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Timo
March 16th, 2010, 01:57 AM
The New Zealand Government has quietly implemented a country-wide internet filtering system, designed to filter illegal content from the public, such as Beastiality and Child Pornography. The filter is opt-in by ISP's, and is governed by New Zealands "official censors" (Although, according to Ars Technica, you too can be a censor for a day!).

The internet filter system is a manually maintained blacklist of sites, which is kept up to date by government appointed censor officials. ISP's do not have to sign up to the filter, as it is still voluntary, but many ISP's are currently performing tests of the filter before implementation, including TelstraClear, and Vodafone NZ.

"Filtering out child pornography is also very much in line with our company values—our customers would be disappointed to hear if we weren’t participating. So participation for us has always been a no-brainer." said Maxnet CEO John Hanna to Computerworld New Zealand.

Ars Technica reports that the filtering system uses a BSD Unix-based appliance called WhiteBox from Swedish company Netclean, and uses the BGP protocol (Border Gateway Protocol) to advertise itself to ISP's.

The filter was implemented quietly, and without notification beginning in February 2010, and many are not happy about this. A group called "Tech Liberty" have spoken up, and have noted that the filter has it's faults, and is very easy to bypass. According to Thomas Beagle, head of Tech Liberty:
The filter can’t intercept encrypted web traffic (https). It’s not hard to change your website from non-secure http to secure https. And, if you do, the DIA filter server can’t intercept it.
The filter can’t intercept the file sharing, email, chat, instant messaging or anything other than unencrypted web traffic. (Although it does intercept people accessing those services via websites.)
Adding new entries to the filter is a manual process. When websites are so easy and quick to set up, we don’t see how it’s possible for them to do a good enough job to keep the filter list up to date enough.
The filter will only be used by some ISPs. If a number of major ISPs don’t use the filter, is there any point in implementing it for the ones that do?
A motivated person can easily get around the filter. It is relatively trivial for a motivated person to use tools freely available on the Internet to circumvent the filter.

Tech Liberty also notes that the filter provides a single point of failure for the entire New Zealand internet, and could be prone to attacks such as DNS poisoning and DDOS. The government is being very secretive about the block list and is refusing to share it with individuals, due to the fact that it could aid the public to find disallowed websites.

TechLiberty believes that this allows a lot of room for government abuse of the control, as have been the cases in places such as the United Kingdom where Wikipedia was inadvertently blocked for a week.


tl;dr:
http://www.modacity.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1444&d=1268719240

flibitijibibo
March 16th, 2010, 02:05 AM
Why hello there system that fails harder than Australia's!

Seriously, this is like parental blocking's SecuROM.

paladin
March 16th, 2010, 02:06 AM
Poor Timo

ICEE
March 16th, 2010, 02:20 AM
I cared when I read this, then I realized it doesn't effect America.


But seriously, bummer.

Bodzilla
March 16th, 2010, 02:22 AM
god

fucking

dammit

Bhamid
March 16th, 2010, 12:54 PM
Good thing I moved then...

Dwood
March 16th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Read: It's voluntary.

neuro
March 16th, 2010, 01:20 PM
god

fucking

dammit

WHERE WILL YOU GET YOUR CHILDPORNOGRAPHY?!!?!

=sw=warlord
March 16th, 2010, 01:24 PM
WHERE WILL YOU GET YOUR CHILDPORNOGRAPHY?!!?!
Watch out, he might start throwing his boomerang at you for being complacent.

Timo
March 16th, 2010, 03:26 PM
Read: It's voluntary.

It's voluntary for ISPs to jump on board, blocking websites to all their customers. TelstraClear is, and they're the only ISP that offers Cable in my area.


WHERE WILL YOU GET YOUR CHILDPORNOGRAPHY?!!?!

I would post my usual set of links here but I don't want this site to get banned too!

Cojafoji
March 16th, 2010, 04:02 PM
Censorship: It always starts small!

:iamafag:

Good_Apollo
March 16th, 2010, 04:41 PM
Damnit. No more CP and Horse fucking for you NZ guys. Revolt, the loli might be next!!!!

Rook
March 16th, 2010, 05:19 PM
I'm genuinely sorry, probably a matter of time until it branches out. :shake:

n00b1n8R
March 16th, 2010, 07:49 PM
Welp, looks like I'm moving to Canada now. Ross and FL make some room.

Needles
March 16th, 2010, 08:18 PM
I'm not understanding what's so bad about it. It's only blocks child porn, I don't think it'll escalate to large censorship.

Phopojijo
March 16th, 2010, 08:19 PM
It's funny how people always say "Well where will you get your child porn now?"

Just recently there was a shutdown on Usenet "because of Child Pornography" -- for 88 instances of Child Porn on 18000+ groups of threads of posts that were deleted as a result.

88 out of 18,000... that's less than a half of a percent of groups... and if you compare posts it will be *much* less than even that.

So in closing:

*************

Protip: If they say because of Child Pornography... there's a reason that they don't want anyone to make a stance against it.

I smell the RIAA... it smells like cocaine.

Needles
March 16th, 2010, 08:22 PM
It's funny how people always say "Well where will you get your child porn now?"

Just recently there was a shutdown on Usenet "because of Child Pornography" -- for 88 instances of Child Porn on 18000+ groups of threads of posts that were deleted as a result.

88 out of 18,000... that's less than a half of a percent of groups... if you compare posts it will be *much* less than even that.

So in closing:

*************

Protip: If they say because of Child Pornography... it's because there's a reason that they don't want anyone to make a stance against it.

I smell the RIAA... it smells like cocaine.

Oh... well, that is a bit shitty =/. I never really thought of that, thanks for pointing it out.

Phopojijo
March 16th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Oh... well, that is a bit shitty =/. I never really thought of that, thanks for pointing it out.Yeah... "Child Porn" is best summarized by... of all things -- The Family Guy.

Politician: "There is no just cause for an invasion of Iraq."
Peter: "Well, that may be. But what we’re all forgetting is, anyone who doesn’t wanna to go to war is gay."
(resounding agreement to go to war.)

If you don't support this bill, you support pedophiles.
Ah... and it soooooo works too... people believe it.

English Mobster
March 17th, 2010, 01:59 AM
The internet will rise up in revolt all over the moment this takes place. Granted, 888chan has been down (not affiliated with 4chan, primarily used as an anti-DRM/anti-censorship attack board) since the beginning of the year, but the moment word of this spreads, the entire internet will show its flaws.

If I were to make a prediction as to what would happen should this go live, I would expect a massive DDOS on New Zealand's servers to demonstrate exactly how weak and flawed the system is.
I doubt it would work, however, you poor New Zealanders would just be without internet for a few days.
Begin writing angry letters.

Cojafoji
March 17th, 2010, 01:09 PM
yes... the entire internet will rise up against this...

just like it did for australia...

/s

phopo is right. using the fear of public humiliation to get what you want. deliciously awful.

Dwood
March 17th, 2010, 01:44 PM
The DDOS idea would be about as effective as the NRA DDOSing Greenpeace. E: It would just get turned around and used as fuel.

Phopojijo
March 17th, 2010, 08:17 PM
phopo is right. using the fear of public humiliation to get what you want. deliciously awful.And it works because they got this "protect the children" ideal stuck in their mind... whether or not they actually are helping their children -- or even hurting their children.

There was (is) even a Web Monitoring software company (http://www.echometrix.com/products/Default.aspx) that (on top of providing you with chat logs, web history, etc.) without the child's knowledge... they preyed on the parent's insecurity. How? They also sold the logs and history to "trusted partners". Because nothing says protecting your children online like providing their most personal information and secrets to companies who are interested in exploiting it for a profit without notifying them.

Cojafoji
March 17th, 2010, 08:55 PM
And it works because they got this "protect the children" ideal stuck in their mind... whether or not they actually are helping their children -- or even hurting their children.

There was (is) even a Web Monitoring software company (http://www.echometrix.com/products/Default.aspx) that (on top of providing you with chat logs, web history, etc.) without the child's knowledge... they preyed on the parent's insecurity. How? They also sold the logs and history to "trusted partners". Because nothing says protecting your children online like providing their most personal information and secrets to companies who are interested in exploiting it for a profit without notifying them.
There's a term for that: "Penis Hustlers."

Yes, you heard me. These people are penis hustlers...