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justin108
June 4th, 2011, 01:03 AM
I just got my invite yesterday, I am uploading 10,000 songs atm, another 10,000 to go. I love what they have done so far.

What do you guys that have it think?

Cortexian
June 6th, 2011, 12:49 AM
"We're sorry. Music Beta is currently only available in the United States"

Oh. Okay.

chrisk123999
June 6th, 2011, 01:06 AM
How to get invite?

Kornman00
June 6th, 2011, 01:12 AM
I just requested an invite. Says it's free for a limited time...wonder if that means if beta people will have to pay later on.

Siliconmaster
June 6th, 2011, 01:34 AM
What is this madness?

Amit
June 6th, 2011, 01:46 AM
They're doing what now?

Donut
June 6th, 2011, 02:52 AM
from what i understand, you upload your music to this google music thing, and you can access it anywhere by signing into your account.

or you could buy an ipod.

ThePlague
June 6th, 2011, 03:48 AM
or you could buy an ipod.
Why buy something when you can do something better (as in storage wise) for free? :)

Amit
June 6th, 2011, 09:14 AM
Because, with an iPod you can listen to it right away. No streaming involved means no data bills.

Dwood
June 6th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Because, with an iPod you can listen to it right away. No streaming involved means no data bills.

Basically this. We can take iPods overseas without limitations. And listen to them any time, not just whenever we have internet.

PlasbianX
June 6th, 2011, 11:40 AM
It's mainly for smart phones. Do I want to upload all of my music onto my phone and take up all the space just to listen to it when I don't feel like carrying around my Zune? Nope, i'll upload it to Google's cloud and stream it. Only problem is I haven't gotten an invite (although I haven't requested one since I don't know where to) although i've seen reports where all ya gotta do is go to a best buy or something with a XOOM and sign in with your google account and they'll send you an invite.

Dwood
June 6th, 2011, 01:40 PM
If you listen to a lot of music like me, remember that that bandwidth aint free and it aint always gonna be if it is, especially if it's over the air and not by wire.

Cortexian
June 7th, 2011, 11:29 AM
Who needs more than 20GB of music on their mobile device???

Amit
June 7th, 2011, 12:59 PM
No clue.

Amit
June 7th, 2011, 01:00 PM
What you can do is load like your top 500 songs or so onto your mobile device if you don't want to carry a dedicated music player and then upload the rest to Google and stream on demand when you feel like it. Chances are you'll never end up needing to stream.

Kornman00
June 7th, 2011, 04:00 PM
My music library (not counting music videos) is 50GB...

king_nothing_
June 7th, 2011, 10:14 PM
Mine is 88 GB, and I've barely added anything to it in the past 1.5 years or so. None of that is flac, either.

How long should I expect to wait to get an invite for this? I requested an invite right after this thread was posted.

justin108
June 14th, 2011, 10:42 PM
I just requested an invite. Says it's free for a limited time...wonder if that means if beta people will have to pay later on.

Korn that is what i assume it meant, I got an invite about 4 hours after requesting, but I have beta tested almost every google service..cant see why that would matter but I have had issues with songs sticking at 93% and talked to a very nice dev there that was more than helpful once I provided logs. As soon as it goes like other google services and I get invites to give, This is the place I will share. And Kingnothing, dunno why you havent been accepted, but youll be first on my handout list unless you get one before then.

And as to why it is needed if you have an Ipod, well I suppose it isn't until it is stolen and you have a hard drive crash? I dunno, I love it because I was using an ailing external to house all my music and I AM comfortable with life in the cloud. (Plus I have never owned an "Ipod") Not that I dont want one, just I spend my money in other ways like a mortgage, baby food and diapers, hence I no longer host 4 halo servers lol. If I had an Ipod with 200 gig storage I may not find it so useful, but I like free shit, and even more I like to beta test.

justin108
June 14th, 2011, 10:55 PM
This will help those who dont have it feel better, this is the email I received after turning in an issue and providing logs.


Hi,

Thank you for your note.

First, check that your internet connection is currently active.

If your connection is active, the following troubleshooting steps may
resolve the issue:

Sign out and then back in to the Music Manager:

1. Click the Music Manager icon in your system tray at the bottom right of
your screen (Windows) or menu bar in the upper right corner (Mac) to
access the Music Manager
2. Select the 'Advanced' tab
3. Click 'Sign Out'
4. On the sign-in screen that appears, sign back in to your Google account

Restart the Music Manager:

1. Right-click the Music Manager icon in your system tray at the bottom
right of your screen (Windows) or menu bar in the upper right corner (Mac)
2. Select 'Quit'
3. Restart the Music Manager from your program list

If the problem persists, restarting your computer and uninstalling and
reinstalling the Music Manager may resolve the issue.

Lastly, you can manually start the process to add music and then use the
Music Manager troubleshooter for additional information.

Temporarily set the Music Manager to manually add music, then use the
Music Manager troubleshooter:

1. Access the Music Manager and select the 'Advanced' tab
2. In the 'Upload music added to my selected folders' section, select
'Manually'
3. Click 'Start Upload Now'
4. After attempting to add music manually, feel free to return your upload
frequency to its original setting.
5. Right-click the Music Manager icon in your system tray at the bottom
right of your screen (Windows) or menu bar in the upper right corner (Mac)
6. Select 'Run troubleshooter'

--

Although the Music Manager indicates that some of your songs weren't
successfully added, please check your library to verify whether this is
accurate. We're aware of an issue causing the troubleshooter to
incorrectly indicate failure to add songs and are working on a fix.

If the troubleshooter is correct and the songs in question weren't added,
some users have been able to resolve the issue by forcing the Music
Manager to reattempt to add the problematic songs. To do so, point the
Music Manager at a different location to add music from, click 'Apply',
then point the Music Manager back at your original music location. This
will cause the Music Manager to rescan and add any music that isn't
currently in your Music Beta library.

If the problem persists after rescanning, log files would help us
investigate further. Your log files can be found at the following
location:

Windows XP
C:\Documents and Settings\<account name>\Local Settings\Application
Data\Google\MusicManager\MusicManager.log
C:\Documents and Settings\<account name>\Local Settings\Application
Data\Google\MusicManager\ServerDatabase.db

Vista/Win7
C:\Users\<account name>\AppData\Local\Google\MusicManager\MusicManager.lo g
C:\Users\<account
name>\AppData\Local\Google\MusicManager\ServerDatabase. db

Mac
~/Library/Logs/MusicManager/AndroidMusicHelper.log
~/Library/Application\ Support/Google/MusicManager/ServerDatabase.db

Once you have your files, please send them as attachments in a reply to
this email. I appreciate your assistance.

Regards,

Bryce
The Music Beta Team

Am I a fucking moron? Did they really think I didn't do these steps in 5 minutes after my problem?

They need more quality testers and I am shocked you guys haven't been able to have any input!

Kornman00
June 15th, 2011, 02:31 PM
Why the hell would they think morons would try beta testing this anyway?

Wait...maybe that's how they select their invites ;x jk mang

king_nothing_
June 16th, 2011, 01:49 PM
As soon as it goes like other google services and I get invites to give, This is the place I will share. And Kingnothing, dunno why you havent been accepted, but youll be first on my handout list unless you get one before then.
Thanks. They still haven't sent me an invite yet. :/

Limited
June 16th, 2011, 02:02 PM
Who needs more than 20GB of music on their mobile device???
Who said it was music? I have films, tv shows on my iPhone.

Kornman00
June 16th, 2011, 10:14 PM
Who said it was music? I have films, tv shows on my iPhone.
Same here. I have 55GB of iTunes movies/tv shows, plus 48GB of music (both with and without Fairplay DRM bullshit).

ODX
June 16th, 2011, 11:06 PM
Gosh damn it, just watch the bloody video on the thing people:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrNhKcxBbZo

(for those of you who haven't already)

Cortexian
June 17th, 2011, 05:41 AM
Again, why do you need all of that stuff on your mobile device at one time?

I stuck an entire season of Star Trek Voyager on my iPhone 32GB with tons of room to spare for all the music I could possibly need. This was when I was going through a few airports on a trip a few weeks ago, never had issues finding a power outlet (I always bring a little 1-2 power outlet splitter as well as a charger, lets me recharge even if someone else is using a plugin). I also never ran out of media, in fact I only got through 6/30 episodes.

Tnnaas
June 21st, 2011, 11:02 PM
I like Chris' shirt....

I see some potential here. It could certainly help clear up a few gigabytes if need be. I don't want to judge it until I have tried it out though.

king_nothing_
June 24th, 2011, 12:10 AM
I just got my invite! :neckbeard:

Kornman00
June 24th, 2011, 04:54 AM
Same here :neckbeard:

here is the EULA just for reference:

Additional Terms of Service for Music Beta by Google

Last modified: May 10, 2011
Thank you for your interest in Music Beta by Google! By using Music Beta by Google ("Music Beta" or the "Service"), you accept and agree to be bound by the Google Terms of Service (http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS), the Google Privacy Policy (http://www.google.com/privacy/privacy-policy.html), and the Music Beta by Google Privacy Policy (http://music.google.com/about/privacy.html), each of which is incorporated into this agreement by this reference, as well as these Additional Terms of Service for Music Beta by Google (collectively, the "Terms"). It is important for you to read each of these documents, as they form a legal agreement regarding your use of the Service between you and Google Inc. ("Google") whose principal place of business is 1600 Amphitheatre Parkway, Mountain View, CA 94043, United States. This document explains how your agreement with Google is made up and sets out some of the terms of that agreement. Capitalized terms not otherwise defined in these Additional Terms have the meaning given to them in the Google Terms of Service.
The Music Beta Service and Your Music

Music Beta is a Service as defined in Section 1.1 of the Google Terms of Service (http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS) and is provided to you for your personal, non-commercial use solely in connection with lawfully acquired music files from your personal collection that you choose to make available to yourself through the Service, including all data comprising, describing, or associated with each music file that you choose to upload, such as audio data, metadata, and album art for each selected file (whether referring to individual uploaded files or to your entire uploaded library, "Your Music"). Music Beta consists of (a) Google-provided server space that you can use for storage of Your Music, and (b) software applications and related web sites and services that allow you to upload, manage, access, and play back Your Music through a web browser or through any supported, Service-enabled device. To the extent that you use the Music Application for Android devices in conjunction with Music Beta, those uses are governed by the Terms, including these Additional Terms.
Trial Service Availability and Limitations

Music Beta is a trial or "beta" Service from Google that requires you to register with your new or existing Google account. It is available free for a limited time to residents of the United States (including its territories and protectorates) who have received an invitation from Google and accept the invitation by signing into their Google account to register for use of the Service. As a beta Service, certain limits on storage or usage may apply; these limits may be set or changed by Google at any time, at Google's discretion, and you agree that you will not attempt to obstruct or prevent the application of those Service limits at any time, or to manipulate your usage of the Service to avoid or circumvent them. You can find more information about applicable Service limits through the Music Beta Help Center.
Third Party Fees

Music Beta is available without charge from Google; however, you may incur access or data fees from third parties (such as your internet provider or mobile carrier) in connection with your use of the Service. You are responsible for all such third-party charges for your use of Music Beta on or through third party services and devices.
Privacy and Your Personal Information

Section 7 of the Google Terms of Service governing Music Beta by Google is replaced in its entirety by the following:
7.1 For information about Google's data protection practices, please read the Music Beta by Google Privacy Policy at http://music.google.com/about/privacy.html. This policy explains how Google treats your personal information, and protects your privacy, when you use the Service.
7.2 You agree to the use of your data in accordance with Google's privacy policies.
Your Permissions and Instructions to Google

Section 11 of the Google Terms of Service governing Music Beta by Google is replaced in its entirety by the following:
11.1 You retain any rights you already hold in Your Music. You acknowledge and agree that you are solely responsible for your own conduct and Content (including Your Music) while using the Service and for any consequences thereof. You agree to use the Service only for purposes that are legal, proper, and in accordance with these Terms, and that by using the Service you are requesting that Google make all of the necessary functions and features of the Service available to you in order to facilitate your use of Your Music according to the Terms. Without limiting the generality of this overall permission and instruction, you specifically agree that you are instructing Google to perform the functions described in Sections 11.2, 11.3, and 11.4 below.
11.2 By uploading or submitting Your Music to or through the Service, you are directing Google to store a unique copy of Your Music on your behalf and to make it accessible to you through the use of your login credentials.
11.3 By accessing, managing, playing back, displaying, or using all or any part of Your Music on or through the Service, you are directing Google to initiate and perform the corresponding functions on your behalf, together with any related steps necessary to achieve them, through the Service.
11.4 You understand that Google, in performing the required technical steps to provide you with the Service as described in the Terms, may (a) transmit Your Music over various public networks and in various media; and (b) make such changes to Your Music as are necessary to conform and adapt it to the technical requirements of connecting networks, devices, services, or media. You agree that in each such instance, your use of the Service includes a direction to Google to take these actions on your behalf.
11.5 You confirm and warrant to Google that you have all the rights, power and authority to grant any permissions and give any instructions to Google that may be required to perform the actions necessary to provide you with the Service. You agree that you will not upload, submit, access, manage, play back, display or use any Content (including any portion of Your Music), or direct Google to do anything with Your Music on your behalf, unless you have all of the necessary rights to do so without infringing the rights of any third party or violating any laws or agreements that apply to you, the Content, or Your Music.
Copyright Notices

It is Google's policy to respond to notices of alleged copyright infringement that comply with applicable intellectual property law (including, in the United States, the Digital Millennium Copyright Act) and to terminate the accounts of repeat infringers. Details of Google's policy can be found at http://www.google.com/dmca.html.
Third Party Software

To the extent that Music Beta includes components governed by third party or open source licenses with provisions inconsistent with the Terms, those components are instead governed solely by the applicable third party or open source licenses. Information regarding those licenses (except for software provided by Gracenote, Inc., for which the terms are included at the end of this agreement) can be obtained at the following location: http://music.google.com/about/thirdparty.html.
Acceptance of Terms

You accept the Terms either by clicking to accept the Additional Terms presented to you when you first access the Service or by using Music Beta by Google. Your continued use of the Service constitutes your consent to the Terms (as may be modified from time to time, in whole or in part, with or without notice). It is your responsibility to review the Additional Terms regularly for updates. If you do not agree to the Terms, you may not use the Service.
You can review, print or save a copy of these Additional Terms of Service for Music Beta by Google (and navigate to other links referenced in the Additional Terms) by visiting the Additional Terms web page at: http://music.google.com/about/terms.html.
Gracenote Software

This application or device may contain software from Gracenote, Inc. of Emeryville, California ("Gracenote"). The software from Gracenote (the "Gracenote Software") enables this application to perform disc and/or file identification and obtain music-related information ("Gracenote Data") from online servers or embedded databases (collectively, "Gracenote Servers") and to perform other functions. You may use Gracenote Data only by means of the intended end-user functions of this application or device.
This application may contain content belonging to Gracenote's providers. If so, all of the restrictions set forth herein with respect to Gracenote Data shall also apply to such content and such content providers shall be entitled to all of the benefits and protections set forth herein that are available to Gracenote. You agree that you will use Gracenote Data, the Gracenote Software, and Gracenote Servers for your own personal non-commercial use only. You agree not to assign, copy, transfer or transmit the Gracenote Software or any Gracenote Data to any third party. YOU AGREE NOT TO USE OR EXPLOIT GRACENOTE DATA, THE GRACENOTE SOFTWARE, OR GRACENOTE SERVERS, EXCEPT AS EXPRESSLY PERMITTED HEREIN.
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annihilation
June 24th, 2011, 02:42 PM
If you listen to a lot of music like me, remember that that bandwidth aint free and it aint always gonna be if it is, especially if it's over the air and not by wire.

Google probably figured that most spartphone users have an aunlimited data plan, which most of them do.

Cortexian
June 24th, 2011, 03:34 PM
Most smartphone users don't have an unlimited plan if they're smart, they're excessive and you'll never use more than a gig or two a month on a smartphone with moderate usage.

dark navi
June 25th, 2011, 04:07 AM
Most smartphone users don't have an unlimited plan if they're smart, they're excessive and you'll never use more than a gig or two a month on a smartphone with moderate usage.

Some people just use more bandwidth for things like internet radio and streaming of various types of media (Google Music).