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Sasc
July 27th, 2010, 04:20 AM
So I was just looking through HBO's forum, when I found This (http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=997850), which then links to Here (http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=46755796#46763276)


Yes, that was me in the podcast, and in fact we were discussing details at the office today. We should have the final feature ready for use in about a month.

We're dealing with the keygen problem as best we can. For starters, I pulled a list of keys that had actually been used as of a month or two ago, and we'll probably validate against that list. So people won;t be able to just get the keygen now and claim the... reward. (i.e., people who didn't even bother to pirate the game :-) It also means that buying one of the few remaining copies at retail won't help you anymore.

So yeah, we're on it. Start spreading the word on other sites that Halo PC users should check here a couple weeks before Reach launches for details on what to do with the key.

So it looks like the reward will be something to do with Reach. I can't really understand why we need our Halo PC keys for it though.

Guardian
July 27th, 2010, 05:06 AM
If this was a dream, it would be something like a discount on "Halo Reach PC".

But its not a dream, so... well have to wait and see I suppose.

Futzy
July 27th, 2010, 05:12 AM
So it looks like the reward will be something to do with Reach. I can't really understand why we need our Halo PC keys for it though.
You obviously need it to prove you own the game and can use it to redeem something. I hope its something better than a helmet.

Kornman00
July 27th, 2010, 06:18 AM
Wait, so keys used from Halo PC's inception until a month or two ago, or just used about a month or two ago? I have two keys and I've only used one as recently as this or late last month. The other...I'm not even sure if I've used it yet :s

Didn't know there was a real keygen for Halo PC...unless it just spits out a cycled list. Fucking pirates. Fuck them and fuck v1.00 CE.

e:
What if I still have my original copy of it for the Xbox? I never legally got the PC version
fucking /b/.netters

CrAsHOvErRide
July 27th, 2010, 06:33 AM
Didn't know either that a real keygen besides that cycle crap one existed. Though I always wondered why no one made one :P

Darqeness
July 27th, 2010, 06:53 AM
I am intrigued, very intrigued. I wonder why they would bother promoting HPC, even when Bungie really didn't have a whole lot to do with the port and neither Bungie, Microsoft or Gearbox would be making a profit from promoting it now.

Unless it's Bungie's way of apologizing for PC players getting the short end of the stick for all these years.

ejburke
July 27th, 2010, 07:28 AM
I think it's sheer benevolence, rather than promotion. From 2005 and on, the patches we've gotten were out of the kindness of a single Bungie employee and that same employee probably suggested this as a cool way to reward a community that's been left in the cold.

I mean, they never even acknowledged H2V's release. They know how bad we've had it.

Arteen
July 27th, 2010, 08:00 AM
I am intrigued, very intrigued. I wonder why they would bother promoting HPC, even when Bungie really didn't have a whole lot to do with the port
Not quite true (http://gbxforums.gearboxsoftware.com/showthread.php?t=23429)*. "For the last several months, the Bungie and Microsoft guys were in it just as deep as the Gearbox guys were - writing code, prioritizing tasks, etc. It was a group effort and it was pretty hard-core, non-stop - even bonding, if you can call it that."

I'm excited to hear that this CD key thing is still in. Bungie brought it up months ago, that we should save our CD keys, but hasn't said anything on it until just now. I still have mine safe.

*Oh yes, it's that thread

Bossniak
July 27th, 2010, 09:26 AM
Awesome. Thank god I wrote my CD key on a piece of paper and put it inside my halo case because I was stupid and took off the yellow sticker with the CD key from the slip and lost it.

Syuusuke
July 27th, 2010, 09:43 AM
What can we do with the key before Reach's launch? WHen does Reach come out anyway?

Probably something to type in the site and we get something if we play Reach? It's "a final feature to claim a reward". I remember we had a debate on what "feature" could mean =(

Arteen
July 27th, 2010, 09:49 AM
It's probably in-line with the bonuses for playing Halo 2, which Bungie has also been quiet about.

Kornman00
July 27th, 2010, 09:49 AM
Maybe we'll get a free year subscription of Bungie Pro?

wonder if I can then wait a year then enter in my second key :o

FireDragon04
July 27th, 2010, 09:59 AM
My guess would be the Mark V helmet as it wasn't on the armoury picture on Bungie's weekly update, so i guess the master chief variants of the helmets are available through 'other ways'.

I've always held on to my Halo PC retail copy it's up there with my Halo for Xbox. This is a very interesting thing Bungie are doing though - i guess we'll know more in September.

e: I take that back, i bet all the previous Spartan helmet variations (or at least alot of them) will be unlockable through completing different difficulties on single player and firefight stuff, similar to how you unlocked more helmets in Halo 3, but maybe they only unlock for purchase. And the ones shown in the BWU armoury picture are just those available to purchase with credits as soon as you put the disc in. - so i have no idea what the PC Key would unlock...

sevlag
July 27th, 2010, 10:17 AM
i have two CD keys so i guess i could give away the second one if its a helmet or keep both if its jsut bungie pro

Rentafence
July 27th, 2010, 10:19 AM
I haven't even played in the past two months fuck that noise

English Mobster
July 27th, 2010, 11:13 AM
I think Sawnose took a look at EVERY key that's been used up to 2 months ago and is invalidating the ones that have been used hundreds of times.

I know I bought 2 copies of PC, but I lost one of my cases. Just found the other, so I'm good there.

Limited
July 27th, 2010, 11:16 AM
I hope its something exclusive, so if its a helmet its a very rare one people cant purchase from the game. Still rocking my retail copy, I'm pretty surprised at the condition I've been able to keep it all in, considering its from 2003 it looks immaculate.

Rentafence
July 27th, 2010, 11:32 AM
I think Sawnose took a look at EVERY key that's been used up to 2 months ago and is invalidating the ones that have been used hundreds of times.


For starters, I pulled a list of keys that had actually been used as of a month or two ago, and we'll probably validate against that list.

Sounds like if you haven't played at all during May or June, you're out of luck.

sdavis117
July 27th, 2010, 11:44 AM
Sounds like if you haven't played at all during May or June, you're out of luck.

I think I might have played a game of Custom Edition in May (maybe). I hope that still counts.

Rentafence
July 27th, 2010, 11:54 AM
I think I might have played a game of Custom Edition in May (maybe). I hope that still counts.

The last time I played was June last year when I was making some shizz for ce.
:saddowns:

jcap
July 27th, 2010, 12:09 PM
I think what he meant is that all keys used UP TO a month or two ago are good. Playing a game now won't help get on that list.

Botolf
July 27th, 2010, 12:44 PM
I think I'm eligible, I've owned this copy of PC for a couple of years and installed/uninstalled it a few times. I can has goodies? :-3

Dwood
July 27th, 2010, 12:44 PM
Let us import custom content into our maps!!! *crosses fingers*

Hey, I can dream can't I?

=sw=warlord
July 27th, 2010, 01:08 PM
Apparently it's a visual flair, which is exactly what bungies been calling all these exclusive armours.
Halo 1 MkV armour?:ohboy:

jcap
July 27th, 2010, 01:12 PM
Apparently it's a visual flair, which is exactly what bungies been calling all these exclusive armours.
Halo 1 MkV armour?:ohboy:
Now that you mention it, that does ring a bell. Where else did they actually refer to armor as a piece of "visual flair?" I know with Halo 2 Xbox, they said a piece of visual flair would be awarded to those playing the game on its last day, but they never said what.

=sw=warlord
July 27th, 2010, 01:19 PM
Now that you mention it, that does ring a bell. Where else did they actually refer to armor as a piece of "visual flair?" I know with Halo 2 Xbox, they said a piece of visual flair would be awarded to those playing the game on its last day, but they never said what.

I'm just paraphrasing here but:
"Pre-order halo;reach limited edition and get some exclusive elite visual flair and for those who want more, get the legendary for some flaming flair."
I can't remember the exact words they used, it was in a update long ago but like you said, their doing something for halo 2 players as well so it cant just be a sign next to your name.

jcap
July 27th, 2010, 04:41 PM
It's confirmed that if you played any time before the last two months, you are safe:

http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=997935

Bossniak
July 27th, 2010, 04:47 PM
I played Halo PC maybe once or twice before Custom Edition was released. Hopefully they tracked down my CD key from waaaay back. Unless it doesn't matter if you played either PC or CE.

Amit
July 27th, 2010, 04:51 PM
I played Halo PC maybe once or twice before Custom Edition was released. Hopefully they tracked down my CD key from waaaay back. Unless it doesn't matter if you played either PC or CE.

When they say CE, they really mean Combat Evolved. So you're good if you played even before Custom Edition was released.

Dwood
July 27th, 2010, 05:00 PM
I don't even know if i've ever played PC online... I've just been a CE player

jcap
July 27th, 2010, 05:07 PM
I don't think it matters if you played Halo PC or CE.

It's the same Gamespy authentication system, just different game versions.

Syuusuke
July 27th, 2010, 05:40 PM
Haha what about Halo Mac players...

sdavis117
July 27th, 2010, 06:15 PM
Haha what about Halo Mac players...

What about them?

Syuusuke
July 27th, 2010, 06:26 PM
I was just addressing the topic from HBO

Donut
July 27th, 2010, 08:30 PM
so if theyre only checking halo pc and not ce for recent players, do you think i could get away with taking a picture of myself holding my key with the original box and send it to bungie? i think i might have played pc once or twice in total, but i played ce a whole lot last year.

sevlag
July 27th, 2010, 08:34 PM
so if we played custom ed we're safe thank god for tinkering with maps ealier this srping and everything else such as MPG3 testing

supersniper
July 27th, 2010, 09:06 PM
So i've played like once in the last few months :/ i hope my key works...

but i bet it has somethign to do with special armor or something.

sdavis117
July 27th, 2010, 09:13 PM
They are probably just collecting the keys so they can make their own keygen for the office.

Syuusuke
July 27th, 2010, 09:45 PM
Input your key backwards for a Halo Reach PC trial beta rev1 build 777.

Kornman00
July 28th, 2010, 01:55 AM
The key gets you a map pack of all the old Halo PC maps (http://tinyurl.com/sbaz5) upgraded for Halo Reach.

English Mobster
July 28th, 2010, 02:40 AM
Don't do that to me, Korn. =[

TeeKup
July 28th, 2010, 03:17 AM
DON'T DO THAT.

Kornman00
July 28th, 2010, 04:47 AM
lmao, oh come on, you don't like HALOS IN SPACE?? Fuck, it's so bad it's funny :lmao:

Hunter
July 28th, 2010, 07:11 AM
Note from Sawnose:
Whoa, people! My PM box just exploded after replying below. I can't field questions on an individual basis, and there are getting to be too many posts in this thread for me to read everything. The answer: wait and see. And don't try and buy it now, because the list of valid keys was locked in May to those already used, to prevent us from being overrun by keygenners. A few more weeks of patience, and we'll start validating keys, PC and Mac. The reward is a small visual thing in-game, similar to what we promised for Halo 2 players. Please self-police this thread by pointing people to the main answer: wait and see.
Oh wow, I can have a floating image above my head :O This is BEST reward EVER!! :raise:

=sw=warlord
July 28th, 2010, 07:40 AM
Oh wow, I can have a floating image above my head :O This is BEST reward EVER!! :raise:

Well that would be awkward.
I would have both the halo Pc symbol and the Halo 2 symbol, wouldn't that clutter the screen up?

Kornman00
July 28th, 2010, 08:06 AM
* Something is better than nothing. At least they're acknowledging the player base that still exists in both game worlds (or did, in H2X's case). This is their last game in the Halo universe, it's just their way of paying homage.

ejburke
July 28th, 2010, 08:30 AM
Unless it's a trap.

English Mobster
July 28th, 2010, 09:10 AM
Yes, that was me in the podcast, and in fact we were discussing details at the office today. We should have the final feature ready for use in about a month.

We're dealing with the keygen problem as best we can. For starters, I pulled a list of keys that had actually been used as of a month or two ago, and we'll probably validate against that list. So people won't be able to just get the keygen now and claim the... reward. (i.e., people who didn't even bother to pirate the game :-) It also means that buying one of the few remaining copies at retail won't help you anymore.

So yeah, we're on it. Start spreading the word on other sites that Halo PC users should check here a couple weeks before Reach launches for details on what to do with the key.

edit - see my addendum at the end of the OP

edit -

To clarify, OLD keys work. If you ever used your key (technically, to enter the multiplayer game lobby, since that's what validates the key) at any time from 2003 until a couple months ago (May?), you should be ok. We won't be allowing NEW keys, because we'll assume they were keygenned.

"Halo 1 for Mac" users are included in this.

"Halo 2 for PC" is NOT included since Bungie wasn't involved in that port.

edit -

The reward is a small "visual flair", as was described during the last days of Halo 2 for players of that game. Not armor or anything in the Armory. We realize that some people have lost their keys or never played online to validate their key, and unfortunately we can't do anything about that. If that's you, you're not missing out on something like Recon or Flames, it's just a little indication that people have been part of a certain Halo community for a while, and we wanted to give them a nod.

As others have noted, we have no way of telling if you've played the Xbox version, so that isn't included here.

edit -

Yes, you can continue to play the game without invalidating your key.
Well then.
E: If he's saying Halo for Mac, I'm assuming Custom Edition is in as well. I know I don't have much to worry about, as I played Halo PC once or twice (mostly with buddies, never of my own accord), but Custom Edition should be fine, too.

sevlag
July 28th, 2010, 09:15 AM
its the green triangle above our heads...it has come back to us T.T

thehoodedsmack
July 28th, 2010, 09:24 AM
^ That'd be pretty cool, actually.

Kornman00
July 28th, 2010, 09:28 AM
its the green triangle above our heads...it has come back to us T.T
Well, I'd rather have that greenie over my head than Recon helmet 2.0. Think of how many people in Mac/PC/CE who still actually have their freaking original cd keys from 2003 up until May and have also used them to go online. Now consider how many will be getting Reach and how many will actually know that the key will do them anything special.

I think in the expanse that will be Reach's online user base, the people who not only have this new flair but also use it will be really small. It won't turn into another Recon either because it wouldn't make sense for Bungie to just start handing it out as awards when it is specifically for H1PC players.

They're flooding the market with tons of unique visual flairs, each of which can only be obtained from one specific source. It should lessen the blow people saw with the Recon craze as we go into Reach. Of course, you'll always have whiny little fucks saying "gimme <X>" when the signs clearly said you had to buy <A> in order to get <X>.

English Mobster
July 28th, 2010, 10:12 AM
See, I'm probably not going to use 90% of my special goodies.
I may use my flaming helmet, my GameStop grenade belt, my green triangle, and (if it doesn't override the greenie) my special "You played Halo 2 on the last day!" flair.
Other than that, I'm just going to go with what looks cool. Right now, I'm leaning towards that Stormtrooper-ish looking helmet. And Sargent Stacker in Firefight. Hell yes.

sdavis117
July 28th, 2010, 11:27 AM
I played both Halo PC and Halo 2 Xbox. I have EVERYTHING.

cheezdue
July 28th, 2010, 10:41 PM
I think I might just get Reach for this little reward.

paladin
July 28th, 2010, 11:16 PM
It makes it so when you get hit, there is a loud DING like in HPC.

Snowy
July 28th, 2010, 11:23 PM
What's a "visual flair"?

Dwood
July 28th, 2010, 11:32 PM
What's a "visual flair"?

Recon.

Hotrod
July 29th, 2010, 12:03 AM
It makes it so when you get hit, there is a loud DING like in HPC.
Man, that would be too awesome...I really miss that from Halo PC, and if they had that as an option for Reach, then life would be amazing.

FRain
July 29th, 2010, 12:33 AM
Recon.

No.



The reward is a small "visual flair", as was described during the last days of Halo 2 for players of that game. Not armor or anything in the Armory. We realize that some people have lost their keys or never played online to validate their key, and unfortunately we can't do anything about that. If that's you, you're not missing out on something like Recon or Flames, it's just a little indication that people have been part of a certain Halo community for a while, and we wanted to give them a nod.


http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=46755796&postRepeater1-p=1#46763276

So it's not Recon or anything armor-related, you can stop whining now..

sorry if i come off as an asshole im really damn tired atm

TeeKup
July 29th, 2010, 03:44 AM
I wouldn't mind a green triangle at all. I would feel a bit....of uniqueness about it.

Pooky
July 29th, 2010, 03:53 AM
Well,

http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/406/drawnexbawks.png

The cool part about being a HPC veteran isn't playing the game, it's showing everyone on Halo: Reach that I did.





Okay, I'm sorry. I just couldn't resist.

Limited
July 29th, 2010, 03:07 PM
Oh yeah forgot about Halo 2 on last day, I have that too :O. I'm probably gonna only get regular Reach, so maybe I can blag a pre-order special thing.

No confirmation yet about Halo 2 last day and Halo 1 goodies?

Rentafence
July 29th, 2010, 03:18 PM
I'm calling it right now, it's gonna be something akin to the septagon symbol on the player bar in lobbies.

Futzy
July 29th, 2010, 03:48 PM
I'm calling it right now, it's gonna be something akin to the septagon symbol on the player bar in lobbies.
Thats what i was thinking.

Snowy
July 29th, 2010, 04:58 PM
So if I don't buy reach, I won't get anything for being a long time halo pc player?

Dumb.

Oh well.

Delta4907
July 29th, 2010, 06:29 PM
The Halo 2 flair is if you ever played it at all, not just if you played it on the last day.

Boba
July 29th, 2010, 07:17 PM
so if you stay with a community for nearly 10 years, you get a picture by your name in the newest, shittiest iteration of the game

HEH WOAH BUNGIE DON'T BE TOO GREATFUL

Rentafence
July 29th, 2010, 07:32 PM
so if you stay with a community for nearly 10 years, you get a picture by your name in the newest, shittiest iteration of the game

HEH WOAH BUNGIE DON'T BE TOO GREATFUL

As if they owe you anything. A stupid picture is better than nothing.

Kornman00
July 29th, 2010, 07:45 PM
so if you stay with a community for nearly 10 years, you get a picture by your name in the newest, shittiest iteration of the game

HEH WOAH BUNGIE DON'T BE TOO GREATFUL
Irony machine indeed. Ungrateful bastard.

ThePlague
July 29th, 2010, 08:25 PM
The Halo 2 flair is if you ever played it at all, not just if you played it on the last day.
Is this true? Because I played it a year before the last day or something, and I have the PC version. I literally own every halo game on Xbox/PC

Futzy
July 29th, 2010, 08:29 PM
They'll probably clarify and or reveal the H2 thing when they announce the H1 one
Did they say a few weeks from now or a few weeks before reach

Teltaur
July 29th, 2010, 08:42 PM
Is this true? Because I played it a year before the last day or something, and I have the PC version. I literally own every halo game on Xbox/PC

Yeah, I've seen it said by multiple employees, and that although it wasn't final at the time, they said the reward would most likely be an in-menu icon like the Halo 3 septagon for being a Bungie.net member.


Did they say a few weeks from now or a few weeks before reach

The second one.

Heathen
July 29th, 2010, 08:45 PM
So any word on what the reward is?

Futzy
July 29th, 2010, 08:47 PM
they said the reward would most likely be an in-menu icon like the Halo 3 septagon for being a Bungie.net member.
Yes, I remember them saying this. They also said the H1 thing would be similar to the H2 one, so its probably an icon too

Kornman00
July 29th, 2010, 09:43 PM
Is this true? Because I played it a year before the last day or something, and I have the PC version. I literally own every halo game on Xbox/PC
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=25583

You don't need to find us and make us dead to win some free stuff. We'll have Halo: Reach flair for anyone who plays and plenty of other prizes on offer for anyone that achieves one of many super secret metrics we're not disclosing. Just play. That's all we ask.

Also, I literally own every Halo engine based game for every platform :ohboy:

ejburke
July 29th, 2010, 09:52 PM
How's the Mac version of Stubbs the Zombie treating you?

=sw=warlord
July 29th, 2010, 09:55 PM
http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=news&cid=25583


Also, I literally own every Halo engine based game for every platform :ohboy:

Stubs the zombie?

Hotrod
July 29th, 2010, 10:23 PM
They'll probably clarify and or reveal the H2 thing when they announce the H1 one
Did they say a few weeks from now or a few weeks before reach
In the end, it's the same thing, is it not? We have a bit more than a month before the game ships, so yeah...

staticchanger
July 29th, 2010, 10:33 PM
Stubs the zombie?

wierd zombie game that used the halo engine

Kornman00
July 29th, 2010, 11:03 PM
How's the Mac version of Stubbs the Zombie treating you?
I tried running it on a PPC based Mac a while back...wasn't good enough for the game. Haven't tried it on my Intel book yet. The PC version also had very little support for hardware configurations. To top it off, the mother fucking publisher's bullshit protection also locks you from using the game if you don't fit the requirements to the letter. You can't even fucking say "ok, but play the game anyway". If this wasn't an issue, I would have been messing with the game for Yelo too (since it still had the networking/multiplayer code from H1X era in it). I enjoyed the Xbox game though.

Stubs the zombie?
Stubbs*

There's also a game that was prototyped with the engine for the Xbox many, many moons ago (but didn't use it for release).

Arteen
July 29th, 2010, 11:33 PM
There's also a game that was prototyped with the engine for the Xbox many, many moons ago (but didn't use it for release).
Shadowrun, I think?

Cagerrin
July 29th, 2010, 11:38 PM
Shadowrun, I think?
Yep, at least according to wikipedia.

Kornman00
July 29th, 2010, 11:56 PM
Shadowrun, I think?
yeppers


Is it true you guys did some prototyping with the Halo engine? How did that aid the development process?

Derek – Yes, we built a gameplay prototype in the Halo engine while we were developing our own custom engine for Shadowrun (codename: Badger). This allowed a small team of programmers, artists, and designers to quickly iterate on new ideas while building off stuff that just plain worked already in Halo, without having to wait for major features to roll into the Badger engine. This also gave us confidence to say, "Yes, Teleport is going to rule, so go ahead and spend the time to do it right for the final game." Nothing beats playing the game (even an ugly prototype) to let you know what is awesome and what should be cut.


Wasn't sure if it was public knowledge or not but since it is..."Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop smokin'!"

AAA
July 30th, 2010, 01:18 AM
I won't play another Halo until they make something for PC again. Sadly enough, we all know how that one will turn out.

ODX
July 30th, 2010, 02:07 PM
The fact that us, being obvious PC players, getting to use our CD-Key for Reach, currently an 'exclusive' 360 title...leads me to believe it probably won't ever be on PC since it's likely a lot of people will (if they haven't already, like me ._.) now buy a 360 and finally move on from the first Halo to the last Halo. The jump isn't exactly frightening either, Reach is probably more like Halo 1 than Halo 2 and 3 were.

Can always look forward to Bungie's next game, which will (or better be) on PC since...you know, they're done with Halo and now are signed for 10 years with Activision. (Erk, let's not get into that)

Kornman00
July 30th, 2010, 08:30 PM
Can always look forward to Bungie's next game, which will (or better be) on PC since...you know, they're done with Halo and now are signed for 10 years with Activision. (Erk, let's not get into that)
Next game will be for PC, Xbox 360 and PS3

Only their next game is signed to be published with Activision for the next decade. Any other games they come out with on the side can be done with anyone else (including MS). AV only has publishing rights over their next semi-known about game. Bungie isn't going to let another MS happen to their studio or game franchise. They learned how not to make games after Halo 2, and they learned how not to get a publisher after being bought by MS. It may have had its perks, but they don't own the Halo franchise now.


Reach could easily get ported to the PC later on...but Bungie won't be the ones doing it, so looking at what they're doing shouldn't be what's leading you to jump to conclusions.

t3h m00kz
July 31st, 2010, 12:37 PM
Shadowrun, I think?

wow. talk about a fun fact.

I always thought that game had a bit of a Halo feel to it.

staticchanger
July 31st, 2010, 05:38 PM
wow. talk about a fun fact.

I always thought that game had a bit of a Halo feel to it.

Always wanted a shadowrun style teleport in Halo. I always thought it would be a pretty sweet (if used and placed sparsely) armor ability in Reach.


Is it true you guys did some prototyping with the Halo engine? How did that aid the development process?

Derek – Yes, we built a gameplay prototype in the Halo engine while we were developing our own custom engine for Shadowrun (codename: Badger). This allowed a small team of programmers, artists, and designers to quickly iterate on new ideas while building off stuff that just plain worked already in Halo, without having to wait for major features to roll into the Badger engine. This also gave us confidence to say, "Yes, Teleport is going to rule, so go ahead and spend the time to do it right for the final game." Nothing beats playing the game (even an ugly prototype) to let you know what is awesome and what should be cut.


How'd they get teleport to work in the halo engine? Seems a little outside of the engine's boundaries, but then again I'm no coding scholar :eng101:. Would they have been allowed to use a more (open?) version of the engine to allow for modifications, or did they have basically the same toolset we have?

sevlag
July 31st, 2010, 08:27 PM
still hopin for that little green triangle..show every 12 year old what a real halo game was and should be like

n00b1n8R
July 31st, 2010, 08:31 PM
How'd they get teleport to work in the halo engine? Seems a little outside of the engine's boundaries, but then again I'm no coding scholar :eng101:. Would they have been allowed to use a more (open?) version of the engine to allow for modifications, or did they have basically the same toolset we have?
Patrick made a working "portal" gun for HCE with an external app if that helps. Not sure how teleport worked in shadowrun but so it may be completely different.

Arteen
July 31st, 2010, 08:59 PM
FASA probably just asked for the engine, since they were owned by Microsoft.

wow. talk about a fun fact.

I always thought that game had a bit of a Halo feel to it.
And now Reach will have a Shadowrun feel to it, what with Sage Merill on the team!

Apparently there was a bit of back-and-forth going on with FASA and Bungie.

"Shadowrun’s dev team included a Halo alum, who was that and what did he bring to the party?
John – We have a couple actually. I was design lead for Halo (one) and Shadowrun and Bart House worked on the networking for Halo 2 and Shadowrun. We’ve also traded other arts and smarts over the past couple of years including Dorje Bellbrook who did concept art for Shadowrun and is now working on Halo 3."

t3h m00kz
July 31st, 2010, 09:40 PM
What, so Sage was some guy on Shadowrun? I don't know these things.. if that's the case that's pretty awesome.

staticchanger
July 31st, 2010, 10:34 PM
Patrick made a working "portal" gun for HCE with an external app if that helps. Not sure how teleport worked in shadowrun but so it may be completely difference.


That sounds interesting..... Never herd of it though; did he release it somewhere? I've been looking into doing some memory hacking I may try to do a shadowrun style teleporter app. It would basically need to get current position and current looking direction and derive a new position value and teleport the player to it. I have no idea what really is possible with memory hacking so instead of sitting here babbling like a noob I'm going to read Patrick's tutorial a start fooling around with some stuff.

Syuusuke
July 31st, 2010, 11:24 PM
He released a beta (or alpha or pre-alpha, whatever) awhile back that worked in a map called Chiller. I had it in my old drive before it went gonzo.

Kornman00
August 1st, 2010, 12:47 AM
How'd they get teleport to work in the halo engine? Seems a little outside of the engine's boundaries, but then again I'm no coding scholar :eng101:. Would they have been allowed to use a more (open?) version of the engine to allow for modifications, or did they have basically the same toolset we have?
They had full access to the code.

It's funny because one of the utilities in the prototype is a hologram. Expect, it also shoots enemies and runs around (so not just running a straight line) :allears:. The teleporter worked by pressing the button you had it mapped to and it would warp you about 5 feet or something (along with playing all the teleporter effects/sounds). You could remap all the buttons (so you could make the left trigger your weapon's trigger, etc). Was a pretty cool prototype, they really had fun with it. A few game breaking bugs though, but what do you expect?

ejburke
August 1st, 2010, 07:45 AM
It's a shame they couldn't figure out a way to reward the community that was playing Halo way back in the days of the Atari 2600 (http://www.codemystics.com/halo2600/). If anyone deserves "Flair" (Woooo!), it be they.

n00b1n8R
August 1st, 2010, 09:20 PM
That sounds interesting..... Never herd of it though; did he release it somewhere? I've been looking into doing some memory hacking I may try to do a shadowrun style teleporter app. It would basically need to get current position and current looking direction and derive a new position value and teleport the player to it. I have no idea what really is possible with memory hacking so instead of sitting here babbling like a noob I'm going to read Patrick's tutorial a start fooling around with some stuff.
Just search around the HCE/release section (or look through patrick's created threads- that'd probably be faster).
There was a public working release a year or two back.

staticchanger
August 2nd, 2010, 12:26 AM
I did, and all links seem to be dead. )-:

No worries though I'm already relearning VB.net and am about to fun making my own stuff.

I found it!! The link wasn't dead. There was just a mistakenly appended l at the end of the url. Here is the chiller portal map (http://www.vivid-abstractions.net/downloads/PortalStuff/portal_chiller.rar) if anyone has had revived interest.

ThePlague
August 2nd, 2010, 01:28 AM
You need the app too.

Limited
August 2nd, 2010, 11:31 AM
Patrick Locke made a working "portal" gun for HCE with an external app if that helps. Not sure how teleport worked in shadowrun but so it may be completely difference.
Teleporting, is crazy easy. You just change the players position, then do some fancy effects (white screen) to cover up and make it look awesomer.

staticchanger
August 2nd, 2010, 11:43 AM
You wouldn't happen to have any sample code? I get changing simple values like ammo count, grenades, amount of deaths. However I don't understand how to get information like player position. I've been using Patrick's tutorial and my limited knowledge of VB.net. I hope to catch on pretty quickly as I've always had Ideas that I've wanted to see. Shadowrun style teleporting being one of them, even though it'd just work in campaign or selfhosted games.

Futzy
August 2nd, 2010, 12:05 PM
Thread: Halo PC's key with Reach (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?22057-Halo-PC-s-key-with-Reach&p=551469)

Limited
August 2nd, 2010, 12:17 PM
You wouldn't happen to have any sample code? I get changing simple values like ammo count, grenades, amount of deaths. However I don't understand how to get information like player position. I've been using Patrick's tutorial and my limited knowledge of VB.net. I hope to catch on pretty quickly as I've always had Ideas that I've wanted to see. Shadowrun style teleporting being one of them, even though it'd just work in campaign or selfhosted games.
You need to think of a way, of eliminating out all of the addresses that are not the players position. Moving the player between searches, not moving but shooting/throwing grenades etc.

staticchanger
August 2nd, 2010, 12:49 PM
Alright sounds like a plan. Thanks

Yeah sorry I know I'm off topic.

I wonder if Halo PC's bling will surpass the Halo 2 bling? Like if you played halo 2 you get a silver symbol or something by your name, and if you played PC it just upgrades it to gold.

ejburke
August 2nd, 2010, 01:07 PM
It's probably exactly the same.

Edward Elrich
August 4th, 2010, 02:45 PM
I have one theory... All redeemable codes in Xbox Live Marketplace (and for that matter, any redeem key, serial code, or CD key by Microsoft) are 25 characters. I'm thinking that the CD keys may be a redeemable code that you use to unlock whatever this flair is. I'll probably be doing it on day 1, to make sure no one else can steal it for themselves.

Heathen
August 4th, 2010, 03:34 PM
Thread: Halo PC's key with Reach (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?22057-Halo-PC-s-key-with-Reach&p=551469)

This was to point out how horribly off topic you guys are. I say we lock this thread until we have more information on what the keys are for.

Dwood
August 8th, 2010, 12:48 AM
This was to point out how horribly off topic you guys are. I say we lock this thread until we have more information on what the keys are for.

It's a flair, nothing more, nothing less.

Warsaw
August 9th, 2010, 08:13 PM
If we have two different keys can we get two different flairs? :aaaaa:

staticchanger
August 9th, 2010, 10:10 PM
If we have two different keys can we get two different flairs? :aaaaa:

Two flairs, nothing more nothing less.

ODX
August 9th, 2010, 10:35 PM
If we have two different keys can we get two different flairs? :aaaaa:
It's probably just one flair, which all CD-Keys can unlock. Surely you could sell it for millions though on eBay, depending on what the actual shit is (god damn just tell us already :maddowns:).

Saggy
August 12th, 2010, 02:42 AM
Sawnose needs your help...


I'm going to go out on a limb and (drumroll) ask for advice here...

The keygen I was originally worried about appears to be fake, with just a couple baked-in keys that it randomly picks from.

If there really isn't a working keygen that allows you to play online (not just install the game, which is "easy" to make keys to do) then I can lift the May 26th cutoff and allow all keys including new ones.

So I'll ask you: does anyone know of a real Halo PC keygen? If you do, don't post the link here (duh), and if you don't, don't respond because a million "no" messages won't help me.

thanks.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=46755796&viewreplies=true&postRepeater1-p=30

ODX
August 12th, 2010, 02:49 AM
Just look at all the keys being used on 1.00, see how many are being repeated at least twice, and take them off the list for something usable.

It's possible to do that, right? (looking at just one version of CE?)

Pooky
August 18th, 2010, 07:16 PM
IMO, it would be better to keep the cutoff date than have a flood of newfags go out and buy Halo PC just so they can get a flair ingame.

Cagerrin
August 20th, 2010, 09:04 PM
Nothing too big, but...

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&link=BWU_082010

Futzy
August 20th, 2010, 10:29 PM
That's what I thought it would be. I'll be wearing the one for having all the games.

ejburke
August 20th, 2010, 11:35 PM
I'm eligible for 5 of them. Missed out on the H2/HALO emblems, because my gamertag was something else in the Xbox 1 days. Not that I care. The H1 emblem is MINE!

Lord, help me.

English Mobster
August 21st, 2010, 11:13 AM
Oh, hai. I have (almost) every one of those.
Decisions, decisions...

Limited
August 21st, 2010, 11:34 AM
I got 6 of them, so you cant enable them all at one time, its just ONE visible at a time?

ejburke
August 21st, 2010, 12:00 PM
It would look pretty terrible if they stacked. I'm assuming that you pick one of what you have available.

Rentafence
August 21st, 2010, 12:48 PM
Apparently the cutoff date for CD keys was removed. Now 12 year olds can buy Halo 1 and make us not special :(

Limited
August 21st, 2010, 12:53 PM
Yeah, thats lame, its because he found out the keygen was fake :P.

Well, stacked, but in a way like a deck of cards. So you can see someone has like 6 or so.

Rentafence
August 21st, 2010, 01:00 PM
Yeah, thats lame, its because he found out the keygen was fake :P.

I motion to create a working keygen specifically for this purpose.

Limited
August 21st, 2010, 01:04 PM
I motion to create a working keygen specifically for this purpose.
I say we blackmail him, to not let any more, or we will make a keygen, and we're bluffing.

Rentafence
August 21st, 2010, 01:10 PM
We could buy all remaining discs and destroy them along with their keys, kinda like a book burning, except with a higher chance of us breathing something carcinogenic.

jcap
August 21st, 2010, 05:33 PM
A keygen wouldn't be difficult to make either. I wonder why no one has done it yet.

In for blackmail. >_>

Rentafence
August 21st, 2010, 07:07 PM
Quick, delete the thread to destroy the evidence so it doesn't backfire and they make our keys invalid!

E: Actually this was a trap. Jcap must now give himself a 5 point infraction.

n00b1n8R
August 21st, 2010, 11:33 PM
I know some friends who wouldn't mind a Keygen.
And it'd get the piratefags off 1.00 :p

Kornman00
August 22nd, 2010, 12:09 AM
If it was so goatdamn easy ("not that difficult") to create a keygen then why, in the last 6 or 7 years now, has no one done it for a game which still logs 50k unique players a month?

Rentafence
August 22nd, 2010, 12:14 AM
If it was so goatdamn easy ("not that difficult") to create a keygen then why, in the last 6 or 7 years now, has no one done it for a game which still logs 50k unique players a month?

I'm not sure if the community surrounding the game is any indication, but if we can rarely get decent maps made, who the hell is gonna bother making a keygen?

Not implying that anyone HERE would support something like that.

ejburke
August 22nd, 2010, 05:50 PM
Isn't it just much much much easier to crack a software license directly than reverse-engineer a key algorithm? Plus, whatever key you generate can eventually be blacklisted by the software publisher, if online activation and verification is involved. Those have to be factors in the rarity of actual, working keygens in this day and age.

PopeAK49
August 22nd, 2010, 09:45 PM
I'm not sure if anyone mentioned this but maybe the halo pc key is used for a beta for Halo Reach PC? Please don't facepalm me....

Syuusuke
August 22nd, 2010, 09:48 PM
I mentioned that as a joke.

Kornman00
August 26th, 2010, 01:35 AM
Enter keys here: http://www.bungie.net/Account/nameplates.aspx

News post: http://www.bungie.net/News/Blog.aspx?mode=news#cid28173

Arteen
August 26th, 2010, 01:38 AM
I got my key entered. I even got to read it off of the original sticker!

TeeKup
August 26th, 2010, 02:44 AM
Submitted and successful. See you all with original halo symbol on live come sept 14. :3

ejburke
August 26th, 2010, 03:25 AM
The first time I tried it, it didn't work. A few hours later, it did. Now I can put my OG cardboard sleeve and yellow sticker back in that shoebox.

Pooky
August 26th, 2010, 06:20 AM
I got my key entered. I even got to read it off of the original sticker!

This.

Not like I needed to though, I could probably recite it from memory if I tried.

Spartan094
August 26th, 2010, 06:51 AM
Finally used my key code for something else after 6 years.

t3h m00kz
August 26th, 2010, 09:02 AM
I can't get Marathon as a recent game on my card, fuck me

Rentafence
August 26th, 2010, 11:40 AM
So, do I wanna rock the Halo 1 symbol or the HALO symbol?

They both denote my superiority over the 12 year olds so it's a toss up. :smugoff:

sdavis117
August 26th, 2010, 01:32 PM
The HALO symbol, since every 12 year old is going to be buying Halo PC to grow their epeen, but Halo 2 is gone for good.

Qbob
August 26th, 2010, 02:24 PM
If you want to go real hardcore, though, go for the Durandal one.

Heathen
August 26th, 2010, 10:31 PM
This.

Not like I needed to though, I could probably recite it from memory if I tried.

Man I know. I know the first 3 parts of mine.

EX12693
August 26th, 2010, 10:42 PM
I memorized mine a LONG time ago. Why is that so hard?

Heathen
August 26th, 2010, 10:59 PM
I never set out to do it, just having typed it so many times.

I know every single word on my credit card. Even the disclaimers and shit.

Ifafudafi
August 26th, 2010, 10:59 PM
I was playing Halo 2 on a different gamertag way back in the day so now I'm denied access to the got dang HALO shit, but I guess I'll be fine with HPC. Since virtually nobody sells copies at retail anymore I doubt there'll be many kids flaunting the H1 symbol anyway

Will definitely be using this and the Mark V helmet

TeeKup
August 27th, 2010, 12:26 AM
Mark V helmet, multi threat shoulder armor.

Other armor will be decided later.

Cagerrin
August 27th, 2010, 01:09 AM
I like the Mark V helmet, but the Gungnir kinda blows it out of the water.

(if I had a 360 and Reach, this is what I'd run (http://www.majhost.com/gallery/TalonX/randomstuff/gungnir_armour_cfg.png))

English Mobster
August 27th, 2010, 01:36 AM
Gungnir or EOD. It's a toss-up.
Colors: Pink and black.
Armor effect: Flames.
Firefight Voice: Stacker.
Haven't decided on much else.

FRain
August 27th, 2010, 01:51 AM
Helmet: Scout/Jun's
Left shoulder: Sniper ammo belt
Right Shoulder: Emile's Kukri
Armor Effect: None
FF Voice: Carter or Buck, not sure.
Colors: Black/steel and dark blue.

TeeKup
August 27th, 2010, 05:07 AM
Also firefight voice will be Stacker as well, seeing as how is probably one of my favorite characters throughout the games.

My favorite quotes have to be:
"He's an idiot, about to become a dead idiot."
"Alright, start digging a hole, someone start digging a hole."
"You can't be that bad on purpose, Chief"
"Well, I'd be pretty angry too if my face looked like a squid!"
"Hey, if you suck, it's your own damn fault."
"Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, I kill you."
"I'm gonna send you all the way back to Planet Jackass!"
"According to the manual, you're a dumb ass!" - that one had me rolling for a while.
"The only thing left back there is a shortcut to hell!"
"You stubby little porker!"

Qbob
August 27th, 2010, 08:58 AM
Man, I'm just going to go default on my first playthrough, worry about customisation later.

Siliconmaster
August 27th, 2010, 10:02 AM
I cannot contribute to the above conversation due to there being extremely vague game spoilers. :P So vague it doesn't really matter, but I'm determined to be totally surprised, even by Stacker's dialogue. I can say though that I'll be rocking the HPC logo. I don't care if a bunch of 12 year olds are going to buy it just to use it, I've spent a hell of a lot of time in this engine, and I plan to show that off.

sevlag
August 27th, 2010, 10:28 AM
mark V helmet, multi threat armor

teal and gray (been using teal since HCE and the gray came along in halo2)

Rentafence
August 27th, 2010, 11:54 AM
The fuck is the gugnir supposed to be?

"With the blast shield down I can't see anything! How am I supposed to fight"

Cagerrin
August 27th, 2010, 04:06 PM
It's not really a blast shield?

Pretty sure it's got a projected image running inside it.

Rentafence
August 27th, 2010, 04:27 PM
It's not really a blast shield?

Pretty sure it's got a projected image running inside it.

Star Wars reference WOOOOSH

Qbob
August 27th, 2010, 04:51 PM
Can't really fault a guy for missing a Star Wars reference.

Pooky
August 27th, 2010, 05:01 PM
Can't really fault a guy for missing a Star Wars reference.

Um, yes you can, especially on a freakin video game forum.

Cagerrin
August 27th, 2010, 05:21 PM
I've missed 3 or 4 Star Wars references in the past two days, and I have no damned idea why. Must be getting old and foggy.

Pooky
August 27th, 2010, 05:28 PM
It's not you, it's just the way he wrote it. Like Star Wars is some obscure thing no one's ever heard of, and not one of the biggest pieces of pop culture to ever exist.

Qbob
August 27th, 2010, 05:45 PM
Um, yes you can, especially on a freakin video game forum.
Well, I don't.

Cagerrin
August 27th, 2010, 05:53 PM
Well, I don't.
Then specify "I" when you post something that's your personal opinion?

Qbob
August 27th, 2010, 06:00 PM
I guess this is a particularly important issue in these parts?

Cagerrin
August 27th, 2010, 06:05 PM
Dunno. I think it's just a useful part of communication, it's fairly helpful if the people you're talking to know that you're posting your opinion, that you're not construing said opinion is fact?

English Mobster
August 27th, 2010, 06:35 PM
Guys:
SHUT UP.
Back on topic:
Will be rockin' the Halo logo. Fuck yeah.

Spartan094
August 27th, 2010, 06:37 PM
I wish I played H2 on live, thanks to it being on another account.....

I'll be rocking with Marathon and Halo 1 logo.

Tbh if you hear a little kid and he has a halo 1 logo you know he bought it this year.

Cagerrin
August 27th, 2010, 06:38 PM
I wish I played H2 on live, thanks to it being on another account.....

I'll be rocking with Marathon and Halo 1 logo.

Tbh if you hear a little kid and he has a halo 1 logo you know he bought it this year.
But with the matchmaking preferences you might not even hear any kids like that. Which is great.

Spartan094
August 27th, 2010, 06:43 PM
But with the matchmaking preferences you might not even hear any kids like that. Which is great.
And there's an option to mute them as always.
:mech2:

But I barely go on H3 matchmaking due to screeching little kids that use elites 98% of the time.

Cagerrin
August 27th, 2010, 06:46 PM
Speaking of Elites and options, I wonder how long it'll take for someone to make an armour generator.

Delta4907
August 27th, 2010, 07:55 PM
Most likely as soon as Bungie puts up the new Reach profile and stat page.

supersniper
August 30th, 2010, 10:58 PM
lol i was lazy and used the cd recovery app for my key :)

Warsaw
September 1st, 2010, 01:12 AM
I had to decide which of my two copies of Halo PC I wanted to punch in...I chose the second one, because it's the one I usually use. :D

Nero
September 1st, 2010, 10:45 AM
Its saying I cant load the page where I input the key. :( *sadface*
I hope choclatenugget didnt put in my key! Hurr durr.