Wow, really?

[FreedomFighter7]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091231/hl_nm/us_risks_cancers

Thanks for stating the obvious. Made me lawl.

[t3h m00kz]

derpderpDERP

Ironically cannabis is relatively harmless, where as alcohol and tobacco will fucking kick your ass.

[Kornman00]

Ironically cannabis is relatively harmless, where as alcohol and tobacco will fucking kick your ass.
doesn't it still leave tar or w/e in your lungs :v:?

[Llama Juice]

Nah, it just makes you smell like ass and not be able to have coherent conversations.

Sounds like a good time to me! /sarcasm.

[blind]

Nah, it just makes you smell like ass and not be able to have coherent conversations.

Sounds like a good time to me! /sarcasm.

I've had the most coherent conversations while under the influence.

[legionaire45]

Ironically cannabis is relatively harmless, where as alcohol and tobacco will fucking kick your ass.
Cannabis doesn't have a large, corrupt lobby backing it.

[Jelly]

I've had the most coherent conversations while under the influence.
at least, it seemed that way at the time

[t3h m00kz]

Nah, it just makes you smell like ass and not be able to have coherent conversations.

Sounds like a good time to me! /sarcasm.

One shouldn't get high in public any more than they should get drunk imo. Public intoxication is just retarded.


doesn't it still leave tar or w/e in your lungs :v:?

Ironically, there have been no deaths directly linked to smoking it. I'm sure it'll do weird stuff to your lungs after a while and make you short of breath, but it's pretty much proven that it won't kill you.

And I think the tar and danger from cigarettes comes from all the extra chemicals they pump into it, shit is literally poison. If they were just 100% tobacco I bet they'd be much less hazardous.

[ICEE]

And I think the tar and danger from cigarettes comes from all the extra chemicals they pump into it, shit is literally poison. If they were just 100% tobacco I bet they'd be much less hazardous.

This brings up an interesting question: if marijuana were legalized, and cigarette bigwig companies started producing joints for sale, I wonder if the tar and bullshit would be stuck in with the weed as well?

[blind]

at least, it seemed that way at the time

Let me rephrase, me sober while friends high as fuck. Having the best debates and convos.

[Con]

It sounds like the study was to find the differences in risks between smoking and drinking, not to prove that they have risks.

[Mass]

doesn't it still leave tar or w/e in your lungs :v:?
Yes, although not tar, and for whatever reasons it turns out not to be significant.

THC stagnates the growth of tumours (http://www.scienceblog.com/cms/marijuana-ingredient-cuts-lung-cancer-growth-spread-18538.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+scienceblogrssfeed+%28Science +Blog%29).

Here's a researcher at UCLA giving an interview on his extensive study which is tl;dr if you're still interested (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJmQ16cGBHU)

In the end pot smokers in the study had a lower instance of lung cancer, bizarrely. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html)

As for the legalization issue, I've decided I'm quite happy with the way things are, I have much better access than I do to the inferior alcohol. As for corporate control in a world of legal cannabis, it might be pretty bad. Mexican cartels have never run any ads of idyllic Midwestern landscapes and salt of the earth farmers to distract me from their reputation, and they actually have something to sell me.:realsmug:
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html)

[TVTyrant]

Lol, such BS. Inhaling carbon dioxide, NO MATTER WHAT will affect your lungs. It doesn't matter which one, they both produce carbon when burned. CO2 will affect your lungs. I believe that is the major problems with smoking anything.

[Bodzilla]

Cannabis doesn't have a large, corrupt lobby backing it.
that and we had to find a way to punish those dam Darkie Jazz muscians!


Lol, such BS. Inhaling carbon dioxide, NO MATTER WHAT will affect your lungs. It doesn't matter which one, they both produce carbon when burned. CO2 will affect your lungs. I believe that is the major problems with smoking anything.
oh and your wrong.



And Mass Pot aint perfect, due to it mimicking psychotic disorders like schizophrenia anyone with a disposition to it is likely to be effected.
As with anything it's about Controlled use, Not abuse.

Follow that rule and you'll be fine.

[t3h m00kz]

Lol, such BS. Inhaling carbon dioxide, NO MATTER WHAT will affect your lungs. It doesn't matter which one, they both produce carbon when burned. CO2 will affect your lungs. I believe that is the major problems with smoking anything.

If someone's really paranoid about that, they could always just make some of their favorite baked goods! :bunchies:




And Mass Pot aint perfect, due to it mimicking psychotic disorders like schizophrenia anyone with a disposition to it is likely to be effected.
As with anything it's about Controlled use, Not abuse.

Follow that rule and you'll be fine.

Damn right.

Abuse of anything can fuck someone up. Alchohol, tobacco, cheeseburgers, video games, etc

[CrAsHOvErRide]

If you smoke pot accept it side effects and don't be a tool about it. Don't hop onto the "oh it might cure cancer" bandwagon.

Smoke contains aggressive carbon molecules that damage your lung. Just fucking accept it. There is a reason your body coughs and smokers have more problems breathing.

[CN3089]

Really, either all recreational drugs with potentially harmful effects should be banned, including alcohol and tobacco, or they should all be legalized and controlled similar to what we (Ontario) do with alcohol now. Is consistency too much to ask for? :allears:

[Bodzilla]

Really, either all recreational drugs with potentially harmful effects should be banned, including alcohol and tobacco, or they should all be legalized and controlled similar to what we (Ontario) do with alcohol now. Is consistency too much to ask for? :allears:
Chk-chk Boom chk-chk boom

[TVTyrant]

Naw, its way more fun for our governments to waste money on something they will never be able to control.

[DarkHalo003]

I've known this since I was 7. If people my age (I'm 16) ask me why I don't smoke Pot or why I think it's harmful, it's this and other conditions caused by it. Not offending anyone who smokes pot, but I just don't like the risks involved. Drinking is up to you, but in access is always a bad thing.

[t3h m00kz]

Really, either all recreational drugs with potentially harmful effects should be banned, including alcohol and tobacco, or they should all be legalized and controlled similar to what we (Ontario) do with alcohol now. Is consistency too much to ask for? :allears:

Banning alcohol and tobacco isn't going to happen. The companies make way too much money.

most of the anti-drug commercials are funded by alcohol and tobacco companies.

The whole thing is economics.

[Donut]

in response to above darkhalo, my issues with it are the negative opinion surrounding it, the illegitimacy of it, and the chance of a personal addiction. to elaborate, if i were to ever be discovered on marijuana, my dad would probably understand, but i have family members who have no ability to think for themselves and thus would automatically assume im some kind of drug lord or something. the illegitimacy thing ties in here. recently 3 students were expelled from my school for dealings with marijuana. now, given they were fucking imbeciles and were dealing it in the school parking lot, they still got expelled and still got jail time. theyre basically fucked for a long time now. im 16, and tbh i really dont wanna fuck up my future like that. i know the chances are low, but i dont wanna take that risk, you know what i mean? on the addiction topic, i understand that its not a physically addictive drug, but i personally might develop an addiction to it and use it as an anti-depressant. i tend to get angry and down quite often. those times are when i seriously consider getting into marijuana to lift me up, because i know i just wanna be happy, but then i think to myself that i want to be happy without the use of a substance.

i just really wish people wouldnt get so royally fucked when they are discovered to be involved with marijana.

[Bastinka]

Hell, legalize it or atleast decriminalize it. People getting sodomized in jail for carrying an ounce of Marijuana, doesn't seem like a fair punishment.

[Bodzilla]

Hell, legalize it or atleast decriminalize it. People getting sodomized in jail for carrying an ounce of Marijuana, doesn't seem like a fair punishment.
but that have to be seen doing something, otherwise it looks suspiciously like they're doing nothing at all....

We cop the same bullshit with our roads in australia.

[k4is3rxkh40s]

decriminalize it.

That is the only "good" way to do it, otherwise Marijuana will turn into another cigarette; more chemicals, weaker marijuana, and subject to taxes which means even higher prices.

[t3h m00kz]

Taxing something that could grow as easy a weed in your backyard wouldn't really work.

[k4is3rxkh40s]

Taxing something that could grow as easy a weed in your backyard wouldn't really work.

It's simple, but not simple enough that shitloads of people would do it; much like alcohol

[Bodzilla]

ummmmm yeah.

i make alcohol and i can tell you for a fact, gardening is so easy, that even poRn_bear can find time to do it in-between his ever increasing obsession with gay porn.
If he tried to get both his porn "fix" (as they call it on the streets) AND at the same time make and brew alcohol.... well lets just say you better get that shit to forensics before you ride the drunk train.

You need to cut that shit out poRn_bear i mean jesus christ, havn't you wasted the sites bandwidth ENOUGH WITH YOUR OBSESSION?

Regards,
~zilla~

[n00b1n8R]

Lol, such BS. Inhaling carbon dioxide, NO MATTER WHAT will affect your lungs. It doesn't matter which one, they both produce carbon when burned. CO2 will affect your lungs. I believe that is the major problems with smoking anything.
You're right, that carbon dioxide is nasty shit that isn't a bi-product of cellular respiration at all. Now, lets all breathe in. :downs:

[CN3089]

You're right, that carbon dioxide is nasty shit that isn't a bi-product of cellular respiration at all. Now, lets all breathe in. :downs:

it's still harmful



if you don't think our bodies can produce things harmful to us then can I shit on your lunch?

[annihilation]

What harmful things do our bodies naturally produce?

[Bodzilla]

shit.

[Huero]

shit isn't harmful
it's fertilizer.

[Bodzilla]

:facepalm:

[=sw=warlord]

What harmful things do our bodies naturally produce?
Hydrochloric acid, lactic acid, Urine, adrenaline made in excess can be very lethal.

[Bodzilla]

any why do we shit and piss again?

and no, "because we eat and drink" is not an acceptable answer.

[=sw=warlord]

any why do we shit and piss again?

and no, "because we eat and drink" is not an acceptable answer.
Tell that to sweetcorn:mech2:

[t3h m00kz]

ummmmm yeah.

i make alcohol and i can tell you for a fact, gardening is so easy, that even poRn_bear can find time to do it in-between his ever increasing obsession with gay porn.
If he tried to get both his porn "fix" (as they call it on the streets) AND at the same time make and brew alcohol.... well lets just say you better get that shit to forensics before you ride the drunk train.

You need to cut that shit out poRn_bear i mean jesus christ, havn't you wasted the sites bandwidth ENOUGH WITH YOUR OBSESSION?

Regards,
~zilla~

hahaha what the fuck

[Roostervier]

uh iirc we breathe out co2 which can be lethal if u breathe in too much!!

(which by the way is unavoidable [ergo natural] unless you feel like not breathing anymore)

[n00b1n8R]

it's still harmful



if you don't think our bodies can produce things harmful to us then can I shit on your lunch?
At the risk of being trolled, I was mocking him for suggesting CO2 was the most dangerous thing in cigarette smoke (I assume he was after CO (Carbonmonoxide)).

Off to take a dump just to be on the safe side though, bbl