The 3DS isn't as good as the Iphone for hardcore gamers such as myself

[n00b1n8R]

http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2011/03/23/t-tt-nintendo-3ds-review.fortune/

:lmao:

[Amit]

Well I think you're taking his statements out of context, but I still question his claim that he's a hardcore gamer. It was a generally positive preview. The 3DS is probably not better than the iPod/iPhone, but Nintendo will probably still sell more 3DS devices than Apple's iPod 4th gen. People are seriously amazing with this machine.

The guy calls himself hardcore because he grew up on Halo? Damn, I must be a gaming sensei, then.

[sevlag]

hey guys hes pretty hardcore, he grew up on halo and all

[ThePlague]

True hardcore gamers grew up on Duke Nukem 3D :3

[Kornman00]

The guy calls himself hardcore because he grew up on Halo? Damn, I must be a gaming sensei, then.
Now who's taking him out of context?


On top of the 3D, the graphics are pretty good. A lot better than...the stuff you saw on previous Nintendo game devices. Definitely not PS3 quality for instance, but they definitely reached a point where even hardcore gamers, like me for instance who grew up on Halo, won't mind playing around with this thing.In this context, he's referring to mainstream gaming consoles (vs handheld devices) and their games as the "hardcore" clique of the gaming population. He's not talking about skill or game history depth or w/e the next flamer comes up with.

Only takes one person to drive a bandwagon...

[Hotrod]

Yeah...definitely a reliable and non-biased review of the 3DS right there...

...oh wait

[Rainbow Dash]

wahhahahahahahahha

jesus christ

[cheezdue]

I say Apple is behind this. No doubt.

[n00b1n8R]

The games can't be as good because the graphics aren't up to par with the PS3. Also he is 30 and grew up with halo:haw:

[Kornman00]

Yeah...definitely a reliable and non-biased review of the 3DS right there...

...oh wait
All reviews, no matter what source, all come down to opinion. Or money payoffs.

[Amit]

Now who's taking him out of context?

In this context, he's referring to mainstream gaming consoles (vs handheld devices) and their games as the "hardcore" clique of the gaming population. He's not talking about skill or game history depth or w/e the next flamer comes up with.

Only takes one person to drive a bandwagon...

What then defines a hardcore gamer? The person who plays FPS shooters? There has to be much more than just simply playing a certain game to call yourself a hardcore gamer. You must aim to become proficient at the game. Know the rules, the tactics, the strategy. I don't believe I took him out of context. He simply said "hardcore." He did not specify his arena of gaming. The context of his statement and the context of the review subject are different. You know what, fuck it, I don't even know what I'm trying to say anymore.

Simply put, his definition of a hardcore gamer (in the context Korn pointed out) is wrong. Consoles are not "hardcore" compared to smaller devices. They are simply more serious gaming machines. You want hardcore? Go play Counter-strike or WoW or Starcraft. Those games are the real hardcore. Those are all PC games, coincidentally, or not.

[MXC]

I define a hardcore gamer as a person who is ready and willing to play just about any genre of any game on any system, regardless of age, replayability or difficulty of the game. A hardcore gamer can go from playing Total Annihilation to Boom Blox in a second, from the original Battlezone to MYST, Golden Sun to Bad Company 2, or Comix Zone to Paper Mario.


Also, hardcore gamers don't sell games. They have libraries, both digital and physical.


At least, that's how I'd define it.


On the other hand, you have Casual gamers, Retro Gamers and Professional gamers.

Casual gamers barely play or buy games at all, or they only play when friends are around.

Retro gamers refuse to play next to anything new, and even then only to confirm how much the new game 'sucks' and that 'the original is always better'.

The Professional gamer is the easiest to mix up with the Hardcore, while in fact the Pro only plays one type of game endlessly to the point where he/she can dominate every single thing thrown at them, sometimes for money.

[Cortexian]

Hardcore gamers = "professional" competitive gamers imo.

[MXC]

Hardcore gamers = "professional" competitive gamers imo.

There is a difference, although it's pretty common that the two terms get used the same way.

[Cortexian]

I also sometimes use the term Hardcore Gamer when referring to hardware enthusiasts for PC gaming, that literally buy the most powerful hardware as soon as it comes out. It's not really an accurate term though, since hardware enthusiasts aren't as near the general coin-term for Hardcore Gamer unless they also do A LOT of gaming in their systems. It's nice to have friends that are hardware enthusiasts like this though, then you can always keep yourself updated with the latest tech haha. Unfortunately the friend I used to know that was like this moved away for school, and is now on a stricter budget heh.

[Donut]

I define a hardcore gamer as a person who is ready and willing to play just about any genre of any game on any system, regardless of age, replayability or difficulty of the game. A hardcore gamer can go from playing Total Annihilation to Boom Blox in a second, from the original Battlezone to MYST, Golden Sun to Bad Company 2, or Comix Zone to Paper Mario.


Also, hardcore gamers don't sell games. They have libraries, both digital and physical.


At least, that's how I'd define it.


On the other hand, you have Casual gamers, Retro Gamers and Professional gamers.

Casual gamers barely play or buy games at all, or they only play when friends are around.

Retro gamers refuse to play next to anything new, and even then only to confirm how much the new game 'sucks' and that 'the original is always better'.

The Professional gamer is the easiest to mix up with the Hardcore, while in fact the Pro only plays one type of game endlessly to the point where he/she can dominate every single thing thrown at them, sometimes for money.
totally agree with this. not to inflate my own ego here, but i have nearly every gaming system since the NES, and at least 400 physical games across all my platforms. i have a list longer than 30 of games im currently playing, and one over 3 times that in length of games want to play across all genres and platforms. in 5 minutes i can go from playing the snes game secret of mana on my tv with an emulator to playing reach on my 360 with some buddies. im by no means professional, but gaming is a cornerstone of my life. THAT, imo, is hard core gaming.

while professional, such as mlg, gamers may be hard core, professional gamers alone dont make up the entirety of hard core gamers.

[Amit]

What Freelancer described is what you would call an enthusiast for hardware (these people are usually hardcore gamers). Somebody who plays games for money and competition is professional gamer. Somebody who plays proficiently for fun is a hardcore gamer. Somebody who plays extensively (more longevity than skill) for fun is a serious gamer. Somebody who plays purely for fun is just a gamer.

[Dwood]

Welcome to modauniversity.

[Donut]

its a cool discussion. iv actually been waiting for this to come up

[Pooky]

Retro gamers refuse to play next to anything new, and even then only to confirm how much the new game 'sucks' and that 'the original is always better'.

Do I even need to point out what a completely idiotic generalization this is?

I would consider myself a "Retro" gamer in that I enjoy playing lots of older games, both favorites and ones I may have missed. However I also play newer games, and I don't think they all suck by default.

There are some new games that I think suck and are undeservingly popular, like CoD Blackops. There are also old games that I think suck, like Fester's Quest on the NES. Quality isn't dependent on age, and opinions are never right or wrong.

[Jelly]

the only thing wrong with this review is that the reviewer dared claim he was a hardcore gamer WHILE IN AN OFFICE ??? plaYING ON A 3DS ???? instead of typing it on a forum from his bedroom.

All other points stand and the iphone is still the master

[Amit]

Okay. I think this is more discussion of gamers instead of the 3DS. Is that off topic? I can't tell since this thread was made to ridicule a reviewer. Maybe the topic title should changed and moved to off-topic?

[Dwood]

Also the reviewer needs to add one fact: Apple and Nintendo are _not_ targeting the same crowd so it shouldn't even matter in the first place.

[MXC]

Do I even need to point out what a completely idiotic generalization this is?

I would consider myself a "Retro" gamer in that I enjoy playing lots of older games, both favorites and ones I may have missed. However I also play newer games, and I don't think they all suck by default.

There are some new games that I think suck and are undeservingly popular, like CoD Blackops. There are also old games that I think suck, like Fester's Quest on the NES. Quality isn't dependent on age, and opinions are never right or wrong.

Look, I agree that I should've elaborated on it a bit more, but there are people out there like that. If I wasn't going further off topic by expanding on my post I would be going into more detail. The last few lines I wrote are quick summaries of what I've seen from various forums and reviewers.


However, this is a topic about a guy who reviewed the 3DS and called himself a hardcore gamer after playing Halo.

[Jelly]

Also the reviewer needs to add one fact: Apple and Nintendo are _not_ targeting the same crowd so it shouldn't even matter in the first place.
yes they are........look at the top apps in the app store

[Cortexian]

Apple = / = App Developers.

But I see your point.

[Bodzilla]

True hardcore gamers grew up on Duke Nukem 3D :3
true hardcore grew up on commander keen and jill of the jungle.

Ya'll bitchez missed the side scrolling days of yore.

to me hardcore has always been history with games, devotion to playing them, talking about them, working on them and they are a significant part of your lifestyle.

[Pooky]

Look, I agree that I should've elaborated on it a bit more, but there are people out there like that. If I wasn't going further off topic by expanding on my post I would be going into more detail. The last few lines I wrote are quick summaries of what I've seen from various forums and reviewers.


However, this is a topic about a guy who reviewed the 3DS and called himself a hardcore gamer after playing Halo.

Perhaps you should have said 'reactionary' gamer, instead :p

No hard feelings, but I don't really appreciate all DOOM and Metroid players being lumped in a category with obnoxious douchebags.

[annihilation]

True hardcore gamers grew up on Duke Nukem 3D :3

True hardcore gamers grew up on Fighting Vipers.

[cheezdue]

I know I'm hardcore since I played Streets of Rage. :iamafag:

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

true hardcore grew up on commander keen ......

High five!

[Dwood]

I started with Math Blaster. That's true gaming.

[Donut]

i learned how to play super mario bros before i could speak, or at least before i was 2. those were grand times.

i remember math blaster too.

[Warsaw]

Reader Rabbit, Math Blaster, Reading Blaster, and...Wing Commander 3.

[Jelly]

halo was my first pc game :)

[=sw=warlord]

Pft and you call yourselves gamers.
I grew up on Ant attack on the Commodore 64.

[TeeKup]

Metroid and Mario...and some random Baja game on the SNES.

[Hotrod]

I started with Math Blaster. That's true gaming.
THIS!

Oh, and Total Annihilation.

[Warsaw]

Pft and you call yourselves gamers.
I grew up on Ant attack on the Commodore 64.

Some of us only had the PCs our parents' companies gave them...:mad:.

[TVTyrant]

I'm with Bod on this. You have to see games as being a significant part of your life, like some people would with movies. Whether its remembering something out of an SNES RPG or the time you killed 6 people with one nade stick doesn't matter. It's just that you have made that important to you. Also, sidescrolling FTW!!!!

[Warsaw]

Treasure Mountain = best side-scroller EVER.

[sevlag]

I define a hardcore gamer as a person who is ready and willing to play just about any genre of any game on any system, regardless of age, replayability or difficulty of the game. A hardcore gamer can go from playing Total Annihilation to Boom Blox in a second, from the original Battlezone to MYST, Golden Sun to Bad Company 2, or Comix Zone to Paper Mario.


Also, hardcore gamers don't sell games. They have libraries, both digital and physical.


At least, that's how I'd define it.


On the other hand, you have Casual gamers, Retro Gamers and Professional gamers.

Casual gamers barely play or buy games at all, or they only play when friends are around.

Retro gamers refuse to play next to anything new, and even then only to confirm how much the new game 'sucks' and that 'the original is always better'.

The Professional gamer is the easiest to mix up with the Hardcore, while in fact the Pro only plays one type of game endlessly to the point where he/she can dominate every single thing thrown at them, sometimes for money.you're definition comes clsoe to mine, there are feew gneres i wont touch

[Dwood]

THIS!

Oh, and Total Annihilation.

Funny, how we go from games such as Math Blaster to Red Alert.

[Bodzilla]

http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/4/3106/jill1.png

Yeah Boy

[Amit]

Math Blaster was the shit. Grade 1, yo! Operation Neptune was fun too.

[Arteen]

I can't even see the 3D effect on the 3DS. :saddowns:

[Amit]

Oh I tried it out the other day. It's not that interesting, really. It doesn't pop out at you like a movie, but it's respectable for a small handheld device. I can't justify dropping the $250 on it, though. It's main feature supports nothing more than minigames currently. That will probably change in the future.

[sleepy1212]

Pft and you call yourselves gamers.
I grew up on Ant attack on the Commodore 64.

lol, i had an old Tandy in junior high. we spent hours typing code from a book to play a skiing game consisting of a green bar across the screen with a black square.

[cheezdue]

It bugs me that the next update won't come out till the end of May. You can't do much with it's current version. :l But it was worth the $250 pricetag for me. :3

[Hotrod]

I wish I had 250$ to spend so I could buy it...then again, most of my spare money has gone to Warhammer 40k for the past year or so.