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Hotrod
August 16th, 2010, 05:24 PM
So, not that long ago, I decided to get into Warhammer 40k by buying myself a battleset (a couple of friends did the same). I bought a Chaos Space Marines battleset, while they bought Space Wolves and Dark Angles. I was stuck between the World Eaters and Warriors of Mayhem, but eventually sided with the most bloodthirsty, crazy, insane Space Marines around. So, after assembling all my guys, I noticed that my army didn't reach up to the 1000 points that we were planning on using for our games. What could I get that would fix the problem? That's when it occurred to me : a Chaos Dreadnought! So, I hauled my ass back to Games Workshop, only to realize that the Chaos Dreadnought is a metal model. Seeing as how I've never assembled metal models before, the guy there recommended that I buy a regular Space Marine Dreadnought and convert it to Chaos with little bits and pieces from the battleset. So, I happily went home with a new Venerable Dreadnought friend, which I proceeded to force to join the Dark Side. My friend then got a nice Chaos Terminator Champion from a friend of his who was no longer into Warhammer (it wasn't painted or assembled), and since he didn't need it due to him having Dark Angles, he gave it to me for free, yay! Seeing as how I had no HQ unit, he was to be my new Chaos Lord, who finally brought me to 998 points.

A few weeks later, we got together and played a few games. I won a some, lost some, it was all great fun. However, I felt there was something missing from my army, something that could destroy anything in it's path from a mile away Seeing as how my Khorne Bezerkers failed me terribly during my games, this new guy needed to be able to kick ass in melee as well. But kind of Chaos unit could do such a thing while being extremely badass at the same time? Of course, the answer was obvious : Chaos Defiler! Now my army is complete (for the moment), so here's a few looks at what I have so far :

P.S : Sorry for the mediocre quality of some of the shots, I'm not that great of a photographer.


Boxes!
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs299.snc4/41271_424835285937_543415937_5502464_7461984_n.jpg

My finished models
(Even though it says that they are finished, some of them still require a few touch ups here and there)

08/16/2010

Chaos Space Marines
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs181.ash2/44468_424829195937_543415937_5502303_8233845_n.jpg

Aspiring Champion
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs198.ash2/46141_424829375937_543415937_5502314_692656_n.jpg

Khorne Icon Bearer
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs378.snc4/46141_424829380937_543415937_5502315_1186905_n.jpg

My Chaos Space Marines squad so far
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs198.ash2/46141_424829385937_543415937_5502316_4590174_n.jpg

Khorne Bezerker Skull Champion (I am aware that helmet makes no sense on a Khorne Bezerker, but I thought it looked cool)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs378.snc4/46141_424829390937_543415937_5502317_2653663_n.jpg

Khorne Bezerker
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs372.snc4/45533_424829595937_543415937_5502326_2750605_n.jpg

Khorne Bezerker squad so far
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs192.ash2/45533_424829600937_543415937_5502327_7709994_n.jpg

Possessed Squad so far
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5502464&id=543415937
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5502464&id=543415937

Chaos Terminator Lord
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs392.snc4/45533_424829615937_543415937_5502330_1457203_n.jpg

Chaos Dreadnought
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs392.snc4/45533_424829620937_543415937_5502331_469779_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs392.snc4/45533_424829625937_543415937_5502332_409080_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs312.snc4/40925_424829850937_543415937_5502341_4602644_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs312.snc4/40925_424829855937_543415937_5502342_3217443_n.jpg

Chaos Rhino (my first assembled and painted)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs292.snc4/40925_424829860937_543415937_5502343_1755385_n.jpg

My army so far
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs152.ash2/40925_424829865937_543415937_5502344_7330727_n.jpg

My WIPs
(Some of these I had fun with, and don't exactly follow the rules on how they should look)

08/16/2010

Defiler
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs312.snc4/40925_424829870937_543415937_5502345_207662_n.jpg

Chaos Space Marine
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs293.snc4/41011_424835820937_543415937_5502471_4304667_n.jpg

Possessed Chaos Space Marine
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs153.ash2/41011_424835825937_543415937_5502472_3966280_n.jpg

Khorne Bezerker (more melee weapons = more awesome, right?)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs153.ash2/41011_424835830937_543415937_5502473_6131963_n.jpg


08/17/2010

Defilerhttp://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs314.snc4/41033_425238125937_543415937_5513854_3324001_n.jpg

So yeah, I'll update as I get more done. Feel free to post comments and criticism!

thehoodedsmack
August 16th, 2010, 05:50 PM
Custom Chapters > Canon Chapters

Anyways, they'll look fine from a distance. Up close you can really see where the paint has passed over the armor's features and hit the armor itself. You'll get better at this the more you paint, though.

Hotrod
August 16th, 2010, 06:07 PM
Yeah, that's what I meant by touch ups. The Dreadnought is definitely the worst when it comes to those mistakes, as well as the first Chaos Space Marine on the left in the second picture. Oh, and I should also point out that the Icon Bearer also has a pretty nasty red mark on his left horn.

Yeah, I know I'm pointing out my mistakes, but it's to show that I'm aware of some of my mistakes. Thanks for the criticism though! I appreciate it.

EDIT : And yeah, I was planning on maybe doing a custom warband, but I decided to stick with a canon one to start and get better at it. I'll most likely do a custom one for my next army.

TeeKup
August 17th, 2010, 12:21 AM
Hey fight a nid player...get back to me with the results.

Hotrod
August 17th, 2010, 12:39 AM
I don't know anybody who plays them :(

TeeKup
August 17th, 2010, 02:23 AM
D: Shame. My friend matt runs nids, and they're fucking terrifying. He's running a mawloc. :3

Hotrod
August 17th, 2010, 10:31 AM
Oh, I've heard horror stories of people playing against them. Supposedly there's something called an Uberfex that's basically am Uber Carnifex that has like 5 wounds and has the possibility of healing a wound every turn. Oh, and did I mention that it could climb walls too?

Again, before I bought my Codex, I was debating over Nids or Chaos Space Marines.

Hotrod
August 17th, 2010, 08:30 PM
Sorry for the double post, but here's a little update as of this morning. If you haven't noticed the changes, I added a coat of blood red paint on the dark red that was already there, and then added some gold trim around a few areas. I also started putting a bit of dark gray at the back there.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs314.snc4/41033_425238125937_543415937_5513854_3324001_n.jpg

I've done a lot more work since then which includes fixing bad painting at some areas shown in this pictures as well as painting new areas, but it's too dark to take a good picture. Perhaps sometime tomorrow after I do more work. Oh, and the first post has been updated with this picture too.

As always, comments and criticism is always appreciated!

n00b1n8R
August 17th, 2010, 11:26 PM
Wait, so your group is Marines Marines and Marines?
How boring :mech:
Still, at least all your armies have a sound canonical reason to fight each other :iamafag:

As for the models, they're great for a first-timer. I really think you should check out the badab black/devlan mud washes. GW infuses them with some kind of freaky voodoo that makes everything (especially non-highlighted flat surfaced models like yours) look much better. They're great for beginners (no disrespect) and people more interested in having a presentible army for gaming than individual masterpeices that take 3 hours each. Slap that shit all over your model and you'll see what I mean. (Use the GW freebies first on your test model before buying, I'm not sure which would go better with the word bearers, just ask them)
reference (http://blog.brushthralls.com/?page_id=4193), reference (http://www.one-ring.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12800&sid=1941665656803e02b266c426bb03f2d5).

Also, why can't you play at your GW? Should be plenty of other people there looking for a game.
(even if they are 12)

Crackers
August 17th, 2010, 11:36 PM
I might get into this now. Not to play the game or anything, just to buy really nice models and give them a high end paint job then sell them back to people for a higher price. Profit.

Hotrod
August 18th, 2010, 12:49 AM
Wait, so your group is Marines Marines and Marines?
How boring :mech:
Still, at least all your armies have a sound canonical reason to fight each other :iamafag:

As for the models, they're great for a first-timer. I really think you should check out the badab black/devlan mud washes. GW infuses them with some kind of freaky voodoo that makes everything (especially non-highlighted flat surfaced models like yours) look much better. They're great for beginners (no disrespect) and people more interested in having a presentible army for gaming than individual masterpeices that take 3 hours each. Slap that shit all over your model and you'll see what I mean. (Use the GW freebies first on your test model before buying, I'm not sure which would go better with the word bearers, just ask them)
reference (http://blog.brushthralls.com/?page_id=4193), reference (http://www.one-ring.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12800&sid=1941665656803e02b266c426bb03f2d5).

Also, why can't you play at your GW? Should be plenty of other people there looking for a game.
(even if they are 12)
Yeah, we're lame like that. At least I had an idea about what I wanted to do a long time before they did. I mean, the Space Wolves guy was thinking of going guardsmen, and the other was thinking Necron. But hey, I guess this is what we got. There was supposed to be a fourth guy who was definitely doing to be Necrons, but he decided that Warhammer was too expensive for him at the moment...

And for the mud washes, that's exactly what I was looking for! I was looking at my models, and it just seemed that something was missing something to make them look awesome. I cannot thank you enough for this. Any tips on how to apply them?

And I could play at my GW, but it's currently about 30 minutes away from me, and I don't always have access to a car. In plus, I'm moving into residence at University in two weeks and a half, and once again, I'll be about half an hour away from the Games Workshop by bus, since I won't have a car there. Not to mention I'll be quite busy too.

n00b1n8R
August 18th, 2010, 06:10 AM
Splash it everywhere. It dries more or less evenly and adds depth to everything so you don't need any skill to use it at all really. Just do it on a test model first (everybody needs at least 1 designated test model!)
Or if you have to be neat, devlan for everything except the silver metals and badab for those.
(doing it over everything gives a nice uniform tint to the whole model however)

Reaper Man
August 18th, 2010, 07:06 AM
FOR THE GREATER GOOD
http://a.imageshack.us/img717/8670/taubattlesuit.jpg

n00b1n8R
August 18th, 2010, 09:38 AM
FOR THE GREATER GOOD
http://a.imageshack.us/img717/8670/taubattlesuit.jpg
Figures the asian goes for Tau :mech2:
faggot
<3

Hotrod
August 18th, 2010, 02:08 PM
FOR THE GREATER GOOD
http://a.imageshack.us/img717/8670/taubattlesuit.jpg
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
http://th09.deviantart.com/fs9/300W/i/2006/069/5/0/Kharn_the_Betrayer_by_kunkka.jpg

I think I win.

Yeah, so my camera ran out of batteries, so that other update will have to wait. However, I have a question for all of you since I need your opinion. I've been looking at my army, and I find it's a tad stale due to the fact that they're ALL the same in the sense that they have red armor with golden trim. Any ideas on how to have a bit more variety while keeping them distinctly World Eaters?

thehoodedsmack
August 18th, 2010, 02:23 PM
You could try using an exacto-knife to score dents, cuts, and marks in the armor, to give them a worn appearance. Or try using Green Stuff to create unique weapons for characters. Since they're Chaos, you could add some more graphic details, such as enemy heads and trophies hanging off them. Of course that would require you to buy parts just for that purpose, so that's usually reserved for something like competition modeling.

You could also try painting unique symbols onto the shoulders of your Sergeants/HQ equivalents, giving them a personal feel. That's why I prefer Custom Chapters, as I'll end up giving most of my army individual names and back-story.

Hotrod
August 18th, 2010, 02:38 PM
I'm loving the idea of using the exacto-knife to put in dents and cuts. In fact, I'll probably go do that once I get off the computer. I was also thinking of maybe changing around the paint. Maybe have a few guys with gold shoulders and lower legs, and having a red trim there, or maybe having a few of them with black helmets or...I dunno. That's really what I'm asking for when I say variety, any ideas about that?

n00b1n8R
August 19th, 2010, 10:23 AM
Do dents with a pin vice.
Vary the cuts between straight lines (chanswords, etc) and small sets of parallel lines (claws).

If you employ a little google-fu, there's so many tutorials out there on this stuff.

Also you could probably grab an Imperial marine's tac or assault kit (especially the assult legs) to add some dynamic poses/looted equipment to your army (these guys are effectively loosly-organised raiders these days IIRC).

Hotrod
August 19th, 2010, 02:55 PM
Yeah, so I had a little fun and scratched up my Rhino and a test Chaos Marine, and I must admit, I'm pleased with the results. And for buying another kit of Marines, there's two problems with that. First, my guys are already all assembled, and I'm almost out of glue (which is being kept to assemble my Defiler and to glue on the shoulder pieces of the rest of my guys. Second of all, another kit wouldn't be the best idea to buy right now, since I'm off to University in two weeks, and I need to save the most money possible. However, I will keep that in mind, since it's a great idea.

Sorry for the lack of picture updates, my camera is still dead. I should have some more pictures tonight though.

Hotrod
August 20th, 2010, 11:22 AM
Sorry for the double post (again), but it's update time!

Here's some pics of my touched-up Rhino, note the scratches and repainted treads and bolter. Of course, it's not done being touched up yet, but it's getting there.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs364.snc4/44704_426023855937_543415937_5530603_7100683_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs301.snc4/40384_426023920937_543415937_5530604_7416110_n.jpg

And then here's a few scratched up space marines, just testing out a few ideas on them. Would it be better to paint over the scratches, or leave them white? What do you guys think?
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs281.snc4/40384_426023930937_543415937_5530606_6445848_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs316.snc4/41119_426024085937_543415937_5530609_7533500_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs301.snc4/40384_426023925937_543415937_5530605_2789341_n.jpg

Now just a touch-up of my Aspiring Champion's helmet.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs156.ash2/41119_426024075937_543415937_5530607_7811714_n.jpg

And finally, the WIP of my Defiler. It's getting there, slowly but surely. Sorry about the crappy lighting in this one, it doesn't really do the model any justice.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs316.snc4/41119_426024080937_543415937_5530608_7346446_n.jpg

As always, comments and criticism welcome!

n00b1n8R
August 20th, 2010, 09:54 PM
I'd make the scratches on the tank a bit bigger and one one side, I'd put a line of black under the metal (where the "primer" has been exposed).
Remember not to go too overboard either with your damage ;)

PS. Iron warriors are cooler than World Eaters, sorry.

Hotrod
August 20th, 2010, 10:59 PM
So, the black goes only one side? Why only one? Sounds good though. Oh, and I've figured out a way to add a bit of diversity into my Marines. What I'll do is take 5 of the 15 Chaos Marines, and use them as Chosen Chaos Space Marines. And, to differentiate them from the others, I'll give each of those Marines a unique paint scheme while keeping most of the World Eaters scheme. For example, I'm almost done this one Marine that has the basic colour scheme, except has a black torso and head instead of the regular red. And then for another one, I'll have his upper legs being black or gold, as well as his shoulders. Each of these 5 Marines has been modified/converted, so they look nice and special. One example of these is the Chaos Space Marine shown in the first post that has the shield on his arm.

So what do you guys think of that?

PS : World Eaters are definitely cooler than Iron Warriors. Nothing beats bloodthirsty killing machines.

Reaper Man
August 21st, 2010, 01:23 AM
Urgh, it looks like you didn't even undercoat your models... Undercoat them in black, then for areas that need to be lighter, add a layer or two of white, and build up the base coat from there. I hated it when my friends rushed their paintjobs back in the day when we all had Warhammer models.

n00b1n8R
August 21st, 2010, 02:42 AM
I'd forgive him for using white since his models are mostly red (hell, I use white for everything since it makes the colours more vivid :downs:)
Also, make sure you thin your paints to the consistency of milk (with water). You'll need a few coats to get the same solid colour but you'll avoid any streakyness (if you apply enough coats) and won't clog details.
GW paint is pretty notorious for that :x

E: wait what are we talking about, it's obvious from the defiler WIP's that he's using white primer.

Hotrod
August 21st, 2010, 09:17 AM
Oh so I'm supposed to water them down? That's something I wasn't aware of, although it does make sense. I'll try it out and see what it does for me. Should I just stick the water directly into the bottle or should I get something where I can mix paints?

Also, like n00b said, I have a white primer which I then cover with a menachite (or something like that) red, as seen on the first picture of the Defiler WIP. I then add a coat of Blood Red over that. Remember, this is my first time doing this so it won't look too too amazing. I really appreciate all the tips though.

n00b1n8R
August 21st, 2010, 10:03 AM
I'm a little embarrassed I didn't say thin your paints in my first post, apparently I haven't been to /tg/ enough lately :p
Get a little pallet (one with wells keeps the paint from drying out as quickly on the pallet but I've seen a lot of places use tiles so whatever floats your boat) and mix them on that.

Hotrod
August 21st, 2010, 12:59 PM
Alright, that sounds really good to me. Yeah, sorry for being such a beginner at this stuff, I've never really painted anything before.

I have another question. I've been looking around at people's models, and they just look so good with their lighters trims and all that. However, I don't want to risk trying that just yet, in fear of screwing up my guys. So, my question is, how would a beginner like me be able to put trims on his guys in an easy and reliable manner? And what colour do you guys recommend that I use for them?

n00b1n8R
August 21st, 2010, 09:15 PM
There's nothing wrong with being a beginner dude, we were all there ;)
Hell, you're doing what a lot of beginners DON'T do, listening to criticism, seeking feedback and wanting to try new things.

What do you mean by trims? Got some example pics?
Also, since you're a marine player I'd suggest you sign up over at The Bolter & Chainsword (http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/). They're a p cool community of chaos/marines players who'll have a lot of army-specific advice for you.

Hotrod
August 21st, 2010, 10:00 PM
When I say trim, take a look at this picture here :

http://i754.photobucket.com/albums/xx188/icemanbb/Space%20wolves/DSC02138.jpg

If you look at the edges and corners, the colours are a bit brighter, giving off a nice effect. However, I know that if I try that, I'll just splotch the whole thing up and it'll look ugly as hell, and it probably wouldn't be the right colour. Any suggestions? Oh, and if you look at the lights or whatever on the Dreadnought, it looks like glass, looking all shiny and stuff.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is how to make my models look good. When you look at models made by people that have been doing this crap for years, all their models look nice, clean and actually real while mine look really fake. Just by looking at the pictures, I can't tell what it is that I'm doing wrong. Here's an example of a very sexy marine :

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l266/jah-minis/forum%20pics/HOLCaptain1.jpg

What can I do to make my guys look awesome like that? Once again, I really appreciate the help, and I will definitely be checking out that website. Thanks a lot!


P.S : Oh, and one last thing, I've painted two of my Chosen Chaos Space Marines with alternate colour schemes, will post pictures tomorrow.

n00b1n8R
August 22nd, 2010, 12:12 AM
Ah, thought that may be what you mean. The lighter edges are actually called highlighting. Trim would be the gold bits around the sarcophagus.
Check the link I sent you for details on the lenses (which are really simple) and other awesome crap. I'm sure it'll help.

For blood red armour, I use a blazing orange highlight. Get a small brush and use the sides to go over the edges for edge hard highlights.
The second model you posted there is a great example of how to paint the hardest colour. The thing with white is that you can't highlight it with a brighter colour so you've got to paint it in off-white while still making it look white. He's also used blending (really visible on the above the right foot) and the eyes are an example of Object Source Lighting (OSL (http://blog.brushthralls.com/?page_id=1916)). Neither are particularly easy techniques to master (though blending is a requirement for high-end models unless you're deliberately going for a striated look).

Basically it all comes down to practice practice practice. It's expected that your models will look bad when you're starting out. You need to just accept that and learn from the mistakes you make on every model you paint. It gets much easier

UnevenElefant5
August 22nd, 2010, 01:51 AM
This thread is making me want to finish my Renegade IG army.
I just wish I knew more people in my area that played this game, then I would have more motivation to actually learn the rules. Right now I'm just painting the models 'cause they're fun to paint.

Warsaw
August 22nd, 2010, 02:54 AM
no u, Iron Warriors all the way. D:

Nice painting, surely better than I could do.

Feh, Imperial Guard > Chaos anyways:
http://tobaal.free.fr/Figurines/WH40K/Imperial%20Guard%2008.jpg

n00b1n8R
August 22nd, 2010, 04:39 AM
GOD TIER:


Tyranids
Orks


HIGH TIER:


Eldar
Dark Eldar
Chaos
Guard

NORMAL TIER:


Chaos Daemons
Space Wolves
Sisters of Battle
Daemon Hunters
Tau

LOW TIER:


Necrons

ABSOLUTE FAGGOT TIER:


All other loyalist marines

If you don't agree then you're a colossaly cool guy who is entitled to their opinion.

E: this is what I meant when I said put a black line under your chips (ignore the bootleg :p)
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/savedforhotrod.jpg

Hotrod
August 22nd, 2010, 09:55 AM
@n00b : Ah ok, that does look really good, and it gives me a nice idea on how do add in some chips and cuts into my own marines. Even just by looking at that picture, I already have a few ideas about what to do to make my own guys look better too (although that PM you sent me was amazingly helpful too). I don't want to sound too egotistic or cocky, but for a beginner that has never really painted before, I would say that my models are pretty good, no? Because compared to my own guys, I've seen some pretty bad stuff...

@Warsaw : Thanks! I'm sure that with practice, you could do some nice stuff too. That's one thing I've learned over the past years of drawing (I never did post my stuff here, did I?). The more you practice, the better you get. If I compare my work from two years ago to what I can do now...man, I was so bad before :P

Oh, and Chaos >>> Imperial Guard, even though Guardsmen are pretty badass.

@UnevenElefant : Finish them! Trust me, whenever you leave a project unfinished, you always regret having done so. In plus, I'm curious to see what your guys look like ;)

Warsaw
August 22nd, 2010, 03:38 PM
Hey, you know that flashlight spamming is awesome. Even SM armour doesn't stand a chance to the massive bucket o' dice. :p

Also yes, I fall in the same boat. I'm much better at drawing now than I was two years ago. I had to overcome the natural tendency to draw anime-style...I don't even like drawing in that style. I just don't have a very steady hand for painting.

Hotrod
August 23rd, 2010, 03:54 PM
Woot! Update time again! Sorry that it took so long. Anyway, here's what I have :

First off, my Chosen Chaos Space Marines. I decided to make 5 of them Chosen just as an excuse to give them different colour schemes. Of course, I will most likely be using them as regular Chaos Marines most of the time. And yes, I know I missed a few spots here and there on the one with the black head/body, I'll fix them, don't worry ;)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs193.ash2/45572_427004220937_543415937_5557489_4367771_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs160.ash2/41350_427004385937_543415937_5557491_4293852_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs300.snc4/41350_427004390937_543415937_5557492_6891662_n.jpg

And then I've been playing around some more with my Rhino, decided to do what n00b said and add some black into the cracks. I then realized that it looked a lot like a burn mark from plasma or a flamer, so I tested that effect out one a few places.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs160.ash2/41350_427004400937_543415937_5557493_6882261_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs300.snc4/41350_427004405937_543415937_5557494_3557068_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs160.ash2/41350_427004410937_543415937_5557495_3014133_n.jpg

And finally, Defiler is coming along nicely :) Should be done soon enough :)
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs286.snc4/40616_427004550937_543415937_5557496_607661_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs286.snc4/40616_427004560937_543415937_5557498_6587718_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs286.snc4/40616_427004555937_543415937_5557497_4094701_n.jpg

So what do you guys think?

And you're right Warsaw, nothing can survive against a million flashlights ;)

n00b1n8R
August 23rd, 2010, 11:10 PM
The flamer damage looks good and you're definitely improving with your painting. :)
Also, better idea for the paint damage - paint the black on first, then the metal. Should have posted that earlier.

It still looks like you're using monotone metalics though. Fix that asap! (atleast use washes, preferably dry-brushed highlights as well).

Hotrod
August 23rd, 2010, 11:49 PM
Thanks! And I worked on my older models to bring them up to par with my current ones. I was going to take pictures of them to show, but I got too lazy to carry them all upstairs. Yeah, about the metalics, I was waiting to buy some washes. But what else would you suggest I do with them? I wanted to fix them up but couldn't think of anything.

n00b1n8R
August 24th, 2010, 12:39 AM
I've mainly painted nids so metallics aren't my strong suit. Just check the book ;)

UnevenElefant5
August 24th, 2010, 12:44 AM
I like the way you're going with the paint job, although I do agree with n00b1n8R, try using some washes on the metallics, it will look a lot more natural that way. Also I like that little shield you added onto that marine, I might have to put a shield on one of my Chaos Marines.

n00b1n8R
August 24th, 2010, 01:16 AM
As an aside, you can buy some Warhammer Fantasy Warriors of Chaos and mix their parts in with your marines. It looks surprisingly awesome. :o
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l183/n00b1n8R/convertedchaos.jpg

Hotrod
August 24th, 2010, 09:35 AM
I've mainly painted nids so metallics aren't my strong suit. Just check the book ;)
Will do! And man, that chaos army looks pretty amazing of you ask me. I might just have to do that with them.


Also I like that little shield you added onto that marine, I might have to put a shield on one of my Chaos Marines.
Haha, go for it! I find it adds a nice diversity to my army and it actually looks good! But wait until my other guy, he's even better :) Shield + sword sound good to anyone?

Warsaw
August 25th, 2010, 12:39 AM
Corrupt Sword Brethren?

:aaaaa:

Hotrod
August 31st, 2010, 12:28 AM
Ok, so I've been gone a few days, been busy the others, but I'm back with a small update! Sorry for the two top pics being crappy quality, I just couldn't get good shots with them, and I was running short on time so I didn't try too too hard to make good ones. I promise I'll have better ones once they're done.

So, here's some cool Khorne Bezerker who's not quite done yet, all good, yeah yeah same old stuff.
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/2189/dsc01236n.jpg

Anyway, I found all the red and gold extremely repetitive and I wanted to mix things up a bit. Since I was also very interested in the Warriors of Mayhem (I've always found that the purple and silver look pretty damn good together), so I decided to try that out a bit. This guy's not done yet, but he's looking nice so far.
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2268/dsc01235nl.jpg

And, while I was at Games Workshop, I decided to treat myself to something. They say pictures are worth a thousand words, so here's a 4000 word essay :
http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/9214/dsc01228v.jpg
But wait, where on Earth did I get that new arm?
http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/4696/dsc01229o.jpg
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/694/dsc01230m.jpg
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/6597/dsc01231ca.jpg

So yes, I now have an IronClad Dreadnought ready to be converted to Chaos. But, I'm not too sure how exactly I should do this one. I mean, I want to do something different than my first one, yet keep it similar. Any ideas? And what's your opinion on the fact that I have two warbands in my army? Comment! Criticize! Worship!

n00b1n8R
August 31st, 2010, 02:17 AM
(Khorne is red and brass, not gold :p)

Berserker is looking nice though, you're much neater and smoother with your paint work.
The bone bursting out of the Dread makes it look a lot more chaos'ey too. I'd really suggest you start conversion work before assembly though (eg, cutting off Imperial Aquila's, ad-mech symbowls, purity seals, etc) to make your life easier.

The purple scheme is good too. SHADE THAT METAL ASAP :gonk:

Hotrod
August 31st, 2010, 10:38 AM
Yeah, I know it's meant to be brass except that my Games Workshop doesn't have any brass...which is really dumb...so I had to go with gold. Oh, and any tips on how to cut off those things you mentioned? I've never cut off details like that before.

n00b1n8R
August 31st, 2010, 10:40 AM
With a scalpel (you should be cutting off the mould-lines with this too, check the book).

Hotrod
April 10th, 2011, 01:53 PM
Right, so it's been way too long since I've updated this thread, but I decided I wanted to show off some semi-recent updates to my army. So enjoy! :) Oh, and I'm still horrible at taking pictures, and don't have a camera with me here in residence, so this is what you get, let's hope it works.

Oh, and some of my pictures are darker than others despite being taken right after the other. Dunno why, but I'll try to fix all my camera suckyness for the next update (should be in about a week). Some guys won't be shown due to having their pictures of pretty atrocious quality, but they'll be shown in the next update.

First off, here's a look at the regular Chaos Space Marines, which have all featured a nice retouch. I decided to have a bit of fun with one of them, changing up his power pack thingy and giving him a Venerable Dreadnought helmet.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182017_10150096217540938_543415937_6911524_4561048 _n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180724_10150096344330938_543415937_6913119_1772610 _n.jpg

Next up are the Possessed Chaos Marines. Note the Possessed Khorne Berzerker :3
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180682_10150096217210938_543415937_6911522_850073_ n.jpg

This Rhino is still getting a nice amount of updates. Actually, this picture is quite outdated, since I've made a few major changes to it since this picture was taken, including the top hatch being gold instead of red, and having a bunch of details all around being redone.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183436_10150096225315938_543415937_6911589_3056488 _n.jpg

And with the Rhino comes the Khorne Berzerkers that it carries in games (not that it's ever done a good job lately). Note that some of these are old, and others are newer, so quality will vary.
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183546_10150096346345938_543415937_6913164_2182009 _n.jpg

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/182710_10150096346170938_543415937_6913159_3319919 _n.jpg

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183151_10150096345975938_543415937_6913155_2695570 _n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/185899_10150096345765938_543415937_6913151_4177840 _n.jpg

I'm sure you want to see how the Defiler turned out (or maybe you don't, but too bad, you're seeing it anyway). Once again, sorry for not having that great of a picture as well as not showing off much of it. More to come on that though!
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181906_10150096225615938_543415937_6911595_3775593 _n.jpg

Dreadnought #1 also got a few changes to him, not too too much though.
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183185_10150096217960938_543415937_6911529_7168613 _n.jpg

Perhaps you've been wondering what ever happened with my other Dreadnought? Well here it is. Once again, I've made a few changes to it since this picture was taken, so you'll get to see that soon enough.
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183513_10150096225185938_543415937_6911587_3747198 _n.jpg

http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183439_10150096344605938_543415937_6913123_8138334 _n.jpg

And after all that World Eaters, I decided to take a break and try out different colour schemes. Introducting the Chaos Raptors of The Pyre!
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182284_10150096216800938_543415937_6911518_5837806 _n.jpg

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180606_10150096344985938_543415937_6913131_7632210 _n.jpg

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183110_10150096345185938_543415937_6913136_7668449 _n.jpg

And then the Terminators of my own custom warband, with their blue, silver and bronze. Don't worry, they're a Khorne Warband, they chose blue as their main colour to mock the Thousand Sons.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180927_10150096217800938_543415937_6911526_52881_n .jpg

And with Chaos Terminators obviously comes a Chaos Land Raider! It's actually completely painted now in the same colour scheme as the Termies (and does look nice if I do say so myself)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/182838_10150096217395938_543415937_6911523_3564711 _n.jpg
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183803_10150096345600938_543415937_6913146_6881983 _n.jpg

So that's it for the moment, but there's more to come. I'm currently working on some other guys at the moment which I'm extremely proud of, but I can't tell you what they are yet since that would ruin the surprise. But I can tell you that I've gone back to the World Eaters colours, and these new guys are heavily converted.

Hopefully you've enjoyed my update, and I'll bring more soon!

Donut
April 10th, 2011, 02:55 PM
iv never played the game, so i cant appreciate it for game content, but i can appreciate it for artistic talent. these are awesome
i always love seeing stuff like this :iamafag:

RedBaron
April 10th, 2011, 05:58 PM
Wow, that's a huge improvement since your August posts. I hope you guys don't mind if I start posting some of my Blood Angels, but I really don't have anything to show since I just started painting again, and I've still got school on top of that. Here is a freehand I've done and also two guys that I've painted along time ago. I have since finalized my painting "recipe" and have started using badab' black on all my guys. The recent tactical marines that I've done (and don't have images of) look much darker and grimier. My friends often made fun of my old paint jobs as they were too vibrant and red. At least I learned how to thin down paint and do even base coating early on:realsmug:
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Hotrod
April 10th, 2011, 07:05 PM
iv never played the game, so i cant appreciate it for game content, but i can appreciate it for artistic talent. these are awesome
i always love seeing stuff like this :iamafag:
Thanks! The game is really fun though. I hadn't played for about 8 months, but I got back together with my friends (we had a little...let's just call it a misunderstanding so things weren't that good between us for a while) and it's great, even though I keep losing due to a lack of HQ units.


Wow, that's a huge improvement since your August posts. I hope you guys don't mind if I start posting some of my Blood Angels, but I really don't have anything to show since I just started painting again, and I've still got school on top of that. Here is a freehand I've done and also two guys that I've painted along time ago. I have since finalized my painting "recipe" and have started using badab' black on all my guys. The recent tactical marines that I've done (and don't have images of) look much darker and grimier. My friends often made fun of my old paint jobs as they were too vibrant and red. At least I learned how to thin down paint and do even base coating early on:realsmug:

Yeah, I still can't believe how much better they look now compared to before. I kind of miss the whole aspect of everything being new to me though.

And yeah, don't mind you posting stuff. :downs: To be honest, I'm really interested to see what kind of stuff other people do Warhammer-wise on Modacity, since I know that a lot of people on here have it as a hobby. As long as everybody admits that Chaos Space Marines are better than everything else, then it's all good :downs:

Also, I'm gonna be starting a Tyranid army soon, just letting y'all know. And I'm also planning on getting a Chaos Warlord Titan sometime as well.

Hotrod
April 13th, 2011, 06:19 PM
Sorry for the double post, but it's update time again! Here's one guy I finished not too long ago who will be a part of a squad of three. I would show you guys the other two, but one of them isn't done being painted yet and has another small bit of modeling work to be done on him, and the last guy is still in the process of being modeled.

So, here he is, my first of three Chaos Obliterators!

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/3428/dsc01419yv.jpg

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/7051/dsc01417hz.jpg

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/7964/dsc01416u.jpg

You may be asking "Why didn't you just buy the regular Obliterator model?" Well, let me explain. First of all, I really hate the look of Obliterators, being the big fleshy ugly things they are. I'd rather have the look of a heavily armed/armoured badass with lots of weapons. Secondly, the models are metal, which is a pain in the ass to put together and the paint seems to peel off, even with primer. Thirdly, they cost 35$ each. I decided I'd rather spend 60$ on a Chaos Terminator kit, convert three of them into Obliterators, and use the last two as actual Terminators and then stick them with that old metal Terminator which was shown at the beginning of the thread, as well as a Chaos Terminator Lord (which I'll be getting soon I hope). In plus, it gives a bit more uniqueness to my army.

And before you ask, no, the other two Obliterators do not look the same as this one, though they do follow a similar design idea. I got some extra bitz from my Dark Angels friend, but I didn't want to go buy a second squad just to get some weapons, so keep in mind that I'm doing what I can with what I have.

I hope you've enjoyed this update, and don't forget that comments and criticism are appreciated!

TeeKup
April 14th, 2011, 01:26 AM
Alot of peopler at the local game shop (Above Board Games) prefer to do custom models, gives a lot of unique life to the armies being played. My friend matt does it with his nids. He turned a Carnifex into a giant bladed spider, twas intense.

Nice job on yours as well, never been a fan of chaos though.

n00b1n8R
April 14th, 2011, 02:28 AM
The thing about metal models IIRC is that they need a bit of a scrubb (small amount of soap/detergent and a soft toothbrush) to get the mold lube off them. That's what causes the peeling paint bullshit.

You've come a hell of a long way Hotrod, really pleased with the way these guys are going. I like the background for the blue dudes, I always like to see people mixing other elements into their DERP MARINES. ;)



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This elicited a low sexy growl out of me IRL. This one has potential ;)

RedBaron
April 14th, 2011, 02:45 AM
Thanks, that picture was actually taken last summer hahaha, I really have not been painting at all. But* just over the past month that dreadnought is about to be finished...

Hotrod
April 14th, 2011, 12:02 PM
Alot of peopler at the local game shop (Above Board Games) prefer to do custom models, gives a lot of unique life to the armies being played. My friend matt does it with his nids. He turned a Carnifex into a giant bladed spider, twas intense.

Nice job on yours as well, never been a fan of chaos though.
That's just another reason why I'm not a fan of regular Space Marines. All their infantry look pretty much the same with nothing to tell them apart, while CSM have a variety of different helmets, bodies, etc. to make them all look different.


The thing about metal models IIRC is that they need a bit of a scrubb (small amount of soap/detergent and a soft toothbrush) to get the mold lube off them. That's what causes the peeling paint bullshit.

You've come a hell of a long way Hotrod, really pleased with the way these guys are going. I like the background for the blue dudes, I always like to see people mixing other elements into their DERP MARINES. ;)
Thanks! I'm really glad to see how much better I'm doing now compared to before. As I was posting these updates, I took a look at the first pictures I posted back in August and man...huge difference. I'm also planning on getting a ForgeWorld Khorne Dreadnought and painting it in the same blue colour scheme as the termies, just to add a bit more contrast to the mass of red in my army.

And thanks for the tip for the metal models! I'll have to keep that in mind next time I get one, which will probably be soon with Kharn now that I think about it.

Warsaw
April 14th, 2011, 09:37 PM
Alot of peopler at the local game shop (Above Board Games) prefer to do custom models, gives a lot of unique life to the armies being played. My friend matt does it with his nids. He turned a Carnifex into a giant bladed spider, twas intense.

Nice job on yours as well, never been a fan of chaos though.

I just realised that there is a pistol in Mass Effect 2 called the Carnifex.

Mind = blown.

n00b1n8R
April 15th, 2011, 03:05 AM
I just realised that there is a pistol in Mass Effect 2 called the Carnifex.

Mind = blown.
Carnifex is Latin for "butcher".

Hotrod
April 15th, 2011, 11:50 AM
Isn't it also some sort of crab thing?

Rainbow Dash
April 15th, 2011, 03:58 PM
I'm ashamed to live in the same city as you

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Hotrod
April 15th, 2011, 08:10 PM
I'm ashamed to live in the same city as you

:[
As me?

Warsaw
April 15th, 2011, 09:25 PM
Carnifex is Latin for "butcher".

Heh, fitting on both counts.

I'm not familiar with Latin, so unless it sounds obviously Latin, I don't know what I'm looking at.

n00b1n8R
April 20th, 2011, 07:14 AM
I'm ashamed to live in the same city as you

:[
says the guy who tried to troll furies before becoming one himself :allears:

Pooky
April 20th, 2011, 10:46 AM
says the guy who tried to troll furies before becoming one himself :allears:

http://img821.imageshack.us/i/furies.jpg/http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/4483/furies.jpg

:confused2:

Nero
April 20th, 2011, 12:17 PM
Cool, 3 people from Ontario.

Hotrod
April 20th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Cool, 3 people from Ontario.
But is it three people from Ottawa?

And I just remembered that NVOUS = Sel = from Ottawa...yes, that took me a while :P

Oh, and I'll have a few more pictures up in about two hours :)

EDIT : Looks like that update will have to wait a bit, since both cameras in my house (my sister's and my mom's) seem to be out of batteries. I have no idea how to charge my mom's camera's battery (plugging it into a computer doesn't seem to work, and it's not any kind of battery I'm used to). And I don't seem to have any extra AA batteries at the moment for my sister's camera...ah well, looks like that update will have to wait...

RedBaron
May 16th, 2011, 01:06 PM
My finished dreadnought. If you're wondering why I glued a smoke launcher on the side of the lascannon, I imagined the canisters to be some sort of capacitors that store up energy before the cannon unleashes a shiny laser of death.

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Hotrod
May 16th, 2011, 02:49 PM
I was just thinking that I should really update this thread, but it looks like you've done it for me! Really nice Dreadnought though, I'm loving those capacitors you added onto the lascannon, it just makes it look even more awesome :)

I suppose I can give a small update while I'm here, thought unfortunately no pictures. I finished up my Obliterators, and I also ordered in Kharn and bought a Chaos Terminator Lord. Kharn has been done for a while, and has been very good to me during games. The Termie Lord is being painted at the moment, but he should be done by the time I get my hands on a camera to take some pics.

n00b1n8R
May 16th, 2011, 08:12 PM
Great dreadnaught, the electrified lasscannon looks really cool, never seen one done like that before.
Rich reds, clean highlights, solid colours, detailed base, a tick in every box for me ;)

(I think the scything talon is a bit much though :P)

Hotrod
May 16th, 2011, 08:30 PM
...detailed base...)
I sense a bit of finger pointing here :P

n00b1n8R
May 16th, 2011, 09:03 PM
I sense a bit of finger pointing here :P
Not at you specifically, more at 99% of people in this hobby :P

RedBaron
May 16th, 2011, 11:31 PM
Thanks for the comments guys, it'll be a while till I get my next units done, I'll be away for a month or so.

TVTyrant
October 29th, 2013, 04:33 PM
Bumpin this thread because it has cool stuffs