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CN3089
January 13th, 2010, 08:36 AM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c251/CN3089/gogogoogle.jpg


A new approach to China (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-approach-to-china.html)

1/12/2010 03:00:00 PM
Like many other well-known organizations, we face cyber attacks of varying degrees on a regular basis. In mid-December, we detected a highly sophisticated and targeted attack on our corporate infrastructure originating from China that resulted in the theft of intellectual property from Google. However, it soon became clear that what at first appeared to be solely a security incident--albeit a significant one--was something quite different.

First, this attack was not just on Google. As part of our investigation we have discovered that at least twenty other large companies from a wide range of businesses--including the Internet, finance, technology, media and chemical sectors--have been similarly targeted. We are currently in the process of notifying those companies, and we are also working with the relevant U.S. authorities.

Second, we have evidence to suggest that a primary goal of the attackers was accessing the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. Based on our investigation to date we believe their attack did not achieve that objective. Only two Gmail accounts appear to have been accessed, and that activity was limited to account information (such as the date the account was created) and subject line, rather than the content of emails themselves.

Third, as part of this investigation but independent of the attack on Google, we have discovered that the accounts of dozens of U.S.-, China- and Europe-based Gmail users who are advocates of human rights in China appear to have been routinely accessed by third parties. These accounts have not been accessed through any security breach at Google, but most likely via phishing scams or malware placed on the users' computers.

We have already used information gained from this attack to make infrastructure and architectural improvements that enhance security for Google and for our users. In terms of individual users, we would advise people to deploy reputable anti-virus and anti-spyware programs on their computers, to install patches for their operating systems and to update their web browsers. Always be cautious when clicking on links appearing in instant messages and emails, or when asked to share personal information like passwords online. You can read more here (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/next-steps-in-cyber-security-awareness.html) about our cyber-security recommendations. People wanting to learn more about these kinds of attacks can read this U.S. government report (http://www.uscc.gov/researchpapers/2009/NorthropGrumman_PRC_Cyber_Paper_FINAL_Approved%20R eport_16Oct2009.pdf) (PDF), Nart Villeneuve's blog (http://www.nartv.org/) and this (http://www.scribd.com/doc/13731776/Tracking-GhostNet-Investigating-a-Cyber-Espionage-Network) presentation on the GhostNet spying incident.

We have taken the unusual step of sharing information about these attacks with a broad audience not just because of the security and human rights implications of what we have unearthed, but also because this information goes to the heart of a much bigger global debate about freedom of speech. In the last two decades, China's economic reform programs and its citizens' entrepreneurial flair have lifted hundreds of millions of Chinese people out of poverty. Indeed, this great nation is at the heart of much economic progress and development in the world today.

We launched Google.cn in January 2006 in the belief that the benefits of increased access to information for people in China and a more open Internet outweighed our discomfort in agreeing to censor some results. At the time we made clear (http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2006/02/testimony-internet-in-china.html) that "we will carefully monitor conditions in China, including new laws and other restrictions on our services. If we determine that we are unable to achieve the objectives outlined we will not hesitate to reconsider our approach to China."

These attacks and the surveillance they have uncovered--combined with the attempts over the past year to further limit free speech on the web--have led us to conclude that we should review the feasibility of our business operations in China. We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all. We recognize that this may well mean having to shut down Google.cn, and potentially our offices in China.

The decision to review our business operations in China has been incredibly hard, and we know that it will have potentially far-reaching consequences. We want to make clear that this move was driven by our executives in the United States, without the knowledge or involvement of our employees in China who have worked incredibly hard to make Google.cn the success it is today. We are committed to working responsibly to resolve the very difficult issues raised.

It's nice to see Google following through on their (unofficial) slogan, even when it may potentially cost them a lot of money- I think they had something like a 30% market share in China.

rossmum
January 13th, 2010, 11:37 AM
About time someone actually did something. Meanwhile, Kevin Rudd continues to tell China how much he disapproves of their routine and severe violations of human rights, but he seems just as happy to continue letting them have whatever they like, including a large share of our uranium if I recall correctly. Instead of using it for ourselves (well, the general public is too dumb and anti-nuclear anyway), we merrily give it away to all and sundry. Sweet.

basically fuck you china and fuck you australian labor party

Cojafoji
January 13th, 2010, 12:09 PM
Did not expect this from Google, but good for them on having a spine.

klange
January 13th, 2010, 01:07 PM
Well what do we have here? (http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen+massacre)

Cojafoji
January 13th, 2010, 02:11 PM
Well what do we have here? (http://images.google.cn/images?q=tiananmen+massacre)
i did the same thing this morning. i was TOTALLY surprised.

i remember when i did the same search about three years ago, and I got no results.

Donut
January 13th, 2010, 03:47 PM
lol wow at that Tienanmen square thing
i bet theyre pissed

Cojafoji
January 13th, 2010, 03:57 PM
http://i.imgur.com/5xJmy.jpg

Kornman00
January 13th, 2010, 04:37 PM
Nice tombstone logo

heh, it's snowing in hell?

Amit
January 13th, 2010, 04:40 PM
i did the same thing this morning. i was TOTALLY surprised.

i remember when i did the same search about three years ago, and I got no results.

Holy fuck! This shit is crazy.

klange
January 13th, 2010, 04:44 PM
Here's a fun one: Go to baidu (http://www.baidu.com/). Search for "googleblog.blogspot.com". Enjoy being blocked from baidu for five minutes. Also works on Yahoo.cn and every other Chinese website (including non-search websites, just put googleblog.blogspot.com in the URL somewhere to be instantly blocked!)

Amit
January 13th, 2010, 04:54 PM
Here's a fun one: Go to baidu (http://www.baidu.com/). Search for "googleblog.blogspot.com". Enjoy being blocked from baidu for five minutes. Also works on Yahoo.cn and every other Chinese website (including non-search websites, just put googleblog.blogspot.com in the URL somewhere to be instantly blocked!)

Motherfuckers. I searched halo and many other terms multiple times at both yahoo and baidu and they came up with the usual results. As soon as I typed in in "googleblog.blogspot.com" and pressed enter, I got the "This webpage is not available." Bam, instablock. Hell, At yahoo.cn I only typed in google blog and still got blocked out. Communist motherfuckers. IF there is one thing I absolutely hate is the oppression of people and censorship.

Bodzilla
January 13th, 2010, 05:39 PM
props google, you just gained a great deal of respect from me, and i agree with ross, about everything.

n00b1n8R
January 13th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Less dicksucking of china will do the world good.
Fuck em.

in b4 ww3 China vs world and hello Fallout.

English Mobster
January 13th, 2010, 09:33 PM
Fuck yes. Google. I love you.
Also, lol at those flowers.

Horns
January 13th, 2010, 10:37 PM
I <3 Google

rossmum
January 14th, 2010, 01:49 AM
hahaha wow holy fuck china are gonna be mad, i hope literally everyone looked up those photos

Cortexian
January 14th, 2010, 04:18 AM
Psh, I'm sure Google probably has more resources than the entirely of China anyways!

Go Go GoogleRanger!

n00b1n8R
January 14th, 2010, 06:19 AM
Why couldn't governments start megacompanys like Google and stuff, really clever ideas which blow away the competition and reap in billions every year. Sure that's a drop in the ocean for countrys like the US but for smaller, poorer countries (looking at you Africa) it could be a oneway ticket to financial prosperity.

You know, instead of living hand to mouth off of forign aid.

/offtopic

Cojafoji
January 14th, 2010, 11:04 AM
Psh, I'm sure Google probably has more resources than the entirely of China anyways!

Go Go GoogleRanger!
than the entirely of china eh?

sdavis117
January 14th, 2010, 05:25 PM
than the entirely of china eh?
Hyperbole, but Google probably does have the combined GDP of a small country, maybe even a medium one.

Cojafoji
January 14th, 2010, 05:26 PM
Hyperbole, but Google probably does have the combined GDP of a small country, maybe even a medium one.
I was being sarcastic.