is there anyway too..

[paladin]

export rendered geometry and collision geometry separately?

[Rainbow Dash]

is there anyway you could make that question more ambiguous

[paladin]

its a pretty straight forward question if you know anything about modding CE

[BobtheGreatII]

For what?

I know that like, some vehicles I first made had detailed render geometry, but would be made of boxes for collision. So what are you trying to do this for?

[paladin]

Same idea, only for a map. Its hard to explain without showing,

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_hcd4Wjdzq5A/TJFB3Vl8MZI/AAAAAAAAAZ8/-iZyY6h3sxg/s1600/30.jpg

EX. its pointless to render this as collision. Theres way too many polys where as the basic primitive shape would do.

[thehoodedsmack]

I thought you could just export the map twice, under a different name or something, and then just paste the one you want to use into the right folder, link it in the tags, voila. I could be wrong, though.

[Rainbow Dash]

its a pretty straight forward question if you know anything about modding CE

Funny, since the guy after this post had to ask what you meant too.

And no, additionally why would you want to? Halo's ability to process level stuff properly, lightmaps, portalling, shit like that requires that the world's visual geometry conform to the sealed world rules. You would be totally undermining this by having a separate collision mesh for levels.

[BobtheGreatII]

I thought you could just export the map twice, under a different name or something, and then just paste the one you want to use into the right folder, link it in the tags, voila. I could be wrong, though.

I would try this first.

Either that or I would suggest trying to make that a piece of scenery instead of a part of the BSP. Just an idea though.

[Kornman00]

Umm, just make it render only then have an invisible shape around it for collision?

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

I'd set the whatever-it-is-you-want-to-have-simpler-collision thing to render only and make the collision you want and set it's material to collision only. I might be wrong, though.

EDIT: Ninja'd

[paladin]

Funny, since the guy after this post had to ask what you meant too.

And no, additionally why would you want to? Halo's ability to process level stuff properly, lightmaps, portalling, shit like that requires that the world's visual geometry conform to the sealed world rules. You would be totally undermining this by having a separate collision mesh for levels.


I dont normally go after new people, but im going to write you off as a complete idiot. Leave, before you make yourself look even more like a fool.

[Donut]

what. paladin, NVOUS is selentic, and hes right. theres a reason the map has to be sealed. you can still get the effect youre trying to achieve if you do what kornman said. just model the part you want to be collidable into the rest of the map, and set those polygon's materials to be collision only. then add the other polygons with the render only material.

iirc, only meshes used for collision have to be sealed, so those render only polygons can be free-floating.

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

If you want to know how:

Duplicate the materials which you want to be render only, and add a ! flag at the end of the names to set it to render only, make sure you set the material IDs on the surfaces.
Name the collision only material +unused@ (I'm unsure about the difference between @ - collision property and * - large collideable property, I guess some more experienced members might clarify this a bit), do something to the render only object so you can't do anything to it (maybe hide it?) and model the collision.

[Rainbow Dash]

I dont normally go after new people, but im going to write you off as a complete idiot. Leave, before you make yourself look even more like a fool.

I'm an idiot who has a far greater understanding of halo's engine than you do, so what does that make you in this regard?

[crimsonshadow117]

What about using a glass material # or %?

[Higuy]

Umm, just make it render only then have an invisible shape around it for collision?

This ^^^

[paladin]

I'm an idiot who has a far greater understanding of halo's engine than you do, so what does that make you in this regard?

this doesn't even deserve a response.

For the rest of you, works well with just using !

[Rainbow Dash]

lmfao

[malolo420]

I dont normally go after new people, but im going to write you off as a complete idiot. Leave, before you make yourself look even more like a fool.
No need to be goofing it up around here buddy.

[Kornman00]

Never mind him, it's in his blood. He was born a goof.

[Tnnaas]

Duplicate the materials which you want to be render only, and add a ! flag at the end of the names to set it to render only, make sure you set the material IDs on the surfaces.
Name the collision only material +unused@ (I'm unsure about the difference between @ - collision property and * - large collideable property, I guess some more experienced members might clarify this a bit), do something to the render only object so you can't do anything to it (maybe hide it?) and model the collision.

He has the right idea. If you need any more assistance, I think this (http://www.bungie.net//images/Inside/publications/presentations/%21Halo3_Flood_Alien_Level_Autopsy.zip) can help.

Bungie level designers had to fake collisions for the Cortana level in Halo 3.

[=sw=warlord]

Would it not be better to just use a plane with the ladder shader that's clear so you avoid it all?