GFX card

[§partan 8]

I think my gfx card died after 3 years of service. It's a 8800 gts oc. I tried plugging it in two different screens and two different cables (DVI/VGA) and is just says no signal. I want to buy an ATI card that's beter then the 8800 but around or under $130. My cousin told me the 4770 was better but I'm not sure. I also heard ATI has glitches with their cards. I want to hear from you ATI owners if it's worth getting an ATI card and if you had any problems. And which card would be good for my price range. Thank you and yes I know ATI and AMD are one.


Also how good is the 5770? I saw it for $153 new I might get that.

[Aerowyn]

I had an ATI card, hated it. It couldn't even handle Counter Strike: Source on LOW settings without having a card-related crash every hour or so.

I now have a GeForce 9800 GTX, love it.

[Warsaw]

I think my gfx card died after 3 years of service. It's a 8800 gts oc. I tried plugging it in two different screens and two different cables (DVI/VGA) and is just says no signal. I want to buy an ATI card that's beter then the 8800 but around or under $130. My cousin told me the 4770 was better but I'm not sure. I also heard ATI has glitches with their cards. I want to hear from you ATI owners if it's worth getting an ATI card and if you had any problems. And which card would be good for my price range. Thank you and yes I know ATI and AMD are one.

Also how good is the 5770? I saw it for $153 new I might get that.

I have one. It's been great. Handles everything I've thrown at it on maximum settings including STALKER: Call of Pripyat. However, my max res is 1280x1024. If you intend to play above 1680x1050, I suggest something with a little more oomph and a 256-bit memory bus.

Aerowyn, sounds like you got a lemon.

[Amit]

Aerowyn's a known ATi hater. Don't listen to her. She should have RMA'd her card.

Get this: Sapphire HD 5770 Vapor-X - $144.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102898) Problem solved. Enjoy overclocking that bad boy. I managed to bring my 5750 Vapor-X up to 5770 Vapor-X speeds. Just imagine what you can do with the 5770.

[Warsaw]

Bring it up to 4890 speeds, at best outlook. Still limited by the 128-bit memory bus width. At high resolutions, it won't matter how fast your card is, that bandwidth is choked.

[Amit]

While that may be true, according to his system specs, his monitor's native resolution is 1440 x 900. He won't need a 256-bit GPU.

[§partan 8]

Aerowyn's a known ATi hater. Don't listen to her. She should have RMA'd her card.

Get this: Sapphire HD 5770 Vapor-X - $144.99 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102898) Problem solved. Enjoy overclocking that bad boy. I managed to bring my 5750 Vapor-X up to 5770 Vapor-X speeds. Just imagine what you can do with the 5770.

I think I'll actually get that one. Just a couple of things. Will it work with my quad core q6600. And 4gigs of ram and will it fit in a mid tower case?

[Warsaw]

Yes on all counts.

[§partan 8]

While that may be true, according to his system specs, his monitor's native resolution is 1440 x 900. He won't need a 256-bit GPU.

Right now I have it hooked up to at 720p HDTV. 32". Later when I get money I will get a 32" 1080p

[§partan 8]

Sorry my phone is being gay. Posted this twice

[Warsaw]

Right now I have it hooked up to at 720p HDTV. 32". Later when I get money I will get a 32" 1080p

If you don't want to have to buy a graphics card again, get something with a 256-bit bus. 1080p will choke out the 5770. 720p won't, since that's actually less pixels than 1440x900 and 1280x1024.

[Aerowyn]

Aerowyn's a known ATi hater. Don't listen to her.

He asked for opinions of people that have/had ATI cards. I had one and it was shit. I'm not a "hater," they just don't do it for me. Every computer my mom has built (yes, my mom) has had an ATI card in it and they've all been completely incapable of running games at mid/low settings.

I got a different brand of graphics card and suddenly I can play games on high without the game crashing after every map, or overheating and resetting the computer after an hour of play.

Opinion is valid. :P

[annihilation]

Not really. Your video card is not the only thing that defines how well a game will run. For all we know you could have a shitty processor or an extremely low end ATI card since most ATI cards are capable of running most modern games on medium or high.

[Warsaw]

I'd like to know which cards those computers have all been running, too. A Radeon 7000 is not game material. Neither is a Radeon 9200, or an X500. And then anything in the HD series cards below HDx650 is also not gaming material.

[Amit]

Hmm, you may want to consider an HD 5830 or GTX 460 if you're gonna be playing at 1080p then.

[Warsaw]

And if you do get a GTX 460, try and snag an eVGA FTW Edition.

[Amit]

He asked for opinions of people that have/had ATI cards. I had one and it was shit. I'm not a "hater," they just don't do it for me. Every computer my mom has built (yes, my mom) has had an ATI card in it and they've all been completely incapable of running games at mid/low settings.

I got a different brand of graphics card and suddenly I can play games on high without the game crashing after every map, or overheating and resetting the computer after an hour of play.

Opinion is valid. :P

It is preposterous to claim that changing the brand instantly made games playable. You continue to fail to specify the model numbers of these video cards. A Radeon X1600 PRO can run all Source engine games at very high settings. I'm curious to which cards you consider gaming material. Nothing personal against you, though.

EDIT: Warsaw beat me there.

[NullZero]

I mean seriously, I was going to spout out a "you're doing it wrong" on a whim, but you really are doing wrong.

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[Rook]

He asked for opinions of people that have/had ATI cards. I had one and it was shit. I'm not a "hater," they just don't do it for me. Every computer my mom has built (yes, my mom) has had an ATI card in it and they've all been completely incapable of running games at mid/low settings.

I got a different brand of graphics card and suddenly I can play games on high without the game crashing after every map, or overheating and resetting the computer after an hour of play.

Opinion is valid. :P
Although yeah you had a problem that was an issue of the card manufacturer having a bad card that you happened to get. It could have happened for either ATi/NVidia. Also are you comparing cards in the same range? Say ati x1200 vs nvidia 9800 would just be ridiculous.


A Radeon X1600 PRO can run all Source engine games at very high settings..
lolno

[Warsaw]

^ Yes it can. X1600 was better than the GeForce 6600 GT, and my 6600 GT ran all Source games on maximum settings. It all boils down to what resolution you are playing at. At the typical 1280x1024 resolution of the time, it was very good.

[Amit]

lolno

lol yes. I still have a Pentium 4 3.0Ghz HT running with the X1600 PRO at 1680x1050 and I can assure you that it does play ALL source games at the highest settings (4x AA and 16x AF) with a smooth frame rate. On TF2 there may be a hitch or two during a particularly intense firefight, but I don't experience lags due to hardware limitations in the Source engine on that computer.

EDIT: I completely forgot about the HD 6000 series. You should get an HD 6850 if you're planning for large screen gaming. It's cheaper than the GTX 460 and the HD 5850, but still performs nicely compared to them.

[Abdurahman]

With my dual 4850s in crossfire, 4 gigs of super low timing ddr3, and phenom II x3, i can max out bfbc2 at 1440x900 with 4xaa. life is good :-)

[Warsaw]

I max out BC2 on DX11 at 1280x1024 with only one HD5770. The game is not that demanding, which is amazing considering how good it looks. The one positive thing to come out of console domination is developers learning how to optimise their game's performance very, very well.

Also, I second the 6850. Newegg has some sweet deals on them right now. You can get a Crossfire pair in a combo for $350, or you can get one 6850 and three 22" 1680x1050 monitors with adapters in a combo for $720. Strangely, a similar combo with a single 6870 and three 21" 1080p monitors costs ~$90 less.

[Cortexian]

With 4 gigs of ram, I hope you're running a 64-bit OS or you're going to run into the system limit of 4GB on 32-bit. This will make some of your RAM useless.

[Warsaw]

Me? Shit, I forgot to edit that. Running Windows 7 Pro 64-bit.

[annihilation]

. It's cheaper than the GTX 460 and the HD 5850, but still performs nicely compared to them.

On what website/store?

[Amit]

On what website/store?

Guru3D (http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-6850-6870-review/14) has some nice benchmarks of the HD 6850. It actually outperforms the GTX 460 (768mb and 1GB) at 1920x1080 and is still on the 5850's tail.

Btw, scroll down to the bar graphs to see the full list of GPU scores in games such as BC2 and Crysis Warhead. Check out bit-tech.net's review too. It shows the same kind of results.

[annihilation]

Actually I was talking about the price. lol

[Amit]

Oh, sorry lol. Well on Newegg the HD 6850s are roughly $20-$30 cheaper than the GTX 460 1GB variants and around $10 cheaper than the 460 768MB variants.

HD 6850 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600083901%20600083830&IsNodeId=1&bop=And&Order=RATING&PageSize=20)

GTX 460 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007709%20600007323%20600062521&IsNodeId=1&name=GeForce%20GTX%20460%20(Fermi))