Battlefield Tri-hard

[TeeKup]

I'm suddenly starting to think getting this for the 360 is saving me a whole lot of headache. Also I want the M40A5.

[jcap]

DICE quickmatches you to a leaked server,

threatens to ban you for playing the beta.


FYI supposedly the updated server files will be leaked tonight around midnight. Whether or not they require authentication with the EA backend like BFBC2's servers do...I don't know yet.

[Pooky]

I wasn't planning on buying this game in the first place just because of pre-order weapon unlocks which I despise. Now I definitely won't be buying it and I'll recommend to every gamer I know not to buy it because of the shitty way these people treat their customers (Origin users).

[Amit]

I wasn't planning on buying this game in the first place just because of pre-order weapon unlocks which I despise. Now I definitely won't be buying it and I'll recommend to every gamer I know not to buy it because of the shitty way these people treat their customers (Origin users).

What are you on about? The weapon unlocks are time-based exclusives and not pre-order exclusives. Also, I haven't heard of anyone actually being banned. I think it's more of an empty threat to discourage playing on unfinished gametypes. They are afraid people will look at how unfinished it it, despite it being a beta and then go say that the final game will be bugged to hell. The ignorance is rampant.

[=sw=warlord]

From what I've heard, caspian boarder was a lot more enjoyable than metro has been.
If true then DICE really are intent on causing trouble for themselves.

[Pooky]

What are you on about?

Well,


time-based exclusives and not pre-order exclusives.

I don't care what kind they are. Fuck. That.


Also, I haven't heard of anyone actually being banned. I think it's more of an empty threat to discourage playing on unfinished gametypes.

Oh, so threatening their customers for doing exactly what they were asked to do (beta test an unfinished game) doesn't count as treating them badly?

[jcap]

If DICE is concerned about people getting a bad opinion of a game based on unfinished gametypes, they are clearly oblivious to the state of the beta they've given us...

[Limited]

Lol, they absolutely cannot ban you from the retail version, for things you do in the BETA.

[=sw=warlord]

Lol, they absolutely cannot ban you from the retail version, for things you do in the BETA.
Their service, their rules.
They can.

[ThePlague]

Some of my Caspian Border footage from the other day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORQDBMf9cMg

[ExAm]

Wait wait wait wait wait

Banning people?

From a BETA?

That's the single dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life! It's a BETA! You should be fixing the exploit, not banning people for it!No, banning people from origin and all of their games.

[Pooky]

No, banning people from origin and all of their games.

:ugh:

And just when EA was starting to get a slightly better rep than Activision.

[Donut]

so i noticed in the weapon loadout menu, it doesnt show you all of your available shit like it does in bc2 (see plauges video). i watched a video of console bc2 that did something similar to pc bf3 beta. are they keeping that for retail? because that seems kind of stupid to use a console scheme on a pc when bc2's weapon loadout selection screen was pretty much the best loadout screen ever.

[ThePlague]

I'm pretty sure they do it the way they do in this is because of all the unlocks for weapons.

[dark navi]

My custom server still works.... ?

Running Squad DM if anyone wants to play, although it's rather full now.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/servers/show/fa7f17ce-fb50-4941-8880-8f3c2c7c2d99/Tespia/ (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/servers/show/fa7f17ce-fb50-4941-8880-8f3c2c7c2d99/Tespia/)

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

dude, send me your server files :D

[dark navi]

dude, send me your server files :D

Something is up with it, as in, I tried the files on a different machine and they didn't work. W.E., my server still functions. :)

e:


You are running a leaked BF3 beta server
Oct 02 2011 06:22:48 PM PT
DICE notified us that you are running a BF3 beta server, using the leaked beta files. We have blocked UDP to your IP 66.151.244.208 while you take care of this; contact us and let us know when it is resolved.

[Amit]

Who sent you that msg ^^

At least they aren't outright banning you.


dude, send me your server files :D

http://www.enterbf3.com/viewtopic.php?t=4734

[Ifafudafi]

you know if I were DICE I'd just accidentally leak the caspian server files, call it a travesty, warn anybody that you could get hacked!!! and then just sit back and collect oodles of data while generating tons of positive feedback

but I don't make games, what do I know

[Amit]

I'll just leave this here:

f7ypTsKqgGo&hd=1

[dark navi]

Who sent you that msg ^^

At least they aren't outright banning you.



http://www.enterbf3.com/viewtopic.php?t=4734

My hosting provider did. :( I assume that my server continued to function because they are one of the few ranked server providers that EA/DICE has authorized.

[Amit]

Yeah, but they said they'd reverse it once you take down the unauthorized server. It's not like they are terminating your service.

[dark navi]

Yeah, but they said they'd reverse it once you take down the unauthorized server. It's not like they are terminating your service.

That service only lasts two more days, then it switches over to a real BF3 server once they come up on the 25th. They are an awesome host, and the staff sympathized with me when I told them I just wanted to play on a non-shit server.

[Zeph]

I'll just leave this here:

f7ypTsKqgGo&hd=1

This seems like it would make a great team warfare league game. Even if people learn to shoot those down, can't you get a support to resupply them to you?

[Amit]

Even if people learn to shoot those down, can't you get a support to resupply them to you?

I would assume so. I would also assume there's a cooldown period between deployments, like the mortar strike in BC2.

[ejburke]

you know if I were DICE I'd just accidentally leak the caspian server files, call it a travesty, warn anybody that you could get hacked!!! and then just sit back and collect oodles of data while generating tons of positive feedback

but I don't make games, what do I knowYeah, I don't know what such a late beta hopes to accomplish. BF 1942 and BF2 both released single-map conquest demos over a month before those games shipped and they were crack. This whole situation seems like more and more of a fustercluck every time I think about it. They not only dropped the ball, they are kicking it down the field as they comically try to scoop it up.

[ThePlague]

So I heard you like amazing players:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxl6hSBm__A

Whaddup Slug rounds?

[jcap]

So apparently DICE are bigger cunts than Activision. Cool, looks like another good series ruined by total jackass executives

[PenGuin1362]

Interesting article on Kotaku. http://kotaku.com/5845851/frustrated-battlefield-rep-unloads-on-ungrateful-community

(http://kotaku.com/5845851/frustrated-battlefield-rep-unloads-on-ungrateful-community)Makes a good point about people bitching relentless about something DICE has provided for free for both their benefit and ours. And why would you complain if you get banned for using unauthorized server files? You didn't really buy the game (unless you're one of those people who puts all $60 down at pre-order) yet so they technically have every right to do what ever the hell they want. These guys are working their ass off to get this game out, give them a break and some respect.

Also M40 with iron sights is hilariously fun. Especially when you run in and capture the objective with it

[Amit]

Makes a good point about people bitching relentless about something DICE has provided for free for both their benefit and ours. And why would you complain if you get banned for using unauthorized server files? You didn't really buy the game (unless you're one of those people who puts all $60 down at pre-order) yet so they technically have every right to do what ever the hell they want. These guys are working their ass off to get this game out, give them a break and some respect.

Part of the issue is that people were using quickmatch which was placing them in unauthorized servers without their knowledge. It wasn't until they looked through their server history tab that they realized that they were a part of the crowd that DICE was warning. Still, nobody has been banned, so whatever.

[TeeKup]

This is the single funniest thing I've seen.
aXYspKL3fYc


EDIT: Also the MAV was probably the most wanted thing by Pooky in BC2. I'm going to have fun with that.

[Pooky]

These guys are working their ass off to get this game out, give them a break and some respect.


DICE quickmatches you to a leaked server,

threatens to ban you for playing the beta.


No, banning people from origin and all of their games.


It's a BETA! You should be fixing the exploit, not banning people for it!

No amount of hard work entitles them to be such colossal assholes, especially to their paying customers.

[=sw=warlord]

These guys are working their ass off to get this game out, give them a break and some respect.


If their content pipeline wasn't in such a shit way they wouldn't have halve as much trouble.
One developer mentioned some time ago it took them an entire week just to install the developer kit on their computer for working at home which included several calls out for technicians to get it working.
Working hard for an end result is one thing but working hard because the tools you use are barely strapped together by packing tape and knowing it is another.

[dark navi]

http://img.odinseye.org/images/3154571015.jpg

:iamafag:

[Zeph]

Interesting article on Kotaku. http://kotaku.com/5845851/frustrated-battlefield-rep-unloads-on-ungrateful-community

(http://kotaku.com/5845851/frustrated-battlefield-rep-unloads-on-ungrateful-community)Makes a good point about people bitching relentless about something DICE has provided for free for both their benefit and ours. And why would you complain if you get banned for using unauthorized server files? You didn't really buy the game (unless you're one of those people who puts all $60 down at pre-order) yet so they technically have every right to do what ever the hell they want. These guys are working their ass off to get this game out, give them a break and some respect.

Also M40 with iron sights is hilariously fun. Especially when you run in and capture the objective with it

Two things here. First, he gets payed, so his mighty high horse of "DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH WORK WE HAVE TO DO" doesn't count. Second, he mad.

[Amit]

You guys know you're still gonna play the fuck out of the game because it's better than BC2, so no need for bitching. We already know DICE isn't going to listen to a single thing we say until AFTER release.

[neuro]

whats funny, is that i personally know the Technical art director at dice personally.

[Cortexian]

I highly doubt that they will be banning people for JOINING unofficial servers, especially if the Quick Match feature was placing people into those servers. The people that will be banned are likely the people HOSTING the unofficial servers.

So, who's hosting a server with EXP gain increased and stuff? I want to try more classes with more than the starting weapons, and I don't have the time to level them all up.

[Amit]

Man, why even bother? The game is gonna be released in 3 weeks anyways. That's why I'm not playing much. If it was CB I would be playing to hell and back, but OM is sooooooooooooooo stale. I don't even want it included in the final game.

[PenGuin1362]

Two things here. First, he gets payed, so his mighty high horse of "DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH WORK WE HAVE TO DO" doesn't count. Second, he mad.

lol yeah, he mad.

But I get payed at my job, decently too for where I'm at. And it still doesn't help when you're pulling a 65 hour work week (almost consistently). Especially when you come into work on the following Monday to have someone tell you the project you just worked your ass off for for them wasn't exactly what they described (even though it is) Or someone who isn't even related to the project jumps in and fucks it allll up. So I understand where he's coming from.

[Limited]

Interesting article on Kotaku. http://kotaku.com/5845851/frustrated-battlefield-rep-unloads-on-ungrateful-community

(http://kotaku.com/5845851/frustrated-battlefield-rep-unloads-on-ungrateful-community)Makes a good point about people bitching relentless about something DICE has provided for free for both their benefit and ours. And why would you complain if you get banned for using unauthorized server files? You didn't really buy the game (unless you're one of those people who puts all $60 down at pre-order) yet so they technically have every right to do what ever the hell they want. These guys are working their ass off to get this game out, give them a break and some respect.

Also M40 with iron sights is hilariously fun. Especially when you run in and capture the objective with it
What a prick (the DICE guy).


"The vibe I'm getting now is just that tons of ungrateful people don't understand how much work we are putting on this game how many overtime hours we are doing and also how many meetings we are in to ship a game like this."

The previously paragraph

"Right now, I am not in the mood to even browse in here and check out most parts of the forum," Daniel Matros began on Sept. 20

He should not be saying 'we', he should be saying 'they', because hes not bothering to do this job, community manager my arse.


That is the purpose of the Beta as well as combining it with Battlelog and all of the features there.
What a total lie. The Battlelog does not have all the features in the beta. There is absolutely no squad based controls, and they video log already stated the Battlelog is what will control squads.

Do you guys actually know how much it would cost for the QA team to collect this amount of varied data, that they are getting from beta players? It would take hours and hours, and tens of thousands of dollars. I dont think they fully appreciate the amount of effort the 'ungrateful community' is putting in.

[Zeph]

That's why I always put redaction into my contracts. It's a bit different (IE you don't have a choice as a slave to the manager and the top never has good contracting sense) if you're working corporate, but for me if a client says he doesn't like something after signing off on it he gets penalized and pays hefty pro rata for however long it takes to find what they want. You'd be surprised how quickly clients lose that indecisive attitude.

As long as I get payed for my time, I don't care if projects get cancelled. Unless of course it's a bankruptcy and I lose my job.

[Limited]

That's why I always put redaction into my contracts. It's a bit different (IE you don't have a choice as a slave to the manager and the top never has good contracting sense) if you're working corporate, but for me if a client says he doesn't like something after signing off on it he gets penalized and pays hefty pro rata for however long it takes to find what they want. You'd be surprised how quickly clients lose that indecisive attitude.

As long as I get payed for my time, I don't care if projects get cancelled. Unless of course it's a bankruptcy and I lose my job.
I'm in a situation where I advise 'technically-not-my-boss' and VP on technological matters, they then agree and give the go-ahead and then months down the like change their mind and go against the rational of the reasoning originally used.

Yes its annoying, it bugs me and feels like they just change their mind willynilly, but at the end I'm there to do my job and be instructed by superiors. If I don't like that then I should quit. And then at the end of the project, if people turn around and question my decisions I can explain the situation.

The DICE guy isnt acting like that, hes not like "well we figured it was more beneficial to test the functionality given by Operation Metro and improvements made since the alpha", instead it was "well if you dont like that map, well then I guess we dont agree on what maps we should use".

DICE need to remember they are a business, or at least play a vital role in their business model, they need to respect their customers.

This feels like another Crysis 2 release, just worse.

[PenGuin1362]

Business, beta, and bug issues aside, anyone get the chance to use the jets in Caspian? Can you lock on to ground vehicles with them or does recon have to use the SOFLAM to designate the targets for planes?

[dark navi]

How would they possible detect who is hosting the game? I ran a dedicated server, but was only even in the game half the time.

[ExAm]

Business, beta, and bug issues aside, anyone get the chance to use the jets in Caspian? Can you lock on to ground vehicles with them or does recon have to use the SOFLAM to designate the targets for planes?I never got enough use out of them to unlock any extra munitions beyond flares. I don't imagine many others did either. Getting a jet is down to luck, most of the time.

[PenGuin1362]

Which makes me fear hardcore/FF enabled servers where it's going to be a giant TK fest for the jets >_< just like the apache in BC2

[Amit]

Which makes me fear hardcore/FF enabled servers where it's going to be a giant TK fest for the jets >_< just like the apache in BC2

People ignore the choppers in 500 and 1000 ticket servers. I read somewhere that missiles weren't included in the beta version of CB. I'm assuming you get a basic type straight away since the gatling gun does jack and shit to anything except other planes.

[TeeKup]

Um. My rank was reset. I have no idea why. I'm sort of pissed.

[jcap]

You sure your rank was reset? It's showing as Rank 13 for me. You may just be experiencing a glitch similar to when Reach is unable to retrieve player stats from the main server.

[PenGuin1362]

kind of shitty, but at least you know how you'll feel in a week when it actually happens for good :p <- that thing is retarded looking

[Guardian]

Managed to get 39967 points in one round on Metro (with all the medal scores) :D was freaking fun.

[ThePlague]

Um. My rank was reset. I have no idea why. I'm sort of pissed.Could've just been the server. Happened to me on a few. I exited them, went to another, and my rank was fine.

[TeeKup]

It's fine now.

[ThePlague]

Hay guise, 223 kills with my 870 :3

[StankBacon]

update in progress :o

[ThePlague]

I can't even login :C And I was thinking of getting some more gametime in before bed.

[Kornman00]

:p <- that thing is retarded looking
vB had to get matching retarded emotes to go with their fucking retarded...everything.

[ThePlague]

Were the new server files ever leaked?

[Guardian]

Can't Log in to battlelog.

[ExAm]

Battlelog is closed at the moment

[StankBacon]

Were the new server files ever leaked?

nope, the guy (http://thedefaced.net/forumdisplay.php?fid=10) hasn't leaked the new ones yet.

[TeeKup]

Hay guise, 223 kills with my 870 :3

Goddamn, I thought I whored that thing. It's honestly my most used weapon. I just unlocked 12 Gauge Slugs and the rifle scope. This thing makes the BC2 shotguns look like goddamn pussies. I fucking love it.

[PenGuin1362]

I have 700+ with the Mk11 only using Iron sights or Holo >_< (scopes are gay on snipers >.>) Also I just unlocked the M98 and noticed that the M39 isn't there D: anyone know if it's just not in the beta? or just bugged

[Amit]

It's not in the beta. People have enough points to have unlocked it twice over and still it's not available. That is sad since the M14 is the weapon I'm most interested about in the entire game and it'll be the one I try to unlock most quickly...which means I'll be playing Recon exclusively on launch...ugh.

[jcap]

At the moment, I think they are more focused on attempting to emulate the EA backend than releasing the server to everyone. If they release it, EA will take them down by tomorrow, and there would be no chance at privately researching the communications of a functional server. If they figure out how to get the serve running, I bet they will be able to easily force the client to join the server, even after the beta is over.

[Amit]

Would it still use the battlelog? Or could we connect by IP and go undetected by EA?

[jcap]

Again, this is only my guess based on my observations of how the game works...

If you think about Battlelog, despite how much I HATE joining games from my web browser, it may be useful for joining "unofficial" servers. The problem with most in-game server browsers is that they don't have a method of directly connecting to a server from outside the game, so if you aren't listed on the official list, it's impossible to join. But with Battlelog, the only way to join a server is from outside the game... Battlelog has to have some way of launching the game and joining a server directly, without an in-game browser. If they play their cards right, they should be able to create their own "fake" Battlelog (entirely separate from EA's authentication and server list) that establishes the connection to the server and lets you join.

[seanthelawn]

Anyone know what the hell this 3.9GB update is?

[Amit]

An interesting development:



According to an anonymous report BF3Blog received from inside Valve, the developer/publisher is currently in late-stage talks with EA in bringing Battlefield 3 to the Steam digital distribution service. The rumor says that Battlefield 3 would be available on Steam just in time for the game’s release on October 25.
According to the report, EA and Valve are very close to reaching an agreement regarding sales of DLC content, which is the main reason Battlefield 3 is not on Steam (http://bf3blog.com/2011/07/battlefield-3-release-on-steam-uncertain/): Valve requires that all DLC is sold through Steam, while EA would prefer to sell via its own channels. This was the cause of another EA title, Crysis 2, for being pulled from Steam earlier this year.
Many PC gamers have lobbied both EA and Valve to put Battlefield 3 on Steam for a while now. It looks like it’ll finally happen soon.
We’ve reached out to EA and Valve for a comment on this story.

Source
(http://bf3blog.com/2011/10/report-ea-and-valve-in-late-stage-talks-to-get-battlefield-3-to-steam/)
And what patch?

EDIT: Also, the Official Weapons page just went live: http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/media/tag/weapons
(http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/media/tag/weapons)
M39 EMR semi-auto only :(

[seanthelawn]

I tried to join a server like 20 minutes ago, and got a weird error that said something like "Disconnected unexpectedly. Is your game up to date?" or something like that. So I went to Origin, right-clicked BF3 Beta, checked for updates, and now this is happening:

http://i.imgur.com/rUJYT.png

[ThePlague]

Did you download the game originally with a torrent? Because the same thing happened to me, but it's just redownloading the game. It isn't an update.

[seanthelawn]

I originally downloaded it through Origin. Whatevs, it's done now.

[StankBacon]

i just checked for updates and it tried to re download the entire game again too.

i looked in my games folder and its downloading it to a a folder called "Battlefield 3 Beta", whereas the early access beta was in a folder named "Battlefield 3 Open Beta".

just rename the old folder to the new one so you don't have to re download and have 2 3+ GB folders.

[jcap]

When I right click the BF3 beta, I don't even have the option to check for updates... :confused:

[seanthelawn]

Wow you're right, I now have 2 copies of BF3 Beta on my computer. Cool.

[Amit]

just rename the old folder to the new one so you don't have to re download and have 2 3+ GB folders.

Oh yeah, that's what I did last thursday.

[PenGuin1362]

damn I'm like 20,000 points away from where the EMR would be I just wanted to see if it was worth it to get in the final : ( now i have to do it again >_<

[Cortexian]

My game is fine still, was no update needed that I can tell... Also, you guys need to stop complaining about a measly 3.9GB update for A BETA. 3.9GB is incredibly small, SW:TOR updates are usually 5GB+ at least, new builds require an entire re-download (20GB+).

[Boba]

Do you guys know if they are going to add a proper squad selection menu ingame?

[Donut]

My game is fine still, was no update needed that I can tell... Also, you guys need to stop complaining about a measly 3.9GB update for A BETA. 3.9GB is incredibly small, SW:TOR updates are usually 5GB+ at least, new builds require an entire re-download (20GB+).
im pretty sure thats NOT a normal size for the average game update.

so i played this game again, this time using my mouse's custom button function so i could actually USE its buttons ingame, and im noticing a couple things gameplay wise.

first off, fuck that flashlight entirely. my own god damn team mates blind me with it more than the enemy does, and when the enemy does point it at me all i can do is spray at the light and hope i hit something. i cant even tell if its an ally or not if theres a light in my face.

secondly, the laser sight is much less obnoxious, but it seems like its really not that useful unless youre getting up in the enemy's face and hipfire spraying them to death, which bears a gross resemblance to CoD gameplay. prone does too. i laid prone in grass yesterday and racked up 8 or 9 kills with an iron sight sniper rifle before somebody killed me by firing a rocket at the team mate that was teabagging me. i feel like as time goes on, the game (rush at least) is going to turn into snipers just humping hills. im not even a remotely decent sniper and i got plenty of kills doing that. the hipfire and prone thing combined with what i still believe is overall reduced health just makes the game feel a little too calladooty-ish. i remember somebody saying something about a damage bug, so that might be most of my issue, but at least in bc2 i can take a bullet or two and get behind a wall before i die. in this i dont even know im being shot until im on the ground. that health readout is very excellent though.

[=sw=warlord]

My game is fine still, was no update needed that I can tell... Also, you guys need to stop complaining about a measly 3.9GB update for A BETA. 3.9GB is incredibly small, SW:TOR updates are usually 5GB+ at least, new builds require an entire re-download (20GB+).
Not everyone has multi tera-byte drives in their systems let alone fiber-optic connections.

[ThePlague]

So, uhh...sup (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/tearshade/iteminfo/sg870/870MCS/297761203/pc/)?

[Cortexian]

im pretty sure thats NOT a normal size for the average game update.
My point is that these are NOT game updates. They're BETA updates.


Not everyone has multi tera-byte drives in their systems let alone fiber-optic connections.
I don't have a fiber connection... Again though, completely not my point.

[dark navi]

I torrented both the game and the update. Much faster than shit Origin.

[StankBacon]

there was no update..

also origin maxes out my connection just like steam.

[Amit]

Do you guys know if they are going to add a proper squad selection menu ingame?

Yes, confirmed yesterday.


there was no update...

This. What the fuck do people think was updated for 4GB? Jack shit?


My point is that these are NOT game updates. They're BETA updates.


Game updates, beta updates it doesn't matter. There is no usual size for an update. RO2 beta had larger than average but, small updates. RO2 actual has fucking 2.5GB patches every other week. There is no distinction between a beta update and a release update.

[=sw=warlord]

I don't have a fiber connection... Again though, completely not my point.
And you missed mine.
Not everyone has the connection to download multiple gigs for such a short beta, some don't even have the space to waste on that either.
Most updates I see are in the megabytes range not several gigabytes.

[Cortexian]

BETA updates are generally larger than their gold-release counterparts. At least that has been my experience with literally every beta I've ever played. It's because they have more time to optimize, compress, and streamline gold updates.

[Amit]

Well, MMOs and FPS games are two very different genres to begin with. MMO updates are expected to be very large, beta or not. FPS games are usually a few hundred MB or less, beta or not. 4GB would be unacceptable as an update whether is it a beta update or a full release update. HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE CASE. There is no update for BF3 Beta so why is there still discussion on it?

You guys want something to talk about? Talk about this:


Battlefield 3 getting in-game squad management after all (http://bf3blog.com/2011/10/battlefield-3-getting-in-game-squad-management-after-all/)





Battlefield players were quite upset over news that Battlefield 3 squad management was moved to Battlelog (http://bf3blog.com/2011/10/no-in-game-squad-management-in-battlefield-3/), forcing players to switch between the game and Battlelog in order to manage squads.

Luckily however, there are now some good news: DICE’s Barrie Tingle has posted on the Battlelog forums where he revealed that squad management will be available in-game in Battlefield 3. Tingle said, in an answer (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826551518966795507/3/) to a question regarding squads:


“In short answer form, yes you can browse and join squads through the squad screen and make private squads.”


The new in-game squad management won’t be updated into the beta, but will be available in the final game.

[Guardian]

Yus! I am sick of being stuck in Sniper squads.

[Amit]

BAUSS:

MowHukDMRzo&hd=1

[ThePlague]

I've been playing nothing but the Recon class, all because the weapons i've been using are universal, and the mobile spawnpoint helps me more than anything.

[Guardian]

https://www.facebook.com/battlefield 1st post at 11:20pm NZ time.

Caspians going back up is what its saying.

Edit: Joining a 2 ping server and im getting kicked because PB is kicking people when they join.

[Amit]

CASPIAN BORDER IS UP FOR EVERYONE. GET IT HOT AND FRESH.

[Ifafudafi]

Well I'd hoped to play some caspian but instead this was my BF3 experience:

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WHO DO I HAVE TO BLOW TO OH MY GOOOOD

In other news, there's an interview here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/oct/07/battlefield-3-preview-interview) which includes quotes such as these:


What made you decide to run the beta with [Operation Metro]? Some people have said that it's a shame you chose a level without vehicles…
Yeah, I think there's been a misunderstanding of the term 'beta test'! We ran the alpha tests with a rush map and we wanted to have some sort of reference so we could compare results – so we needed to have more-or-less the same map. But we do understand the concerns that we didn't show a conquest map, but we have demoed Caspian Border, and we did run a conquest map as a limited PC-only test.


So the purpose of the beta has been entirely about testing the infrastructure?
Yeah, we just wanted to know it wouldn't crash and burn at launch. It was horrible with Battlefield 1943 – it sold ten times the numbers we thought it would, and it was down for three or four days which is really bad. We don't want to go through that again.

Even if it wasn't intended as a PR demo, with the knowledge that untold millions will be coming in without an intent to purchase the game, I personally would've made sure to show my game off at its best and most complete, but again, I just make HCE mods, what do I know

(and either way, they do have CB servers up now so I guess it's cool)

[Donut]

in other words its an alpha 2.

so theyre this close to release, and this beta is about testing infrastructure of the game? albeit, it ran a lot more smoothly for me when i played a few days ago than the first day, thats a little crazy if the goal is to make sure its not going to break on release day. i predict patches out the ass shortly following this game's release.

[Ifafudafi]

Finally got into a Caspian server, and IMMA NEVER GONNA LEAVE THIS GAME KICKS ASS

only problem is my UI's glitched and I can't see teammate's names/enemy spot icons on my HUD but hey, I'm finally playing Battlefield rather than Medal of Honor: Bad Company 3

[ThePlague]

What's up with the "kicked by an administrator" bullshit?

[Cortexian]

Kicked by admin is just a server dropping your connection and displaying the wrong reason bug.

[Nero]

I keep getting kicked out. Lol. Not even going to bother anymore.

[ThePlague]

I keep getting kicked out. Lol. Not even going to bother anymore.:like:

[Guardian]

People dont read my posts do they.

PB is kicking people for no reason. It seems to only effect some people but if you want to play, go to Non PB servers.

[ThePlague]

I thought PB was disabled for the beta?

[Guardian]

Yeah Idk, but I can join non PB servers but PB ones I get kicked from within 10 seconds.

[Longshot]

Having a blast on CP, this is what BF is all about.

Anybody know a good way to compress raw video? I fraps'd some cool shit and I wouldn't mind uploading it to youtube or making a few gifs.

http://i.imgur.com/FWgBL.jpg

[ThePlague]

Yeah Idk, but I can join non PB servers but PB ones I get kicked from within 10 seconds.Yeah. I changed my filters to show only non PB servers and I was just in a game for 3 rounds and no kick :)

@Longshot; Download the trial for Adobe Premiere CS5.5. It's what I use.

[ThePlague]

More BF3 news, and it's juicy.

Planes, Tanks, and Automobiles. (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/119/1198929p1.html)

Operation Firestorm (MP):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lu4aXZcTvrU

Grand Bazaar (MP):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eadv2eLxnU

[TeeKup]

I'm really liking the look of Grand Bazaar, I enjoy maps with a wet rainy feel to them. Combat spaces and sightlines look to offer some awesome shotgun action (stares at my M1014).

[Cortexian]

(stares at my M1014).
Buying one of these IRL as soon as I can sell my SBE.

[TeeKup]

Haven't been to an airsoft meet in forever, sadly my M56C (based off the M1014) is just collecting dust. ._.

[Cortexian]

Not an airsoft one, a real one.

Anyway, once you get the hang of flying with a mouse it's much superior to the keyboard only flying...
http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/Freelancer852/iteminfo/jfF18/Vehicle%20Air%20Jet%20Fighter%20F18/210912874/pc/

[Amit]

Mouse flying is manageable with jets. It downright sucks worse than BC2 for helis tho. Need joystick support ASAP.

[dark navi]

Got into a heli, instantly crashed. Why can I not figure these controls out?

[Cortexian]

Mouse flying works fine for me in the helicopters... Also:
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/5469/jetwinning.jpg

Started the game spawned in a jet, ended in the same jet. 3,700 points worth of disables/destroys/spot assists/other things you get while flying around.

[Donut]

i have never been able to fly any vehicle in this series ever. and from the looks of things, quite a few other people share that sentiment. i was in a game in bc2 a few days ago where 5 team mates and i just circled around a chopper and looked at each other for a good 15 seconds before i finally got in, got about 50 feet of air (while going backwards), crashed into a hill, and bailed out before the thing burst into flames.

god i wish bc2 supported replays lol.

[Warsaw]

Got into a heli, instantly crashed. Why can I not figure these controls out?
Because you're trying to fly the helo as if you were playing a shooter; nothing to be ashamed about, it just seems right, right? Well, it's not that straightforward. When you hit your steering keys, they don't do quite the same thing they do on the ground. Think about movement from the point of view of a helicopter: you are trying to tip it in the appropriate direction so you can get motion. You need to aim down to go forward, pull up to move backwards, roll left to strafe left, roll right to strafe right. Also remember that the mouse control is on an analogue plane (I think). Move forward, then re-centre the mouse position so you don't keep rolling forward and flip out.

Personally, I leave the flying to those who already have the practice; I'd rather do a job well and retain a good K/D and score than piss everyone off with my so-so helicopter skills. I'll take the gun, though. I'm good with the gun.

[Amit]

I was using the VADs thing in the US base last night. I was shooting at anything that flew within my view. Some dumbass kept flying his Flanker into me. He did the kamikaze thing 3 times in a row and didn't even notice that I was still at 100% HP in it. I just don't know why he didn't pick engineer, fly over the base, jump out and then shoot rockets at me. That would have fucked me up, but no, he decided to waste his team's valuable resources: vehicles, tickets, and time.

[Cortexian]

I'll take the gun, though. I'm good with the gun.
On that note; I don't understand how people are so terrible at using the helicopter gun... Some people just can't hit anything if their life depended on it (and it usually does), and then there are some people who hop in (on Caspian Border) and only try and shoot down jets. I just don't get how some people can be so terrible with such an overpowered lolcannon. The gun in the helicopter on BF3 can RAPE tanks in a few shots (unlike the one in BC2), and the AOE damage of the thing is insane, on top of that, add to the fact that the bursts last twice as long or longer than the bursts in the BC2 heli.

Hell, it's easier then running around even, since all you need to do is look around, zoom, and shoot.


I was using the VADs thing in the US base last night. I was shooting at anything that flew within my view. Some dumbass kept flying his Flanker into me. He did the kamikaze thing 3 times in a row and didn't even notice that I was still at 100% HP in it. I just don't know why he didn't pick engineer, fly over the base, jump out and then shoot rockets at me. That would have fucked me up, but no, he decided to waste his team's valuable resources: vehicles, tickets, and time.
I guess you haven't tried it yet, but there's an out-of-bounds area around the majority of the enemy teams base to prevent spawn killing. So doing the engineer thing wouldn't have worked either. Also, the VADS thing (not the LAV-AD) is indestructible to anything to prevent air-camping.

<3 this.

[Guardian]

Need to be able to uninvert mouse controls for flying like in BC2

[Amit]

On that note; I don't understand how people are so terrible at using the helicopter gun... Some people just can't hit anything if their life depended on it (and it usually does), and then there are some people who hop in (on Caspian Border) and only try and shoot down jets. I just don't get how some people can be so terrible with such an overpowered lolcannon. The gun in the helicopter on BF3 can RAPE tanks in a few shots (unlike the one in BC2), and the AOE damage of the thing is insane, on top of that, add to the fact that the bursts last twice as long or longer than the bursts in the BC2 heli.

Not to mention there's hardly any bullet drop effect on the cannon rounds.

[TeeKup]

I swear the general incompetence is going to kill my interest in this game. No body fucking listens, everyone just splits off and does their own shit, meanwhile some level 42 douche (in a goddamn beta) is running around with a squad owning EVERYONE properly. People are so fucking skittish to disarm the bombs it's ridiculous. Particularly with MCOM A on Set 2 on Metro. Then again maybe it's just Metro.

[Limited]

Some people just can't hit anything if their life depended on it (and it usually does), and then there are some people who hop in (on Caspian Border) and only try and shoot down jets. I just don't get how some people can be so terrible with such an overpowered lolcannon.


Hell, it's easier then running around even, since all you need to do is look around, zoom, and shoot.I was in a server yesterday evening, both enemy jets had stealth and flares and always spammed them when you tried to shoot them down. It was impossible to kill them, even using all the AA guns at our disposal. I tried to take them out with my jet, gun kept over heating :(


I got video I'ma upload soon, I absolutely love jet flying, especially dogfights in the air, I hope (but doubt) theres a level in the retail where its literally just jet fighting, no other vehicles or guns :D.

[dark navi]

They did it in BF1943, why not in this?

Soo, I can't really play Caspian Boarder because of this random shit:
http://img.odinseye.org/images/bf3glitch.png


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4M7Futbl5Y

[Amit]

do you have bf3 beta drivers for your GPU?

[dark navi]

I got them when the beta first came out, I suppose they may have been updated since then.

[ExAm]

Chopper run vids from yesterday, recorded by my awesome gunnerpal Mojo

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[Cortexian]

I absolutely love jet flying, especially dogfights in the air, I hope (but doubt) theres a level in the retail where its literally just jet fighting, no other vehicles or guns :D.
There probably won't be a jet only level, but there might be server mods for that.

My jet is pretty much all pimped out now, but the first three unlocks are really the only ones worth using. Stealth, Flares, and Heatseekers. If you end up going head-to-head with another decent pilot with those and you don't' have Stealth or Flares you're owned. I may try swapping Stealth out for something, since I haven't noticed it being a huge help since I got it.

I actually had an amazing wing-man one game, literally some Top Gun stuff going on. There was no ground interference and I had a good wing-man who kept baiting both the other fighters onto him, then I'd show up from the outskirts of the map after they were both neatly in line behind him, fire both HS at one, quick burst of gun to get the destroy and kill, then gun the other one down to disabled and let my wing-man take the kill with HS. It was awesome.

@Exam: lol first video ending.

[ExAm]

Also, those of you getting kicked from servers need to uninstall and reinstall punkbuster.

Ninjatank shenanigans :v:
http://i.imgur.com/5jJbS.png

[Limited]

Woah, thats some nice flying Exam :D

Heres some footage I took. Running all low settings so FPS is fairly decent. I've only taken out one plane in my BF3 career, although this was the first day for flying jets for me :) (and I didnt play BF2).

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[Donut]

omfg was the guy named foehammer flying one of those planes?

[ExAm]

This just in: Freelancer sucks at aiming. L2rudder :v:

[TVTyrant]

Damn, Caspian isn't up for the seXBox and my PC won't run this...

fuck.

[Cortexian]

This just in: Freelancer sucks at aiming. L2rudder :v:
I suck at aiming? What? Did you think I posted that last video?

[TeeKup]

Nice flying ExAm. Was really funny seeing how fucked that one Flanker was by the two Hornets.

[ExAm]

I suck at aiming? What? Did you think I posted that last video?Oh, whoops.

[ExAm]

Nice flying ExAm. Was really funny seeing how fucked that one Flanker was by the two Hornets.That and the fact that my gunner fucking KILLS JETS with the chaingun.

[Limited]

omfg was the guy named foehammer flying one of those planes?He was indeed :D

[Amit]

That and the fact that my gunner fucking KILLS JETS with the chaingun.

Jets are easy to kill with the cannon as long as the pilot gets into position.

EDIT: AHAHAHAHA (http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/forum/threadview/2826564925965527307/)

[StankBacon]

lol... wow.

[Cortexian]

To clarify, this is how I fly jets:
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[Caboos001]

Some nice flying there, my chopper escapades usually end within 30 second of takeoff, in an explosion of AA fire and Stingers.

Hey I need some help here, I'm debating on upgrading my graphics card for a bit of a performance boost. Right now I'm running on a GTX 460, I'm able to play the game fine on high settings at a solid 30 FPS or so. However, I'm noticing some dips in performance when walking around in heavily vegetated areas or when in the midst of a lot of effects during a fire fight. Of course me being the graphics whore I am, turning down my settings is not an option for me. I was looking at picking myself up a GTX 560 Ti to give the game that extra oomph. Now, I'm just curious, do any of you think it will improve the overall experience enough to warrant the upgrade?

[Cortexian]

Another 460 in SLI will give you WAAAAY better performance than a single GTX 560 Ti.

In that jets video of mine I was on High settings while recording Fraps at 60 FPS running 1920x1200. I don't play on Ultra since it doesn't seem to give any graphical boost, yet it runs at 10 FPS or so lower than High... That's with two GTX 470's in SLI, without Fraps I usually get 80 - 110 FPS on High settings, GTX 460's would get at least 60 - 80 and probably better.

Also; Here's a couple videos of F2000 gameplay on Operation Metro that I uploaded:
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It's one complete game in two parts.

[TeeKup]

Your team mates are retarded. Also why would you approach the front of the escalators, thats suicide. I normally run around the back with the 870 when they're all clustered like that. You did very well, there were a lot of derpy deaths but then again when are there not in battlefield.

-sigh- I really want this for PC damnit.

[ejburke]

My motto: never ever SLI/Crossfire, unless you have a graphics card duplicating machine that runs on love and is operated by pennies. That rule is right up there with "Never buy the extended service plan" for me. You will be wealthier and happier over the course of your life the sooner you put it into effect.

If you really can't tolerate lowered settings, then I suggest going ahead with the single-card upgrade and selling off your current card to recoup some of the cost. Just make sure that card has the oomph you;re looking for. I can't speak on that.

[Limited]

28 guests? Damn..

So beta is closed sadly :(, I was owning it up as chopper gunner for some guy who was fantastic at flying, did take some videos but not sure if I'll upload.

I feel flares are too overpowered in jets, once a jet has flares and heatseekers they are super hard to take out, and they own any jets trying to take them out.

[Longshot]

Had an absolute blast with the beta despite it's obvious flaws.

I absolutely love planting C4 on jeeps and running them into tanks/mobile AA, I did this for about 2 games right before the beta ended. I managed to capture some rad footage through fraps as well.

I'm not sure if anybody can answer this or not, but would recording onto a solid state hard drive be easier for recording from fraps? Hopefully it would eliminate the frame drops.

I really hope admins can customize servers to every little detail, like weapon damage, enable/disable 3d spotting/vehicle regen, etc. I'd love to emulate BF 2 on the Karkand expansion.

[Limited]

I'm not sure if anybody can answer this or not, but would recording onto a solid state hard drive be easier for recording from fraps? Hopefully it would eliminate the frame drops.

Always record your fraps videos onto a different hard drive than your OS/BF3 install. If your secondary hard drive is a solid state drive then fantastic, it should help tremendously. If you only have 1 HDD and its solid state drive it will help a little bit more than just having 1 regular HDD.

[Amit]

Caspian Border RUSH screenshots (w/ UH-1Y Venom and A-10 Thunderbolt II):

http://i.imgur.com/mBAwM.png
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Here's the full gallery: http://imgur.com/a/49suq#2

And here's the videos in 1080p:

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And some air-to-ground missile play (lol dive bombing at 3:45)

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[cheezdue]

I absolutely love planting C4 on jeeps and running them into tanks/mobile AA, I did this for about 2 games right before the beta ended. I managed to capture some rad footage through fraps as well.



Limited called me a douche when I C4'd his tank. c:

[Warsaw]

Is there hat-look support in BF3? Like, can you look around without turning the aircraft? Also, that bouncing may be because you are moving fast.

[Limited]

Limited called me a douche when I C4'd his tank. c:
No one messes with my ride...:maddowns:

[Donut]

obviously he does :realsmug:

so is the jet flying in this worth getting a flight sim joystick? by get, i mean steal it from my cousin, so the real question is how is the flying? is it like, flight sim combat grade?

[ThePlague]

Between the arrow keys and m/kb, arrow keys and wasd worked better for me. I tried hooking up my joystick, but the buttons were all fucked and I gave up.

[Warsaw]

Is there hat-look support in BF3? Like, can you look around without turning the aircraft? Also, that bouncing may be because you are moving fast.

Bump.

[Amit]

There obviously is since Derplancer used it in his video. I never figured out the key to activate the free look, though. I forgot to recheck the controls menu which most definitely would have told me which one it is.

[Cortexian]

I never used a joystick, so I don't know if the hat key is auto-bound to that. If you hold down Ctrl while in the cockpit view your mouse movements turn into a hat-look style view. I did it in the beginning of my jets video.

The only problem I had with mouse/keyboard is that when you're turning/pulling up you'll eventually run your mouse off the surface it's on. Need a joystick to compensate for that. I have a Saitek joystick that I'll have to try when the game is released.

[Warsaw]

There obviously is since Derplancer used it in his video. I never figured out the key to activate the free look, though. I forgot to recheck the controls menu which most definitely would have told me which one it is.

Mouse + Keyboard != Hat switch.

Good to know there is support for looking, but actual hat-switch support is spotty outside of real sims, and even in some sims it is implemented terribly (see: IL2: Wings of Prey).

[cheezdue]

The only problem I had with mouse/keyboard is that when you're turning/pulling up you'll eventually run your mouse off the surface it's on.

This. I just used my good ol' keyboard for flying. My only complaint was having to unlock flares and missiles for the jet and chopper. I was only able to take down one jet and a chopper throughout the entire beta when I was flying a jet. :c Also the damn helis need a damn health buff. Anybody could take those down easily.

[Warsaw]

After the bollocks that was heli circle-strafing on Atacama, can you honestly blame them for nerfing the helicopters?

It's typical DICE. There's always one borderline game-breaking feature in a Battlefield game. Sometimes they fix it, but when they do, it always results in another borderline game-breaking feature.

[Amit]

I never used a joystick, so I don't know if the hat key is auto-bound to that. If you hold down Ctrl while in the cockpit view your mouse movements turn into a hat-look style view. I did it in the beginning of my jets video.

The only problem I had with mouse/keyboard is that when you're turning/pulling up you'll eventually run your mouse off the surface it's on. Need a joystick to compensate for that. I have a Saitek joystick that I'll have to try when the game is released.

I tried Ctrl+Mouse since that's how it works in most game that has the function. I got nothing.


Mouse + Keyboard != Hat switch.

Good to know there is support for looking, but actual hat-switch support is spotty outside of real sims, and even in some sims it is implemented terribly (see: IL2: Wings of Prey).

That's all a hat switch is, except the hat is less controllable since it swings in whatever direction to desire to look, but quickly and not precisely. On a joystick the hat switch is just assignments of which direction to look. I plugged in my Saitek Cyborg 3D Gold USB to try it out with the beta, but I forgot to check if it works and the beta ended.


After the bollocks that was heli circle-strafing on Atacama, can you honestly blame them for nerfing the helicopters?


There's so much other shit to take down air vehicles now, though. They don't need to be nerfed.


Also, Battlefield 3 to have day one patch (http://bf3blog.com/2011/10/battlefield-3-day-one-patch/), maplist:

Battlefield 3 maps

Operation Metro
Caspian Border
Operation Firestorm
Grand Bazaar
Kharg Island
Tehran Highway
Siene Crossing
Nosharh Crossing
Damavand Peak
On top of that, there’s four Back to Karkand (http://bf3blog.com/battlefield-3-back-to-karkand/) maps as well, which we’ve known for a while:
Strike At Karkand
Gulf of Oman
Wake Island
Sharqi Peninsula

[Cortexian]

Gulf of Oman was always one of my favorite maps. Carrier assaults were awesome.

In addition, is anyone else really pumped to try the campaign? I know I'm going to sit down and finish it in one sitting ASAP. I'll be recording it all with Fraps as well and uploading to YouTube fast.

EDIT: You know what I would love to see a modern game do for the Benelli M4/M1014? Ghost loading. It could function like when you empty a magazine, reload, charge (-1 round from mag), then press reload again to make sure the mag has a full 30 rounds so you get 31 instead of 30. For ghost loading an M1014 it would be: load chamber, load magazine, ghost load a round after pressing reload again.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, ghost loading or "floating" means placing a shotgun shell on the feed plate of a Benelli autoloading shotgun. See this video:
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[Guardian]

Defiantly keen for the campaign will be sitting down and demolishing that in one shot as well, and very excited for Back to Karkand, just pre-ordered it even though my laptop died and probably wont be back from repairs till after the 25th (Blue Screens on start up and wont do a factory reset).

[Amit]

Whoa that shotgun ghost loading is crazy. Looks too complex for video game reloading, though. I can only see it being loaded that way in uber-realistic PC Tom Clancy games.

[dark navi]

I want Bridge Too Far... :(

[Cortexian]

Actually, I just tried it on our shotgun and there's no way to do it effectively when you load the chamber first like they do in the game (for obvious reasons).

[Warsaw]

@Amit: Believe me, you can get some serious precision out of a hat-switch, I can attest to that and so can Ross.

[Cortexian]

:ross:

[CN3089]

UJurYPXA_uw

[Amit]

Nice:

jdj7dTk_uLY

[TeeKup]

n4CdLd9w2L0

I'm going to abuse THE SHIT out of this gun.

[Limited]

Jets
Keyboard + Mouse
Mouse is utterly crap, way too slow, if I increase sensitivity then I cannot aim my guns without spazzing out.

Keyboard + Arrow Keys
More managable, its what I used in the video I posted.

Xbox 360 Controller
Takes a while to get used to, but its what I will use in the retail for helicopter and jets - Note there is no hat-switch, I tried all buttons and nothing. Also LB is shoot weapon.

Can someone explain Back to Kirkland, is it DLC, pre-order only, do I have to buy LE?

[TeeKup]

^ Those controls seem really irritating. I don't know why they just don't map the rudders to the bumpers, acceleration and braking to the triggers, missiles to the B button and the Gun to the A button. That is by far the most ergonomic scheme.

[Amit]

Jets
Keyboard + Mouse
Mouse is utterly crap, way too slow, if I increase sensitivity then I cannot aim my guns without spazzing out.

Keyboard + Arrow Keys
More managable, its what I used in the video I posted.

Xbox 360 Controller
Takes a while to get used to, but its what I will use in the retail for helicopter and jets - Note there is no hat-switch, I tried all buttons and nothing. Also LB is shoot weapon.

Can someone explain Back to Kirkland, is it DLC, pre-order only, do I have to buy LE?

LOL Back to Kirkland? Jesus the names I see. It's called Back to Karkand. All pre-orders from official sources get it. All Limited Editions get it as well. I bought from an unofficial source that has ordered physical copies of the Limited Edition. Those will get it, too.

[TeeKup]

This man is boss.
3P27vnyN8iI

[ThePlague]

More footage of Op Firestorm and Grand Bazaar:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyjFFQMVJXo

[Amit]

More footage, but it's not new. It's just a cut up of the full developer commentary videos. It's a nice little preview to show people, though.

[Limited]

LOL Back to Kirkland? Jesus the names I see. It's called Back to Karkand. All pre-orders from official sources get it. All Limited Editions get it as well. I bought from an unofficial source that has ordered physical copies of the Limited Edition. Those will get it, too.
Hey I've only seen it written down once, so excuse me for reading it and then typing it 10 minutes later whilst trying to guess what I read without bothering to Google it to make sure I don't look foolish in a forum post..!


^ Those controls seem really irritating. I don't know why they just don't map the rudders to the bumpers, acceleration and braking to the triggers, missiles to the B button and the Gun to the A button. That is by far the most ergonomic scheme.
Some of the buttons do make zero sense, X didnt seem to do anything, unless it was reload and I didnt realise. The reason LB is used is so you can use your thumbs to constantly fly and aim the jet and then your index finger can fire.

And damn that guy can snipe, I bet all his enemies thought he was aimbotting.

[Cortexian]

UJurYPXA_uw
Did that all the time when I got shot down and had a lock-on launcher with me.


Nice:

jdj7dTk_uLY
Only works when the guy behind you is terrible, I tried it a couple times but usually just got destroyed.


Jets
Keyboard + Mouse
Mouse is utterly crap, way too slow, if I increase sensitivity then I cannot aim my guns without spazzing out.

Keyboard + Arrow Keys
More managable, its what I used in the video I posted.

Xbox 360 Controller
Takes a while to get used to, but its what I will use in the retail for helicopter and jets - Note there is no hat-switch, I tried all buttons and nothing. Also LB is shoot weapon.
Whoa what? Mouse is way to slow? It's like 100% faster than using the arrow keys to turn... Arrow keys have a fixed speed, mouse is limited to what the aircraft can do.


This man is boss.
3P27vnyN8iI
Just wow.

[nuttyyayap]

^ Those controls seem really irritating. I don't know why they just don't map the rudders to the bumpers, acceleration and braking to the triggers, missiles to the B button and the Gun to the A button. That is by far the most ergonomic scheme.

Too much like Ace Combat, Buddy.

[TeeKup]

Uh...exactly? Ace combat has had a perfect scheme, try and emulate it. I'm sorry but battlefield has had shitty controls on consoles.

[seanthelawn]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbAl5NIFRGQ

XbAl5NIFRGQ

[Ifafudafi]

Was that the antenna in Caspian coming down at 0:16?

Please tell me that's in MP and we can stop fucking wookies from camping there

[cheezdue]

Was that the antenna in Caspian coming down at 0:16?

Please tell me that's in MP and we can stop fucking wookies from camping there

Let's hope, I would love pulling of some type of Micheal Bay movie action stuff with that thing collapsing.

[CN3089]

i always collapsed the space needle when I was playing world in conflict :colbert:

[Cortexian]

Was that the antenna in Caspian coming down at 0:16?

Please tell me that's in MP and we can stop fucking wookies from camping there
It sure does look like it... I was wondering if maybe that was what happened on Rush after that point was lost/taken.

[dark navi]

I feel like that would happen in a campaign version of that map, although I suppose that DICE may have done something right...

[Amit]

I don't think the Fighter jets are available in Rush on Caspian Border, just the Thunderbolt II, Venom, Frogfoot, and Kasatka. So that rules out the scene shown as a Rush game. I'm pretty sure somebody from DICE stated not long after Saspian border debuted that the antenna tower can be knocked down. I assume what we saw was a regular Conquest game.

Btw, you can customize your appearance in BF3: http://battlefieldo.com/customize-appearance-battlefield-3/

(http://battlefieldo.com/customize-appearance-battlefield-3/)

[Cortexian]

I guess I never really saw anyone trying to knock the antenna down... Though I did shoot at one of the cable anchor-points many times with a tank and it yielded no damage.

[Amit]

I guess I never really saw anyone trying to knock the antenna down... Though I did shoot at one of the cable anchor-points many times with a tank and it yielded no damage.

Remember, DICE turned down destruction in the Alpha Trial and Beta. I've shot multiple tank rounds at the base to test it out and it never came down, so we know destruction was not fully enabled.

[Cortexian]

Yeah, I found myself forgetting that it was a back-end beta test more than a play-test beta. Many people never even understood the concept of beta testing the back-end features, the ones that complained all the time...

[Zeph]

This man is boss.
3P27vnyN8iI
There a rangefinder or did he take the time to figure it out by wasting ammo?

[ThePlague]

There a rangefinder or did he take the time to figure it out by wasting ammo?Well once you figure out the bullet drop amount per distance, it's pretty easy to estimate how high to aim (at least it is for me in BC2).

[Ifafudafi]

2415

[seanthelawn]

Probably one of my all-time favorite gifs.

[Amit]

BattleBlog #13: Official Multiplayer Maps Reveal (http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/13/battleblog-13-from-the-streets-of-paris-to-the-outskirts-of-tehran-battlefield-3-multiplayer-map-reveal.aspx)

There's too much info to quote so just read it at the source.

[Ifafudafi]

Can't help but notice the internal MPxxx designations for the maps go up to 15 despite there only being nine maps.

One part of me says DICE is just scrapping failed ideas but the other, more cynical one can't help but look over at the $15 four-map CoD DLC and wonder if EA has the unholy nuts to do likewise

[Amit]

Can't help but notice the internal MPxxx designations for the maps go up to 15 despite there only being nine maps.

One part of me says DICE is just scrapping failed ideas but the other, more cynical one can't help but look over at the $15 four-map CoD DLC and wonder if EA has the unholy nuts to do likewise

Considering the amount of work and polish and design that goes into a BF3 map, I'm doubtful that they pulled from the original game to sell as DLC later. CoD maps are shit and don't take half the time to make as a BF3 map would.

Check out this mapname list:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/animal187/user23_pic7_1267298898.jpg

You can see that mapnames are sporadic. If you look at Port Valdez it says mp_012. It was one of the first maps to be revealed for BC2. I can't find the current full maplist, but I don't think the DLC maps were in between Laguna Presa (mp_009) and Port Valdez, which would indicate maps that were cut, finished, and released again (but they were free DLC).

[Phopojijo]

Well, Back to Karkand has 4 maps... that makes 13 and is coming up in November.

[Amit]

Change your Origin name, now available:


This is no joke, thanks to a user on Reddit, you can actually change your Origin Master ID via EA’s Scrabble app on iOS and Android. We tried it ourselves and it does work!

You can download the Srabble Free app for iOS here
(http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/scrabble-free/id408492483?mt=8)
I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about Battlefield 3 using your Origin ID. If you set your Origin ID before realizing what it was going to be used for it is actually pretty easy to change if you have an iOS device.

Simply download Scrabble Free for iOS and then log in with your Origin account. Once you’ve logged in go to settings (the little gear in the bottom left corner) and then click on “Edit Account” and there you go. You can change your username to something you are more comfortable with

Source (http://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield3/comments/larya/how_to_change_your_origin_id/)

[Sanctus]

...I can't find the current full maplist, but I don't think the DLC maps were in between Laguna Presa (mp_009) and Port Valdez, which would indicate maps that were cut, finished, and released again (but they were free DLC).

I agree with Amit. This is probably the more likely of the possibilities. It might also indicate there were maps that were started but then just scrapped.

[StankBacon]

fuck, i got a wp7 phone so i cant change my name.

:\

[ExAm]

Tell them your Origin ID is the same as your bank account ID, or tell them it's your password. They'll scramble to change it for you.

[Amit]

LOL Nice. As the opprtunity arises I'll find someone with an iOS or Android device. iOS should be simple enough since A LOT of people have an iPod touch or iPhone.

[Cortexian]

Don't you mean they'll Scrabble to change it for you?

Zing!

[ExAm]

2415
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l2youtube

[Amit]

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[neuro]

why the fuck consoles, i get pissed off just LOOKING at it the way it's controlled. how can people play this shit (consoles), you can't aim for fuck.

hitting EVERYTHING AROUND a target, except for the target itself.

[Amit]

That was pretty brutal to watch, but it doesn't look like the person playing was used to a controller.

[Kornman00]

That...was horrible.

[TeeKup]

PS3's have shitty controls for shooters.

EDIT: yeah that was embarrassing. On a side note I'm debating on getting XIM3 for my xbox so I don't have to deal with its own limited controls. Thoughts?

[Cortexian]

@Xim3 ask Pyong, I think he has one.

Or just get a good PC so you get better controls AND better graphics (also more players in your maps bro)

[dark navi]

Is the limit for consoles still 18 players per game?

[Cortexian]

32 total on the big maps IIRC.

[Kornman00]

PS3's have shitty controls for shooters.
I had a feeling that was on the PS3. The dpad selector thing was my first hint, the amount of shitty shit going on was my second.

[Warsaw]

Is the limit for consoles still 18 players per game?

It was 24 for Bad Company 2, and it's still capped at 24 according to everything I've read from DICE.

[Amit]

Battleblog #14: Multiplayer Map Reveal, Part II (http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2011/10/14/multiplayer-map-reveal-part-ii.aspx)

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

PS3's have shitty controls for shooters.

EDIT: yeah that was embarrassing. On a side note I'm debating on getting XIM3 for my xbox so I don't have to deal with its own limited controls. Thoughts?
I've got the xim3, definitely worth it, especially with its controller converter coming up :)

[TVTyrant]

Video was deleted by user :(

[Pooky]

PS3's have shitty controls for shooters.

Playstation controllers fucking own the Xbox controller when it comes to sidescrollers though, you gotta give them that.

[Warsaw]

Only because the Xbox has a shitty D-pad. I'd sooner buy a Razer Onza than use a PlayStation-layout controller for anything.

[Amit]

The thumbsticks on the playstation controller are too close together and too rounded at the top (making my fingers slip off them). The DualShock 3 still feels more solid than a XBOX 360 controller, though. I loved the XBOX controller-s more, but that's probably just nostalgia.

[Pooky]

Only because the Xbox has a shitty D-pad. I'd sooner buy a Razer Onza than use a PlayStation-layout controller for anything.

I have a Razer Onza, the playstation layout is still better. I like having the d-pad in an easier to reach place.

[TVTyrant]

The DualShock is the best design in my view for aything other than fps games, and its not too bad at that either. I think the 360 controller is the best FPS controller though. It just feels right for the job.

[Pooky]

The DualShock is the best design in my view for aything other than fps games, and its not too bad at that either. I think the 360 controller is the best FPS controller though. It just feels right for the job.

This. Tried playing Mega Man with various xbox controllers, can't stand the dpad being down there. Xbox controller is perfect for shooters though. <3 you CoD 4 and your absolutely flawless aiming controls.

[TeeKup]

The 360 controller would be perfect for consoles if the D-stick was a D-pad. Seriously, fuck the D-stick.

[Amit]

Well, they sort of killed the BF main theme: http://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-3/dp/B005U8D3R4/ref=sr_shvl_album_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318545347&sr=301-2

[EX12693]

I can still hear it... barely. :|
Not too sure how I feel about that. I mean, you can distort soundtracks to make them sound more epic, but they just overdid it. The BF2 theme (and its expansion pack themes) were the best IMO.

[Amit]

I can still hear it... barely. :|
Not too sure how I feel about that. I mean, you can distort soundtracks to make them sound more epic, but they just overdid it. The BF2 theme (and its expansion pack themes) were the best IMO.

This, but I'd tie them with some of the tracks from 2142. I haven't had any BF tracks emotionally affect me like some of the ones from 2142. The Main menu theme from 2142 was just superb, even if it wasn't like most BF stuff. MEC theme has to be my most favourite track of all, though.

[ThePlague]

Someone should change the topic title to 10 days till launch now :)

e: these are cool:
http://i.imgur.com/8QUMc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/q77Gx.jpg

[Warsaw]

This, but I'd tie them with some of the tracks from 2142. I haven't had any BF tracks emotionally affect me like some of the ones from 2142. The Main menu theme from 2142 was just superb, even if it wasn't like most BF stuff. MEC theme has to be my most favourite track of all, though.

My favourite main game theme has to be BF2142's, but my favourite loading screen is, far and away, the US Marine's from Armoured Fury. I think they should have simply reorchestrated the BF2 themes, especially considering all the BF2 homages they are making.

[EX12693]

Oh crap I forgot all about 2142. Yeah that and BF2 combined had the best music by far....

[ThePlague]

BF3 is leaked and cracked, 9 days before release. Thoughts?

[Guardian]

I'm personally getting sick of games being leaked before release.

It happened with Crysis 2 aswell, so maybe EA is just decided its a good sales strategy. Personally hate it, especially due to the fact I pre-ordered the game.

[=sw=warlord]

BF3 is leaked and cracked, 9 days before release. Thoughts?
"all those who saw this one coming, raise their hands"

[Amit]

I've read it's a clone DVD and there's no crack. All this is is some Russian douches who cloned the DVD copies and uploaded them to the net. This happens to so many games. Most aren't usually cracked properly until after release. So this isn't really a leak. And there can't be crack for this since BF3 uses Battlelog exclusively to launch the game's missions.

Oh, and I'll just leave this here:

http://i.imgur.com/uf412.jpg

[ThePlague]

I've read it's a clone DVD and there's no crack. All this is is some Russian douches who cloned the DVD copies and uploaded them to the net. This happens to so many games. Most aren't usually cracked properly until after release. So this isn't really a leak. And there can't be crack for this since BF3 uses Battlelog exclusively to launch the game's missions.It's leaked, it's cracked, and it's in english.

[Amit]

No it isn't. You have to do a registry hack to turn it into English.

[=sw=warlord]

No it isn't. You have to do a registry hack to turn it into English.
What exactly do you think a crack is?
A hack used to allow you to use programs you can't normally use without proper clearance.
The registry hack is just part of the crack for if you want it in english.

[ThePlague]

Freelancer will give us details probably later tonight then.

[jcap]

So where's some pics of the in-game server browser?

Oh wait there won't be any pics because there is none my bad

[Cortexian]

Since I pre-ordered it, I figure there's no harm in saying that I have the leak. Trying to install now, with the crack, and the English fix.

Will report back.

[jcap]

afaik all cracks are fake

This is a repeat of the Portal 2 BS. You can't do anything as long as the game is encrypted.

[Cortexian]

Autoplay runs Origin installer.

Origin asks for key.

Key obviously can't be authenticated.

No installation.

[Amit]

What exactly do you think a crack is?
A hack used to allow you to use programs you can't normally use without proper clearance.
The registry hack is just part of the crack for if you want it in english.

I see what you're saying, but who is going to create a hacked launcher just to play campaign for a primarily multiplayer game? Well, maybe if someone manages to make something that can launch you into the first mission, you can probably move through the game from there and tweak options from the in-game menus. I still can't see how that would happen, though.

All cracks so far are fake. If they weren't, we'd be seeing a massive overflow of videos and screenshots already.

[Cortexian]

I'll be willing to bet that a SP launcher comes out before the game is released.

[Amit]

I wonder if the Teknogods people would be up to it. Didn't they create the AlterIWNET for MW2? Then again that was more unlocking for features that were built-into the engine rather than creating interfaces and the such.

[Cortexian]

AlterIWNet is a completely separate group from Teknogods. AIW succeeded where Teknogods failed is more accurate.

They've also done AlterOPS now for BlOPS.

[Cortexian]

http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8739/bf3filestructure.png

[Amit]

AlterIWNet is a completely separate group from Teknogods. AIW succeeded where Teknogods failed is more accurate.

They've also done AlterOPS now for BlOPS.

Oh right. But I read on the aIW forums that they stopped AlterOps for now. I don't understand why they need AlterOps when BlOps has dedicated servers and a server browser.