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kid908
January 7th, 2010, 08:45 PM
I'm really wondering what's the difference between these 2 products. Autodesk isn't very clear about it.


3dsM: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?id=13567410&siteID=123112

3dsM Design: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/index?siteID=123112&id=13962547&linkID=10371177

PlasbianX
January 7th, 2010, 08:54 PM
That hard to read lol?


Q: What is 3ds Max Design 2010?
A: 3ds Max Design 2010 software is essentially a customized installation of Autodesk® 3ds Max® 2010 software, the
result of which is an optimized user experience for architects, designers, engineers and visualization specialists.
3ds Max Design has the same functionality as 3ds Max, with the addition of the Exposure™ lighting analysis technology.
The Software Development Kit (SDK) is not provided. Other differences between the two products include user interface
and application defaults, tutorials, sample files, and product websites. Each of these components is tailored for its
respective audience.

More generally, Autodesk 3ds Max Design 2010 software is a comprehensive 3D modeling, animation, and rendering
solution designed to support the way designers and visualization specialists work: creatively, iteratively, and across
multiple software applications. As compared with 3ds Max Design 2009, 3ds Max Design 2010 introduces a number of
key new and enhanced features, including over 100 new modeling tools to let designers explore form‐making, while
refining their designs with a new render‐quality viewport display; new interactive lighting analysis to help iterate more
quickly, validate sustainable solutions and avoid costly mistakes early in the design process; and communicate a
compelling vision is simplified with an extensive library of particle effects and flickerless rendering improvements.

kid908
January 7th, 2010, 08:58 PM
That hard to read lol?
I mean the exact specs. Like what is the REAL difference in features, not general stuff.

2nd paragraph was 3dsMD2010 vs 3dsMD2009

PlasbianX
January 7th, 2010, 09:01 PM
I mean the exact specs. Like what is the REAL difference in features, not general stuff.

I ask again, is it that hard to read lol?


Q. What features are the same between 3ds Max and 3ds Max Design?
A. With the exception of the SDK, 3ds Max Design has 100% of the features found in 3ds Max. 3ds Max and 3ds Max
Design share a single binary. This means that both applications will be able to simultaneously advance from a
technological perspective. When 3ds Max is updated for the latest version of Microsoft® Windows® operating system
(OS) or DirectX® application programming interface (API), 3ds Max Design is updated . A single binary also means that
there is 100% file compatibility as well as plug‐in compatibility between the applications.


Q: Apart from the SDK and Exposure lighting analysis, what is the difference between 3ds Max and 3ds Max Design?
A: The key difference between 3ds Max and 3ds Max Design is that each product is tailored specifically for customers in
different industries. 3ds Max Design is ideal for architects, engineers, designers and visualization specialists, while 3ds
Max is a tool of choice for professionals in the games, film, and television industries.
While these sibling applications are nearly identical technologically, they differ in the following ways:
• User interface and application defaults are optimized for either visualization or entertainment
workflows/pipelines in order to maximize productivity
• 3ds Max Design features Exposure technology for simulating and analyzing sun, sky, and artificial lighting
o 3ds Max does not contain this technology
• 3ds Max includes a powerful SDK for developers
o 3ds Max Design does not contain this SDK
• Tutorials and samples files will be customized to optimize the learning experiences of each customer group for
each product
• Documentation also contains custom content for each product
• Icons and packaging for 3ds Max Design will be more closely aligned with Autodesk AEC solutions for quick visual
recognition. 3ds Max 2010 icons will remain similar to 3ds Max 2009 icons.
• Online user experience will be greatly improved through content tailored for visualization or entertainment
customers

Chainsy
January 7th, 2010, 09:02 PM
Its sort of comparable to gmax being 3ds max's cheap cousin, and free google sketchup being compared to 3ds max design.
One is for actual modeling, the other one is to create visualizations (concepts) and what not. Each one has different functions for different jobs, so neither one is better.

Judging by the work I have seen you do, 3ds max is the one you should stay with.

kid908
January 7th, 2010, 09:06 PM
I ask again, is it that hard to read lol?

wtf. where are you finding this? I can't navigate Autodesk.com for shit...

From what I gathered, they only added one aspect and removed one

PlasbianX
January 7th, 2010, 09:06 PM
Its sort of comparable to gmax being 3ds max's cheap cousin, and free google sketchup being compared to 3ds max design.
One is for actual modeling, the other one is to create visualizations (concepts) and what not. Each one has different functions for different jobs, so neither one is better.

Judging by the work I have seen you do, 3ds max is the one you should stay with.

They both contain the same functions and do the exact same thing with the exception of exposure technology and the SDK. So no, its not really comparable. Theyre just setup by default for a different audience, cost the same price, and you can swap between the two.


wtf. where are you finding this? I can't navigate Autodesk.com for shit...

From what I gathered, they only added one aspect and removed one

The FAQ.

Chainsy
January 7th, 2010, 09:20 PM
They both contain the same functions and do the exact same thing with the exception of exposure technology and the SDK. So no, its not really comparable. Theyre just setup by default for a different audience, cost the same price, and you can swap between the two.



The FAQ.
Naw youre wrong, its obviously meant to fill the space between sketch up and 3ds max, part of their scheme to get more money for microsoft. Igno.

DEElekgolo
January 7th, 2010, 10:03 PM
Naw youre wrong, its obviously meant to fill the space between sketch up and 3ds max, part of their scheme to get more money for microsoft. Igno.
No. Mr.Big uses design 2010 and I use regular 2010. When I was working on his computer, the only difference I noticed was the formats it was able to import, the sun system, the real time exposure testing, and some new spline tools. As well as a more flexible Mental Ray material system.
Your comparing 2 things on completely different levels.
3ds Max 2010 is to 3ds Max 2010 Design as Windows 7 Professional is to Windows 7 Ultimate.

Chainsy
January 7th, 2010, 10:51 PM
No, on the FAQ page in an interview on page 4 they litterally say in a interview it is to bridge the gap between googles sketchup and it's uses. I hate ingos. Go read.

PlasbianX
January 7th, 2010, 11:23 PM
No, on the FAQ page in an interview on page 4 they litterally say in a interview it is to bridge the gap between googles sketchup and it's uses. I hate ingos. Go read.

I just looked at the entire FAQ, and the only mention of sketchup, is that you can now import files from it.