos~ <http://www.modacity.net/forums/styles/smilies/extra/maddowns.gif>
Easily the best part of this update is the comics because they're making p0lar_bear so mad :allears:
Really awaiting this update so I can get back to spreading chaos as a pyro instead of helping the war against the demomen :ohdear:

a troll post... that was right??? http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/Emoticons/16gnc7t.gif

[Good_Apollo]

Lovely. Just when I think, "You know, the shield takes the place of the sticky gun, at least the engie will be safe from that..."

They put out a fucking sticky bomb gun with MORE STICKIES PER CLIP. GREAT JOB, VALVE. WAY TO FREAKING GO. No one in their right mind will substitute the sticky gun for a shield. Not with an upgrade like that. :(

Valve hates Engineer. :(Did you even read the downsides?

[CN3089]

Lovely. Just when I think, "You know, the shield takes the place of the sticky gun, at least the engie will be safe from that..."

They put out a fucking sticky bomb gun with MORE STICKIES PER CLIP. GREAT JOB, VALVE. WAY TO FREAKING GO. No one in their right mind will substitute the sticky gun for a shield. Not with an upgrade like that. :(

Valve hates Engineer. :(

but now demomen can help out turtling engineers by destroying enemy stickies :-3

[Aerowyn]

but now demomen can help out turtling engineers by destroying enemy stickies :-3

Which I generally try to do with my shotgun while defending my sentry anyway.