Tournament starting early December, need more participants!

[n00b1n8R]

I assume everyone here can access the US server (or is that only SEA players?). If so, we should get a ladder going. I'd be interested to see how other meta's affect people's play styles and how good the people here really are.

bronze reppin~

update: PM me your b.net ID's if you want to enter.

[Llama Juice]

Bronze for LIEF.

The ladder system is so broken... so very very broken.

I'm bronze 3v3 and so we get paired up against diamond and platinum level players. It's great.

Anyhow, I'm game for it.

[n00b1n8R]

I don't imagine 3v3 is a very popular format, that probably has something to do with it :P

[Dwood]

I'd play.

[Llama Juice]

How about 4V4? We literally just went through our placement matches and ended up getting placed in Silver... just to go up against all plat/diamond.

It's great.

[Bodzilla]

1v1 reppin

(me and sel make a mad 2v2 team :P)

[n00b1n8R]

Can't play more than a 2v2 properly because my computer can't handle the mid-game armies~

[Llama Juice]

@Noob, just don't get a mothrship and make sure you push a LOT haha. Keep army size down.

Also, make sure your settings are set to the lowest on everything.

Then just don't watch the fight, just do everything from the mini map. Yup.

[Siliconmaster]

(Posted for Inferno)


Representing all gold (and 1 high silver :P)

[n00b1n8R]

Then just don't watch the fight, just do everything from the mini map. Yup.
but micro D:

[Llama Juice]

Psh, micro is for losers.

[Phobias]

Psh, micro is for losers.

That explains why Fauxer is dominating the GSL right now with nothing but marine rushes.

[n00b1n8R]

That explains why Fauxer is dominating the GSL right now with nothing but marine rushes.
nerf terran, buff protoss~

[Bodzilla]

Toss is honestly fine.

you guys need to learn to use DT's more.
you've got stalkers colossus and voids down pat but nobody likes DT's, even though the damage they do is insane. Just remember to use your meat shields and punish people in a game were detection is underrated. They're as good as banelings tbqh.

[Sel]

1v1 reppin

(me and sel make a mad 2v2 team :P)

1v1 plat reportin in

down for 2v2 me and bod tourney, or 1v1s


Toss is honestly fine.

you guys need to learn to use DT's more.
you've got stalkers colossus and voids down pat but nobody likes DT's, even though the damage they do is insane. Just remember to use your meat shields and punish people in a game were detection is underrated. They're as good as banelings tbqh.

Uhm marauders and roaches counter all toss gateway units, zerglings beat stalkers no problem, and marines walk all over zealots if you bother to micro them. Toss is definitely not fine!

Voids got nerfed, and are shitty even when charged now. Collosi require a 200/200 upgrade to even be viable, and that comes incredibly late game. Dark templars are a huge investment that get countered by terran's on demand scans, and zerg's easy detection. Only worth shit vs toss who have pathetic detection.

[Bodzilla]

well yeah thats all true, i just dunno how you'd buff toss without putting zerg at a disadvantage at the same time :/

voids i think need to go aout half way back to where they were. as they where before a handful of charged voids and it was pretty much lights out for anyone, but they do need to be stronger for their cost. so maybe increase their health and shields but keep damage the same? atm their a bit of a glass cannon.

I still think they'res improvements to made in the standard colossus, stalker zealot push by adding a few Dt's into the mix. because if you get them to engage your stalkers first similar to how zerg use they're roaches for meatsheilds you could slice through them.

DT's on it's own is pointless because of the reasons you said but i still think they're insane DPS has a place in the toss army.

[n00b1n8R]

Zerg is the most powerful race right now mate, hth.
Also the think about saying "toss needs to use more DT's" is that they require a HUGE investment in both time and resources to get, let alone produce.

also
PM me if you're serious about this tournament and I'll set up a ladder. Best of 3 sound good to everyone?

[Bodzilla]

derpalerp

i have no doubt zerg is the strongest race atm, but i still stand bye my comment that the macro that you have to do is much harder then other races. therefore it's balanced. Queen timing, the complete lack of air defense early or any cloaked units (banelings
When you can do things like warp in units as fast as zerg

[Llama Juice]

Where zerg lacks cloaked units they can burrow and hide. Plus, mutas are OP.

Queens are air defense! lol Just mass queens.

[n00b1n8R]

I beat about 20 queens transfusing like fuck with 6 carriers yesterday.

Also, read the thread title and PM me your details if you're serious about the tourny!

[Dwood]

I'mma just post it here: Dwood, friend code 570.

[Bodzilla]

Where zerg lacks cloaked units they can burrow and hide. Plus, mutas are OP.

Queens are air defense! lol Just mass queens.
Mutas??? OP? lmfao.

they're worth 100 mins and 100 gas and on their own they do fuck all.


you have to spend about 1500/1500 minerals before they get to the aggressive force that people winge about.
They're a massively expensive unit in mass. just do shit like harrass the zerg and put pressure on them without letting them dump so much money into them.

[Llama Juice]

Most of the time when I harass them when they have mutas it ends up in a base trade.... and then I still have to try to fight the mutas.

Also, damn near every unit by itself is worthless. Mutas can just poke into a base, fuck up a handful of workers and pop out so damn fast that it's not even funny. The only "practical" solution is to drop 94 turrets or turtle against mutas and then they can expand like crazy and starve you so you lose.

100/100 isn't that expensive sir. Especially when Zerg is encouraged to expand like mad.

Everyone says the solution to Mutas is stimmed marines, which then the mutas just run away and then come back right about when Stim wears off... so you have to stim again... rinse repeat until the 'rines are stimmed to death. Medvacs can only do so much haha.

E: Also, I'm LlamaJuice Code: 657

[Bodzilla]

your sweat terran tears enlarges my manhood.

You mean zerg have a harrass unit??? as opposed to the reaper, banshee and hellions that terrans have.

[n00b1n8R]

It's like your T key is broken or something zilla :S

[Dwood]

Especially when Zerg is encouraged to expand like mad.


E: Also, I'm LlamaJuice Code: 657

Zerg absolutely HAS to expand or they're dead.... Kill a zerg's expand and it's over for that player because not only do they lose income, they lose production...

[Llama Juice]

Yea, banshees are awesome.

Unless you have Mutas. Then Banshees lose. Because Mutas are OP.

Reapers are nerfed hard enough now that they are pretty much worthless units and they're countered by anything other than drones, and Hellions are countered by anything other than lings/drones.

Plus, lings.. if you go 6 pool on a small enough map your lings will get to my base before it's literally possible to get one marine out.... and that's only useful if I've managed to get my wall up.

[Bodzilla]

because i'm totally not at a huge mineral disadvantage at that time by going for a 6 pool, and that there is no way in hell an SCV can beat off 6 lings.

>_<

if 6 pool works against you ur doing it wrong

[Dwood]

press the "a" key and move your scvs to make them attack.

[Llama Juice]

Which then puts me at a massive economy disadvantage.

Lings are OP. Nerf lings.

[Phobias]

Which then puts me at a massive economy disadvantage.

Lings are OP. Nerf lings.

Either learn how to play your race or stop bitching about a basic part of TvZ; there will be lings and your mineral line is going to have the occassional fly-by, put 1 missile turret in each mineral patch and make more seige tanks/microrines.

[Llama Juice]

Nope, just nerf zerg and buff Terran.

Everything was fine before the reaper nerf patch.

[Dwood]

Nope, just nerf zerg and buff Terran.

Everything was fine before the reaper nerf patch.

loal reapernub.

[Llama Juice]

REAPERS USED TO BE THE BEST UNIT EVER!

Now're they're damn near extinct. Whenever I see reapers now i just lol at them.

Silly reapers.

Plus Blizzards attempts at trying to nerf reapers ended up making them delay the production of all units aside from SCVs by terran.. which is why now 6 pool is SUPER EFFECTIVE.

All trolling aside...

The only cost effective way I've found to push off a 6 pool is if the map is big enough to where I can drop a supply depot, barracks, and bunker... to wall off my ramp... and then grab an SCV or two to repair the structures while my one marine is trying to kill off all the 'lings.

[Phobias]

Nope, just nerf zerg and buff Terran.

Everything was fine before the reaper nerf patch.

Oh shit, you think there might be a reason Terran got nerfed and Zerg got buffed? I think so skippy! Blizzard hate Terran. No, wait that can't be right because Terran were the most overpowered race for a good amount of time (read since release).

6 pool; you die you deserve to die. 6 pool is like the reaper rushes Terran used to pull off, very effective if the enemy is a retard.

[Dwood]

6 pool only works if you send your drones into the battle too, making it 100% all in.

[Sel]

can we stop with the balance posts from people who are a) bronze 1v1 b) play modes besides 1v1

[n00b1n8R]

THIS ISN'T DEAD!
I've just been fucking busy the last few weeks. Semester is over and I've had a week to vedge so lets get this moving.

So far we have:
n00b1n8R
Bodzilla
Selentic
Llama Juice
Dwood
Inferno
Phobias (?)

Anybody else? This should be starting within the next week or two. I'd just like to leave it open for a few more days to get more players.

Also, what sort of system do we want? Best of 3, best of 5 semi's and best of 7 final? Spectators aloud? Map-pool/voting system?

[Bodzilla]

your the ump, you work it out nub.

(7 matches jesus christ i dont think we're that good mate.)

[n00b1n8R]

Best of 3 for all, Best of 5 for finals.

Any map pool goes, discuss it with your opponent. As long as you're both happy (play all 3 on the same map if you like).
Post replays ITT (unless you want to keep them private, then pm me) after the games.

Also, bug your friends/other modacity guys, lets get atleast 8 people in this.
For matches, do we want fixed ladders like GSL or shall I just draw names out of a hat for each round?

[Phobias]

THIS ISN'T DEAD!

Phobias (?)


I'll have to go with no. I can't set a time on anything right now, busy with other crap.