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Con
January 12th, 2010, 06:38 PM
check out this beast of a motherboard
EVGA’s latest and greatest creation comes in the form of a dual-socket LGA 1366 enormous giant codenamed 270-GT-W555. Right off the top, it is clearly evident that this is perhaps the largest PC gaming and enthusiast-oriented motherboard to have ever been considered for release in the public consumer market. It not only features dual LGA 1366 sockets for Intel 45nm Xeon 5500-series processors and upcoming 32nm Westmere-based variants, but it also supports up to 48GB of DDR3 1600MHz+ working in triple-channel mode across all twelve slots.
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stories/2010/January/General%20News/evga_270-gt-w555_angle4.jpg
http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17204/1/
Watch this be the standard in a few years...
ThePlague
January 12th, 2010, 06:44 PM
First I was like :eek:
then I was like :beast:
BobtheGreatII
January 12th, 2010, 06:45 PM
I'm gonna need a bigger case...
legionaire45
January 12th, 2010, 06:46 PM
Watch how that board and the associated processors cost more than more people pay for an entire PC alone.
If this is to become standard (which would be nice), then they'll have to tackle the issue of price first. Not likely given how few people are probably going to spring for systems like this, not until it's cheaper anyway.
Pretty board though :).
Good_Apollo
January 12th, 2010, 06:47 PM
And this thing fits in what case?
Donut
January 12th, 2010, 06:48 PM
do we know how much this goes for yet? not that i would ever consider buying it. im just looking for a good laugh
Warsaw
January 12th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Watch how that board and the associated processors cost more than more people pay for an entire PC alone.
If this is to become standard (which would be nice), then they'll have to tackle the issue of price first. Not likely given how few people are probably going to spring for systems like this, not until it's cheaper anyway.
Pretty board though :).
Well, if you look at KM's PC thread, you'll see that I configured a dual-socket server for around $2100 including two Xeon E5520s, which are probably more than enough for your gaming needs. Assuming this board costs around $500, which is in line with the Server motherboard market, you can build a decent dual CPU gaming configuration easily in the range of other single-CPU high-end PCs.
The real catch is this: what the fuck kind of application do you run that takes advantage of four physical cores period, let alone eight physical cores with hyperthreading?
Heathen
January 12th, 2010, 06:55 PM
bigbang.exe
this is God's computer.
Cortexian
January 12th, 2010, 07:04 PM
It's an enthusiast board Warsaw, it's not supposed to be practical...
Going to have to wait and see what the actual performance gain is on this board, if it's anything like the Skulltrail design it won't be worth it since the performance increase is no where close to what you'd expect (double).
The bigger problem is this (quoted from the article):
it only fits in two computer case lineups ever manufactured in the world. One series is from Lian-Li, and the other series is from SuperMicro.
Also, here's an EVGA X58 4-Way SLI for comparison:
http://www.fudzilla.com/images/stories/2010/January/General%20News/evga_270-gt-w555_comparison.jpg
Warsaw
January 12th, 2010, 07:13 PM
Even enthusiast wouldn't have much use for this board. I consider myself an enthusiast (only reason my PC isn't the highest end of 2005 is because I didn't get to pick my parts, per se), and I would never spend money on this board. I'd drop it on a single slot board and spend the extra on the i7 Extreme 975 and 12GB of DDR3 RAM, but never some bogus thing like this.
cheezdue
January 12th, 2010, 07:14 PM
Holy crap, that thing is a beast.
Cortexian
January 12th, 2010, 07:18 PM
Even enthusiast wouldn't have much use for this board. I consider myself an enthusiast (only reason my PC isn't the highest end of 2005 is because I didn't get to pick my parts, per se), and I would never spend money on this board. I'd drop it on a single slot board and spend the extra on the i7 Extreme 975 and 12GB of DDR3 RAM, but never some bogus thing like this.
You're just not a hardcore enthusiast, you're a sensible enthusiast... I know some people from Fragapalooza that build theirs systems based purely on how ridiculously expensive and pointless the components are (like Skulltrail systems), I'm sure this will be on their list when it comes out.
Cojafoji
January 12th, 2010, 07:21 PM
ugh... not gonna lie. i would become a gay prostitute in order to secure that board, and all of the components needed to make it work.
hubba hubba.
Pyong Kawaguchi
January 12th, 2010, 07:33 PM
is that crossfire or sli.... or both? (6 way sli/crossfire? O.O)
Phopojijo
January 12th, 2010, 07:43 PM
is that crossfire or sli.... or both? (6 way sli/crossfire? O.O)You're allowed 4 channels of 16x PCIe 2.0... so 3-way double-slot SLI + a single-slot PhysX card.
Unfortunately... for the dude who has ANY other card to stick in there.
Such as this (http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/solid_state_drives/ocz_z_drive_p84_pci_express_ssd)
Which... face it... the type of person looking to buy that motherboard would probably have about 2-3 of those.
Ifafudafi
January 12th, 2010, 07:52 PM
That's gotta eat an entire city block's worth of power if enough stuff is attached.
IF I WERE A RICH MAN
Ganon
January 12th, 2010, 07:54 PM
who would even
EX12693
January 12th, 2010, 07:55 PM
I am a rich man.
Now where do you get one and does anyone have a case that will fit it...
Limited
January 12th, 2010, 07:59 PM
I'm gonna need a bigger case...
Looks like I'm gonna need a bigger stash of gold too, my god that would cost alot (including all RAM sticks and CPU etc).
flibitijibibo
January 12th, 2010, 08:08 PM
Oh, come on. Every PCI slot is PCI-ex16? I could sort of understand having only 1 PCI slot, but that's just dumb. Yes, I know it's that way for a lot of boards. This is just making me and my Elite Pro more upset.
Hopefully the on-board audio is acceptable.
InnerGoat
January 12th, 2010, 08:22 PM
But can it play crysis? :iamafag::iamafag: :iamafag::iamafag: :iamafag:
It's quite impressive. Not much more to say about it until people go and break more records with it :v:
Warsaw
January 12th, 2010, 08:23 PM
Not really going to break many frame records, but certainly it will break 3DMark Vantage records.
Amit
January 12th, 2010, 08:24 PM
Oh, come on. Every PCI slot is PCI-ex16? I could sort of understand having only 1 PCI slot, but that's just dumb. Yes, I know it's that way for a lot of boards. This is just making me and my Elite Pro more upset.
Hopefully the on-board audio is acceptable.
Read the article:
At this point, many of you are probably wondering how the seven PCI-Express slot layout works and how many lanes each of them supports in different respective SLI and CrossFire modes. In perspective, the 270-GT-W555 features two Nvidia Nforce 200 chips that enable for full PCI-Express 2.0 x16 bandwidth across Slot 1, Slot 3, Slot 5 and Slot 7 simultaneously. If all seven slots are populated by single-slot cards at the same time, then they will all run in x8 mode except for the very bottom slot which will run in x16 mode. Peter made note that Slot 7 will always run in x16 mode while the other six will vary in bandwidth depending on the number of GPUs installed. This could prove to be very useful for Tri-SLI + PhysX, in which all four cards would be able to run in x16 mode, an impressive feat only capable on this board.
flibitijibibo
January 12th, 2010, 08:26 PM
So they could all operate at 16 anyway (under Tri-SLI+PhysX)? That's not even my complaint. I'm talking about regular ol' PCI 2.0.
Amit
January 12th, 2010, 08:34 PM
So they could all operate at 16 anyway (under Tri-SLI+PhysX)? That's not even my complaint. I'm talking about regular ol' PCI 2.0.
Oh, now I know what you meant. Well, I don't think the guy who buys this thing will need anything other than one PCI slot.
Atty
January 12th, 2010, 08:53 PM
But is it USB3.0 compliant?
Amit
January 12th, 2010, 09:00 PM
But is it USB3.0 compliant?
Two super crazy speed USB 3.0 are available. The other USB ports are 2.0 but double as e-SATA connectors (yeah, wtf?).
Warsaw
January 12th, 2010, 09:10 PM
But is it USB3.0 compliant?
And you could always find a USB 3.0 controller card to add more.
Amit
January 12th, 2010, 09:16 PM
And you could always find a USB 3.0 controller card to add more.
+ 1 hassle. If I was to buy a board like this, I would expect it to have them on there already. This thing isn't slated to hit the consumer market until April, so maybe it'll be updated with more USB 3.0 slots. I was kind of hoping that all USB 2.0 ports would be replaced by USB 3.0 since 2.0 can fit into 3.0 so it doesn't make sense to have 2.0 ports anymore.
Warsaw
January 12th, 2010, 09:29 PM
Doesn't make sense to have 1.1 ports anymore either, but we still do. Still, I like having USB ports since my mouse, keyboard, joystick, and soon throttle, rudder pedals, and TrackIR all require USB. My external HDD requires *two* USB ports.
:)
Cortexian
January 12th, 2010, 09:56 PM
Well if it DOES come out in April I'll get some pictures for you guys in August at Fragapalooza, I'm sure someone will have one... If someone does have one I'll do what I did last year and get a bunch of people together to benchmark a wide variety of GPU's in single and different SLI combination's.
However, if I get the job that I'm looking into right now I might get one of these plus four dual-core GPU's and a bit of memory to build an epic folding machine... I'd be able to get 25,000 points per day on each CPU (50,000ppd) and 16,000 points per day on each GPU (64,000ppd) for a whopping 114,000 points per day, that's 1,000,000 points every 8.8 days!
I'm guestimating these numbers but I'm also under-cutting the ppd values that I've seen people get with similar CPU's and GPU's so I'd probably get more!
Varmint260
January 12th, 2010, 10:05 PM
I definitely have to show this to a guy I know... he built a computer based on how much money he could throw at it a few months ago... I think it was something like 16GB of DDR3, a Core i7 in the more-than-a-thousand-dollars range and two dual GPUs (something like a pair of GTX295s I think). He doesn't use it for awesome gamage; it's more to say "Hi my computer is better than yours." He'll have to buy this motherboard as a matter of principle, I know he will.
EDIT: Wow, Freelancer... I didn't realize you had that big a thing for protein folding.
Amit
January 12th, 2010, 10:27 PM
I definitely have to show this to a guy I know... he built a computer based on how much money he could throw at it a few months ago... I think it was something like 16GB of DDR3, a Core i7 in the more-than-a-thousand-dollars range and two dual GPUs (something like a pair of GTX295s I think). He doesn't use it for awesome gamage; it's more to say "Hi my computer is better than yours." He'll have to buy this motherboard as a matter of principle, I know he will.
EDIT: Wow, Freelancer... I didn't realize you had that big a thing for protein folding.
It's not about the folding. It's about the scenario you stated above. Not Really.
Cortexian
January 12th, 2010, 10:38 PM
It's not about the folding. It's about the scenario you stated above.
NO.
I fold because I care, not because it's an excuse to buy awesome hardware and brag about points per day. I hate people like you, people that assume us folders buy all this hardware because we're competitive, NO. We fold because we believe in the cause and because we hope to find cures for many of the diseases that protein folding is designed to help research.
If I were to buy this it would be because I was able to fund it and it would get no use other than folding 24/7. I'd be setting it up on a tech station, getting it all running, and then leaving it be. I've been looking into building a folding machine for a couple years now but I've never had the funds to justify it. If it where to be built as a desktop then I might get into the bragging setup, but it wouldn't because that would be like saying "oh hey I have better computer hardware than you but can't use it because it does nothing but fold".
What great bragging rights those would be! :allears:
Don't worry, when the new 6-core processors come out I'll be building a new, water-cooled, quad-SLI, ePeen-Stroking-Machine. This will come before the folding machine most likely! :downs:
StankBacon
January 12th, 2010, 11:19 PM
I fold because I care,
LOL
Timo
January 12th, 2010, 11:19 PM
Don't worry, i'm sure you'll post a "guess what this brand new computer is for guys" thread when you buy it! All for the cause!
rossmum
January 13th, 2010, 12:32 AM
i'm curious freelancer,
aren't you worried that if this protein folding thing turns out to be a success, you'll... like, cease to exist or something?
Amit
January 13th, 2010, 12:42 AM
NO.
I fold because I care, not because it's an excuse to buy awesome hardware and brag about points per day. I hate people like you, people that assume us folders buy all this hardware because we're competitive, NO. We fold because we believe in the cause and because we hope to find cures for many of the diseases that protein folding is designed to help research.
If I were to buy this it would be because I was able to fund it and it would get no use other than folding 24/7. I'd be setting it up on a tech station, getting it all running, and then leaving it be. I've been looking into building a folding machine for a couple years now but I've never had the funds to justify it. If it where to be built as a desktop then I might get into the bragging setup, but it wouldn't because that would be like saying "oh hey I have better computer hardware than you but can't use it because it does nothing but fold".
What great bragging rights those would be! :allears:
Don't worry, when the new 6-core processors come out I'll be building a new, water-cooled, quad-SLI, ePeen-Stroking-Machine. This will come before the folding machine most likely! :downs:
Hmm...well, your argument seems valid. My comment was a slight joke, but I should probably mark it as such to prevent any future misunderstanding.
Of course, folding is for the greater good, so there is nothing wrong with stating what your objectives are. However, it's the immense amount of details that you provide that almost makes it seem like you're trying to show off. And there is not only one case of this, but there are many cases where your posts have been of this fashion. That is what makes it so easy for me to make a comment about it. I've never said anything about this before now, but I have noticed it, as every other person on this forum has. Your posts remind me of Buckshot's, but you're not an elitist asshole like he was.
I do agree now, that if it was for bragging rights, you would have a nice showcase for it. Also, you don't know me. I don't have a huge presence of myself on this forum. You do, so I made the assumption that I thought might have been appropriate at the time. I'm sorry if that I have offended you. I didn't think you'd get all riled up about my comment when there was a public outcry to have you banned not too long ago.
Rook
January 13th, 2010, 01:14 AM
not even freelancer
However, if I get the job that I'm looking into right now I might get one of these plus four dual-core GPU's and a bit of memory to build an epic folding machine... I'd be able to get 25,000 points per day on each CPU (50,000ppd) and 16,000 points per day on each GPU (64,000ppd) for a whopping 114,000 points per day, that's 1,000,000 points every 8.8 days!
:woop:
Varmint260
January 13th, 2010, 01:22 AM
I hate people like you, people that assume us folders buy all this hardware because we're competitive, NO.
You have to admit that it isn't exactly a bad assumption. I would seriously doubt it if someone said everyone who runs Folding@Home is completely non-competitive. But I get it; you really want to make a contribution. And now, here's a motherboard that could facilitate a fine folding machine.
Also, if it were an excuse to buy expensive hardware and brag... well, there are better excuses for that, right?
Cortexian
January 13th, 2010, 02:04 AM
Don't worry, i'm sure you'll post a "guess what this brand new computer is for guys" thread when you buy it! All for the cause!
I might post the build log here, if/when I build it I'll photograph it and detail the steps and such as well as the setup process and all my configuration information. It won't be for you though, it'll be for the website/team I fold for so other people can benefit from what I find.
i'm curious freelancer,
aren't you worried that if this protein folding thing turns out to be a success, you'll... like, cease to exist or something?
Uh, what. :ugh:
:words:
I understand your point regarding my posting history when it comes to my personal technology, but I've stated many times that I fold, and that it's not just to play with fancy hardware and get competitive.
Also, if it were an excuse to buy expensive hardware and brag... well, there are better excuses for that, right?
Exactly, I could say I was an MLG faggot or something and "require all the latest hardware in order to keep my edge"!
Or something along the lines of "I do occasional video editing and the rendering takes forever"... Which is probably the excuse I'd actually use if I were to build this as a personal desktop...
p0lar_bear
January 13th, 2010, 04:05 AM
Jesus Christ that board is probably bigger than the ones in the two IBM servers I took out of a doctor's office a couple months ago, and those cases were pretty freakin' long.
Limited
January 13th, 2010, 07:35 AM
NO.
I fold because I care, not because it's an excuse to buy awesome hardware and brag about points per day. I hate people like you, people that assume us folders buy all this hardware because we're competitive, NO. We fold because we believe in the cause and because we hope to find cures for many of the diseases that protein folding is designed to help research.
Don't worry, when the new 6-core processors come out I'll be building a new, water-cooled, quad-SLI, ePeen-Stroking-Machine. This will come before the folding machine most likely! :downs:
Cmon Freelancer, we ALL know you love to brag about your hardware, from your "heres Halo with 3 screens" to your thread about having a tripod with camera attached to the car.
You even have the audacity to brag about something you havent even got yet in the same post.
Cortexian
January 13th, 2010, 12:24 PM
That's been my planned upgrade stage since I bought this machine, upgrade every second generation of core hardware. Might wait until the socket that comes after 1366/1156 though because i9 processors won't really be "next gen".
And that was kind of the point of adding that entire last line.
Limited
January 13th, 2010, 12:39 PM
I'm not doubting if its true. I'm just saying the way you said it was very smug, and all you posts about your technology is.
CrAsHOvErRide
January 13th, 2010, 12:40 PM
Invest your money into something useful.
Cortexian
January 13th, 2010, 12:41 PM
Invest your money into something useful.
Protein Folding, learn to read please.
teh lag
January 13th, 2010, 01:39 PM
dear thread,
please do not become terrible and full of people being angry about how self-righteous folding may or may not be or the technology involved in the same
regards,
teh lag
Warsaw
January 13th, 2010, 04:38 PM
That's been my planned upgrade stage since I bought this machine, upgrade every second generation of core hardware. Might wait until the socket that comes after 1366/1156 though because i9 processors won't really be "next gen".
And that was kind of the point of adding that entire last line.
Looking at how long LGA775 lasted, I think it will be a long time before a socket to replace 1366 is made.
Bhamid
January 14th, 2010, 11:41 AM
I still don't understand why Intel has two (or three if i3 needs its own sockets) different sockets for its new generation of chips :ohdear:
Warsaw
January 14th, 2010, 12:04 PM
It's a money making scheme. Most everybody will be happy with 1156. If you want triple channel memory though, you have no choice but to buy a 1366-based platform. There isn't really much of an advantage to buying 1156.
Cortexian
January 14th, 2010, 06:47 PM
i3 uses 1156, so it's only two sockets.
Warsaw
January 14th, 2010, 08:40 PM
That's still one more than is necessary.
Cortexian
January 14th, 2010, 11:30 PM
I'm not debating that...
Dwood
January 15th, 2010, 04:04 PM
I'd like to have a Mobo that can run 2 OSes at one time and being able to switch between them (Without neglecting support for Win XP) without having to do more than a keystroke or two... AND without a significant performance drop. The first Mobo I hear of that can do this I will buy the second I have the money. :P
Phopojijo
January 15th, 2010, 04:12 PM
Just have a fairly cheap secondary computer networked together and both attached to a KVM switch.
flibitijibibo
January 15th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Just have a fairly cheap secondary computer networked together and both attached to a KVM switch.
Yeah, and you don't even need a physical KVM. InputDirector <3 (http://www.inputdirector.com/)
Dwood
January 15th, 2010, 06:08 PM
Yeah, and you don't even need a physical KVM. InputDirector <3 (http://www.inputdirector.com/)
Okay now that's awesome. Now, time to be saving money... I need a new 'chine.
Varmint260
January 16th, 2010, 12:17 AM
I'd like to have a Mobo that can run 2 OSes at one time and being able to switch between them
It would still require two motherboards, but how about one of these?
http://media.techeblog.com/images/v8_mod_2.jpg
Yeah I know, old pic. Still, I want one.
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