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Amit
November 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM
I got the game free so maybe I'm being biased but:

1. The graphics where not that bad at all.
2. I liked the story. (Especially the ending)

If you're playing on the Xbox and the graphics look good, I wouldn't be surprised. It seems like they fucked all for the PC version.

Also, I liked the ending...until I found out it was the ending.

Yoko
November 7th, 2010, 05:20 PM
Why anybody would drop $60 on this game is completely beyond me.
Pre-order bonuses/discounts, or you could trade in old vidyas to lower the price

Or you could trade in old vidyas and get a pre-order bonus + discount at Gamestop like me
http://knowyourmeme.com/i/000/052/812/original/Deal_with_it_dog_gif.gif

Donut
November 7th, 2010, 05:51 PM
the preorder content isnt even ingame content. AFAIK its just an avatar item and a chance to win one of those big wranglers.

also how are you getting a discount at gamestop?

Yoko
November 7th, 2010, 06:14 PM
Got a free pre-order for any upcoming game when I traded in a few old ps2 games, $5 is better than nothing though

Amit
November 7th, 2010, 08:45 PM
I'm purely a PC gamer and I have no console games to trade in...besides some Wii games, which are not mine to trade in. Well, I own The Super Marios Bros. Wii, but it's too new to trade in.

Spartan094
November 7th, 2010, 10:37 PM
http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?sku=800527&ref=recpdp&cross=200787

I swear to god, if any of you people are buying this, I will kill you. :allears:

paladin
November 8th, 2010, 12:58 AM
what are them, just glasses?

Amit
November 8th, 2010, 01:32 AM
Just another one of those bullshit sets of glasses for people who want to protect their eyes while gaming. It's actually not surprising to see the price that high since related products are similarly priced. They are all way overpriced, though.

Spartan094
November 8th, 2010, 07:20 AM
I'm probably gonna update the first page with a bunch of videos. And also I asked a mod to reset/change the polls for tomorrow.

Updated first page with most "important" videos.

Pyong Kawaguchi
November 8th, 2010, 11:13 AM
Aussies got the game on steam.
Someone should lend me a VPN account, or go on teamviewer and enable vpn mode :iamafag:

paladin
November 8th, 2010, 11:42 AM
Im getting the game tonight :iamafag:

Kornman00
November 8th, 2010, 12:02 PM
e: Was able to "reset" the poll by creating a new thread with the new poll, then merging the thread with this and replacing the old poll with mine.

Here are the old stats:
Will buy: 14
Not buying: 20
I'll stick with MW2: 2
I'll play Halo Reach: 32

Rook
November 8th, 2010, 12:29 PM
Should have made "I'll play halo reach" to "I"ll play other games"! Or even an option "I'll wait until SFX tells me if it's good or not".

Kornman00
November 8th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Or you could just select "Not buying it", or just wait until some bloke feeds you an earful before you vote.

hth

Amit
November 8th, 2010, 05:08 PM
I can't really vote until I get my hands on this game and play it thoroughly. Initially I said I'd just play Halo: Reach. However, now seeing how balanced the game can be, I am seriously considering the purchase of this game. Still I won't purchase it until I've had at least 3 hours to muck around in it.

p0lar_bear
November 8th, 2010, 05:18 PM
Not buying it on my own accord; probably like with MW2 only if a bunch of friends and/or coworkers get it.

Donut
November 8th, 2010, 05:52 PM
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this is really upsetting, and i guarantee you we will be seeing alot more of this. now you cant even use coldblooded (or whatever the equivalent is) to hide from killstreaks. if i ever got this game, it would be barebones all the way

Spartan094
November 8th, 2010, 05:55 PM
Quick go into ARMOR LO...oh wait.

Also thanks korn for resetting the poll :realsmug:

§partan 8
November 8th, 2010, 08:15 PM
Have you guys seen this? This is probably one of the reasons I won't buy this game anymore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8GN8WwzrHs

TeeKup
November 8th, 2010, 08:16 PM
I KNEW that stupid Boom Buggy would be retarded. Still wanna see the rest of the game though. However, common sense dictates that you shouldn't bunch THAT close in a call of duty game...I mean really.

EDIT @ Spartan 8: What the fuck are you talking about...Thats good, it stops all those quick scoping FAGGOTS....If you're trying to snipe on a map with sightlines no greater than 50 feet you're an idiot anyway. I Hated those people with a dying passion

ICEE
November 8th, 2010, 08:20 PM
Have you guys seen this? This is probably one of the reasons I won't buy this game anymore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8GN8WwzrHs

I guess they still haven't figured out how to make proper balanced sniping (http://tf2wiki.net/wiki/Sniper)

Spartan094
November 8th, 2010, 08:23 PM
Tbh its supposed to be a realistic shooter, you can not quick scope ever in real life other then pull the trigger from the hip when surprised.

§partan 8
November 8th, 2010, 08:25 PM
It's stupid takes 2-3 seconds for the bullet to actually to go straight. That's too long. I mostly play snipers because that's all I like and they fucked that up I guess I'm not getting it I'll just stick to mw2.



Edit: wanna make it real life? why don't you only get one life for the game? And if you die you can't play it anymore and they should take out the perks that's real life.

TeeKup
November 8th, 2010, 08:27 PM
The lack of intelligence let alone proper grammar and sentence structure in that post is just staggering.

Spartan094
November 8th, 2010, 08:29 PM
Come back when your grammar is better and I can make some sense of it. All I'm saying is what the devs say, it's supposed to be a realistic shooter.

ICEE
November 8th, 2010, 08:30 PM
The lack of intelligence let alone proper grammar and sentence structure in that post is just staggering.

Agreed... >.>

but ultimately his point is supportable, I'd say.

§partan 8
November 8th, 2010, 08:32 PM
Lol sorry bout the grammar I'm at work trying not to get caught being on my phone

TeeKup
November 8th, 2010, 08:34 PM
Whatever the argument is, is irrelevant. All the changes we've seen so far regarding balance were made because those issues at hand were what made MW2 BAD.

I'm sorry if I don't enjoy being quick scoped all the way across the map on Wasteland by some faggot with an M14 EBR (it's not an M21 fuck you IW) because he has no sense of respect for gameplay. Sniping is you looking down your scope, getting a bead, and taking down your target; not spamming your gun while twitching the Aim Down Sights button. Fuck that.

Spartan094
November 8th, 2010, 08:39 PM
I can go into a whole detail list of snipers very easily and you can not quick scope and think it's accurate in real life.

Donut
November 8th, 2010, 08:44 PM
sniper rifles in call of duty have been broken for 3 games in a row now. between quickscoping and that no-scope bullshit, "talented" players will only use sniper rifles regardless of the map. THAT FACT IN ITSELF should have sent a huge fucking red flag up before they even thought about making WaW, let going through WaW and mw2. sleight of hand pro with the faster aim down sight is bullshit with sniper rifles because they are LONG RANGE weapons and SHOULD NOT defeat somebody with an assault rifle or smg at close range. the 3-4 second sight thing is kind of long, and definitely is not the best solution, but at least theyre taking a step in the right direction. this shows that at least they are acknowledging that this has been a problem

now lets see what they did to mitigate no-scoping, if anything. the quickscoping is bullshit, but noscoping is a straight up glitch in the engine that has not been fixed for 3 games straight. i think its called a g-shot. you side step, wait for the crosshairs to shrink back down, and then fire at a certain time, and the bullet will go dead center in the screen. iv never done it, i just saw a youtube video explaining it. i just cant belive that they basically mod the game and re-release it once a year, get thousands of videos on youtube showing trickshots and glitches, and yet still fail to fix any of the problems. im not even talking about balance issues right now.

i know i went on a rant there, but i kind of think its necessary we all understand the issue here.

§partan 8
November 8th, 2010, 08:48 PM
This is why it is a game. All I'm saying is they took out the fun in sniping. I know it doesn't take skill to QS but it's fun to do it. If you actually have to take the time to line up your shot and assume which direction the enemy will be running then you might as well just take the snipers out of the game. It would take too long to line up a shot when someone is shooting at you already. Plus this will probably just make people camp more with snipers.

Limited
November 8th, 2010, 09:09 PM
This is why it is a game. All I'm saying is they took out the fun in sniping. I know it doesn't take skill to QS but it's fun to do it. If you actually have to take the time to line up your shot and assume which direction the enemy will be running then you might as well just take the snipers out of the game. It would take too long to line up a shot when someone is shooting at you already. Plus this will probably just make people camp more with snipers.A sniper isn't suppose to be standing in the middle of a courtyard. They are supposed to be hiding, waiting for their prey. Yes it makes people camp, but thats what real snipers do.

I'm glad they've fixed the quick scope issues.

Donut
November 8th, 2010, 09:12 PM
I know it doesn't take skill to QS but it's fun to do it. If you actually have to take the time to line up your shot and assume which direction the enemy will be running then you might as well just take the snipers out of the game.
are you fucking serious :aaaaa:

i dont mean to be an asshole, but holy shit, if it takes skill, take it out? yeah, youre absolutely right, this DOES encourage camping, but if the maps were designed in a way where youre never completely safe in one spot that shouldnt be an issue.

§partan 8
November 8th, 2010, 09:15 PM
are you fucking serious :aaaaa:

i dont mean to be an asshole, but holy shit, if it takes skill, take it out? yeah, youre absolutely right, this DOES encourage camping, but if the maps were designed in a way where youre never completely safe in one spot that shouldnt be an issue.


That's not what I mean't.

Donut
November 8th, 2010, 09:26 PM
i know you said youre on a phone at work trying not to get caught, so when you get home and have access to a computer, think and type out what you do mean so we can discuss this properly. i apologize for the hostility.

Spartan094
November 8th, 2010, 09:27 PM
Rage more tommorow kiddies when you can't quick scope which makes me smile when I go against a sniper.

Also
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Then again I live by Ft. Benning (GA)

ODX
November 8th, 2010, 09:32 PM
If you want to be able to aim down the fucking sight at close range really fast and shoot someone, choose a bloody SMG.

If you want to snipe, aka LONG DISTANCES, then choose a fucking sniper and don't run around in close proximity to other players.

cheezdue
November 8th, 2010, 10:48 PM
If you want to be able to aim down the fucking sight at close range really fast and shoot someone, choose a bloody SMG.

If you want to snipe, aka LONG DISTANCES, then choose a fucking sniper and don't run around in close proximity to other players.

I don't think these little kids will understand that. But sure enough you made a good point.

Amit
November 8th, 2010, 11:33 PM
I hope there won't be a delay for sniper rifles equipped with ACOG sights. I didn't realize how fun it is to play with until I started using it on an M40 in COD4 a couple months ago.

Donut
November 9th, 2010, 12:11 AM
yeah acogs on snipers in cod4 was fricking amazing. dragunov acog with bandolier uav jammer and steady aim was one of my favorite setups. for some reason i found it alot easier to get headshots with acogs than i did with the normal sniper scope, but only with the m21 and dragunov. the bolt action rifles are a little harder to use imo.

my favorite map with that setup is bloc. nobody ever knows where you are due to UAV jammer, so you can look across the map and take people out of windows then move to a new location before people realize where you are. so much fun.

Amit
November 9th, 2010, 12:24 AM
yeah acogs on snipers in cod4 was fricking amazing. dragunov acog with bandolier uav jammer and steady aim was one of my favorite setups. for some reason i found it alot easier to get headshots with acogs than i did with the normal sniper scope, but only with the m21 and dragunov. the bolt action rifles are a little harder to use imo.

my favorite map with that setup is bloc. nobody ever knows where you are due to UAV jammer, so you can look across the map and take people out of windows then move to a new location before people realize where you are. so much fun.

I think I shall try that out. I installed COD4 on my laptop and have to lvl up to get some of those perks, though. I unlocked the Dragunov in MP just now. I went on an M40 ACOG rampage. It seems almost too easy to kill people with it. I wasn't even playing on a hardcore server and I was killing people with single shots using the ACOG. That never happened when I was using the regular scope.

annihilation
November 9th, 2010, 03:10 AM
I don't like what they did to the snipers. They must be trying to make the sniper more of a support role.
That doesn't work in CoD unless the maps are well suited for it.

E: This runs like horrid shit on PC.

p0lar_bear
November 9th, 2010, 07:55 AM
I don't like what they did to the snipers. They must be trying to make the sniper a support weapon.

Which is the role a sniper is supposed to play...

annihilation
November 9th, 2010, 08:55 AM
I guess if you're playing something like BFBC2.

=sw=warlord
November 9th, 2010, 09:02 AM
The sniper was always supposed to be a suppression weapon.
Call of duty is no different.
The idea of the long range snipers is so you can guard an area from a distance deterring any would be rambos from entering your view and to support your team as they captured objectives.

annihilation
November 9th, 2010, 09:09 AM
My veiws have been ruined by Quickscoping.

Rentafence
November 9th, 2010, 10:27 AM
I hate everyone and anyone that does that quick scoping bullshit, but the video spartan posted was just bullshit. those should have all been kills. Sniper rifle is just nerfed TOO much. the speed it takes to go in and out of the scope already seems to be a big enough hindrance to playing like a fag.

TeeKup
November 9th, 2010, 01:39 PM
I've determined the M14 is the best gun ever. I just went 25 and 7 against someone whose already level 35.

ICEE
November 9th, 2010, 02:08 PM
though im convinced the gameplay wont be impressive, I actually do want to see the animations.

paladin
November 9th, 2010, 02:17 PM
THIS GAME IS THE BEST

§partan 8
November 9th, 2010, 02:20 PM
So people that actully have it for pc is it worth to buy it still? Hows the graphics? Gameplay? stuff like that

Phobias
November 9th, 2010, 02:30 PM
Graphics are pretty good, on par with mw2. Gameplay feels like a clusterfuck on occassion and the enemy AI are dumb as fuck, but other than that.

Donut
November 9th, 2010, 04:42 PM
I went on an M40 ACOG rampage. It seems almost too easy to kill people with it. I wasn't even playing on a hardcore server and I was killing people with single shots using the ACOG. That never happened when I was using the regular scope.
its because the m40 receives a 5 point base damage boost when equipped with an acog scope. i dont know why the FUCK anybody thought that was a good idea, and i would wager nobody did since the m40 is the only gun that gets that benefit.
either way, the way the math works out, a shot pretty much anywhere with that 5 point boost will kill the guy youre shooting at. add stopping power and you can kill a player at full health with a foot shot.

on the topic of blackops, how is it so far? i mean im sure its going to take a little time for the novelty of the new stuff to wear off, but im interested to see opinions and comparisons to mw2 and cod4 in terms of gameplay, balance issues, and perks/attachments. im particularly curious to see how the new stuff in mp works out. did they finally figure out how to make a shotgun correctly?

Spartan094
November 9th, 2010, 06:54 PM
Wow, I finally like CoD again.

Warsaw
November 9th, 2010, 07:27 PM
Wow have times changed. Infinity Ward used to be the studio that made the good games and Treyarch made the terrible extensions, now IW makes a shitty first game and Treyarch makes its extension better than the base game.

Spartan094
November 9th, 2010, 07:44 PM
Other then the fact my xbox is breaking its self from the inside out and I can no longer play BO on my only xbox, Black Ops has made it on my favorite list of the top 3 games ever.

p0lar_bear
November 9th, 2010, 08:15 PM
THIS GAME IS THE BEST
Given you're not the type of person to pull this shit, I'd say give it a week until all of the overcompetitive profags find and abuse the fuck out of every glitch and nuance to break the game's design, flow, and pacing, leaving us with Modern Warfare 2.25.


My veiws have been ruined by Quickscoping.
I honestly hope you're not serious and just being ironic, posting from the point of view of every 12-year old that thinks Counter-Strike is the pinnacle of realism in warfare games.

You've got these games that're supposed to incorporate realism into a game, with things like aiming down sights, and human targets that are supposed to drop like flies when shot in the face. I'm well aware that total realism is damn near impossible, due to technical and physical limitations. But, consider this: if you ran into the fray with a bolt-action, high caliber sniping rifle and attempted to noscope headshot people in the real world, you'd be dead for being a colossal retard. If you attempted to quickscope, you'd probably end up driving the scope into your eye socket.

The whole point of sniping is to provide long-distance suppression. Anyone crying about a game that takes out elements that promote the use of snipers at close range (e.g. small interiors with no real long hallways) is simply retarded and should head back to Modern Warfare 2, Counter-Strike, or any "realism" shooter.

§partan 8
November 9th, 2010, 08:45 PM
So I quit my bitchin and bought the game and it isnt as bad as I thought it would be.

Limited
November 9th, 2010, 09:05 PM
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Oh snap..

I'm still undecided if I want to buy it, I'm really not interested in the MP side, so the full price just for SP is pretty steep. Also the fact I want to buy Fifa 11, and NBA Jam when it comes out, money is getting scarce!

Donut
November 9th, 2010, 09:57 PM
considering AC:brotherhood is coming out in like 7 days, im saving for that. ill give it 2 months, see what people are saying, and if blackops is really THAT great id have no problem trading mw2 in for what i hope would be a decent amount of credit toward it.

see what im really waiting for isnt so much the game breaking nuances (and im sure there will be plenty), but rather the 10th prestige hackers and the aimbots and wallhacks and whatever else.

TeeKup
November 10th, 2010, 12:14 AM
Game has already been out for a full day and my brother tells me some prick is already prestige. I smell a Jtag...or some loser with no life.

Donut
November 10th, 2010, 01:21 AM
i meant to ask this before, but that whole "monthy subscription fee to play" thing for blackops was just a made up load of shit, right? i mean for pc, not on 360 or psn.

Phobias
November 10th, 2010, 06:36 AM
Who'd have thought a CoD game could also be a mindfuck.

One of the top 5 games of the year for me.

Spartan094
November 10th, 2010, 07:05 AM
Game has already been out for a full day and my brother tells me some prick is already prestige. I smell a Jtag...or some loser with no life.
It's some loser with no life, trust me it's easy to rank up in this game.

E: yah I fixed my xboxs hippie problem with not working, I found it funny in training mode it pulls names from Xbox live to use on the bots, so funny.

p0lar_bear
November 10th, 2010, 08:28 AM
i meant to ask this before, but that whole "monthy subscription fee to play" thing for blackops was just a made up load of shit, right? i mean for pc, not on 360 or psn.


I read that as Kotick considering a Call of Duty MMORPFPS, which really, ain't too far from Modern Warfare 2's current design. Just throw in some character customizing, paperdolling, and scrap the main menu interface for an in-game hub, and you've got World of Duty/EverCoD.

Hell, Pooky and I were comparing MW2 and WoW's addictive features one night, and they're scarily similar...

It was a misinterpretation.

Rook
November 10th, 2010, 11:01 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0zVL8IRRvo

Kornman00
November 10th, 2010, 11:29 AM
Clearly that is all Steve Jobs' doing.

paladin
November 10th, 2010, 12:00 PM
OMG IM OUTRAGED

annihilation
November 10th, 2010, 12:13 PM
Fuck that. I'm not buying this game now.

cheezdue
November 10th, 2010, 12:20 PM
That is way to overpowered. Now people will be abusing the living hell out of this game now.

PlasbianX
November 10th, 2010, 12:27 PM
Anyone see Bungie's twitter? Treyarch sent Bungie a care package full of copies of Black Ops lolz

Kornman00
November 10th, 2010, 01:01 PM
It's a trap Bungie! They just did that so they could use those numbers towards how many copies were sold.

ThePlague
November 10th, 2010, 01:09 PM
I heard Black Ops was promoting Halo stuff at some of the midnight releases.

Rook
November 10th, 2010, 01:14 PM
Used a buddies account and the game is so annoying right now. Me and sfx try to find the same server on the list for like 30 minutes, finally realize they use some in game inviting system even though the game has steamworks and VAC, why the fuck would they do this.

Also being able to run BC2 on med-high settings with no lag and MW2 on high with good fps, this game lags and stutters like shit when set to even the lowest settings. Game even D/Cs me with connection interrupted on 3 different servers. Not interested unless they do some major patching.

annihilation
November 10th, 2010, 01:36 PM
I told you this game runs like shit on PC. :saddowns:

Yoko
November 10th, 2010, 02:17 PM
r_multithreaded_device command is auto set to 0, set it to 1 if you have a multi-core CPU

this helps with the lag by literal fuck tonnes in multiplayer

e:GOOD WORK ON PC VERSION TREYARCH, FOR I TOO LOVE THE RIGHT STICK SYMBOL IN MY NAME
http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/106630862-4.jpg

ICEE
November 10th, 2010, 04:09 PM
Guess that's what you get for having a weeaboo name.

Higuy
November 10th, 2010, 05:03 PM
Bought it... quite frankly was a little disappointed. Not many new gameplay things, just things changed from mw2, like weapons and kill streaks.

Warsaw
November 10th, 2010, 06:58 PM
r_multithreaded_device command is auto set to 0, set it to 1 if you have a multi-core CPU

this helps with the lag by literal fuck tonnes in multiplayer


I remotely figured that out for Pyong without having the game...I feel awesome.

p0lar_bear
November 10th, 2010, 08:00 PM
Bought it... quite frankly was a little disappointed. Not many new gameplay things, just things changed from mw2, like weapons and kill streaks.

The question is, how are the changes? I don't think anyone expected a whole new game, but do the changes address and fix gripes from MW2? For better or for worse?

Disaster
November 10th, 2010, 08:30 PM
The question is, how are the changes? I don't think anyone expected a whole new game, but do the changes address and fix gripes from MW2? For better or for worse?

Personally, I enjoy MW2 more than Black Ops. MW2 is just more fun in my opinion, even with all the profags in MW2.

The thing that pisses me off though is how nerfed the sniper rifles are. There really is no way to explain it, you would have to play it yourself to see.
They are out-gunned in every shape by assault rifles, even at long range.

Pyong Kawaguchi
November 10th, 2010, 08:50 PM
By the way, from my own knowledge, Mw2 for ps3 is now a disaster.
as anyone with a hacked ps3 can go online now.
:iamafag:

Amit
November 10th, 2010, 10:59 PM
Used a buddies account and the game is so annoying right now. Me and sfx try to find the same server on the list for like 30 minutes, finally realize they use some in game inviting system even though the game has steamworks and VAC, why the fuck would they do this.

Also being able to run BC2 on med-high settings with no lag and MW2 on high with good fps, this game lags and stutters like shit when set to even the lowest settings. Game even D/Cs me with connection interrupted on 3 different servers. Not interested unless they do some major patching.

I can now safely say that Treyarch games are badly optimized. World at War was a complete nightmare to run. Even with a 45FPS the animations looked like they were in slow motion. I almost preferred a slight stutter if I didn't have to see that. Black Ops I haven't experienced many slowdowns, but the FPS is definitely lower than it should be, especially with such an old graphics engine.

TeeKup
November 11th, 2010, 06:36 PM
I've been having fun in Search and Destroy. The CZ75 full auto is ridiculous, also the camera spike on more than one occasion has helped me stop some bomb plants; seriously love that thing.

Spartan094
November 11th, 2010, 09:03 PM
I'm still surprised how many people put Not Buying just because of MW2 or hate the CoD franchise, go rent the damn game first.

ODX
November 11th, 2010, 09:33 PM
We get it, the multiplayer is the 3rd fucking rehash of the same shit we've been playing already.

What do you guys think of the single player?

Futzy
November 11th, 2010, 09:35 PM
What do you guys think of the single player?
I'm not even thinking about torrenting it because it would be a waste of my unlimited bandwidth.

Yoko
November 11th, 2010, 09:45 PM
Treyarch actually made a decent story even though it took about 2 levels to get to the actual good story

It would be worth your bandwidth

t3h m00kz
November 11th, 2010, 10:02 PM
We get it, the multiplayer is the 3rd fucking rehash of the same shit we've been playing already.

yes, it's just a rehash with a few new features, modes and weapons. sort of like how Halo 3's multiplayer was a rehash of Halo 2 with a few new features, modes and (NERFED) weapons.

planning on picking this up soon. I'd prefer a physical copy, which is why I haven't downloaded it from steam just yet.

Amit
November 11th, 2010, 11:14 PM
Well, the multiplayer is much the same as MW2, but the story is quite different. I don't know how far through the campaign I am currently, but so far it has been an incoherent mess of flash backs. However, the interrogation sequences transitioning to the missions is quite interesting. I hope the plot for this game will be pulled together tighter than MW2 because when I finished MW2, I was left wondering why Shepard did the things he did. I had to google the answer and many others did the same. I don't want that to be the case with this game since it will be the first time Treyarch is actually making a fictional series of events based on an actual era of history. In Call of Duty 3 and World at War, all they had to do was create a game that followed real life events and create some fictional characters to go with it. That was all. That wasn't hard to do because you already know the exact outcome. Vietnam is probably the only definite thing to go on in Black Ops, but it is not supposed to be the center of the events that unfold. Vietnam just happens to be an area that the team chose to put key characters in to...make the game more varied and interesting, I guess?

Yoko
November 11th, 2010, 11:57 PM
Second to last level it comes together and you learn who the interrogator and Viktor Reznov are, plus the after story is good as heck too

And Nixon fighting zambees, Arooo

cheezdue
November 12th, 2010, 12:01 AM
I gotta the admit, the Bay of Pigs mission was pretty damn fun near the end.

Phobias
November 12th, 2010, 12:17 AM
The ending was a bit too; "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH" for me, great game though. Especially loved the vietnam maps and the tunnels.

ICEE
November 12th, 2010, 12:53 AM
Played this. It felt exactly like modern warfare 2, except there were even more ridiculous kill streaks that made the game feel random and hectic.

TF2 has elements that are literally random, and it still feels less random than this.

Amit
November 12th, 2010, 01:44 AM
The ending was a bit too; "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH" for me, great game though. Especially loved the vietnam maps and the tunnels.

That's the kind of vibe I've been getting so far.

t3h m00kz
November 12th, 2010, 04:15 AM
been playing it on hardened. the Vietnam level objective where you have to get to the barrels is pissing me off to no end.

also what the fuck is this steam required bullshit? I got the physical copy in hopes of being able to LAN but apparently you are REQUIRED to have it connected to your steam account. horse balls.

E: just beat it. definitely like the way they did the story, it was a new experience for the series. reminded me vaguely of the new Wolfenstein for whatever reason...

only real gripes I have is the still-broken-and-now-seemingly-worse hit detection and the optimization.

Pooky
November 12th, 2010, 12:44 PM
The question is, how are the changes? I don't think anyone expected a whole new game, but do the changes address and fix gripes from MW2? For better or for worse?
Been playing this for a little while now with Teekup, it's definitely better than MW2. A lot of the stuff that was incredibly gay in MW2, like Commando or One Man Army, is gone. Basically, Treyarch's balance changes read like a list of everything I ever hated in the CoD series being fixed. Even Stopping Power finally fucked right off. Weapons actually do consistent damage now!

It's still not perfect though. The spawning system is pretty atrocious for deathmatch, the hit detection is a bit wonky sometimes, you can still forehead shoot, and the knife is still fucking cheap as hell. The weapons have even LESS recoil than in MW2, the FAMAS and AK-74u are OP as shit, and the sniper rifles have been nerfed to the point of uselessness (unless you use the ACOG)

So yeah, if you're looking to get the flavor of the month multiplayer game that everyone's going to have, I'd say it's worth it.

iizahsum
November 12th, 2010, 05:24 PM
Happily playing Call of Duty 2.

ODX
November 12th, 2010, 05:50 PM
yes, it's just a rehash with a few new features, modes and weapons. sort of like how Halo 3's multiplayer was a rehash of Halo 2 with a few new features, modes and (NERFED) weapons.Uh, Halo 2 and 3 played completely different from each other, mainly in terms of the weapons being beautifully balanced in the latter. What makes me even more happy about this is the fact that there's new animations and nothing was reused, but hell if anyone but me and ICEE give 2 hoots over something so "inconspicuous."

iizahsum
November 12th, 2010, 06:49 PM
^ Did you expect a CoD game to not re use animations?

I miss the old Call of Duty style game play. I miss running through towns completing objectives as a normal solider, not Team America. I hate this whole idea of being stuck in one area smaller than Vatican city with a population of 30,000,000 people who all want you dead. Call of Duty 4 was fun. World at War had fun single-player. MW2 seemed like a 5 hour mash up of endless enemy spawns in tiny areas, and multi-player that went completely untested. Black ops has one of the most linear campaigns I think I have ever seen in my life, and the multi-player is fun sometimes, but player spawns and map designs really fail.

MXC
November 12th, 2010, 08:48 PM
So how are the mods?

Amit
November 13th, 2010, 12:11 AM
So how are the mods?

What mods?

jcap
November 13th, 2010, 01:33 AM
The ending was a bit too; "AMERICA, FUCK YEAH" for me, great game though.
Yeah, that was the only thing that felt incredibly cheesy.

This game is infinitely better than MW2. I really enjoyed the campaign. The new direction Treyarch took with telling their story was really nice. Instead of just being a mindless war game, it actually got you thinking. There really wasn't anything I can actually complain about with the campaign. Haven't played MP yet.

I still think Activision is a piece of shit though, charging you for dedicated servers. Fuck Activision fuck Activision fuck Activision.

Rook
November 13th, 2010, 01:36 AM
also what the fuck is this steam required bullshit? I got the physical copy in hopes of being able to LAN but apparently you are REQUIRED to have it connected to your steam account. horse balls.


Steam owns. Gaben owns.



I really enjoyed this game. There really wasn't anything I can actually complain about with the campaign. Haven't played MP yet. This game is infinitely better than MW2.
You say its infinitely better before playing the meat of the game, multiplayer. (this is my face)

TeeKup
November 13th, 2010, 01:56 AM
I've determined the L96A1 is god tier.

Amit
November 13th, 2010, 02:44 AM
I haven't played the multiplayer yet, but I just finished the campaign. God damn the ending was satisfying. I love all that brainwashing conspiracy shit. I won't say much since I don't want to spoil anything for anyone.

t3h m00kz
November 13th, 2010, 03:37 AM
Steam owns. Gaben owns.

I love the interface and the library but having games connected to my account so only I can play them seems dumb. I went out of my way to get the physical copy because I wanted to install it for my room mate in hopes of lanning, and now we can't

I may as well have bought it at the steam store

E:
Multiplayer would be cool if the game didn't run at a steady 20 frames at 1024x768 at the lowest settings, despite my graphics card being able to handle COD4 maxed out 1080p at 40-50 frames easilly

thehoodedsmack
November 13th, 2010, 09:44 AM
So they upped the Xbox Live and System Link party size from 1 to 2. Thanks, guys, now we only need eight copies of the game when LAN-ing.

I like how everything is unlocked when playing local. I had friends who would take a calendar year updating their classes after every match. I actually like this game better than MW2.

Pooky
November 13th, 2010, 03:47 PM
^ Did you expect a CoD game to not re use animations?

I miss the old Call of Duty style game play. I miss running through towns completing objectives as a normal solider, not Team America. I hate this whole idea of being stuck in one area smaller than Vatican city with a population of 30,000,000 people who all want you dead. Call of Duty 4 was fun. World at War had fun single-player. MW2 seemed like a 5 hour mash up of endless enemy spawns in tiny areas, and multi-player that went completely untested. Black ops has one of the most linear campaigns I think I have ever seen in my life, and the multi-player is fun sometimes, but player spawns and map designs really fail.

It's funny you would say that, since Call of Duty 4 had infinitely respawning enemies in virtually every encounter, while MW2 almost never did.

iizahsum
November 13th, 2010, 04:56 PM
It's funny you would say that, since Call of Duty 4 had infinitely respawning enemies in virtually every encounter, while MW2 almost never did.

MW2 had shit tons of enemies and rooms smaller than my kitchen, it was ridiculous. CoD4 had a shit ton of enemies in wide open spaces where it would make sense, or when you were guarding something or someone.

Spartan094
November 13th, 2010, 05:46 PM
I haven't played the multiplayer yet, but I just finished the campaign. God damn the ending was satisfying. I love all that brainwashing conspiracy shit. I won't say much since I don't want to spoil anything for anyone.

It still made me made mad when your guy, Dimtri, from WaW gets....wait I shouldn't go that far :allears:

Oh woops.

The campaign I have to say was pretty damn awesome. The MP on the other hand is more balanced out except for the minigun, it rapes people so easy when I have the Camera Spike guarding the only stair way. Rapey mookz would call it.

TeeKup
November 13th, 2010, 07:40 PM
I love that camera. THE best thing to use in Search and Destroy.

Ganon
November 13th, 2010, 08:50 PM
The campaign I have to say was pretty damn awesome. The MP on the other hand is more balanced out except for the minigun, it rapes people so easy when I have the Camera Spike guarding the only stair way. Rapey mookz would call it.

trolling gets you infracted here, you might want to be more subtle

TeeKup
November 13th, 2010, 08:54 PM
Your avatar has to be THE most awkward thing on this forum.

ICEE
November 13th, 2010, 08:58 PM
Your avatar has to be THE most awkward thing on this forum.

second only to his posts.

t3h m00kz
November 13th, 2010, 10:22 PM
Rapey mookz would call it.

beer and guns make me rapey

I really am hoping the framerate being so low was a fluke. I just ran anti-virus and got some infected files out of the way, my system seems to be running a tad better.

Higuy
November 13th, 2010, 10:48 PM
The sp sucked total dick, not sure if anyone else noticed that. protip : animated cutscenes isn't gameplay
the entire campaign was room after room of retarded, poorly made encounters, overpopulated with too many enemies. it could of been a decent campaign if there wasn't a shitload of enemies in every encounter.


mp is fucking awesome though, I've been playing it non stop lately.

hobojoe
November 13th, 2010, 11:04 PM
I really hated the gameplay cutscene combination, but loved the overall campaign

cheezdue
November 13th, 2010, 11:56 PM
So far I'm enjoying the single player campaign .I still haven't gotten the chance to get on Mp, cause of err...server problems.

t3h m00kz
November 14th, 2010, 06:00 AM
yep I can't play this game online. it runs too shitily on my comp.

damn shame, considering it doesn't look much more graphically advanced than MW1

Amit
November 14th, 2010, 06:07 PM
yep I can't play this game online. it runs too shitily on my comp.

damn shame, considering it doesn't look much more graphically advanced than MW1

Have you tried the various tweaks that have been posted on the internet? Personally, I didn't gain any more FPS by tweaking even by setting the Multi-CPU option to 1. I have an i7 and other people report huge improvements on their quad-core CPUs. Maybe it's because I have a mobile i7 CPU instead of a desktop one, I dunno.

Rook
November 15th, 2010, 12:10 AM
Damn I'm still playing MW2 & L4D2 what's happening in the world of Black Ops?? They claimed to fix the lag but it still runs bad especially considering the graphics are worse than MW2.

TeeKup
November 15th, 2010, 08:49 PM
I'm REALLY getting sick and tired of some fucking pussy quiting out at the VERY end of a match. Faggots that do this make it so the game doesn't show up on my Recent Games list so I can't save it. Just completed a round of S&D where the final kill was me shooting a claymore and some random enemy walking around the corner at the same time. Funniest thing I've seen today.

But guess what, I can't save it because some pansy ass pro fag had to rage quit.

Kornman00
November 15th, 2010, 11:06 PM
So COD has saved films now too? But just not as cool?

Amit
November 15th, 2010, 11:55 PM
So COD has saved films now too? But just not as cool?

Apparently it's very cool. I haven't tried it out yet.

paladin
November 16th, 2010, 12:37 AM
Does it save recent film even after i turn my box off? I got two tactical knife snipes on Radar hat were 2 in a million

Rentafence
November 16th, 2010, 01:05 AM
It keeps the last 15 games in a recent games list.

And sir Kornmann, rendering out clips will automatically upload them to youtube under a Treyarch account.

paladin
November 16th, 2010, 01:51 AM
SWEET

=sw=warlord
November 16th, 2010, 07:40 AM
So COD has saved films now too? But just not as cool?

From what some people have been telling me, it's practically the same as in Halo 3.

Pooky
November 16th, 2010, 10:22 AM
Not quite as good as in Halo 3. There aren't any elevation controls for the free cam which makes flying around a bit awkward, and you have to spend about 45 seconds downloading a recent game before you can save it.

t3h m00kz
November 16th, 2010, 07:12 PM
So COD has saved films now too? But just not as cool?

COD has had saved films since at least COD2, not sure if COD1 had them... just not on the consoles.

Spartan094
November 17th, 2010, 08:31 PM
Wow this is useful. I got some screenshots yay.

Amit
November 17th, 2010, 11:07 PM
COD has had saved films since at least COD2, not sure if COD1 had them... just not on the consoles.

You have to use the console to record the video and then convert it to another format to edit it. It's hard to compare it to the saved films feature seen in Halo 3/Reach or Black Ops.

t3h m00kz
November 18th, 2010, 07:03 AM
Point still stands, the games did have playback, inferior as they may have been.

There are third-party applications that made playbacks much more flexible. Not official, but hey.

Kornman00
November 18th, 2010, 08:07 AM
And Bungie had saved films way back in Marathon, so what.

Let me rephrase the question


So COD has saved films now too, like those seen in Halo? But just not as cool as Halo's system?
Which Pooky answered.

Amit
November 18th, 2010, 01:46 PM
Point still stands, the games did have playback, inferior as they may have been.

There are third-party applications that made playbacks much more flexible. Not official, but hey.

I generally agree, but it is still a small hassle. Also, I read about people using the console with FRAPS to record. I don't understand how that works. Does COD4 override the record options for FRAPS? Apparently this is supposed to give you better performance while playing.

Spartan094
November 18th, 2010, 08:48 PM
Btw you can only do 30 seconds a clip, might as well have a HD capture card.

E: Ew only 360p video, the fuck. And this is only a test video.
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Spartan094
November 25th, 2010, 06:36 PM
Man what a pitty, the .wav files are encrypted or so people say for black ops, dammit dammit, help korn :smugdog:

MXC
December 2nd, 2010, 08:55 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEbXnPqdaXM&feature=player_embedded

Now how about them tools?

Pooky
December 2nd, 2010, 12:10 PM
Been playing Cod 4 lately both alone and with friends, and I gotta say it's way more fun than Blackops. Cod 4 had its flaws, the M16 RDS and M40 ACOG being foremost among them, but it's still a much better multiplayer game than any of its successors.

=sw=warlord
December 20th, 2010, 02:20 PM
I'l just this this here. (http://kotaku.com/5715089/black-ops-first-downloadable-content-is-oscar-mike)

Spartan094
December 20th, 2010, 07:59 PM
$15 bucks? Really? Meh I should gather enough MS points thanks to the rewards thing to buy it by then so I'm not wasting any of my money.

Spartan094
December 25th, 2010, 11:52 AM
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Enjoy.