Battlefield Tri-hard

[Mr Buckshot]

Knowing how much less damage explosives do to infantry, that wasn't surprising at all. Exploding vehicles/explosive attacks that would almost certainly be fatal in BC2, tend to do maybe 70 damage tops now. Pretty annoying when I initially lacked a driver controlled machine gun on the tank, which meant it was damned hard to kill infantry as they would regain much of their health by the time I reloaded.

I swear, I once crashed a low-health helicopter straight into a player, and possibly due to lag he wasn't even scratched, even though he should have been obliterated in a fiery explosion.

[Amit]

I dunno about you guys, but I always switch to the coaxial LMG when dealing with infantry. Unless there's a way for my to splash damage them or if they're in a build, I don't use the main canon.

[cheezdue]

I dunno about you guys, but I always switch to the coaxial LMG when dealing with infantry. Unless there's a way for my to splash damage them or if they're in a build, I don't use the main canon.

Same here as well. Also, does anyone know what's causing this? I starting to get this a lot now and it's only with BF3. :/


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/cheezdue/bf3_2011_12_13_20_20_00_866.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/cheezdue/bf3_2011_11_26_00_32_46_641.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk122/cheezdue/bf3_2011_11_26_00_33_24_849.jpg

[Donut]

if its been gradually getting worse, it might by your graphics card dying or something. has it been getting hotter than usual? i had an issue similar to this with halo ce back on this POS laptop from 2003.

[Amit]

Holy shit :lmao:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mmWj2p0J7UY

[StankBacon]

rofl that's nuts

[ExAm]

Cheez, are you running a GTX 560 Ti?

[cheezdue]

Nope, it's a GTX 560 superclocked card. I've searched around for a bit and notice it usually happens with the 560s. I doubt my card could be over heating because I got those artifacts at 56 degrees celcius. Maybe it could just be a driver bug.

[ExAm]

Underclock the core and video memory to stock 560 levels, see if that helps some.

[Nero]

Haha, I was waiting on the guy to snipe the guy in the Jet or something...

[cheezdue]

Underclock the core and video memory to stock 560 levels, see if that helps some.

So far that seemed to fix my problem thanks! Also I was playing with The Halo Don and MXC. I took this screenie of Don kissing the wall.
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[Warsaw]

Is yours an EVGA card?

[cheezdue]

Yeah I forgot to mention that.

[Donut]

is there an issue with EVGA gtx 560 tis?

[Warsaw]

I don't know if there is an issue with EVGA 560 Tis, but I do know that, historically, their "superclocked" and "OC" models have had reliability issues. They push them too far at the factory, so you get artifacting and even DirectX shutdowns because of it. My EVGA 7800 GT is an "OC Copper" model, and it demonstrates the exact same behaviour that you are experiencing with your GTX 560. The card works just fine once you pull it back down to normal levels, but it's irritating to pay that $10-$20 premium and not get to use it.

[Cortexian]

I've never heard of many SuperClocked models having issues, the SuperSuperClocked (SSC) and FTW editions are pretty prone to stuff like that though. I only ever recommend those cards to people who are going to put them under water.

[Warsaw]

Well, there was a time when there was only OC, then they added SC, then it was SSC. So there have always been issues, just not as many tiers.

[ExAm]

is there an issue with EVGA gtx 560 tis?560 Tis in general.

[Cortexian]

iccLdoMBlQo

*THUD*

[Cortexian]

Zo5-XpQ5Jkk

[BobtheGreatII]

Lol. Saw this when Freddie W uploaded it. That's hilarious.

[{XG}Gijs007]

I just bought a battlefield 3 server with 24 slots: http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/servers/show/0c8ea026-f895-48e9-ad09-af288176fb29

[Amit]

Have any of you tried using the Javelin while in a transport helicopter? I was in a Gulf of Oman server doing this and got my first 3 kills. It was epic. I only started recording after I got the kills, though. I didn't think it'd even work. One shot, 3 kills, LAV down :D.

[ThePlague]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLwgyhgQofc&hd=1
Teamwork at its finest :)

[Warsaw]

I'm such a shotgun whore in this game. Buckshot is so incredibly OP.

[TeeKup]

^ M1014 Supremacy.

[Warsaw]

That's unnecessary. The M870 alone is an incredible gun. Jut slap on the extended tube magazine, EOTech, and your choice of ammunition, and you will demolish entire teams.

One word: Metro.

[ThePlague]

MP443 Tactical Supremacy.

[Cortexian]

.44 Scoped Supremacy.

[Amit]

G18 full-auto supremacy. No other weapon can compete when you're in humping distance of your enemy.

[Pooky]

MW3 Supremacy

[TeeKup]

That's unnecessary. The M870 alone is an incredible gun. Jut slap on the extended tube magazine, EOTech, and your choice of ammunition, and you will demolish entire teams.

One word: Metro.

I hate Metro and damn near refuse to play it, and I've grown bored with the 870.

[Cortexian]

usas is best shotgun

[Amit]

I hate Metro and damn near refuse to play it, and I've grown bored with the 870.

Pretty much same for me. Sometimes I'll just jump in for the RUSH, but I only ever put my through conquest on that map when I'm trying to exploit the revive system (did it once like a month ago).


MW3 Supremacy

I see what you did thar.

Oh, and I didn't think there was a good map for easy sniping, but Strike at Karkand takes that spot.

This is pretty much how I see maps in BF3:

Easy Gun Lvling - Grand Bazaar
Easy Sniping - Strike at Karkand
Easy SOFLAM - Gulf of Oman
Easy Armour Whoring - Operation Firestorm
Easy Points - Operation Metro
Easy RUSH Defence - Seine Crossing
Easy Mortaring - Every Map

[TeeKup]

usas is best shotgun

Still haven't gotten it yet. Picked one up in a random match and utterly destroyed with it. Thing is goddamn terrifying.

EDIT: Also I REALLY like the AEK-971. Its rate of fire is so orgasmic. First time I pulled the trigger I killed like 3 people all at once, was just so satisfying.

[Amit]

EDIT: Also I REALLY like the AEK-971. Its rate of fire is so orgasmic. First time I pulled the trigger I killed like 3 people all at once, was just so satisfying.

Yeah. Same. I didn't realize how many people used it until after I started using it. I put a silencer on mine recently, though, and that definitely affects its range and accuracy more than other weapons. Without the silencer, you can get multiple people at range with two bursts (maybe one on hardcore). With the silencer on, you gotta constantly aim high and ahead of where they are running. Oh well, it's better than getting spotted on the mini-map. AEK-971 rapes on Grand Bazaar, people just can't compete with the ROF that bad boy has.

[ThePlague]

Except with people using the FAMAS. It has a higher ROF, and with the Foregrip on it it's an absolute beast. I do love the AEK though, one of my favorites.

[Amit]

Oh yeah, I definitely agree. Demize99 stated a day or two ago that the foregrip is getting nerfed, though. The accuracy is off the hook on that thing. The FAMAS isn't as well rounded as the AEK because it just doesn't have the same range. And is anyone else annoyed with the long ass ranged scopes that come with the assignment weapons? It's not so bad on the L85 since that is a long range assault rifle anyways, but the first time I decided to use the HK53, I had like a 7x scope attached. I assume the iron sights are the default, but I was wrong. Oh well, I survived a good long time in one life with that scope on before changing it out haha. Oh well, I unlocked the RDS really quick, so it doesn't matter now.

[Warsaw]

usas is best shotgun

No.

Jackhammer > USAS

I don't actively seek out Metro, it's just part of the map rotation. I still prefer Kharg Island and Canals.

[Cortexian]

The Jackhammer is terrible lol. It's like the 1014.

[Nero]

I literally only play Metro... haha.

[Warsaw]

The Jackhammer is terrible lol. It's like the 1014.

No such thing as a terrible gun in BF at all. Only over-powered ones.

Any shotgun will rape on any map. Even on Kharg and Caspian. The automatic fire is basically a gimmick when your gun is a one-hit kill, easy-accuracy weapon.

[Cortexian]

No I mean the Jackhammer is worse than the USAS-12. It doesn't fire as fast or something, I'm not nearly as effective with it as I am with the USAS.

[=sw=warlord]

Ugh.
So far I've not managed a single round.
So far I've got two main problems, the game runs in Russian even with everything in place, registry looks for English, got the English files in place.
The other issue is random freezes or crashes, I might be grabbing someones dogtags or randomly walking and suddenly the game decides to take a dump.
I've updated cleared the drivers and put latest ones on, got all windows updates, obviously the game is updated.

Specs are:
AMD Phenom X4@2.6ghz
4Gb DDR2
XFX HD4850 1024Mb
Window Vista 32X [Forget trying to convince me going win7 been there done that got the aging hair line]

Nothing is showing in the event logger so I can't go from there, I would lower settings but I don't read Russian.

[Cortexian]

Okay so here's your problem:
You tried to cheat the system by purchasing the game from an online site selling keys for cheap. That key was for the Russian version of the game. This is entirely your fault, if you had just done everything properly then there wouldn't of been a problem!

Just saying. I kinda hate all the people out there complaining that their Russian version isn't working in English :ohdear:

[Amit]

Ugh.
So far I've got two main problems, the game runs in Russian even with everything in place, registry looks for English, got the English files in place.

Try deleting the Russian language files just in case they are somehow being used instead. Also, search /r/Battlefield3 on Reddit to find the latest Russian-to-English patch files. My guess is that is the reason your game doesn't use English.


Okay so here's your problem:
You tried to cheat the system by purchasing the game from an online site selling keys for cheap. That key was for the Russian version of the game. This is entirely your fault, if you had just done everything properly then there wouldn't of been a problem!

Just saying. I kinda hate all the people out there complaining that their Russian version isn't working in English :ohdear:

Get out (not really). I know you mean well, but your post is just all kinds of wrong. Your game should work no matter what way you purchased it, as long as it was legal. And the way he did it was legal. My Russian Extended Edition works perfectly in English. I did everything wrong according to you and still I ended up with every pre-order bonus available on the planet applied to my account for $20 less than what you paid on Origin.

[Cortexian]

You cannot buy a Russian version by any legitimate means in North America, therefore your argument is invalid.

Legitimate means:
1. Origin Store.
2. Physical Cop.

What you did is indeed wrong, and IMO anyone with an incorrect region version on their account should have it removed by EA. You cheated the system to save money, which is not something EA intended to have happen.

[Amit]

What are you gonna do? Report us? Some guy from Reddit even had EA change his RU version to a North American version when he ran into troubles like Warlord did. Hell, people on the Battlelog Forums have asked EA reps multiple times if they can buy RU versions and have been given the okay. Regardless of what EA had intended to have happened, they have not made it illegal to purchase a game from a different country. Otherwise they would be losing sales from people who live in temporary locations, such as people on long term deployment not being able to buy the game. You'd also think that they would restrict keys from a different region from being redeemed on a North American Origin account. Oh, but that's right, the game is region-free for a reason.

[Warsaw]

I only cared about Karkand and the Physical Warfare early access...tags be damned.

[Cortexian]

What are you gonna do? Report us? Some guy from Reddit even had EA change his RU version to a North American version when he ran into troubles like Warlord did. Hell, people on the Battlelog Forums have asked EA reps multiple times if they can buy RU versions and have been given the okay. Regardless of what EA had intended to have happened, they have not made it illegal to purchase a game from a different country. Otherwise they would be losing sales from people who live in temporary locations, such as people on long term deployment not being able to buy the game. You'd also think that they would restrict keys from a different region from being redeemed on a North American Origin account. Oh, but that's right, the game is region-free for a reason.
Again, EA didn't intend to allow a region-free platform. The problem is that they're fucking retarded and didn't actually CHECK region key activation in Origin. If they could have made it illegal to purchase the game in a region other than the one you are occupying they probably would have, albeit with a few limited region changes (like on DVD and Blu-ray drives) in case people move as you say.

Anyway, back to how awesome this game is; I went 93-29 in this game:
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/13319985/1/210912874/
Award Score - 24800
Squad Score - 1250
Objective Score - 1680
General Score - 10544
Unlock Score - 600
http://battlelog-cdn.battlefield.com/public/profile/bf3/kit-icon-assault.png?v=3173239 Assault Score - 15694
Bonus Score - 2220
Combat Score - 15694
Total Score - 41094

I have the entire thing recorded with Fraps, a friend (Xeronian) and I were on COMM's the whole time and it was a BLAST. I have some of the highlights uploading to YouTube in montage form, I may upload the entire thing later.

[Cortexian]

Here are the vids:
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[=sw=warlord]

This discussion belongs in this thread, is perfectly legitimate and breaks none of the forum ToS.
I'll point this out:

A: My copy is a boxed copy of Russian edition BF3 [a gift from a friend who was an exchange student].
B: I've taken required steps to ensure English files are working.
C: no other software on this system crashes, locks, freezes or crash to desktop.
D: Language of software should have no bearing on the ability to run on a system, the only thing that should make any difference is whether the user can understand said language.

As such, is there any possibility that the problem could be related to temporary caches?
I recall something a while back where people would have troubles in guerrilla where they would edit tags and for some reason said tag edits would save due to multiple copies?
I'm wondering if this could also be a cause of the language being a mixture between English and Russian.

[Cortexian]

Yes, what you're describing has been happening to a few people from what I've read on other sites. The problem stems from using one versions files with another and expecting it to work correctly.

Again, if the game had been INTENDED to work that way there wouldn't be any issues. I don't know of a solution, and my entire peeve is simply that there are a bunch of people out there expecting something to work that should obviously look incompatible. My peeve is specifically when they complain on and on that it should work.

Deal with it, it doesn't right now.

[=sw=warlord]

Yes, what you're describing has been happening to a few people from what I've read on other sites. The problem stems from using one versions files with another and expecting it to work correctly.
This error has arisen before I even began using the other files, I only began to even attempt to run it in English after trying to run it in Russian so there goes that theory.
Again, if the game had been INTENDED to work that way there wouldn't be any issues. I don't know of a solution, and my entire peeve is simply that there are a bunch of people out there expecting something to work that should obviously look incompatible. My peeve is specifically when they complain on and on that it should work.

Deal with it, it doesn't right now.
The game was intended to run in Russian, it currently does not run in Russian at all let alone in English, The language of the software should not affect it's ability to run on a system.

[Cortexian]

All I've seen in your OP was that your game takes a dump. That's not a whole lot to go on is it? You didn't detail what you did/didn't do to fix the problem in ANY of your posts that I can see (believe me I looked, even through the ones I deleted).

Based on the information you have provided, the only conclusion ANYONE could come to is that it's a problem with the game and your system, your system specifically.

[=sw=warlord]

All I've seen in your OP was that your game takes a dump. That's not a whole lot to go on is it? You didn't detail what you did/didn't do to fix the problem in ANY of your posts that I can see (believe me I looked, even through the ones I deleted).

Based on the information you have provided, the only conclusion ANYONE could come to is that it's a problem with the game and your system, your system specifically.
Oh is that right?


I wish I could play this game, for one reason or another within seconds or minutes of having the game loaded it crashes to desktop with the error "this application has stopped responding".
No overclocking, no cooling issues, reasonably fresh install of windows.

I did have win7 x64 month or so ago and got tired of some of the bullshit in it and returned back to vista.
...
Also, yes I am using 11.11 for ATI.



I've updated cleared the drivers and put latest ones on, got all windows updates, obviously the game is updated.

Specs are:
AMD Phenom X4@2.6ghz
4Gb DDR2
XFX HD4850 1024Mb
Window Vista 32X [Forget trying to convince me going win7 been there done that got the aging hair line]

Nothing is showing in the event logger so I can't go from there,

I would quote more but seeing as you deleted a few of my posts, I cannot.

[Nero]

Hey freelancer, what is the song in the first video?

[Cortexian]

Hey freelancer, what is the song in the first video?
White Stripes - Seven Nation Army remix by The Glitch Mob.

[Amit]

Warlord, just redownload the whole game again and then extract the latest Russian to English fix (http://www.2shared.com/file/OFjf77P-/BF3_Dec6.html) into the BF3 folder. That should be it. I don't know if you need the regular English files, though. You probably do, but give this a shot first and see.

[Nero]

So like in Freelancer's videos above, I agree with his assesment. The AEK 971 is a complete beast!
The other team wasn't half bad either, but this weapon was no match for them. :p
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/13488204/1/193993433/

[=sw=warlord]

Warlord, just redownload the whole game again and then extract the latest Russian to English fix (http://www.2shared.com/file/OFjf77P-/BF3_Dec6.html) into the BF3 folder. That should be it. I don't know if you need the regular English files, though. You probably do, but give this a shot first and see.
I've re-installed 3 times so far.
both disk and digital.

[Amit]

Downloading is the better option since it includes the patches already. Alright, so once you have your clean install, use this (http://www.cjs-cdkeys.com/battlefield-3-origin/bf3lang.html) guide to get the English files installed and activated along with patching the game. Remember, when you get to step 3, only use ONE of the methods. It's the exact same guide I used to change my game to English, so if it doesn't work you're missing a step or your computer is seriously borked (well, if you're using Vista, your computer is borked by default).

[=sw=warlord]

Ugh, EA tech are terrible.
you:so far I've taken every step up to the point of flashing my Bios with the latest revision
you:i've done several re-downloads from origin, a fresh format and install of windows
you:enabled DEP, cleared winsocks and flushed the DNS
you:would me giving you the info i've found in event viewer help at all?
Jitendra:All right.
you:Faulting application bf3.exe, version 1.0.0.0, time stamp 0x4ece50fa, faulting module bf3.exe, version 1.0.0.0, time stamp 0x4ece50fa, exception code 0xc000001d, fault offset 0x007af353, process id 0xf8c, application start time 0x01cccb250a0d7151.
Jitendra:All right.
Jitendra:I can understand your anxiousness with this, had I been in your place I would have reacted in the same way.
Jitendra:Which platform (Xbox 360, PC, PS3) are you playing the game on?
you:i'm on pc
Here's what I've found in the event viewer.


Faulting application bf3.exe, version 1.0.0.0, time stamp 0x4ece50fa, faulting module bf3.exe, version 1.0.0.0, time stamp 0x4ece50fa, exception code 0xc000001d, fault offset 0x007af353, process id 0xf8c, application start time 0x01cccb250a0d7151.

[Cortexian]

you:Faulting application bf3.exe, version 1.0.0.0, time stamp 0x4ece50fa, faulting module bf3.exe, version 1.0.0.0, time stamp 0x4ece50fa, exception code 0xc000001d, fault offset 0x007af353, process id 0xf8c, application start time 0x01cccb250a0d7151.
Jitendra:Which platform (Xbox 360, PC, PS3) are you playing the game on?
/facepalm

[ThePlague]

That's because EA aren't the ones who created the game, that's why tech support is useless with them. They're only useful for changing your ingame name or simple things like veteran status.

[Cortexian]

Well, the tech support likely isn't even actually EA. It's probably a contracted customer service company.

[Warsaw]

That's because EA aren't the ones who created the game, that's why tech support is useless with them. They're only useful for changing your ingame name or simple things like veteran status.

DICE didn't make it either. They left to go make Frontlines, which unfortunately, wasn't as good as BF2.

:ohdear:

[Amit]

DICE didn't make it either. They left to go make Frontlines, which unfortunately, wasn't as good as BF2.

:ohdear:

What do you mean? Where does a THQ game come into this discussion?

[Warsaw]

Just poking fun at Freelancer's comment that EA didn't make BF3, which is true. I just don't consider DICE 2011 the original DICE. DICE were the guys who made BF1942 through BF2. From what I've heard, a lot of them left because of the EA acquisition. So you could say that "DICE" made BF3, but in actuality, the real DICE didn't make BF3.

Now we're stuck with the console-focused sell-out misery that is BF3. The game isn't fun. It's addicting, but it's also really fucking stressful. Five minutes in, and I'm already popping a blood vessel because of all the retardation going on (people and mechanics). Unfortunately, BF3 is better than 90% of the multi-player games out there. Terrible state of affairs, really.

[PlasbianX]

Is this game worth it on the 360? My PC cant run it currently and I'm getting fed up with MW3.

[=sw=warlord]

Welp.
Downloaded a appcrash tool to look through all the error logs and this is the results.
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n599/cobby87/BF3.png

[Donut]

Is this game worth it on the 360? My PC cant run it currently and I'm getting fed up with MW3.
seeing as youre playing mw3, yeah id say its worth it.
E: this is coming from somebody whos had bf3 since christmas and is still playing bc2 though

[=sw=warlord]

So I've solved the crash issues and got BF3 working in English.
So much for it being because it was russian:allears:

[Nero]

AHAH! I found out why my BF3 randomly crashed even after updates! Was running the 32 bit version on a 64 bit OS....

[{XG}Gijs007]

AHAH! I found out why my BF3 randomly crashed even after updates! Was running the 32 bit version on a 64 bit OS....
Seriously? so that's why my game crashes... its a pain in the ass. however I'm not switching to 32 bit...

[Donut]

started playing this today. cant say im really enjoying it so far. idk if its just a ton of bad games in a row or what.

i will say this: the only reason i revive people anymore is for the points. dice or whoever made this took all the fun out of using defibrillators. its not fun reviving people, and its not fun being revived. all theyre missing is the guy who voices eyore from winnie the pooh saying "oh boy im being revived" as your screen fades in.

also, whichever fuckhead in the development department that decided the game screen should fade in when you spawn needs to be punched in the balls with SAP gloves.

[Warsaw]

Whichever fuckwit on the dev team that decided this game was good and ready to ship should be punch straight in the dick with brass knuckles. Official reviewers who gave it a score in excess of 80 should receive the same treatment, but with spikes attached.

[{XG}Gijs007]

started playing this today. cant say im really enjoying it so far. idk if its just a ton of bad games in a row or what.

i will say this: the only reason i revive people anymore is for the points. dice or whoever made this took all the fun out of using defibrillators. its not fun reviving people, and its not fun being revived. all theyre missing is the guy who voices eyore from winnie the pooh saying "oh boy im being revived" as your screen fades in.

also, whichever fuckhead in the development department that decided the game screen should fade in when you spawn needs to be punched in the balls with SAP gloves.
My step brother recently started playing this to, he didn't like it to much at first but now that he has some faster hardware and more unlocks in the game he likes it more.

[Amit]

My step brother recently started playing this to, he didn't like it to much at first but now that he has some faster hardware and more unlocks in the game he likes it more.

Generally that's how I saw it at first too. It just takes a bit of time to get used to the game. Once you unlock better weapons, you'll be like "fuck yeah this weapon rocks!"

[Cortexian]

AEK-971.

[Warsaw]

Generally that's how I saw it at first too. It just takes a bit of time to get used to the game. Once you unlock better weapons, you'll be like "fuck yeah this weapon rocks!"

I thought that would help, but after unlocking a shitload of stuff and still raging at the game...no. It's not being stuck with crap guns, it's being stuck with crap players on crap maps with game mechanics that used to be good until they tweaked them for BF3. They could have just copy+pasted BC2 and added jets and all would have been good. Nope, we're stuck with regenerating vehicles, suppression, nigh invincible tanks, and pilots generally not being useful.

[Donut]

AEK-971.
i have heard things about this and i want it.
related: is it just me or is this gun a total POS in bc2?

[Warsaw]

It's just you. I totally demolish with that gun in BC2.

[Cortexian]

regenerating vehicles
Never had a problem with this mechanic, even with Maintenance it takes a long enough time to start regenerating that if someone is trying to kill you they've got a good enough chance.


suppression
I like suppression.


nigh invincible tanks
What? Only time I've seen this is a tank with a repair crew behind it. Thanks are nothing but cannon fodder for aircraft, and only slightly harder to kill as infantry. I don't see any difference between killing tanks as infantry between BC2 and BF3. The best way is still to sneak up and C4 the bastard. or coordinate 2+ engineers to rocket together.


pilots generally not being useful.
This part is true.

In my opinion the absolute worst parts of BF3 right now are the spawning system, getting killed out of an aircraft with a Stinger/IGLA without the aircraft exploding, and lack of post-game chat.

My beef with the spawning system is that if what you're trying to spawn on becomes unavialable and you're set to auto-deploy it will spawn you at the last available spawn location. Instead it should just take you out of the auto-deploy queue and let you chose again. There are many instances where this is helpful.

Ex: You're losing an objective and have squadmates nearby but you still have the objective. You choose to spawn on the objective instead of your squadmate for whatever reason (squadmate is pinned down or something). The objective is lost, you get spawned at deployment cause it's the last place you spawned. The same could happen vice-versa, you choose to spawn on a squadmate instead of the objectve that's being taken, the squadmate is killed before you can spawn, you lose the objective before you can switch to spawn on it.

[Warsaw]

Yeah, that spawn shit is annoying. They need to go back to BC2 style. Hey, look, another mechanic/feature that was better in BC2! Who would have guessed? Fucking shit, even squads handled better in BC2 (BF3 on console vs. BC2 on console).

In my experience, aircraft are nothing but cannon-fodder for foot-soldiers and don't contribute to the game in any meaningful way. Helos are better than jets, but even then infantry just hides until it leaves or gets shot down/runs away like a pussy after taking 2 points of damage. Point B getting whacked by a Cobra? Big fucking deal, just hunker down under a rock until it decides that spraying down the dirt and getting no points isn't fun.

Suppression is a stupid artificial add-in that basically gives you free points for being a terrible shot. If I'm sitting next to a rock and I hear bullets zinging over my head, I'm already under pressure and am officially "suppressed." You don't need to throw in this bogus haze clouding my screen and you don't need to give that faggot points for not being able to hit me despite the fact that he has a 3.4x scope on his goddamn machine gun and he got the drop on me. It's asinine.

As for the tanks: I hit it in the back THREE times. THREE. No engineer is outside fixing shit. That tank should be fucking dead. DEAD. None of this "Vehicle Disabled +100" bullshit; it should be exploded and permanently out of commission.

Also, Rush is fun unless you are defender and lose your starting point. Then it becomes bogus and is almost impossible to defend. That could be a unique situation to consoles though.


And before you say it (excepting the thing about Rush), no, this shit isn't fixed on PC. The same bullshit mechanics still exist.

[Donut]

is there some secret to getting knife kills? i use middle click for melee, and ive had all sorts of results ranging from lunging 30 feet at a guy to swinging at him and doing damage, but not killing him (which is cool, no more rambo knife), to just pulling the fucking knife out and getting me killed because the scroll menu has so many items in it

[Warsaw]

At least your scroll wheel works.

I use space-bar (because fuck it, you use Jump more often so it makes sense to put it on "E" and make use "X"). Hold it to whip your knife out and go Rambo, or simply tap it from 2 feet to get a knife kill.

[Donut]

hmm... i lose on average 4 to 5 knife kills per game because the knife just doesnt do anything when i sneak up on people. i should record some footage so i can see wtf im doing wrong, because its frustrating to lose nice knife kills like that :smith:
E: also warsaw, if youre ever in the market for a new mouse, cyborg rat 5. it is, by far, the best piece of gaming hardware i have ever had the pleasure of using.

[Warsaw]

It's just lag, then. BFBC2 did the same shit with knife kills and, yes, it's quite irritating.

Believe it or not, I am in the market for a new mouse. The wheel on my Razer Plasma Diamondback LE is finally beginning to wear out. I've looked at the R.A.T. series, but I can't get into the looks. I'm trying to build sleek black boxes with subtle white illumination. That rules out just about any mouse save for the Razer Lachesis, Mamba, and this one other mouse whose name I can't be assed to go look up right now. I already have the Logitech Slim Illuminated Keyboard ($70! :gonk:), so it's too late to turn back.

[=sw=warlord]

You know what really sucks in this game?
Team mates driving buggies at you and jumping out so it kills you.

[Cortexian]

You know what really sucks in this game?
Team mates driving buggies at you and jumping out so it kills you.
They shouldn't only be able to do that if you're camping. Don't camp. Unless you're sniping and actually not sucking at it by marking literally every enemy you see instead of just staying scoped and getting useless kills.

@Warsaw: It sounds like your jet pilots REALLY suck. I find it pretty easy to be an asset to your team once you're good enough to dogfight without heat seekers. Then you can equip useful secondaries like rocket pods to disable tanks with a single volley, which usually signals any competent nearby engineers to finish it off. If not you can usually loop around quick enough to finish it off yourself. I'm lucky enough to be able to fly with another very competent wing-man often, we'll actually fly formation and he'll support me with cannon fire while I fire a volley of rockets. This works really well against infantry as well who are taking a point or something while bunched up, set the run up from afar open with rockets and cannon combo from both of us, switch to gun for me, then another salvo of both. Pretty much levels an entire objective area and scatters infantry.

The suppression points are usually really low, I don't see a problem with the points. I could care less about the point system in the game, there's a lot more to being a good player in this game than your points. I like the actual suppression effects, especially the incoming effect it has on me. Sometimes I'll get a heads-up before I actually get hit because of it.

[=sw=warlord]

If I was camping I wouldn't be in the middle of the open.
I was crossing from one flag to another when this asshole came out the trees and made several attempts to run me over.
And then continued to do so for the rest of the game.

[Cortexian]

Then you blow up his jeep and watch him rage.

[Warsaw]

Then he just team-kills you for the rest of the game by joining your squad and spawning on you. Before you say "lock your squad," that means I have to start my own. That also means I'm going to be alone. And rarely is there a squad with 3 out of 4 people in it.

[Cortexian]

lol don't play in servers with team kill enabled, that's just asking to get griefed.

[=sw=warlord]

lol don't play in servers with team kill enabled, that's just asking to get griefed.
Pssst.
Notice how I mentioned the guy was getting out the vehicle before running me over.
inertia was what kept it going.

[Warsaw]

No choice on the bro box.

[Cortexian]

Pssst.
Notice how I mentioned the guy was getting out the vehicle before running me over.
inertia was what kept it going.
I was talking to Warsaw about how the guy jumping out would just team-kill if you blew up the jeep.

Please increase your inertia (I.E. Keep up)

[Pooky]

Please increase your inertia (I.E. Keep up)

I don't think you understand what inertia means.

[=sw=warlord]

I hope you mean velocity freelancer or you just again showed that you cannot make a witty comeback without it flopping like a dead fish.

[Amit]

Some faggot did that to me the other day. I spawned in the jet at the beginning of the round and then he spawned on top of me. So I fly off and get killed some time later. The next time I go for the jet I take a Jeep to get to the run way faster. I stop a ways away from the runway and get out and walk up to it. Turns out the guy who spawned on top of my jet at the start of the round was waiting for a new one to show up too. But instead of waiting in line like decent folk do, this faggot takes my jeep, drive off with it, turns around and drives right at me. Well the jet just spawned so I was running towards it and then all of a sudden I got ran over by something. I was like WTF? How did that happen? Turns out this angry bitch jumped out of the jeep before it hit me and then I died. He took my jet, flew off, then crashed in the middle of the map. Fucking retards I tell you.

[Warsaw]

Griefers: they all go to a special place in hell typically reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the theatre.

[Donut]

if i ran a server that would be a kickable offense tbqh. second intentional time would be a ban.
E: actually, thats abusing a mechanic in an otherwise team-kill-safe environment. this should probably be reported to the devs so they can do something about it, like make a vehicle retain "team mate ownership" when the team mate jumps out until its inertia dies out and it comes to rest, or until another person gets in.

[Tnnaas]

Griefers: they all go to a special place in hell typically reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the theatre.
Damn, I would +rep if I could just for the reference.

[Pooky]

Griefers: they all go to a special place in hell typically reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the theatre.

Wow man, umad?

[Warsaw]

Are you a griefer? It's irritating as fuck to want to just play a game and have assholes like that ruin it for everyone. It's gotten especially bad over the last couple of years.

And yes, I am mad. I just tried playing some Reach on Legendary with my usual set of skulls only to find that they've since patched the game and now it's so bullshit that I just rage quit. I put two stickies on an elite, he better be dead. I pump him with a full magazine of needles, he better explode and die. If I shoot a grunt in the head with the needle rifle, that helmet better come off. What do I find? None of the above apply. What. The. Fuck.

[Pooky]

Are you a griefer?

Oh, you have no idea.

Of course, I was an asshole before it was cool.

[Warsaw]

Protip: it was never cool. It's one thing to retaliate if someone did it to you first, but it's another thing entirely to be the one who instigates it.

[Pooky]

Protip: it was never cool. It's one thing to retaliate if someone did it to you first, but it's another thing entirely to be the one who instigates it.

Heh, you maaaaaaaad.

[Warsaw]

Yes. And griefers are faggots. Your point?

[ThePlague]

Griefers: they all go to a special place in hell typically reserved for child molesters and people who talk in the theatre.Heh, I got the reference.

[BobtheGreatII]

I can appreciate a good quote from Firefly.

[Amit]

"The special hell."

I'm getting kicked out of every server after two minutes. It says: Game disconnected: you were kicked by PunkBuster. Stated reason: PunkBuster kicked player (for 2 minutes) ... Violation (IGNORING QUERIES) #9006

I've googled the issue. No fix available. Like wtf. I played BF3 no problem last night.

[Warsaw]

Oh yeah, developers who use Punk Buster are also candidates for entry into "the special Hell."

[Pooky]

Heh, I got the reference.

Hey, my post was a reference too :(

http://i.imgur.com/c0H6H.jpg

But really, if you're getting mad at griefers you need to find something better to do with your time. Either laugh and play along or find a different game. Or in other words,

http://i.imgur.com/y0Clx.png

[Warsaw]

:gtfo:

I can laugh at it when it happens every now and then. When it happens consistently, persistently in every server I join, then it's a problem. I shouldn't have to find a new game to play just because some jerk-ass wants thinks its funny to interfere with my play time in a negative fashion. I just want to play the game, damnit. I don't want to have to cover my ass against my own team mates; that's not supposed to be part of the game.

Fake E: Firefly > Slackerz

E: If the only fun you get out of a game is to fuck with players trying to actually play it properly, then YOU need to find a new game.

[Amit]

I'm not understanding how this happens to you almost every game. I've only been in three games so far where there has been some actual douchebaggery. The one I mentioned above, another one with an asshole support gunner chasing me around, and the video below:

YgNMSQLzc4Q

[Nero]

Don't join Flying Angel servers. They are complete assholes. This is my second time being kicked out. The first time I killed the admin so I was booted and last night my team drove them to there base. I then started killing them as they went to there flag (No I wasn't shooting there base) and because I had a really high K/D, the admin booted me yet again. Bunch of asshats.

This was one metro btw.

[Cortexian]

lol I was in a Flying Angels server on Caspian, they were warning me that I need to stop base raping because I was dogfighting two jets over the enemy base.

Uh what.

If they had any kind of sense they would just use the fucking base AA. Nope, threaten to kick because I'm near their base.

Instead I explained the situation and they said they were going to "pass my recommendation up the chain of command". My recommendation being that it's not base rape just because I'm over the top of their base. I only class base rape as blowing up enemy vehicles on the ground, within the first 10 seconds of them taking off, or killing enemy infantry within an uncap.


I don't think you understand what inertia means.

I hope you mean velocity freelancer or you just again showed that you cannot make a witty comeback without it flopping like a dead fish.
Of course I know what it means. You guys on the other hand, really need to go back and re-examine situational irony.

Just in case you still don't get it, here's a hint: The fact that warlord didn't read my statement correctly, the fact that I then made an equally fail statement while using his own words to connect the two.

[Pooky]

I can laugh at it when it happens every now and then. When it happens consistently, persistently in every server I join, then it's a problem. I shouldn't have to find a new game to play just because some jerk-ass wants thinks its funny to interfere with my play time in a negative fashion. I just want to play the game, damnit. I don't want to have to cover my ass against my own team mates; that's not supposed to be part of the game.

I meant just find a new server to play in. But yeah, if it's happening in every game then that's a problem.


E: If the only fun you get out of a game is to fuck with players trying to actually play it properly, then YOU need to find a new game.

Don't take shit so personally man. I never said the only fun I get out of a game is fucking with people. I usually only do it to people who're taking things way too seriously.

[Warsaw]

It's personal because I can't get away from it. You tell me you are a griefer, well then you are part of the problem. Griefing *is* personal. You are targeting someone and making their experience miserable.

Also, games are srs bzns in my case.

@Amit: Bro-box. Need I say more? Bro-box is most of the problem right now, but griefing is griefing regardless of platform.

[TeeKup]

Me and pooky did it in CE with tanks. Several servers we went into some guy would be raging in all caps. He'd try contantly rush our base trying to cap. He'd bump over the hill right of front of blue base only to be slammed with 2 tank shells. Guy raged so fucking hard.

My idea of griefing in BF3 is targeting the same fuck over and over again because either:

A: he had the audacity to try and do something dangerous but failed
B: Was being a general cunt so I cut him off at every turn.

[Pooky]

B: Was being a general cunt so I cut him off at every turn.

Back on CoD when Tobi would get team-killed by someone in search who didn't apologize or acted like a jerk about it, he'd follow them into every single game repeatedly fucking their shit up until they apologized.

Every one of them did.

[Pooky]

It's personal because I can't get away from it. You tell me you are a griefer, well then you are part of the problem. Griefing *is* personal. You are targeting someone and making their experience miserable.

Also, games are srs bzns in my case.

@Amit: Bro-box. Need I say more? Bro-box is most of the problem right now, but griefing is griefing regardless of platform.

Well if you're taking games both seriously and personally then I can't help you. I mostly just play for the lulz these days.

[Amit]

I mostly just play for the lulz these days.

Of course you do. Your JKII server probably generates it for you.

[Pooky]

Yeah, it generally does. The trash talking on JK2 is half the fun sometimes.

2856:53say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: now that you mention it
2856:56say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: remember when luffy tried hard
2856:58say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: to get good
2856:59say: Luffy: your quite welcome old chap
2857:00say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: for about a month
2857:02say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: failed and quit playing?
2857:03say: ^3 i'm figo: say it when you see our hirls you fapfag
2857:05say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: hey luffy
2857:07say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: trash noob
2857:11say: Luffy: :(
2857:12Kill: 1 5 3: Padawan. killed Sprigner by MOD_SABER
2857:15say: Luffy: u hurt my feelings
2857:17say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: then he would discown
2857:17say: TK-421: all i ever remember luffy doing is putting on absorb and running away
2857:19say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: from jetty
2857:20say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: and go to
2857:21say: TK-421: then turning around and doinf a dfa
2857:22say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: bespin streets
2857:22say: TK-421: repeatedly
2857:24say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: hiding his name
2857:27say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: gg luffy
2857:28say: TK-421: lol
2857:33say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: fail to disco to bs undetected
2857:34say: Luffy: :'(
2857:40Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2857:42say: Padawan.: GG!
2857:44Kill: 6 2 3: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK killed ^W^S^Wmhm by MOD_SABER
2857:45say: Luffy: im gonna cry now
2857:49say: ^3 i'm figo: :D
2857:52say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: wow huge nerd
2857:52say: TK-421: luffy was pretty decent in ff's though
2857:53Item: 7 ammo_powercell
2857:54say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: dont cry
2857:55Kill: 4 7 6: Luffy killed TK-421 by MOD_BLASTER
2857:57say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: think of it this way
2857:58say: Luffy: lool
2857:59say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: at least you're not going bald
2858:00Item: 7 weapon_bowcaster
2858:00Item: 7 ammo_powercell
2858:01Item: 7 ammo_powercell
2858:02say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: like figo
2858:05say: Luffy: true
2858:05Item: 3 ammo_blaster
2858:07say: Luffy: i love my hair
2858:07Item: 1 ammo_blaster
2858:08say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: on top of a skinny weak body
2858:10Kill: 1 5 3: Padawan. killed Sprigner by MOD_SABER
2858:11say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: and hideous face
2858:12Item: 3 weapon_blaster
2858:12say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: :D
2858:14Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2858:16say: Padawan.: GG!
2858:17Item: 3 weapon_bowcaster
2858:18Item: 3 ammo_powercell
2858:21say: Padawan.: EZ JOTNR
2858:23say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: he wears cheap clothes too
2858:24ClientDisconnect: 8
2858:25Kill: 1 5 3: Padawan. killed Sprigner by MOD_SABER
2858:26say: TK-421: figo the -1/10 on hotornot.com
2858:27say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: pretending he's rich
2858:28say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: LMFAO!
2858:29say: TK-421: lool
2858:32say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: hurt by words disco
2858:34Kill: 3 1 10: ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa killed Padawan. by MOD_BOWCASTER
2858:36say: ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa: xD
2858:36say: Luffy: figo is rich?>
2858:46say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: figo pretends he's a millionaire company owner
2858:49say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: when his euro friends are around
2858:54ClientDisconnect: 5
2858:57Kill: 6 2 3: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK killed ^W^S^Wmhm by MOD_SABER
2859:02Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2859:04say: Padawan.: GG!
2859:09say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: hey bloodcry
2859:12say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: why are you being so silent
2859:14Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2859:16say: Padawan.: GG!
2859:16say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: hoping no one will rip on you?
2859:24Item: 4 ammo_blaster
2859:27say: Luffy: lol
2859:27Item: 4 ammo_blaster
2859:28say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: bloodcry
2859:30Item: 4 ammo_powercell
2859:30Item: 4 weapon_bowcaster
2859:31say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: talk or banned
2859:33Item: 4 ammo_blaster
2859:48say: TK-421: bloodcry?
2859:49Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2859:50say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: fine
2859:51say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: story time
2859:51say: Padawan.: GG!
2859:53say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: for bloodcry
2859:54say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: aka padawan
2859:56say: ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa: aussies
2859:56Item: 3 weapon_blaster
2859:56Item: 3 ammo_blaster
2859:58say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: bloodcry played
2859:58Item: 1 weapon_bowcaster
2859:59Item: 1 ammo_powercell
2859:59say: TK-421: lol
2859:59Item: 1 ammo_powercell
2860:01say: Luffy: where is herp when you need butt sex?
2860:01say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: this game on xfire
2860:02say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: for over
2860:03Item: 1 ammo_blaster
2860:04say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: 1,000 hours
2860:04Item: 7 weapon_blaster
2860:05say: Luffy: hes never around
2860:09Item: 3 weapon_bowcaster
2860:10say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: and he absolutely blew at it
2860:11say: TK-421: lol luffy
2860:12Kill: 1 4 3: Padawan. killed Luffy by MOD_SABER
2860:15say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: everyone kicked him out of clans
2860:15Item: 4 ammo_powercell
2860:15Item: 4 weapon_bowcaster
2860:16Item: 4 ammo_powercell
2860:17say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: so when confronted
2860:21say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: on xfire
2860:24say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: why he had so many hours and sucke
2860:27say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: he uninstalled jk2
2860:28Item: 4 ammo_blaster
2860:28Item: 4 weapon_blaster
2860:28say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: and xfire
2860:28Item: 7 ammo_blaster
2860:30say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: for about a month
2860:33say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: in a rage fit of cry
2860:34Item: 7 ammo_powercell
2860:37say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: and came back with all his games 0 hours
2860:40say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: and a new pic of himself
2860:43Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2860:44say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: which looked identical
2860:45say: Padawan.: GG!
2860:47say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: to water level link
2860:49say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: on n64
2860:51Kill: 6 3 3: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2860:55say: TK-421: lol wat
2860:56Kill: 6 2 3: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK killed ^W^S^Wmhm by MOD_SABER
2861:00say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: he looks like link
2861:01say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: from zelda
2861:04say: TK-421: rofl
2861:06say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: he's from new zealand
2861:11say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: and wears the gay link cap
2861:18say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: but apparently where he's from thats high fashion
2861:19Item: 4 ammo_powercell
2861:19Item: 4 ammo_powercell
2861:26Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2861:28say: Padawan.: GG!
2861:32say: TK-421: not gonna lie, being a huge nerd and a bi
2861:33say: TK-421: I'd hit it
2861:39Kill: 1 3 3: Padawan. killed ^l^a{^a^lJotnR^l^a}^a^lwoa by MOD_SABER
2861:41say: Padawan.: GG!
2861:45say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: well
2861:46Item: 3 ammo_powercell
2861:46Item: 3 weapon_bowcaster
2861:47Item: 3 ammo_powercell
2861:49say: ^3Figo = ALEKSANDR SASS FACEBOOK: needs more meat on that as

Of course, JK2 is also an amazing game that beats the hell out of any multiplayer release in the last 5 years and I want to support that. I have no idea why you'd bring that up in a BF3 thread though.

:mech2:

[Amit]

The people have a right to know that what they are playing isn't a golden nutsack of Ea goodness.

In any case, I think this has to be the best BF3 Community Contest submission yet:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0_jjnpLSwdc

It just feels epic watching it.

[Warsaw]

Well if you're taking games both seriously and personally then I can't help you. I mostly just play for the lulz these days.

Lulz at somebody else's expense are lulz not deserved.

[TeeKup]

There is an unbelievable amount of win and awesome in that video.

[Pooky]

Lulz at somebody else's expense are lulz not deserved.

http://i.imgur.com/uF0Un.jpg

[MXC]

That is the greatest montage I have ever seen.


I really need to play more.

[Donut]

well, this game is pretty much going in that proverbial bin of games i own but dont play. ive decided this game is literally worse for my health than smoking. the amount of rage it produces is staggering, even for me.

[MXC]

What's the name of the map with the bigass cliff? I've wanted to play on that map since I saw the first video of it, but every time I go into a server it's Caspian Border, Metro or Kharg island. A couple times I've seen Kharkland, but that's it.

[Cortexian]

What's the name of the map with the bigass cliff? I've wanted to play on that map since I saw the first video of it, but every time I go into a server it's Caspian Border, Metro or Kharg island. A couple times I've seen Kharkland, but that's it.
Damavand Peak.

[ThePlague]

It's on Rush too, not Conquest.

[Amit]

What's the name of the map with the bigass cliff? I've wanted to play on that map since I saw the first video of it, but every time I go into a server it's Caspian Border, Metro or Kharg island. A couple times I've seen Kharkland, but that's it.

As Cortexian said, that's Damavand Peak. I don't like the map at all on conquest, though. It feels so retarded. If you want to go from one side to the other, you have to go through the tunnel. If you try to fly the scout chopper over the mountain you'll explode.

Also it's Karkand, not Kharkland or Karkland or Kirkland.

[=sw=warlord]

As Cortexian said, that's Damavand Peak. I don't like the map at all on conquest, though. It feels so retarded. If you want to go from one side to the other, you have to go through the tunnel. If you try to fly the scout chopper over the mountain you'll explode.

Also it's Karkand, not Kharkland or Karkland or Kirkland.
Ugh...what.
I've flown over that mountain a few times.

[Warsaw]

i c wut u did thar...

[Amit]

Ugh...what.
I've flown over that mountain a few times.

What? In conquest? I did it three times in a row to make sure it wasn't some freak accident. I blew up from "Bad Luck" every time.

[Ifafudafi]

I thought that was how you broke the stalemates in Damavand

If you can't break the middle, you chopper around and hit them from their bases

It goes this way almost every game I play there, don't know what's happening to you man

(I'm shit at flying choppers so I don't do it myself but I know for a fact it works)

[Warsaw]

It works. You have to almost skim the top of the mountain, though.

[Cortexian]

No, you have to not skim the mountain. If you're to close to the rocks you die, it's out of bounds to prevent people from camping on the middle mountain part.

[Warsaw]

I see them skim the mountain all the time. If you are outside of a vehicle, it will kill you. It's how they make the maps bigger for aerial vehicles; it only kills those not in said vehicles when they are in that section.

[Cortexian]

On PC, if you're within about 10 feet of the mountain/rocks around the tunnel entrances you get killed and the vehicle then explodes. It doesn't matter what seat you're on, it's scripted into the game. You have to fly far away from the mountain over the tunnels to survive.

[Warsaw]

Well, that's asinine and they should fix it. Just another example of how much of a hack-job BF3 really is.

[Cortexian]

Its that way on purpose, to prevent people from camping on the hill. Or sniping from a helicopter overing near the hill or landed on the hill.

[neuro]

fix level design instead then.

[Warsaw]

Its that way on purpose, to prevent people from camping on the hill. Or sniping from a helicopter overing near the hill or landed on the hill.

They have a system in place that already kills people when they are on foot in places that only aerial vehicles can go. And yeah, they should fix level design instead. Whoever thought that making the entire map force players through an easily choked-off tunnel was a great idea is an idiot. I appreciate them trying to put emphasis on helicopters, but the helos die quickly and, assuming both teams are even strength and skill, don't carry enough people on them to be worth it.

[Sanctus]

I just go around. From the Russian spawn I go far right. That way Bad Luck doesn't murder me; also, the opposite team is watching the tunnel and the hill, not their left flank. God I need to tear myself away from Skyrim so I can play this.

[Cortexian]

Oh god helicopters are so invincible it's not even funny, they don't die quickly. Any helicopter in the game that carries passengers can be repaired in-flight, including the Little Bird and Z-11W and not just the Venom. Combine that with the co-pilot passenger marking targets like mad and the pilot with Flares/ECM and a death-beam machine gun and Heat Seekers/Guided Missile and you've got a recipe for enemy team genocide.

I'm guilty of doing this very VERY often with three other friends of mine.

[TeeKup]

I've been watching a lot of the "Only In Battlefield" video's. There's a lot of people being butthurt over C4. I just lol to myself anytime I die from it. It's just silly to me.

[Cortexian]

The only people whining about C4 are the people who haven't played other Battlefield games, lol.

[Warsaw]

Oh god helicopters are so invincible it's not even funny, they don't die quickly. Any helicopter in the game that carries passengers can be repaired in-flight, including the Little Bird and Z-11W and not just the Venom. Combine that with the co-pilot passenger marking targets like mad and the pilot with Flares/ECM and a death-beam machine gun and Heat Seekers/Guided Missile and you've got a recipe for enemy team genocide.

I'm guilty of doing this very VERY often with three other friends of mine.

I just shoot the pilot out. For some reason, I have good luck using the M249 and head-shotting pilots. But that aside, I've never seen an entire team slaughtered by a helo. Ever. They just flit about like annoying bugs occasionally killing someone and making the capture of one point difficult. All you need are two points, though, so you just move from A to C when the helo moves from C to A.

Also, lol, C4. My issue with C4 is that it's not strong enough. I put three on the back of a tank and all I get is "Vehicle Disabled +100?" I call shenanigans.

[Amit]

I just go around. From the Russian spawn I go far right. That way Bad Luck doesn't murder me; also, the opposite team is watching the tunnel and the hill, not their left flank. God I need to tear myself away from Skyrim so I can play this.

You can go around?


I just shoot the pilot out. For some reason, I have good luck using the M249 and head-shotting pilots. But that aside, I've never seen an entire team slaughtered by a helo. Ever. They just flit about like annoying bugs occasionally killing someone and making the capture of one point difficult. All you need are two points, though, so you just move from A to C when the helo moves from C to A.

Also, lol, C4. My issue with C4 is that it's not strong enough. I put three on the back of a tank and all I get is "Vehicle Disabled +100?" I call shenanigans.

I seriously have no clue what you're playing because 2 C4 always get the job done for me on Normal servers. And it's not easy to shoot the pilot out unless they are flying really close to the ground in a scout chopper.

[cheezdue]

That is why I love playing as support. I get an infinite amount of explosives and LMG ammo. :D

[Cortexian]

Yeah you've had a seemingly completely different experience in a lot of things than me Warsaw. 3 C4 anywhere on a vehicle means its dead. 2 is only a disable, sounds like you threw three but one didn't stick and the vehicle moved.

And yeah, shooting pilots out of the Z-11W when it's flying straight at you is really easy. I do it a lot on Damavand Peak when I have a LMG. MG36 is pretty boss for it.

[Amit]

I'm going to start doing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wC1kmwT29U8

[BobtheGreatII]

That's amazing.

[Warsaw]

Yeah you've had a seemingly completely different experience in a lot of things than me Warsaw. 3 C4 anywhere on a vehicle means its dead. 2 is only a disable, sounds like you threw three but one didn't stick and the vehicle moved.

And yeah, shooting pilots out of the Z-11W when it's flying straight at you is really easy. I do it a lot on Damavand Peak when I have a LMG. MG36 is pretty boss for it.

Nope, didn't miss. BF3 is just a hack and a terribly inconsistent game at best. Honestly. Maybe I'm deluded by how polished BC2 was by the time BF3 came out, but I'm more inclined to think that most of you are all "OOOOH SHINY" about BF3 to notice that compared to its predecessor, it's not much of an improvement if it is one at all. And don't take this the wrong way, I'm not attacking you guys for your opinions.

Also, yeah, that's a pretty legit way to get rid of snipers. Only problem is that I still have to be a sniper to do it and at that point I might as well just shoot back. I'm pretty good with ballistic trajectories.

[Cortexian]

lol wtf, running over people with mav kills them it doesn't push them.

[Amit]

lol wtf, running over people with mav kills them it doesn't push them.

Have you tried running people over since the B2K update? It's near impossible to get kills with the MAV now. I sent mine into an unsuspecting group of people on Strike at Karkand and not a single one died. What I did end up doing was getting one of them to jump on my MAV near the ground and then fall off of it and die when I increased the altitude. At least I got a kick out of that.

[Sanctus]

You can go around?
Yes of course, just fly over the low-lying hills. They also provide decent cover. When you come around you'll be flying over the road on the U.S. team's left flank. If you do it fast enough the Little Bird pilot on the other team will get caught COMPLETELY off guard. You can shoot him down every time

[Cortexian]

Except that the Little Bird is insanely superior to the Z-11W. Actually, all the America helicopters are way superior.

[Warsaw]

Pretty sure that's all in your imagination. I live just as long in Russian helos as I do in American ones.

[Amit]

Pretty sure that's all in your imagination. I live just as long in Russian helos as I do in American ones.

Maybe you can, but it's been statistically proven that all US aircraft are superior to all Russian aircraft.

[Cortexian]

The Frogfoot is superior to the Warthog.

[ExAm]

Only because its extinguisher works properly.

[Cortexian]

And it turns way faster. Which is all that really matters in a dogfight.

[Amit]

Oh snap, I forgot about the ground attack jets. Yes, Frogfoot FTW, hands down.

[Cortexian]

Battle Log Leaderboards > Score Per Minute > All

Oh look hackers.

[=sw=warlord]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpPKKjGsoDo&feature=related
:XD:

[TeeKup]

6K9gZKvUQJg

"Doo dee doo dee doo...OH LOOK A TUNGUSKA!"

[Cortexian]

I've done that a couple times now, I still find it more effective to just kill the mobile aa with rocket pods.

Air Radar
ECM Jammer
Rocket Pods

Winning.

[Amit]

Holy shit, the MAV can destroy other equipment including other MAVs:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IosFi8gYbMk

There are so many hidden and undocumented features in this game.

[Cortexian]

I knew about all of those things... There are game hints and tutorial pop-ups for each.

[Amit]

Heh, I've been getting the same 10 recycled (and obvious) tips since launch. Not a single one mentions the MAV :/

Oh well, it must be because I as good as pirated a faulty copy of the Russian Extended Version...right? :realsmug:

[Cortexian]

That's probably it.

No but really, there are tooltips in-game pretty much every time you get in the MAV. I'm pretty sure that looking at enemy equipment promts the one about shooting said enemy equipment.

[Amit]

That's probably it.

No but really, there are tooltips in-game pretty much every time you get in the MAV. I'm pretty sure that looking at enemy equipment promts the one about shooting said enemy equipment.

OH! You meant while flying the MAV. I thought you meant in the loading screen. I always paid attention to the controls that popped up when you get in the MAV, but I never realized any popped up when targeting enemy equipment. I was always too distracted all the enemies that get lit up on the map.

[Sanctus]

Except that the Little Bird is insanely superior to the Z-11W. Actually, all the America helicopters are way superior.

Even still, I've shot down plenty of Little Birds because the pilots were absolutely not expecting me from that direction, they just sit there waiting for more passengers. By the time I arrive they're just starting to take off

[Amit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XLgrEtaO6W4

[TeeKup]

1:29

Take me my prince.

[Amit]

HOLY GOD! I just found the best BF3 video I've ever seen!:

t3P9aoUCCb8&hd=1

The explosion at 1:41 is so badass. It's a shame that it's only in 720p.

[TeeKup]

The rocket strike and F-35 take off was REALLY badass.

[Mr Buckshot]

so exams forced me to put away BF3 and focus on studying for over a month.

now I've got back to playing, and the first thing I notice is that 99% of the time my stinger missiles are useless because everyone's got ECM jammers or flares now :(

[Sanctus]

Damn you Amit I was about to post that!

[Cortexian]

so exams forced me to put away BF3 and focus on studying for over a month.

now I've got back to playing, and the first thing I notice is that 99% of the time my stinger missiles are useless because everyone's got ECM jammers or flares now :(
Yeah but once you DO get a hit on someone there's a 50% change that you'll Disable + Kill without destroying the vehicle, MAKES SENSE RIGHT BRO?!

DICE/EA PLEASE FIX YOUR GAME!!

[Donut]

well, after 4 days origin finally decided to connect to the EA network or whatever, and i made another attempt at this game. the AEK is, indeed, badass. the knife is still broken as fuck though. it just flat out refuses to work half the time. ive tried pressing the button, holding the button, taking the knife out and clicking (yes, WHEN he does the special "imma kill this guy" animation), and none of it worked. it only worked twice tonight out of 7 or 8 attempts, and everybody was standing still. the knife is fucked. i swear to christ it must operate off of a karma variable or something.
E: witnessed a squad mate's knife fail twice too, and a guy failed when he tried to knife me.

[Cortexian]

You have to knife people from behind... Best is when they're standing or prone, when they're crouched (especially against a wall) it's pretty glitched.

[Amit]

You can also knife people using a mortar launcher, but you have to get into a certain angle to do it. Just shuffle around them until you see the knife move up into a stabbing position and then hit the melee button. Often times the support dude using the mortar won't even notice you until its too late.

[Donut]

whoa wait, what? when you pull the knife out (like, by pressing 5 i think), you still need to press the melee button to hit them? i was just left clicking.
and ironically enough, the one knife that did work for me was on a guy that was crouched and sort of facing toward me. the other one was on a guy that was running away from me, but i have that sprint upgrade, so run all you want, lol. i had a revelation while i was trying to get to sleep last night, and i thought, does it have something to do with distance? in my experience, ill be right up the guy's ass when i melee, and all it does is slash him, not the whole take down animation. when i do take people down, its from a little bit further away and i kind of almost lunge into it.

i am going to get this shit right eventually. as you can see in my sig, i like to knife stuff.
E: especially since i cant defib people to death anymore :C

[Amit]

Oh wait, yeah, if you're trying to kill somebody on an emplacement you'll need to pull out the knife (6 on the keyboard, 5 is the grenade), adjust yourself, and then left click. When killing mobile targets just use the melee button. It's much faster than changing to the knife and then attacking. I've pressed the melee key about 2 meters behind an enemy and sliced them up. Your character can lunge farther than it looks like he can. Even if you think you won't make it, try it anyways. Sometimes I'm surprised that I managed to get the knife kill from long range.

[Amit]

Good God!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2bjTRRnfEC4

[Cortexian]

lol I do that all the time on Metro 64 servers, people are dumb as fuck on Metro 64 servers. That was also console from the look of his movements (really fluid horizontal turns, not much up and down), console players are even worse on the Metro stairs/escalator tops for some reason.

Suppressor is an amazing attachment :)

[Champ]

Why would he have used text chat if he was on console? Do they even have that on consoles?

[Amit]

Why would he have used text chat if he was on console? Do they even have that on consoles?

No, they don't. Cortexian is mistaken. He must have shitty mouse smoothing turned on externally or something.

[=sw=warlord]

That was also console from the look of his movements (really fluid horizontal turns, not much up and down)
Nope.avi
Probably did what I do, use an xbox 360 controller.
I tend to rip people up with it.

[hobojoe]

^ This, only way I can fly a heli D:

[Amit]

lmao:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=heTUkOlYYGw

[TeeKup]

Good God!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2bjTRRnfEC4

GET WRECKED.

[Pooky]

Good God!

I don't get it. Was I supposed to be impressed by him spawn killing a bunch of dudes repeatedly? Especially when they were facing the other way when they spawned.

[Warsaw]

Also, he was playing on Normal mode, where your health regenerates. I'd like to see that stunt on Hardcore.

[TeeKup]

The golden rule of any shooter dictates to pay attention to your surrounding. If I was in that group I would have kept staring at that stair case while the rest of the lemmings stare at the goddamn wall. I.E. I'm celebrating the punishment of the stupid.

Lesson: Idiots get what they deserved and the player gets a juicy points bonus.

[Warsaw]

True, but I'm talking about the earlier segments, which actually would have caused him to die had it not been for regenerating health.

[Cortexian]

The golden rule of any shooter dictates to pay attention to your surrounding. If I was in that group I would have kept staring at that stair case while the rest of the lemmings stare at the goddamn wall. I.E. I'm celebrating the punishment of the stupid.

Lesson: Idiots get what they deserved and the player gets a juicy points bonus.
Better solution on Metro is to patrol the bottom part of the stairs. You can effectively camp both the bottom of the clusterfuck-stairs and escalators and cover your teams back as a Support class. Having one person do this is actually REALLY helpful.

[Amit]

Every single person that plays BF3 needs to install this on their browser: http://better-battlelog.djbrainnrg.at/en/features

AEK-971 stats:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/amit9821/Capture-33.png

[Cortexian]

That's boss.

Installed.

[Pooky]

The golden rule of any shooter dictates to pay attention to your surrounding.

Teekup, they had very obviously just spawned. You can't expect everyone to spawn and immediately spin 360 degrees in case someone comes up behind them.

[TeeKup]

I'm sorry but no they didn't. 2-3 people may have just respawned in that group but not everyone. That's no where near a designated spawning area to being with. Even when spawning on a team mate in that area it's not that hard to discern your bearings and what you should do.

I.E. look immediately at the escalators and expect some asshole to do what this player just did. I've been on both ends. Console, and PC on a friends profile.

[Pooky]

I'm sorry but no they didn't. 2-3 people may have just respawned in that group but not everyone.

Then give me another reason why a shitload of people would be standing still out in the open staring at a wall?

Either way, I didn't see anything impressive about that video.

[Cortexian]

Then give me another reason why a shitload of people would be standing still out in the open staring at a wall?

Either way, I didn't see anything impressive about that video.
Because on that map you need to push around either side of the wall on the top of the escalators, the defenders and/or whoever owns that point usually has both sides on lock-down so it's pretty much impossible to get around that wall. People bottle-up like that ALL THE TIME.

[Amit]

^^ What Teek and Cortexian said. You need to play that map to understand where exactly those people were standing and why they were there to begin with. To either side of that wall is a hail of enemy bullets. If they were smart they would have turned right around, gone down the escalator, and then tried to flank the enemy. Nope, they decided they wanted to camp instead of taking the fight to the enemy.

[Cortexian]

Even if you do flank, if the people defending B/that set of MCOM's are doing it from the right positions you can't actually flank. The other set of escalators is usually the best but it's also really defensible, the cluster-fuck stairs are useless to take if you've got people defending to the left of the area in the previous video.

[Amit]

Sickest ending I've seen in any BF3 video at 2:07 (but watch the whole thing):


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4hQPBRQ_-RE

[Cortexian]

This means GPU is fucked right?
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8998/bf3fail.jpg

[Pooky]

^^ What Teek and Cortexian said. You need to play that map to understand where exactly those people were standing and why they were there to begin with. To either side of that wall is a hail of enemy bullets. If they were smart they would have turned right around, gone down the escalator, and then tried to flank the enemy. Nope, they decided they wanted to camp instead of taking the fight to the enemy.

Ah, I see.

Kind of like how in TF2 an entire team of players would let themselves get pinned by a few sentry guns and just refuse to advance. Those were the best games.

[neuro]

This means GPU is fucked right?
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8998/bf3fail.jpg

either:
driver issue (unlikely though)
card overheating (eh)
card getting fucked up the behind and destroyed (propably)

you can either keep running with it until it fries completely, or replace it right away.
i waited until it completely fried and then run my pc in software render for a few weeks and not play games before i got a new one. (because im dirt-poor)

[Amit]

Kind of like how in TF2 an entire team of players would let themselves get pinned by a few sentry guns and just refuse to advance. Those were the best games.

Yes! Exactly that. The few players who decide to push up usually get cut down easily.

[Warsaw]

Unless you're cool and actually use the side stair-well. Then you can really screw up the defending team if you time yourself right.

[Cortexian]

either:
driver issue (unlikely though)
Unlikely, tried a couple different drivers to make sure.


card overheating (eh)
Also doubt it, it never gets above 80 degrees since I use my own active fan settings.


card getting fucked up the behind and destroyed (propably)
That's what I was thinking...

Looks like EVGA is going to be getting an earful. I'll likely get an upgrade to the 500 series for free now since if one card is borked they need to upgrade both since I have an SLI system... This will have been my FOURTH replacement card in less than a year, WHAT THE FUCK. I'm getting sick of sending these things away over and over.

[Warsaw]

Wait wait wait...80 degrees is OK?

Goddamn, mine doesn't go above 60. New GPUs are designed to take the heat, I guess?

[Cortexian]

New GPU's are good up to like 90 degrees.

Mine don't usually go above 70 though.

[Warsaw]

In light of all your recent video card shenanigans, I do have this to say:

What happened to that Nvidia supremacy?

[=sw=warlord]

In light of all your recent video card shenanigans, I do have this to say:

What happened to that Nvidia supremacy?
It died when Nvidia tried reselling the 8800 as the 9800.

E/
Gpus may be good for high temps, VRAM isn't.
Mosfets certainly aren't.

[Amit]

I don't trust graphics cards heating up over 60C. Like warlord said, I don't care high much heat the GPU itself takes, the rest of the components will fry like bacon.

[Cortexian]

IFV and me, forever <3
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/18535618/1/210912874/

[Warsaw]

The IFV's absolutely wreck in BF3. I would take one over the legit tank any day, especially because the IFV can destroy a tank in about 7 seconds flat using the TOW launcher.

[Cortexian]

And the LAV's have infinite speed! :)

I have now unlocked all vehicle unlocks for every vehicle.

[Amit]

I laugh at tanks when I see them. I shit my pants in fear when I see an IFV.

[Warsaw]

I actually have more success killing IFVs. They tend to not look around themselves as much for whatever reason, so I can easily circle around and hit it in the behind without much trouble. They also take less rockets to kill and C4 works 100% of the time (assuming I survive long enough to trigger it).

[BobtheGreatII]

Okay. So what's the deal with laggy online multiplayer? I get a good 5 minutes of gameplay and the rest is shitty jumpy shit and makes me want to punch a hole in my monitor. Is it something on my end? I read it was something having to do with the EA servers being junk and that the next patch was supposed to fix it. But I see you guys playing and it doesn't seem to do this at all. Internet speeds are 20 down and 5 up. Which may not be the best, but I was getting the exact same thing with 5 down and .39 up. Is there a way I can fix this?

[Amit]

Okay. So what's the deal with laggy online multiplayer? I get a good 5 minutes of gameplay and the rest is shitty jumpy shit and makes me want to punch a hole in my monitor. Is it something on my end? I read it was something having to do with the EA servers being junk and that the next patch was supposed to fix it. But I see you guys playing and it doesn't seem to do this at all. Internet speeds are 20 down and 5 up. Which may not be the best, but I was getting the exact same thing with 5 down and .39 up. Is there a way I can fix this?

EA servers? Most servers are from Game Server Providers, not EA.

[Cortexian]

I never get Internet-based lag in this game unless I'm in a legitimate laggy server (see: not from my continent).

[BobtheGreatII]

I'll have to record a video showing off what's happening.

[Bastinka]

http://i.imgur.com/ndlQg.jpg

23/0 with only the MAV (roadkills) in Metro, never did a bullet graze anywhere close to me.

[TeeKup]

WOW. I would have been the butthurt faggot hunting you down with my M1014.

[Bastinka]

Good luck getting past that impossible line right at B when playing 64-player Metro Conquest, I was quite far in the back too :>

EDIT: Just played Metro Rush running around and arming the bombs while popping off some crazy headshots with the SV98. I never knew sniping was this easy.
http://i.imgur.com/jbWnU.jpg

[Amit]

I never knew sniping was this easy.


You're on operation metro shooting people at close range. That barely qualifies as sniping. Goddamn Cortexian is real sniper.

[Bastinka]

I'll make a video eventually, that should satisfy your skepticism.

[Cortexian]

Consistant 950+ meter headshots on the first shot now heh.

Don't need no stinking initial range-finding shot.

[RedBaron]

I'm having a lot of trouble getting use to piloting jets. I hate how you constantly have to scroll the mouse in a direction for the jet to respond. I played HAWX, and loved how jets would continuously climb/dive/roll if you just moved the mouse past a certain threshold in each direction.

[Pooky]

Star Wars Battlefront II did that too.

[RedBaron]

True that, forgot about that game, it's been so long. But yeah, how do you guys do it? Knowing you guys, you're all probably pros...

[Cortexian]

Mouse + Keyboard, bind Space to pull up.

[=sw=warlord]

True that, forgot about that game, it's been so long. But yeah, how do you guys do it? Knowing you guys, you're all probably pros...
I personally use my gamepad on the PC for games.
Makes all the stuff awkward with a mouse so much cleaner.
Fuck having all my buttons laid out in area of a square foot when i can use one gamepad.

E/
Waits for typical booing and hissing from intolerant KB/M supremists.

[Warsaw]

Booo! Hiss!

[Pooky]

Eh, I played Halo with a gamepad for a long time and actually did pretty well with it (with zero autoaim). Ultimately I still think the mouse works better for it though.

[Donut]

i can totally see a controller or joystick being superior to keyboard and mouse for quite a few things. driving vehicles is the biggest one that comes to mind. when it comes down to point and shoot though, ill take a mouse any day. im not sure if i prefer a keyboard for movement though. i always wondered what a hybrid would be like...

E: mother of god.
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/yhst-39083765508394_2194_93883072
http://www.xoxide.com/splitfish-fxsharkwless-xboxcontroller.html

[Cortexian]

If someone makes a really nice 320x320 pixel Battlefield Modacity Logo I'll upload it to the platoon. The one we have is kinda "meh".

Should have either "Battlefield Modacity" or "BFM" written on it somewhere.

[TeeKup]

Take the gear in the Modacity logo, Cris-cross it with some Rifles, and put a helmet on it. Maybe an explosion in the background.

[BobtheGreatII]

I like Teek's idea.